>hey Gimli, I know your cousin awakened a Balrog that probably killed him and all of your friends and loved ones in Moria
>but I won't mention it or give you a warning before we step into a cave that is littered with their decaying bones
Why was Gandalf so based?
>>71481916
PTSD
>>71481916
>mfw the reason we never see Sauron is because he is Gandalf the Master Troll.
>>71481916
Balin didn't awake the Balrog though,
>>71482014
This is my headcannon.
>>71481916
The Balrog awoke during Durin V reign, Third age, 1980. The events of LOTR happen 1039 years later. No one knew what the Balrog was really, especially the outside world (the dwarves are not really keen on chit-chat with the other races) it was called "Durin's Bane" and its true nature was unknown, and somewhat forgotten by then.
During the fellowship of the ring, Balin did recolonized the Moria successfuly although there weren't any more news from them. Which might have been worrysome but again, dwarves like to cut themselves from the rest of the world sometimes.
>>71482581
Then why is Gandalf so hesitant to enter Moria? He knows about the Balrog and doesn't even bring it up when they let Frodo choose
>>71482932
He obviously thought the rest of the mines were still used by dwarves. That was the part he didn't know; that Moria had been overrun by orks.
>>71483056
I thought the dwarfs beat the orcs at Moria in the backstory of the Hobbit.
>>71482932
>Not watching the extended editions
The entire fate of the world depended on their mission. They had little choice but to go through.
The Balrog of Moria was essentially just an urban myth. Why spook the fellowship with a ghost story?
>>71482932
He is hesitant because he knows that "Durin's bane" existed at some point, but doesn't know what it really is / was.
He is unsure if Balin's colony silence can be explained by dwarf's desire to cut themselves from the world OR if something bad happened. Therefore, in case of doubt, he wanted to keep safe and avoid Moria if possible.
>yes, yes, well done, Uruk hai
>HOWEVER
>>71483161
When Sauroman was talking as a disembodied voice
>"You know what lurks in the depths of Moria"
could Gandalf actually hear that in his head?
>>71482932
He didn't know about the Balrog, since the general conception was that all Balrogs died during the War of Wrath.
>>71482581
Bane?
>>71483161
It's interesting I just looked, and in the book, Gandalf is actually the one who suggests Moria, and Aragorn is the one who is opposed to it
>>71483493
Thrain?
>>71483600
I think it's pretty clear that in the book, even the Wizards don't suspect a fucking Balrog has been hidden all this time under the mountain.
In the movie both Gandalf and Saruman seems to know or at least suspect what went down down there.
>>71483299
I just checked it, you are correct about that sentence.
>"You know what lurks in the depths of Moria, shadow and flame"
Which is a contradiction between the movies and the book lore, see >>71483309
But anyway, I don't think they can communicate telepathically, seems more like saruman was trying to guess Gandalf's thinking.
I still don't think Gandalf knew about the true nature of Durin's bane, otherwise he would have prevented Balin from getting the moria back. In the movies, maybe Saruman knew because he was "wiser", and told no one because he was a cunt.
>>71483723
> even the Wizards don't suspect a fucking Balrog has been hidden all this time under the mountain
And even when they do enter the mines they try to keep a low profile. IIRC they go several days or weeks in there, navigating in the darkness without raising alarm.
>>71483744
>In the movies, maybe Saruman knew because he was "wiser"
Or because he had a Palantir. But the way he words it implies Gandalf knew too, which makes no sense.
>>71483723
Yeah in the book they are very clear, with the foreshadowing, that a Balrog was awakened at some point, but in the movie it is better to just tease it instead of blatantly announcing that they will face a Balrog at some point
>reading lotr for the first time
>fully expected the dwarves to have taken back moria and we would have a nice little visit with a bustling dwarf city like we had in shire and rivendell
oh how foolish was i
>>71483854
LotR is actually rather dark like that. Middle-earth is losing its ancient wonders, and by destroying the Ring the good guys are also accelerating the process.
>>71483854
Was Moria taken back, then lost at some time between Hobbit and Fellowship? Or, was it held by dwarfs during Hobbit and lost between then and Fellowship?
>>71483920
Such is the nature of man to forget the past a little bit with each generation. Their short lifecycles meant this was always going to happen when they took over.
>>71484028
Moria had been lost before The Hobbit for reasons unknown (=the Balrog). Balin put together an expedition to reclaim it, and for a time all was well and they even sent messages to Erebor about it, then communications mysteriously stopped around the start of Fellowship (=Balin and co got slaughtered by orcs).
Why did the gate of Moria open with an elven word?
>Now because of his dislike and fear, in the later days Saruman avoided Gandalf, and they seldom met,
except at the assemblies of the White Council. It was at the great Council held in 2851
>Gandalf did not laugh again; and he did not answer, but looking keenly at Saruman he drew on his pipe and sent out a great ring of smoke with many smaller rings that followed it. Then he put up his hand, as if to grasp them, and they vanished. With that he got up and left Saruman without another word; but Saruman stood for some time silent, and his face was dark with doubt and displeasure.
>Gandalf unknowingly knew that the nine would chase the ringbearer (Frodo)
Why was Gandalf so based?
>>71484218
That wasn't the main gate. It was a gate where elves could enter when they were allied with the dwarves for trading etc. That's why the password is "friend"
>>71484272
Plus, dwarves dislike teaching their language to people from other races.
>>71484244
>this is actually canon
>>71484107
What about the fight were Thorin fought the white ork with a tree log?
>>71483854
Now that I think about it, at no point in either the Hobbit or the Lord of the Rings do we get to see a fully populated Dwarven city. Elven lands aplenty, Men and Hobbits too. Never any Dwarves.
>>71484426
I haven't seen the movies, I assume you mean when they got under the mountain? The orcs captured them and brought them in their own tunnels, that wasn't Moria.
>>71484474
They show you a bit of Erebor in the Hobbit. It's just hard to truly show an underground kingdom
>>71484482
No, they talk about this battle at Moria with orcs. Thorin loses his father there. It turns out his farther was captured and taken to the place where Saron was regaining strength as "the Necromancer". This might be Similiarian/extended lore stuff.
>>71483648
Beorn: Uhh, you don't get to bring friends...
>>71483170
Kek
>>71484426
I thought that was another failed dwarven expedition to reclaim Moria, which ran afoul of some orcs
I know this will sound like a troll question, but is Gandalf the White the same as Gandalf the grey? Watching the films, I couldn't quite understand if he was reborn or not, especially that one scene where he doesn't remember being called Gandalf the grey.
>>71484841
You'd think the dwarves would learn at some point.
>>71484911
Yes. He's actually not a human being at all, but closer to an angel or a minor divinity.
>especially that one scene where he doesn't remember being called Gandalf the grey
1) Ressurection is some heavy shit,
2) He's had dozens of names over the ages, he could forget one.
>>71481916
That scene went the exact opposite way in the book, if I remember correctly.
>>71484244
>unknowingly knew
Bravo Tolkien
>>71484911
>is Gandalf the White the same as Gandalf the grey
Yes.
Manwe didn't want his nigga to be out of the game so he sent him back.
Sometimes I cant fathom what Jackson was thinking. Why would Gandalf let Frodo decide where the Fellowship should go when he didn't really know anything relevant about the subject?
>>71484911
Gandalf has a very long life, he says something about being dead or something for an eternity after his fight with the Balrog, it's possible he forgot one of his many names during that eternity. And then Gandalf literally leveled up.
>>71485195
Probably meant like "Knew, but wouldn't accept it". Denial basically.
>>71485378
Most of the time Gandalf was effectively in charge, but during debates he probably didn't want to get into arguments with Frodo, because the Ring could use the tension to either increase Frodo's paranoia or tempt others to take it themselves.
Plus it's a quest that is supposed to be accomplished by the Free People of Middle-earth, Gandalf is just tagging along and providing just enough help that he's allowed to.
>>71485578
Yes but the way it was done in the book made sense. Why change it?
>>71485670
Probably to give Gimli more characterization, he's really the only one of the Fellowship who actually wants to go to Moria, and he and Legolas usually aren't the focus of the story so they get what they can.
Plus it helps progressively increase the tension if Gandalf of all people is afraid of going down there.
>>71485378
Gandalf knows all of their options suck, its >Moria (Balrog),
>Gap of Rohan (Saruman),
>Caradhras (Saruman's storm),
>or Gondor (Denethor tries to steal the Ring).
So to keep from insulting Gimli or Boromir by not choosing their routes he just leaves it up to Frodo and decides he will just deal with whatever problems arise
>>71481916
If he told Gimli "btw your cousin might be dead and I suspected as much but didn't tell you" Gimli would axe him in the dick.
>>71483109
>The Balrog of Moria was essentially just an urban myth.
A Balrog is not a creature of myth for Gandalf.
Fuck, he probably had some friends who ended up turned into Balrogs by Morgoth. Even if it appeared as hearsay, it was something that Gandalf still considered a possibility.
>>71486052
Nobody knew what the Bane of Durin was though. Not even Gandalf.
>>71484665
The dwarves won the battle but knew keeping moria would be thedeath of them. A lot of dwarves had already been killed and morale was extremely low.
>>71486115
I know, he even yells "NOW I UNDERSTAND" upon seeing the Balrog. He did know that something strange and dangerous was lurking in Moria, though.
Funny thing is, Galadriel and Celeborn most likely had to know WTF was Durin's Bane, but never bothered to tell anybody.
>>71486383
Elves are dicks.
>"They have taken the bridge and the Second Hall. We have barred the gates but cannot hold them for long. The ground shakes...drums, drums in the deep. We cannot get out. The shadow moves in the dark. We cannot get out. They are coming."
Serious question, how old is Aragorn supposed to be in LOTR? Because the ending of The Hobbit didn't make sense cont.-wise.
>>71483170
nice
>>71486477
~90, I think.
>>71486477
70, I think. His special blood makes him age slower.
>>71486477
In the movies he is 87
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShqgOuWUuwA
He is a descendant of Numenor and so he has the gift of a very long life
>>71486543
>>71486552
>>71486592
Had no idea until watching The Hobbit.
>>71486477
>Because the ending of The Hobbit didn't make sense cont.-wise.
It was a dumb fanservice scene, don't analyse it too much.
Keep in mind the timeline isn't the same in the books and the movies, there's supposed to be a 17 years gap between Bilbo's 111th birthday and Frodo actually leaving the Shire.
>>71486477
Aragorn is a Dúnedain, descendant of the old Numenoreans, basically a race of superhumans blessed by god. Their normal lifespan was about 160 years, and Aragorn was in his late 80s during LOTR.
>>71486681
>17 years gap
Holy fucking shit, really? I just reread them last summer, and I didn't catch that. I knew it was a decent while, but I thought like two or three, maybe. Reading comprehension, amirite?
>>71486761
Frodo is 33 years old at Bilbo's party (they were celebrating their birthday together, in fact) and he leaves the Shire at 50. The gap is because Gandalf wanted to do some research and observe if Frodo would cease to age before sending him on such a dangerous journey.
>>71486841
Well goddamn.
>>71486841
He was researching for SEVENTEEN fucking years? What the fuck? How didn't Sauron crush everyone in the meantime?
>>71481916
He was a good friend.
>>71487083
sauron was also doing research. He wanted to be a lore master in how many men your yeasty scut mother fucked, you piece of shit.
>>71487083
No Google in them days bud
plus travelling to Gondors library from shire to Gondor is a year there and back
so that's 3 years minimum
>>71487145
Hey Orc scum leave that Gonderian alone. Go back to your masters mud pit you filth.
>>71487208
How this ties in with Sauron finding out the Ring is in Shire?
>>71484272
what was the main gate?
>>71487083
>He was researching for SEVENTEEN fucking years? What the fuck?
1) The Ring is one of a kind and the info about it mostly died along with Isildur,
2) Middle-earth doesn't have modern methods of information, and on top of that Gandalf couldn't risk examining it itself if it really was the One Ring,
3) He's not the expert on magic rings - Saruman was, and he's also always very busy in other shit all over Middle-earth, so he took longer than he should have,
4) If I recall correctly, part of that gap was Frodo preparing the journey/giving away his fortune/procrastinating.
And the menace wasn't as prominent, Sauron was weak at the start of Fellowship and was only secretly rebuilding his forces. That was still a mistake on Gandalf's part: it gave Mordor the time to find and interrogate Gollum.
>>71487208
>plus travelling to Gondors library from shire to Gondor is a year there and back
Probably not that much if you're not traveling secretly.
>>71487273
Gollum had been captured by Aragorn and put in a cage in Mirkwood, and escaped during an orc assault. He found his way to Mordor in hope of finding the Ring, they captured him, and tortured the info out of him that the Ring had been taken by a "Baggins" from "the Shire". It was only a matter of finding where was the Shire (its bumfuck nowhere from Sauron's pov) and sending the Ringwraiths there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaHOvWMPeJA
>>71487335
They were called the Great Gates in Dimrill Dale
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Great_Gates
That reminds me about LOTR.
I was watching David Attenboroughs show and some ducks came on and it looked exactly like the Uruk-hai going after Frodo so I edited it to bring my vision to life.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzprViZB6uI
>>71487646
jej
>>71487646
kek
Got a question for the Tolkienites, why didn't Sauron ask Samaug and the Balrog to join his forces? From what I understand, the three of them most likely used to were buddies in the same army.
>>71487646
Ha smashing!
>>71487789
He didn't know about the Balrog and had no real way to reach him or convince him to join.
As for Smaug, Gandlaf had this exact possibility in mind during the Hobbit. He was tagging along with Thorin in hope of getting Smaug out of Erebor and possibly killed, to make the Eastern front less of a concern.
>>71487646
I'm glad they used real ducks and not CGI ducks like in the Hobbit
>>71483170
These are some of the best threads on /tv/, possibly even 4chan as a whole
>>71487941
LOTR threads always bring out great convo. I think it's because half or more of us have read the books so appreciate it. Also there's no memes and troll baits within LOTR to bait people with.
after porn discussions this is the most reasonable thread
>>71487996
>Also there's no memes and troll baits within LOTR to bait people with.
I love LotR but this isn't true at all.
>>71488038
Name some troll bait or memes that would ruse you.
All I can think of is Frodo being slightly gay towards Sam.
>>71487789
>the three of them most likely used to were buddies in the same army.
That probably was a big problem for Sauron, the guy was obsessed with dominating his subjects, and he wouldn't be able to do that with those two. Sauron most likely would have needed to offer a ton of spoils of war for them to bother, and the guy wasn't too keen on sharing his stuff.
>>71488097
Wasn't there one with the Uruk Hai complaining about the menu? Pretty sure I've seen that.
>>71487646
Classic kino
>>71487996
>also there's no memes or troll bait in LOTR
HOLD UP
>screeches
YOU SAYIN
>becomes indebted to Gandalf
WE SUM FINNA
>travels across middle earth in a matter of days
AYO MEN OF EARTH
>protects eggs
SUM KINDA
>acts as deus ex machina
EEEEEEEEAGLES AND SHIIIET?
F
>>71488128
We ain't had nothin but stale 'HOWEVER' memes for three stinkin' days!
>>71488128
sauromein probably took them for Chinese beforehand.
>looks like bbq spare ribs are back on the menu boys!
>>71487611
says they exit thought those gates in the movie
are these the great gates?
>>71488097
>Name some troll bait or memes that would ruse you.
Me? People that think Bombadil was an invincible badass.
/tv/ in general? Eagles, strong woman characters, >>71488128, how does it compare to GoT, etc...
>"I never called Edith Luthien – but she was the source of the story that in time became the chief part of the Silmarillion. It was first conceived in a small woodland glade filled with hemlocks at Roos in Yorkshire (where I was for a brief time in command of an outpost of the Humber Garrison in 1917, and she was able to live with me for a while). In those days her hair was raven, her skin clear, her eyes brighter than you have seen them, and she could sing – and dance. But the story has gone crooked, & I am left, and I cannot plead before the inexorable Mandos."
Actually scrub that. There's plenty of dank memes to go around
if I pull this ring off, will you turn visible?
>>71487451
>magic rings
what other magic rings existed? what powers did they have?
prepare for feels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXAvF9p8nmM
>>71488200
Guy was a poet
>>71486443
pretty epic scene to be honest
>>71488226
the three elven rings granted great magical green peace powers
That's why elrond and gladerial had sick forest / natural beauty in their towns
>>71488226
>what other magic rings existed?
Nigger, you can't be serious, the first movie starts by telling of the many rings that were created alongside the One.
>>71488249
A fuckin' hour.
no way tldw sorry
>‘Then in the plain of Anfauglith, one the fourth day of the war, there began Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Unnumbered Tears, for no song or tale can contain all its grief.’
>>71487646
Kek, Nice anon
>>71488362
yes but they never say if they have magic powers also im asking what those powers were
> At last Fingon stood alone with his guard dead about him; and he fought with Gothmog, until another Balrog came behind and cast a thong of fire about him. Then Gothmog hewed him with his black axe, and a white flame sprang up from the helm of Fingon as it was cloven. Thus fell the High King of the Noldor; and they beat him into the dust with their maces; and his banner, blue and silver, they trod into the mire of his blood.
>>71488390
Can't believe he made up dwarf and elven languages that are real.
I know a girl that plays the obo and can read and write elven.
it's amazing the time he put in.
>Last of all the eastern force to stand firm were the Dwarves of Belegost, and thus they won renown. For the Naugrim withstood fire more hardily than either Elves or Men, and it was their custom moreover to wear great masks in battle hideous to look upon; and those stood them in good stead against the dragons. And but for them Glaurung and his brood would have withered all that was left of the Noldor. But the Naugrim made a circle about him when he assailed them, and even his mighty armour was not full proof against the blows of their great axes; and when in his rage Glaurung turned and struck down Azaghâl, Lord of Belegost, and crawled over him, with his last stroke Azaghâl drove a knife into his belly, and so wounded him that he fled the field, and the beasts of Angband in dismay followed after him.
>Then the Dwarves raised up the body of Azaghâl and bore it away; and with slow steps they walked behind singing a dirge in deep voices, as it were a funeral pomp in their country, and gave no heed more to their foes; and none dared to stay them.
>>71487709
>jej
>>71488200
Didn't she beg him not to put his nerd shit on her grave?
>>71488226
Plenty of lesser rings that weren't much more than trinkets. Then you had twenty Great Rings: three for the Elves, seven for the Dwarves, nine for the Men, One for Sauron. All but Sauron's were made by elven smiths, but in time he corrupted the other ones except for the three elven Rings.
The nine human kings who received the rings gained greater force of will to dominate others and live longer, but eventually they turned into undead - the nine Ringwraiths, and Sauron confiscated their rings to better control them.
The seven dwarven rings had unclear power, I think they made their holder luckier and richer but also more greedy. They were either destroyed by dragons at some point, or lost. Balin was hoping to find one when he went to Moria.
The three elven rings had the power to preserve things: Elrond had one that made him a great healer and kept Rivendell a safe haven, Galadriel one that kept Lothlorien unchanged by time. A third Elf named Círdan had one that kept people braver and more willful - he gave it to Gandalf, which is partially why he's so great at inspiring people around him.
how big of a role did jackson play in fucking up the hobbit? It seems so weird that he makes lotr and then turns the hobbit into a superhero movie. were other people responsible for keeping him in line during lotr
>>71488425
BRUTAL
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>>71488500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQkygZdZ_Vk
>>71488468
Making up those languages probably was the easiest and most enjoyable parts for old man Tolkien.
>>71488187
Yes, although they are meant to look more imposing. They look quite impressive in LotrO, which does a great job depicting Moria
>>71488425
That's totally metal.
>>71488249
Thanks, watching this now
>>71487646
I'd pay good money to see this film
>>71488310
First Age must have been so epic
Thangorodrim are as high as Everest
>Sitting in the shadow of the stone there was a woman, bent over her knees; and as Húrin stood there silent she cast back her tattered hood and lifted her face. Grey she was and old, but suddenly her eyes looked into his, and he knew her; for though they were wild and full of fear, that light still gleamed in them that long ago had earned for her the name Eledhwen, proudest and most beautiful of mortal women in the days of old.
>‘You come at last,’ she said. 'I have waited too long.’
>'It was a dark road. I have come as I could,’ he answered.
>'But you are too late,’ said Morwen. 'They are lost.’
>'I know it,’ he said. 'But you are not.’
>But Morwen said: 'Almost. I am spent. I shall go with the sun. Now little time is left: if you know, tell me! How did she find him?’
>But Húrin did not answer, and they sat beside the stone, and did not speak again; and when the sun went down Morwen sighed and clasped his hand, and was still; and Húrin knew that she had died. He looked down at her in the twilight and it seemed to him that the lines of grief and cruel hardship were smoothed away. 'She was not conquered,’ he said; and he closed her eyes, and sat unmoving beside her as the night drew down.
>"Hail Gurthang! No lord or loyalty dost thou know, save the hand that wieldeth thee. From no blood wilt thou shrink. Wilt thou therefore take Túrin Turambar, wilt thou slay me swiftly?"
>And from the blade rang a cold voice in answer,"yea i will drink thy blood, that I may forget the blood of Beleg my master, and the blood of Brandir slain unjustly. I will slay thee swiftly"
>>71488716
>Ents have males and females
>Gandalf & co are looking at big wooden peckers
>>71485036
I hate that scene so much.
>Gandalf??
>Who the fuck is Gandalf. I'm Gandalf.
>“Well, here at last, dear friends, on the shores of the Sea comes the end of our fellowship in Middle-earth. Go in peace! I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.”
It's raining heavily in my conservatory and I'm reading these stories with my robe on listening to the rain.
max comfy
>>71488871
Id love this framed in my house
>>71488838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q7xzT4QLmU
>>71488495
>he gave it to Gandalf
why?
>>71488935
He guessed correctly that Gandalf would make better use of it. Círdan's main job is to build ships, like in >>71488838.
>>71488495
So does Gandalf have one of the elven rings during the lotr movies? We never see it, right?
>>71488998
You see it in LOTR films it's just not showcased
>>71488935
>Cirdan later surrended his (ring) to Mithrandir. For Cirdan saw further and deeper than any other in Middle-Earth, and he welcomed Mithrandir at the Grey Havens, knowing whence he came whither he would return.
>'Take this ring, Master,' he said, 'for your labours will be heavy; but it will support you in the weariness that you have taken upon yourself. For this is the Ring of Fire, and with it you may rekindle hearts in a world that grows chill. But as for me, my heart is with the Sea, and I will dwell by the grey shores until the last ship sails. I will await you.'
>>71488998
Yeah. He's hiding it though, but in the book he wear it openly during the Grey Havens scene, once Sauron's defeated.
>>71487646
>>71489042
Reminds me of pic related.
>>71489077
>the brown lands
>"people dare not venture to that part of the land. As the story goes, whoever goes, comes back with chronic diarrhea"
>>71489077
>Brown lands
>it's early India
>>71489176
>>71489211
Poopmind
>"Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains. On the House of Feanor the wrath of the Valar lieth from theWest unto the uttermost East, and upon all that will follow them it shall be laid also. Their Oath shall drive them, and yet betray them,and ever snatch away the very treasures that they have sworn to pursue. To evil end shall all things turn that they begin well; and by treason of kin unto kin, and the fear of treason, shall this come to pass. The Dispossessed shall they be for ever.
>"Ye have spilled the blood of your kindred unrighteously and have stained the land of Aman. For blood ye shall render blood, and beyond Aman ye shall dwell in Death's shadow. For though Eru appointed to you to die not in Ea, and no sickness may assail you, yet slain ye may be, and slain ye shall be: by weapon and by torment and by grief; and your houseless spirits shall come then to Mandos. There long shall ye abide and yearn for your bodies, and find little pity though all whom ye have slain should entreat for you. And those that endure in Middle-earth and come not to Mandos shall grow weary of the world as with a great burden, and shall wane, and become as shadows of regret before the younger race that cometh after. The Valar have spoken."
>>71489016
I'd like to have that one has a poster.
>>71482581
lol nerd stfu
>>71489275
noldor fucking shits
>At that sound the bent shape of the king sprang suddenly erect. Tall and proud he seemed again; and rising in his stirrups he cried in a loud voice, more clear than any there had ever heard a mortal man achieve before:
>Arise, arise, Riders of Théoden!
>Fell deeds awake: fire and slaughter!
>spear shall be shaken, shield be splintered,
>a sword-day, a red day, ere the sun rises!
>Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!
>With that he seized a great horn from Guthláf his banner-bearer, and he blew such a blast upon it that it burst asunder. And straightway all the horns in the host were lifted up in music, and the blowing of the horns of Rohan in that hour was like a storm upon the plain and a thunder in the mountains.
>Ride now, ride now! Ride to Gondor!
>Suddenly the king cried to Snowmane and the horse sprang away. Behind him his banner blew in the wind, white horse upon a field of green, but he outpaced it. After him thundered the knights of his house, but he was ever before them. Éomer rode there, the white horsetail on his helm floating in his speed, and the front of the first éored roared like a breaker foaming to the shore, but Théoden could not be overtaken. Fey he seemed, or the battle-fury of his fathers ran like new fire in his veins, and he was borne up on Snowmane like a god of old, even as Oromë the Great in the battle of the Valar when the world was young. His golden shield was uncovered, and lo! it shone like an image of the Sun, and the grass flamed into green about the white feet of his steed. For morning came, morning and a wind from the sea; and darkness was removed, and the hosts of Mordor wailed, and terror took them, and they fled, and died, and the hoofs of wrath rode over them. And then all the host of Rohan burst into song, and they sang as they slew, for the joy of battle was on them, and the sound of their singing that was fair and terrible came even to the City.
Post music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpGVfY50JkI
>>71489036
He's probably not hiding it. In the books Frodo can see Galadriel wearing her ring, while Sam cannot see it. Frodo sees it because he's carrying the One ring. I'd assume Gandalf's ring is visible in the end because the One ring is destroyed and it no longer has any power over the elven rings
>>71488482
>those shit dwarf masks
Git gud
>>71487646
fucking kek, the movie that keeps on giving
>>71488200
Fuck.
>>71488249
Where are the feels? I was promised feels.
>>71483170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pISzxdEgDCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT5-ZLJTi0I
>>71487996
>>71483097
The orcs retreated into Moria, they didn't give it up.
Some time after the Hobbit, Balin recruited some dwarfs to recolonize the now seemingly abandoned Moria, but after they established their colony, the orcs, who were hiding deep inside Moria, killed them all.
>>71490532
Imagine being interrogated by a cloaked guy twice your size that exudes bad vibes all around, and telling him to fuck off. No wonder Sam was such a badass, he wouldn't want to disappoint the Gaffer.
>>71484426
First try to reclaim Moria led by Thorin failed before they even got to the gate.
Balin tried again after Thorin was dead but before Frodo leaves the Shire.
LOTR lore threads are the best threads on /tv/ by a country mile
>>71490893
That's an awesome painting
>>71490893
Rithannen i geven
Thangen i harn
Na fennas i daur
Ôl dûr ristannen
Eryn echuiannen
I ngelaidh dagrar
Ristar thynd, cúa tawar
Dambedir enyd i ganed
Si linna i waew trin ylf
Isto i dur i chuiyl
I ngelaidh dagrar.
>>71489665
This gives me a throbbing erection.
>>71490893
that's a lot of ents
The Maiar/Valar in LoTr are retards who should have their lording over creation credentials take away.
>>71481916
He was a cunt desu
>>71491077
It's all part of Eru's plan, anyway.
>>71488249
>talk about epic FAIL in predictions
I literally said "CRINGE" out loud at that point.
>>71489096
Jesus Christ that game was nightmare fuel. No blood but the kid died horrific deaths.
>get dragged into cave
>see the kid struggling kicking his feet
>*SNAP*
>legs go limp
>dragged into the cave
>>71488695
;_; god damn
did they fuck?
yeah, they fucked
>>71491210
>that part were the goofy flying guy is turned into a demon
>>71491103
i always thought Gandalf was a dick in The Hobbit
nice to see he didn't change.
>>71483309
Isent the far north literally filled with slumbering Balrogs in hiding waiting for the return of Morgoth?
>>71491262
Tolkien can build a world better than anyone but he can't write for shit
>>71486434
Feminine dicks.
>>71483805
gandalf knew about the balrog ----sleeping---- in moria as well as the orcs, he was also aware of sarumans spies, enslaved theoden, and indeed boromirs desire to steal the ring aka easily corrupted men.
he let frodo choose simply because random was just as good as anything he could possibly suggest
Tolkien fucking sucks and he stole all his ideas from George RR Martin.
>>71491368
Protip: If you want to bait properly, replace Gurm with Wagner.
>>71491272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYyZfME5XYY
>be russian subhuman
>grow up thinking this is what gollum looks like
>2016
>Still discussing these cloakshit flicks and the comic books they were based on
>>71487083
bilbo says at the beginning of the film "third age of this world, BY SHIRE RECKONING", as were most of the dates in tolkiens work
>>71491428
nothing wrong with it, stop dissing mother russia
this one is my fav
>you weren't born a hobbit
>you have to have responsibilities in life
>you don't live underground
>you will never taste sweet hobbit puss
>>71491528
>you have to have responsibilities in life
So did most Hobbits, Bilbo, Frodo, Pippin and Merry were just rich bachelors.
>>71491525
That's just a fucking frog.
>>71485780
There is a huge element of destiny/fate tied to the Ring as well. Frodo was fated to have the ring and the implication is he knows or senses what the right action is because he carries it
>>71491525
>>71491598
>Gollum was so pathetic the Ring turned him into Pepe
Makes sense to me.
>>71491638
That's some hack writing
>>71491528
>Not a manlet
>Don't have hairy third world feet
>Don't live in the fucking ground
>Took a chick that was 5' tall to the bone zone a few weeks ago so pretty much fucked hobbit puss
Fuck being a hobbit, the age of man has come.
>>71487451
>He found his way to Mordor in hope of finding the Ring, they captured him, and tortured the info out of him that the Ring had been taken by a "Baggins" from "the Shire".
This sentence contradicts itself.
>>71491893
Tolkien is a hack famalam
>>71482581
Bane....
>>71491893
Well Gollum didn't know where the Shire was
>>71491972
Wasn't he from there? He at least knew what Hobbits were and that they wouldn't come from Mordor
>>71486434
>>71491893
How so?
>>71492046
No, he lived near the Anduin river, on the other side of the mountain.
I wonder, what does Sauron actually look like, what ia his true form?
>>71491972
He was making a pit stop to get some spider pussy
>>71491189
Eru is a retard
>>71492103
He looks like a big gay blue elf in the vidya.
>>71492103
maiar don't have "true form"
before the fall of numenor he would often appear to men as a graceful figure, kinda like a large elfish dude who was very beautiful
I think in the 1st age he was also known to transform to a large wolf
in the 3rd age his body is black and charred and he's kinda frail and not very beautiful but also he's definitely not a fiery eye
>>71492103
Generic Hot Super-Elf
>>71491893
Sauron "willed" all the dark things in middle-earth to his service. Gollum who was already searching for the shire and corrupted beyond anything by the ring was drawn to mordor
>>71492188
Giant eyeball on fire was Hacksons best decision in the movies
>>71492188
>he's definitely not a fiery eye
Imagine if that was the case:
>finally captured the Ring
>no fingers to put it on
>>71492169
>>71492188
>>71492188
Fucking Elves are like Germans, good at architecture but when they get too much power they manage to fuck everyone around them.
>>71485321
This is actually Eru that ressurected Gandalf.
>>71492046
He was (more or less) summoned by sauron
>>71492103
Just imagine pic related with pretty eyes
>>71492281
They've just become pussies.
>>71492103
He had multiple forms. By the time of the Third Age, he was mostly a shadowy apparition, though he does have an actual physical form by the end of the War of the Ring, though it's nothing like his Dark Lord form we see in the prologue of the film. There's also his fair form that he took during the Second Age when he was Annatar.
Would you?
>>71492361
They were always pussies
>>71492488
She's cute
>>71492111
*tips helm* Go back to Numeanor, Ar-Pharazon.
>>71492488
I doubt one of the most evil beings in Middle Earth would have a tumblr nose
>>71487996
>Also there's no memes and troll baits within LOTR to bait people with.
>SHARE THE LOAD
>boil em mash em stick em in a stew
>MANFLESH
>looks like meat's BACK on the menu boys!
>>71488923
kek
>>71487996
Lord of the Rings produced some of the earliest memes.
http://fellowcraft.ytmnd.com/
