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Why is everybody convinced they're going to fuck/marry?

Surely she's just as likely to kill him as a rival for her throne?
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>>71444128
incest
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>>71444128
Jon just wants to kill white walkers.
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Because this show has been predictable fanservice for every dumbass normie who gather with his friends on sunday night to livestream their ebin reactions to this weeks game of khaleesi and meme dwarf. This show manages to have such a simple plot while still filling it with plotholes and making it stupid, it's a feat in itself.
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>>71444191
Name some plotholes, go one then.
Asshole.
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You can guarantee that we will have a scene where John survives being scorched(probably by a dragon) showing everyone that he has Targ blood
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>>71444128
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista
Replace white walkers with moors
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>>71444128
Because in the end they´ll have the same interest: Protecting the realm against the white walkers
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dany is borderline obsessed with the throne

jon is the hero of the north and will be the hero of all of westeros, but he doesn't desire the throne, even if he he has a better claim than dany.

it will come down to whether dany is hated for being a conqueror, a woman and the daughter of the mad king or not. the power players in the realm, like CIA, Olenna or even Melly could convince Jon to claim the throne.
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>>71444128

> N O R M I E S

you think they would get away with killing everyone dogoes now? little pups would still be around if they hadn't been killed off before it went mainstream

it is literally going to have the most BS fairytail ending ever
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Jon doesn't want the throne tho. I'm surprised he didn't just fuck off and leave the north to Salsa. He didn't seem to give a shit anymore about the zombies when we woke up.
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>>71444321
Nah this is a muh socjus script now. Jon and Dany will rule jointly as targ and targ.
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>>71444228
are you seriously defending this shit show? on /tv/?
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>>71444128
They have to fuck/marry because the one who turns out to be Azor Ahai has to kill the other to bring forth Lightbringer.
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>>71444383
Yes. I have watched every season and read all the books.
Name something wrong with it.
I can't find it
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>>71444228
How did Arya survive and manage with the frey pies. Why does daenerys seem fine with Varys despite him trying to kill her. Why is sneks ruling Dorne.
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>>71444128
Isn't she his aunt? How is that okay?
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>>71444439
None of those are plot holes. They're shitty storytelling.

A real plot hole is Obara and Nym watching the ship leave at the end of season 5 only for them to be on the ship at the beginning of season 6.
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They'll marry and the only twist will be that Bran will wait to tell them they're related until after.
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>>71444439
Arya probably lied about carving Walder Freys sons up. She just had to put one of their fingers into an already finished meat pie to get the same effect.

Because Tyrion has vouched for Varys loyalty to her.

Because they killed all the patriarchy
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>>71444439
>>71444598
Why is Dany such an unlikable bitch of a character for no reason and never gets her comeuppance?
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>>71444331
I imagine he does want to stop Dany from burning down his kingdom though.

...and oh look she's conveniently now looking for a political marriage

...and oh look he's single
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>>71444631
Because Cersei exists and is still alive
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The only way they don't marry is if Euron or CIA find a way to throw a wrench in it. Otherwise it's the most obviously political beneficial marriage for Dany, who is looking to make a marriage alliance.
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dany got that goldeneye lips goin on
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>>71444128
Why would she kill
A) the only person that could give her a full blooded, pure born targ baby
B) the last of her family
"A targaryen alone in the world is a terrible thing"
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>>71444388
/thread
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>>71444723
Dany is sterile. The witch crashed her uterus with no survivors.
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>>71444723
because there is no place for more than 1 messiah. But since Snow is numale he could survive.
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>>71444770
She also said Dany would have a child when a bunch of seemingly impossible, but probably entirely figurative things happen. Many people think she can still have a child.
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>>71444458
DELETE THIS
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>>71444439
Those aren't really plot holes you mongloid
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>>71444128
It will replicate the dynamics of Lyanna and Rhaegar

POTTERY

Also The Song of Ice and Fire is an actual song that Rhaegar played to a pregnant Lyanna about their baby

The lyrics were carved in valyrian inside the box that contained the dragon eggs, you can see them.
The music is the intro theme.

DOUBLE POTTERY
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>>71444770
She bled from her vag for the first time after she left on drogon, just before the dothraki found her. It's implied that she's fertile again. Even if not, the second point stands. Only a male can carry on the name
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>>71444458
She'd be completely okay with it, she grew up thinking she'd marry her brother. Jon wouldn't be okay with it, but we don't know when or if he'll find out. Maybe Bran decides they NEED to marry to prevent a war and holds off on telling Jon.
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>>71444388
Rhaegar was Azor Ahai. Jon is Lightbringer, Lyanna was his Nyssa Nyssa

>Darkness lay over the world and a hero, Azor Ahai, was chosen to fight against it. To fight the darkness, Azor Ahai needed to forge a hero's sword. He labored for thirty days and thirty nights until it was done. However, when he went to temper it in water, the sword broke.

thirty days and thirty nights they try and try, that's the description of his first born, who was killed

>He was not one to give up easily, so he started over. The second time he took fifty days and fifty nights to make the sword, even better than the first. To temper it this time, he captured a lion and drove the sword into its heart, but once more the steel shattered.

Second born, with Ellaria.

>The third time, with a heavy heart, for he knew before hand what he must do to finish the blade, he worked for a hundred days and nights until it was finished. This time, he called for his wife, Nissa Nissa, and asked her to bare her breast. He drove his sword into her breast, her soul combining with the steel of the sword, creating Lightbringer, while her cry of anguish and ecstasy left a crack across the face of the moon.

Coincidentally 100 days were the time Lyanna and Rhaegar spent together
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>>71444128
From an in universe point, Jon is the best marriage candidate because he controls the north, and the north is the only area in Westeros that
A) is completely unified
B) has a well liked leader
C) has a clear line of succession should he die, so he can't just be quietly bumped off
D) has no reason or desire to bend the knee
E) is highly defensible in the winter

Sure, she could wait out the winter, but this is Dany we're talking about. You just know she'll be itching to send thousands to die in the cold before Varys or Tyrion talk her out of it.

From a meta point, they're the two most popular characters in the show, and D&D are well known panderers.
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>>71444993
Show proof
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>>71444148
Jonsa would be better
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>>71444128

It seems to make sense.

Jon is now king of the north, and I think the only thing he wants is to survive the white walkers, but I'm pretty surre the Lannisters (or whatever remains of them) arre against him.

So Daenerys has the Tyrells (whatever remains of them) and the Martell (same)

It makes sense that Jon marries (or, at least, becomes allies with) Daenerys, as to unify the north + the south vs. whoever supports Cercei. And then they can fight they Walkers.
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>>71444128
I'm sure they'll end up fucking at some point but not marrying. The only ending I see for Dany is dying with Drogo.
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Its normie bait, one of them will die.
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>>71444128
>inb4 the final battle comes down to a duel between the two of them
>cuts to black
Bravo HBO
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>>71445570
Dany will die on their wedding night.

Jon will be left to rule the Seven Kingdoms as a lonely bachelor
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At least in the book Dany hates Ned and the Starks and blames them as much for killing her siblings as Robert.

The unfortunate thing is they will probably end with a fairytale ending of the two marrying when they should hate eachother with only the white walkers to unite them.
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>>71444631
Because you have a deep hatred toward all women?
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>>71445681
Dany has never been enough of a retard to blame people for shit their family members did.

See also: Tyrion LANNISTER
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>>71445727
Dany has never met Tyrion.
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>>71445570
Yep... Dany will die in childbirth while popping out Jon's twin babies. Insert Dune and/or Star Wars references here.
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Jon sighed finally giving in to her plea, "You have always been strong, Dany, and I trust you know what it is you're doing."
"I do," With a gentle smile, her gaze resurfaced to meet Jon's. "I learnt to be strong from you."
He chuckled, his lips slowly pressing into a firm line. "Dany, whatever happened to the old days?"
She smiled sympathetically, "We grew up."
"Everything has changed."
"And it will continue to change," Dany murmured lost in a daydream as her hand came to press to her stomach. She turned sharply, an unreadable expression on her ethereal face. "Will you leave?"
"I don't know," Jon spoke after a moment, though his eyes told her differently. Reaching out, she intertwined their fingers, offering his hand a squeeze before guiding it to stomach. He looked at their joined hands pressed against her flat stomach; it only took a moment for realization to set in, his eyes quickly searched hers for any sign of acknowledgement.
"Months from now, I will bear a child." Dany's sweet voice rung in his ears, "our child."
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>>71445727
She pretty much believes what her brother told her and refuses to believe otherwise. Kek
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>>71444159
more like ally with them against Daenerys and her dragons.
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>>71445936
I'm sorry I can no long imagine dany being tender with anyone after the tv show
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>>71445975
She was tender with Khal Drogo but that was long time ago.
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>>71446017
all I can see in my mind's eye with dany is a she boon screaming
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>>71444643
Bearloli will claim her prize.
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>>71445931
The Dune thing might actually fit in the books.

Jon = Paul
Ygritte/Val = Chani
Dany = Irulan
Wildlings = Fremen

I T F I T S

George, you hack
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>>71444128
as a great man once said
>it's like poetry
>every stanza kinda rhymes with the last one
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>>71444128
Because they know that if they shitpost too hard about it,D&D will make it happen
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>>71444128
Dany can't have children. The Targeryen dynasty is dead.
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>>71446261
see
>>71444870
>>71444812
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>>71444128
Dany killing Jon wouldn't make sense. Jon clearly has no interest in even being King in da Norf, why the fuck would he want the Iron Throne? He's not even remotely an obstacle to her. Even if she wanted to kill him out of paranoia, le smug dwarf would tell her not to. There's absolutely no scenario (on the show at least) where Dany kills Jon without it being horribly contrived.

All he cares about is fighting the White Walkers. Dany is going to need help doing this, so naturally she'll team up with him. Additionally, Jon is family, as Bran will no doubt let everyone know. If it's true that Dany is the honorable stronk womyn we're being led to believe she is, kinslaying would look out of character, especially since it would serve no purpose other than "these two popular characters need to fight each other".
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>>71444128
Anyone here think that the dragons would refuse to attack Jon if Dany commands them to?
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>>71444439
>Why is sneks ruling Dorne.

Really, how did Ellaria take the rule there? She's a bastard paramour that killed Doran and the prince. On what premise would Dornishmen accept her rule?
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>>71446428
see
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>>71444568
They have a teleporter which they then loaned to Varys after the meeting with the Queen of Thorns so that he could get back to the ship to sail to Westeros with Tyrion and friends.
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>>71445658
Context?
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>>71445658
Stop Smirkposting pls, it makes me sad.
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>>71446603
Theyre brown and should do what go brogressives tell them too. And plus "Not caring about gendered succession" means feminist matriarchy to le hackermen.
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>>71446758
From a British TV show called Film_____ (insert current year) which asks candid questions of it's celebrity guests.
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>>71446172
>>71445931

Hell no man.

Paul was too tragic in that he knew what would happen to his wife and he allowed Irulan slip her contraceptives to stop her from dying.

The TV series had a great scene where Paul kisses Irulan and thanks her for disrupting Chani's cycle and basically cockblocking his heirs from being born because he got time to spend with Chani. Then Irulan turns to into an emotional wreck because that was the only time Paul ever showed any real emotion towards her.

That fucking book had so many layers to it, GOT is a bus stop novel. Doesn't even compare.
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>>71446848
She burned the coal and now she paid the toll.
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>>71446918
>>71446172
>>71445931
>tfw Sansa = Alia

it's fitting even harder with every moment that passes
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>>71444128
join up with Dorne + Reach + Iron Born, marry Jon. that gives her everything but the Westerlands, Crownlands, Riverlands, Vale and Stormlands

Stormlands will side with her because all the Barathions are dead and they probably hate the Lannisters. Little finger holds the Vale and Harrenhal and Sansa will probably get the Riverlands if she sides against Jon as she is half Tully BUT they will probably side with Danny against the crown so its literally Danny & Jon(if they marry and he is the best choice) against the Lannisters and the remaining shit tier Freys.

why they bloody killed off Trystane Martell when they ended the season like that i have no bloody idea(lol dabid&dabin). he would have made the perfect choice to marry giving her Dorne but instead we have yet another stupid stronk wimin because yaaaassss qweeeennn
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>>71447333
Did you not see the finale where the Vale lords + LF declare Jon Snow as King?
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Show will have happy ending. Daenerys as queen of Seven Kingdoms, Tryion will be her hand and Jon will be defender of the north.
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>>71447410
yes but Littlefinger supports Sansa and he controls the Vale knights though Sweet Robbin. clearly Sansa is Littlefinger 2.0 or is being made to be, clearly there is going to be a split between them next season as she tries to gain power as a true Stark
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>>71444148
Targaryens incest all day every day
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>>71447610
'them' as in Sansa and Jon.
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>>71447610
You really think that the Vale would openly declare for Jon Snow just to later ruin their reputation by backstabbing him? And why so sure Sansa would stab Jon Snow in the back?

Also, Bran is coming back soon and he's the actual heir.
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>>71445967
>her dragons
dragons will betray weakling Dany and obey to the war specialist Jon Targaryan.

or. 3 dragons -> 3 Targaryan (Dany, Jon, Gendry)
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>>71447610
House Royce has been BFFs with House Stark since the dawn of time, and Yohn Royce is a Ned Stark "muh honor, muh tradition" type who also happens to detest Robin and Littlefinger. I suspect it won't be too long before Robin and CIA are BTFO'd (by anyone, Sansa, Bran, Arya, Yohn himself, etc) and then Yohn is put into power in The Vale.
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>>71447996
>tfw Yohn and Jon both know CIA is untrustworthy and sold Sansa off to House Bolton
>tfw they'll just gloss over that next season and neither of them will act against CIA before he starts plotting to kill them again

CIA is D&D's greatest Mary Sue. They'll probably have him marry both Dany and Sansa. At the same time.
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>>71447996
in the books didn't LIttlefinger essentially buy Royce by making him the head of one of the gates, iirc he seemed very happy about his new position

>>71447821
if Sansa Marries Sweet Robin, yes. also all the foreshadowing and the look she gave Little finger right at the end
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>>71448207
>in the books didn't LIttlefinger essentially buy Royce by making him the head of one of the gates, iirc he seemed very happy about his new position
In the books Yohn possibly recognized Sansa when CIA is still claiming she's his daughter, and CIA says he thinks Yohn is going to be a problem going forward because he was the only one of the lords declarant that didn't seem to buy his bullshit.
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>>71448207
A satellite branch of House Royce controls the gates, not Yohn. Yohn is the head of the big boy branch.
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I hope euron murders this cunt so I don't have to look at her smug fucking face anymore. She's seriously the worst character in the entire show.
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>>71444128
She litteraly said she needs to marry someone, but she doesn't know who. Judging by the few possible males in power...Jon is really the only possible one for now. Euron wants to marry her, but she'll be gone before he arrives.
Littlefinger is not really in a good position right now, and Jaime is just a soldier at this point.
I can't think of anyone else, it's pretty clear.
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>>71445658
>thinking the female lead will be the first to be killed off in feminist pandering: the show
you're delusional
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In the books when Dany receives her prophecy of the 3 mounts/ loves she will have the last of the 3 is depicted as a blue winter rose growing out of a chink of ice. It's been hinted that she will marry Jon for years.
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>>71448571
Jaime also killed her father and Dany is allied with Euron's enemy family members. There's Robin, but he's still CIA's puppet for now, most expect he'll die, and he's too much of a weak bitch for Dany's superficial tastes in men. Jon does seem like the best option for her still. It seems kind of obvious though. Either they're trying to make us think it will happen to set up for a tweest or they're really bad at hiding it.
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>>71444128
If you put Jon in the middle of a fire, does he survive?
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Here is the problem.
Who is still alive and actually knows that Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna?

Howland Reed? Anyone else?
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>>71449233
dont think so cuz in season 1 he burned himself when he threw the torch at the wight to save the lord commander
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>>71444128
jon snow will die after knocking her up. DUH!!!

They will probably link up in season 7.B (if they split it up into 1 season 2 years) and fight in a battle or two together. FUCK then jon will die in the final battle. They will do this cheesy route. Watch.
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>>71449241
The dragons will know.
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>>71449259
>>71449233
It's dumb because in the books Dany's funeral pyre thing in S1/Book 1 was supposed to be a unique event brought on by magic (GRRM said so), but in the show they've just made her full-on immune to fire. Jon burned himself in the books and show, and Dany burned herself in the books. Its impossible to say what D&D intend and what is just them being inconsistent or sloppy.
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>>71444284
Daenerys has literally never heard about the white walkers.

And by the way, what is the white walkers end game anyway? So far it looks like they always stay in cold areas. Now that winter has come, it's going to be cold throughout most of westeros.
But essos, for example, looks like it always does. It's also beyond the narrow sea.
Can the white walkers even get to essos
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>>71449171
They're probably trying to go for a "surely it can't be that simple?" double bluff, but are hindered by the fact that people tend to expect the simplistic from D&D until proven otherwise, or are just too stupid to figure out it might be a ruse.
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>>71449241
>Here is the problem.
>Who is still alive and actually knows that Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna?
Are you fucking stupid lad

One of the main points of this season was about a time traveller whose eyes we saw through.
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>>71449432
Who can not really communicate with anyone through it and can't move.
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>>71449472
He's on his way to Winterfell you thick cunt. Look m8 I know it's took a nosedive in quality and I know it's easier these days to just shitpost on 4chan instead of watching it but fucking hell, pay attention.
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>>71444128
He doesn't want the throne, he just wants to kill ice zombies.

Even if he goes along with this king in the norf shit, the north only really wanted revenge on the Lannisters, not the iron throne. Dany would have no real conflict with Jon besides the north's place in the seven kingdoms, which can probably be negotiated after the Lannisters are gone.

>>71449472
Benjen left him and Meera near the Wall. He's going south. Maybe even quicker than actually possible for a cripple being dragged by a girl if D&D gives him that sweet teleportation magic everyone else besides Sam has.
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>>71449241
Why is this a problem? If anything nobody knowing about that will make it more likely to happen. Most people think incest is icky.
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>>71449535
>>71449708
For some reason I thought he was growing literally attached to the tree chair and would never really move away from it.
Maybe I dreamed that.
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>>71449708
>He doesn't want the throne, he just wants to kill ice zombies.
please think before typing
>>71444643
etc
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>>71444598
They are plot holes that you are just filling in with your shitty head canon. The Arya thing is never shown or even implied in any way. Fucking fag/got/.
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>>71444128
Dany has the Iron Islands, Dorne, the Reach, most of the Dothraki, tons of sellswords, dragons, plot armour, Tyrion's plot armour on top of her own plot armour, and Varys' teleportation devices. Cersei has what's left of the Lannisters and the Freys.

It's pretty clear how the show's going to do it. Dany swoops in, deals with Cersei quite easily, then hears about some King in the North. Tyrion will say, "Jon Snow? I know him! He didn't make dwarf jokes and he's a bastard so he's my friend. Let's drink and talk to him and drink and be witty," and then they talk and Dany says no cis whitewalker men are going to take my queendom and they team up. Oh by the way I killed Cersei and got revenge for you all and also the only people who aren't already serving me are people loyal to you let's fucc xD

And they live happily ever after until one of them dies shockingly, and it goes down as a triumph in televisual art, and GRRM dies before finishing the books, and we have endless threads being bitter about it.
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>>71450264
You forgot Sam

pls think about Sam
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>>71450264
jon will probably die in the final battle by sacrificing himself somehow to kill the night king, but not before fucking dany and giving her a child who will be the rightful heir to both the north and the iron throne
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>>71444128
Fat Emilia will break Jon's white boi dick.
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>>71450334
Who cares about Sam anyways?
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>>71450334
he becomes a measter and writes A Song of Ice and Fire
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>>71444128
They will beat the White Walkers in the end, but in the finale Jon will destroy the Iron Throne, thus ending the Game of Thrones.
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>>71450382
Jon dying again would make absolutely no sense since he has already died once and was resurrected. You can't play the same trick twice from narrative POV.
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>>71450334
He learns to channel his autism and goes on to mass produce Valyrian steel.
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>>71450334
How did Sam remain so fucking fat
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>>71450600
he was resurrected because he needs to fulfill his purpose in the great war against the white walkers
he's basically a dead man walking on borrowed time and he will die once the war is over
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Shocking twist, Dany was a Blackfyre the whole time and was just lied to about being a Targaryen, the eye brows were a subtle hint she wasn't a true blood the entire time
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>>71450745
>those fat arms
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>>71450918
My point is his second death would hardly have worthy emotional impact.
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>>71450818
Stopped at Hot Pie's for most of his nearly 2 seasons worth of offscreen time on the way to horn hill.

He doesn't not have teleportation magic, he just had to maintain his weight.
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>>71451136
It being a stupid thing to do won't stop them from doing it.
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>>71451191
Who is fatter, Sam or Dany
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>>71445719
SJW muh stronk womyn spotted.
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>>71451407
Dany. Its not fat its muscle. He walked from Horn Hill to Oldtown with a greatsword in heavy leathers. No teleporting magic only his 2 legs.
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>>71451136
it will give his story arc a nice, clean ending and leave the audience with a satisfying feeling of closure
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>>71451484
He rode in a cart and the sword is valyrian steel which is basically mithril and light as a feather
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>>71449347
Yi Ti and its five ports defend essos.

Theyll be fine
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>>71444228

Why did Cersei order Maester Pycelle lured to the sewers to be violently daggerfucked by the little birds and Qyburn? He was already on his way to the sept, and would have be exploded with all the others. Qyburn even states that it's nothing personal, and it didn't seem like he was being sarcastic.

There was literally no motive to personally attack Pycelle. This was obviously an attempt to depict Kevan's final ADWD scene, but changing the circumstances make it make no logical sense.
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>>71444128
Because Jon is literally the only character of any political worth who's relevant to the plot. I mean who's she gonna marry? The retarded kid that Little Finger is playing?
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>>71453812
Maybe she wants somebody to peg for once
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>>71444228
How about Stannis/Jon's disappearing fleet of ships?
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>>71450971
virgin
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDS-gJu6W_M
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>>71450745
What is this from? Are they dating irl?
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>>71450818

The same way Gilly's baby hasn't aged more than a year in the the 4+ years of the show's timeline (using Sansa's age as a scale).
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>>71455125
From a photo shoot back in season 2 I think. No they never dated.
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It was some photoshoot from a few seasons back. Kit is dating Rose Leslie (Ygritte), though they broke up briefly at one point. I think Kit and Emilia are close friends though. There are pictures floating around of them hanging out with Rose.
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