ITT: movies that literally everybody enjoyed
I'll start
>>71208621
>Movie felt way too short
>So many plotholes such as how the Empire were able to build a massive Death Star carved into a planet in only 30 years when all the Empire were defeated
>Movie should have begun when Kylo was dropped off at Luke's Jedi Academy: as we get to know him more and why he joined the dark side
But of course due to JJ wanting to make an absolute copy of A New Hope: we had to begin the movie with Kylo in the mask and Stormtroopers massacring an area just like A New Hope begins
>Han Solo should not have died
>JJ should have gone with the original script idea where Luke is met earlier in the film and Rey and Luke go on adventures together as they track down ancient artifacts - this then would have let Luke come face to face with Han and eventually Leia and all 3 of the original team would have been reunited
>Rey is a Mary Sue: absolutely makes no sense with how she knows everything about the force; is able to do Jedi mind tricks without anyone teaching her... if JJ filmed a scene with her reading a book about the Jedi myths or about Han explaining to her about the force then it would have all made sense - only way for it to now make sense is if Rey is a reincarnation of Anakin which explains why all powers come easy to her
>Luke would never abandon all his friends and become a hermit (again JJ is doing this just so Episode 8 is exactly like ESB with Rey going to be trained with a Yoda like wise Jedi).
>Why the fuck does Rey need to be trained? She is a Mary Sue who knows everything? She almost beat a Sith Lord (who cares if he was injured).
>The lack of Prequel content (such as no prequel planet ever mentioned) disturbed me greatly
>>71208688
>The lack of Prequel content (such as no prequel planet ever mentioned) disturbed me greatly
All I needed to see
>>71208688
Nice pasta faggot, you must be Italian.
>>71208702
This "prequels are crap" meme has to die
>>71208748
You have to go back to /co/, child.
>>71208688
waaa waaa why didn't they make the movie just for me waaaaa
>>71208722
So you decide to not even address the problems I have listed?
Yes I copy pasted it from another thread that I posted in BECAUSE I still haven't heard a rebuttel to all these problems.
There is something seriously wrong with you if you think the Force Awakens is a 10/10 movie.
This movie was great fun no doubt but it had some of the worst editing I've seen in a blockbuster - the scenes moved way too fast, no backstory explanation at all.
Which is why I state: who is the main character that we are following the story through the eyes of? It's not Rey because we know nothing about her; JJ didn't explain why she is a Mary Sue and knows everything about the force.
Just as Han would say "That's not how the force works!"
>>71208688
>Han Solo should not have died
well ford sure as fuck didn't want to stick around for another two movies
>>71208826
>triggered
>>71208748
im glad the force awakens is triggering all the prequel kids who grew up with them, now they finally know what its like to have something you love turned to garbage
>>71208801
Once again: you haven't rebutteled what I have said.
>why didn't they make the movie just for me
When did I ever say that?
I simply addressed all the main issues I have with it: such as there being no backstory at all; we know nothing about the last 30 years we missed such as how the starkiller base was formed.
At least with the prequels: we know everything with how the death star was built, how Anakin's new empire was formed.
But with TFA: it throws us right into the middle of a story - with no beginning.
This is exactly as if Peter Jackson began his LOTR trilogy by beginning halfway through Fellowship of the Ring with no explanation with why all of them are travelling together.
This is exactly what JJ has done.
>No explanation to the Mary Sue dilema
>No explanation to starkiller base forming
>No explanation how Kylo met snoke
>No explanation to how a new empire was formed when they were all destroyed
It only did so well amongst critics because of nostalgia and because it is a 10/10 action/adventure movie.
I KNOW it is a 10/10 brilliant action movie BUT a movie shouldn't just be action based.
The prequels are brilliant with its politics - the Order 66 politics being some of my favorite Star Wars content ever. Sadly JJ did not include any politics at all: not even 5 minutes worth. It cuts from scene to scene at such a fast pace.
I hear the movie was originally 30 minutes longer. JJ is an ass for cutting it down; even more of an ass for not releasing all the deleted extended scenes on blu ray.
I truly hope he does release all these deleted scenes in a future remaster box set.
>>71208873
And there you go again: just referring back to memes without any rebuttal.
>>71208937
This has to be a bait comment. I seriously have no idea how anyone can hate the prequels apart from Anakin and Padme's relationship and maybe Jar Jar.
All the podracing, new planets, Revenge of the Sith are masterpiece classes of brilliance.
Is it because the Old Trilogy was a kid's film like TFA is but the prequels are more adult i.e. they require a longer attention spam?
>>71209004
>bait
you realize no one who grew up with the original star wars likes the prequels dont you? is this your first day on /tv/?
>>71209078
>you realize no one who grew up with the original star wars likes the prequels dont you?
>no one
again bait
Is /tv/ the most pathetic userbase on 4chan? The contrarian mental gymnastics regarding Star Wars: TFA is incredible and at the same time absolutely loathsome.
The constant denial, backtracking and moving the goalposts.
>"TFA will be shit! Fucking Jew Jew Abrams, fucking nigger main character, fucking SJWs! People won't accept this! It will be worse than the prequels and a total flop!"
>Trailer drops. Record pre-sales, screenings booked out months in advance. Hype incredibly high.
>"I-i-t'll still be a flop! Guaranteed to be shit! Phantom Menace sold well too before people realised it was shit! N-nigger character!"
>TFA releases. 5 star reviews, record opening day. People love based Johnny B's performance, and he's very well received.
>"o-ok it might not be as bad as we thought, but it's still not going to beat Jurassic World! Disney are finished!"
>Beats Jurassic World, despite being released in off-season and no Chinese release.
>"J-just wait until based RLM eviscerates it for being A New Hope ripoff in a Mr Plinkett review! You'll f-fucking see then Starfags!"
>Mike loves it. RLM approve and think it has saved the Star Wars franchise from the prequels.
>"FUCKING SHIT FILM, MARY SUE JEW SHIT. PREQUEL LOVE THREAD. WHO FUCKING LOVES ATTACK OF THE CLONES? I DO. REVENGE OF THE SITH WAS BETTER THAN ROTJ. BASED GEORGE LUCAS. WELL AT LEAST TFA WON'T BEAT AVATAR, I FUCKING SWEAR TO GOD PLEASE."
The mouthbreathing basement dwellers who strive to be contrarian have been backed into a corner really, they started so verbose. So confident that the film would be a flop, not break any records and would be panned by critics. Slowly as TFA has BTFO them on every conceivable level, they've been reduced to adopting some bizarre cult-like contrarian attitude to the prequels, proclaiming them as underrated gems, and trying to push some kind of narrative where if TFA doesn't beat Avatar, it's somehow failed, despite already being a record breaking movie and saving Star Wars.
been awhile since there's been some genuine autism in here
thanks lad
>>71209187
Time to derail this shitty thread.
>>71208748
please die.
>>71208949
>The prequels are brilliant with its politics
you don't fucking deserve a real reply.
>>71209273
>pixar tier
The only thing missing here is Buzz Lightyear
>>71209266
Rolling for my gf, will she take me back?
>>71208702
finally Fredposting for a good cause
BASED FRED
>>71209266
>>71209365
Goddammit pupper, sleep well.
>71209266 (No You For You)
let's see
>>71209266
Does she still loves me?
>>71209187
>pic related
hehe I loved that scene from the movie
>The way Han throws a bad guy into the beast to save himself
At least JJ got this right
>>71208949
if you want to know why the prequels are horseshit
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5919C8DE6F720A2D
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL56E3EB1DFD4B64A2
https://youtu.be/ABcXyZn9xjg
educate yourself. this has been discussed to death.
don't reply with memes.
>>71209266
Are the prequels better than TFA?
>>71209273
I wish for you to survive anon and found out how masterful the prequels secretly are :^)
>>71209479
truly… this is… kino……
>>71209459
>watching a negative review to a movie I have seen 15+ times and enjoy
yeah not going to happen
>>71209273
Kek
>>71209548
I seriously have no idea why you keep posting this.. sure the CGI palpatine office is something to laugh at but this scene is fucking decent dude.
>Decent CGI
>Jar jar being goofy but then that's his character throughout the movie so I don't see your point with that
>The CGI is decent for its time
Remember video game graphics were pic related when this movie was made.
I think Lucas did a decent job with this movie with its CGI.
>>71208621
I didn't enjoy it so go fuck yourself, cunt.
>>71208688
>only way for it to now make sense is if Rey is a reincarnation of Anakin which explains why all powers come easy to her
This would be sick 2 b honest senpai
>>71209606
...he may have gone too far in some places
>>71209273
I love that animation! All the machines and environment look great although I hate the animated stormtroopers.
No idea why people entirely make fun of this scene
>>71209548
Why would the tank go off course like that?
That destroyed battledroid would presumably be the gunner and the pilot/driver would be still inside perfectly safe?
In fact the tank wouldn't need a fucking driver, if they have the ability to create sentient droids they'd use that tech in the tank itself right?
>>71209616
I wouldn't expect a dirty Australian to enjoy it.
Go fuck some more sheep dingo boy.
>>71209468
lol
pupper knows best
>>71209563
It's the truth, but keep covering your ears and enjoy your space space if you can't handle it.
>>71208748
I hope you're being ironic
>>71209704
It's dull, lifeless, and has no humanity to it.
It takes no skill to make this, it's lazy and uninspired.
>>71209704
Same
>>71209273
which episode of the clone wars cartoon is this from?
>>71210009
The season premiere.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0pP66O9VN0
>>71209273
there's literally nothing wrong with this scene.
I want redditlettermedia to leave.
>>71210075
nice boogeyman
>>71209266
rollin
>>71210075
>I want redditlettermedia to leave.
same here anon
>>71210075
came here to post this
it's a fantastic scene
>>71209831
kill yourself anti-art pleb
>>71209273
>My CGI movie is way better than your CGI movie
you people are fighting like fucking idiots
>>71209266
will we secretly bang when she gets back to the country?
>>71209266
will i slay mad pussy when i go to brazil?
>>71209266
rolling
>>71209266
REEEEE FUCK YOU CHIHUAHUA GIVE ME THE ANSWER I WANT
>>71208621
Man of Steel or better yet Man of feels
>>71209831
>It's dull, lifeless, and has no humanity to it.
You people keep trying too hard. Just please fuck off
You hate Lucas for CGI but praise JJ for CGI?
>>71211052
>>71211213
you must be joking, one of the most emotionally stunted and lifeless movies I've ever seen.
Don't let the fantastic score fool you.
>>71211252
>Don't let the fantastic score fool you.
>fantastic score
well there at least you found something good about the movie. that's the main point.
>>71211225
>all CGI is bad
False.
You just don't understand why it's disliked, you nostalgia is blocking you from doing so.
That scene had excitement and buildup and chase full of fantastically executed practical explosions before the nessesary CGI for the Falcon.
The Jakku dogfight was well shot and was exciting.
The Geonosis fight... just happens. and no one cares about what's going on. It's bland and boring and falls flat on its face. Not to mention it aged like milk.
Jurassic Park is an example of where a movie from 1993 STILL holds up. That's impressive.
None of the prequels hold up at all.
TFA will still look great 20 years from now aside from Maz.
Say what you will about the CGI: but this moment was so fucking emotional especially for me.
>The way the stormtroopers stop and aim at him
>The confused concerned look on his face as they have been following orders by him all this time and suddenly want to kill him
This Order 66 bit made me cry
>>71211252
>fantastic score
>>71211402
>stormtroopers
Stopped reading right there
>>71209273
>>71209704
The desert and the tanks are actually practical models. The stormtroopers and the Lucrehulk control ships are animated.
>>71211362
>Jurassic Park is an example of where a movie from 1993 STILL holds up.
Please stop looking at the movie with your nostalgia: the 1993 CGI hasn't aged well in Jurassic Park - but the practicals have for sure.
Now judge this JW CGI to AoTC CGI - slowly it was coming together to where it is today but it wasn't there yet hence it looks fake and cartoony.
>>71211461
The end result is crap, so it's fruitless.
>>71211430
I meant the Republic ok sorry I am crying here
;_:
>>71208621
I'd say Amadeus, but millenials exist.
>>71208621
In Armond we trust.
Stay mad faggots.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428730/star-wars-demystified
>>71208621
There are no such movies and fuck your stupid remake and your stupid opinion you retarded autist.
>>71211362
>None of the prequels hold up at all.
This has got to be the biggest load of bait I've read today.
>the podracing
>the opening scene of Phantom Menace
>the fucking underwater gungan place
>the gungan underwater vehicle
>Christopher Lee as Count Dooku
>Sheev
>The Darth Maul fight
>Anakin V Obi Won
>Anakin burning alive after he has lost his legs
>Order 66
You are saying that NONE of this stuff holds up and that TFA has way more memorable events?
>>71209273
How I wish we had a clone wars trilogy full of George Lucas and his amazing CGI.
>>71209831
Thanks for the WEBM.
Any LAAT action scenes are welcome. God dam was that a sexy machine when it debuted.
>>71211362
>The Jakku dogfight was well shot and was exciting
No, it was dog shit and you have no taste
prequel CGI is lightyears ahead of it
>>71211533
>the podracing
waving around your special effects budget to componsate for lack of plot. That felt like it didn't belong in the movie.
>the opening scene of Phantom Menace
Looked alright, Trade Federation puppets were godawful though.
>the fucking underwater gungan place
Yawn.
>the gungan underwater vehicle
Yawn.
>Christopher Lee as Count Dooku
what a fucking waste of a good actor on such a horrible character and script.
>Sheev
Fantastic, but his plan in episode 3 made no fucking logical sense even more so than Loki in The Avengers and the dude from Skyfall. Plan consisted of too many uncertainties and assumptions.
>The Darth Maul fight
no emotion. people hitting each other with sticks intercutted with hershlag shooting people we don't care about, a space battle with a 10-year-old who we hate, and cartoon rabbit fighting in a boring and downright stupid battle
>Anakin V Obi Won
Loved every second of it. Best part of the prequels.
>Anakin burning alive after he has lost his legs
Looked fantastic.
>Order 66
More CGI but the Score was incredible and actually caused some emotion. Can't complain.
>>71211052
When did the Millennium Falcon get upgraded plot armor?
>>71208688
Can we bring the conversation back to these Force Awaken problems?
Once again: the reason that all of you love it is because it is exactly like A New Hope - and by that I don't mean it has no originality i.e. Finn etc. What I mean is that the movie has the exact same plot points.
>Begin the episode in the middle of a warzone
>Bad guy already exists with no explanation as to how he got there
I would have preferred like I said; to see JJ begin the story with Kylo at Luke's temple: for us to get to know who Kylo is and when Snoke began to possess him.
But of course: you OT lovers just cannot grasp the importance of character development and character arcs.
This is the whole reason why Lucas wanted to show Anakin as innocent before he journeyed to the dark side: to show that he was just like you and me (mediocre acting aside).
The prequels are based on Shakespearian work: take Macbeth.
We get to know Macbeth way before he journeys to the dark side due to those witches that command him to kill - just like Palpatine commanded Anakin to kill.
We had the OT begin with not knowing who Vader was BUT Lucas went back and fixed that and I appreciate the prequel story that we got.
>We got to know who Obi Won was
>We got to know how the Clone Wars began
So when we go back to watch the OT, we can relate to the movie a lot more and understand the world more.
Now with TFA: We have absolutely no understanding of this world; why suddenly a new army came out of nowhere, why a massive starkiller base carved into a planet was made.
NO EXPLANATION AT ALL!
Also: fucking JJ for deciding to destroy the starkiller base.
Also: fucking JJ for making it so easy to be destroyed: so in 30 years time, the Empire still haven't designed a safe base to protect themselves from rebels?
Also: fucking JJ for making Captian Phasma so weak as to decide to yield.
I thought the Empire were based on Nazis? Does anyone know how important Hitler was to the Nazis? No Nazi would yield.
>>71211362
>Nostalgia
Not the same anon, but I've ended up not getting griped by the OT in chldhood (war more of a Jurassic Park kid), neither did I see eps I and II when they came out, and only witnessed the whole of saga in my teenage years.
I don't get your gripe with the design of the prequels. Almost every scene was created using practical effects, either through sets or miniatures. Even fucking Kamino was built by Adam Savage as a series of models. All of these were enhanced on the computer, to give it more of a futuristic look, but in the essence is the cooperation between practical models and CGI (just like in Jurassic Park, by the way).
Liking or not liking specific scenes is subjective. I did not like the Jakku dogfight (except for the trench run in the Executor). In fact, I did not like any of the fights because, in my opinion, Abrams can't direct them.
Look at every big starship battle in Star Wars. Ep III and Ep VI are the best examples. There huge shots of the battlefield that show off the ships from all sights, POVs of individual fighters and fighter wings, the harmony of sound, music and action. TFA barely gives us a clear shot of the Star Destroyer, and the final battle doesn't even feature any rebel ships, because it's easier to animate another X-Wing trench run than do something as epic Battle of Coruscant.
I don't want to insult those who liked TFA, but NONE of JJ's cinematography made me feel like he understands Star Wars more than being able to ape some pottery shots from ANH and ESB. Look at how Vader is introduced every time in ESB: there's an establishing shot of the Executor and the fleet, theme music playing, only THEN do we get to the Vader scene (same with ANH's Death Star Moff scenes). Only at moments of high tension (like the Death Star battle) are there direct cuts from one scene to the other. Abrams just cuts to Kylo Ren scenes whenever he feels like, isntead of using them to establish the Empire, Imperial ships and entourage.
>>71211430
They were officially declared as stormtroopers by Palpatine the very same day.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Declaration_of_a_New_Order
>>71211634
Thanks for the webm.
This scene still looks heaps good since I saw it back in the day. Only thing that looks not so good is the CGI grass BUT otherwise really great special effects.
And no I am not joking.
You sir are just pretending the prequels have the most horrid CGI and effects ever made due to your bias of hatred towards it.
Pic related looks fucking fantastic for 1999!
>>71211513
BASED ARMOND NEVER DISAPPOINTS
>>71211533
>This has got to be the biggest load of bait I've read today.
Then don't take it.
>>71209187
It was a shit film though, with one of the worst Mary Sues imaginable. If this was a fanfic story it wouldn't have passed muster, but slap a Star Wars logo on it and replace Lucas and somehow it's a masterpiece.
>>71211652
>Almost every scene was created using practical effects,
same as the Thing (2011) but Lucas decided to CGI 95% of it sadly
>>71211649
You misunderstand Star Wars, the prequels poisoned your mind.
Star Wars is NOT about backstory and explanations, it's about the adventure at hand.
>>71208688
>how the Empire were able to build a massive Death Star carved into a planet in only 30 years when all the Empire were defeated
I'm sure it's easier when you have droids working 24/7
>>71208621
>>71211701
>It was a shit film though
As a prequel fan: something about TFA really makes me respect it because it feels like they tried to do something but just failed so badly.
>cutting 30 minutes out of the movie
>beginning the movie right in the middle of the new war without any explanation
>the horrid pace and editing
this is what made the movie really weak but all in all it is a fun watch. Nowhere near as intelligent or memorable as the prequel's scenes but still decent.
>>71211652
you're in the minority.
JJ knows filmmaking, miles better than Lucas.
Mission Impossible 3, Star Trek 09, and TFA are fantastic action films that blow the prequels out of the water. It's not even close.
You are a Star Wars fan, not a fan of cinema and filmmaking.
>>71211753
>failed
ok buddy. have fun in your little world you've made for yourself.
>>71211686
Most of what is thought to be "horrid CGI" in Prequels are actually practical effects masked to look futuristic. Google image for "Prequels Practical Effects" and stay in awe.
I'd say it is Lucas's own fault for glossing over the practical effects part in the documentaries (supposedly, TPM alone had more than the entire OT combined) and gushing for the new computer graphics capabilities instead. As a result, the work of many (like Mythbusters' Adam Savage) was glossed over and the "bad CGI" argument was given credibility by the creator himself.
In comparison, while Lucas CGI'd his practical effects too much in hopes of making them look futuristic, we have JJ leaving the practical effects too damn obviously fake. I'm talking about Jaqqu, specifically that creature's big ass and THAT FUCKING TUCAN, who gets a whole close up for the viewer to see just how fake and cheap the toy model is.
>>71211772
>i cant formulate my own opinions and link to rotten tomatoes reviews
KYS
>>71209266
Would she like me if we ever met?
>>71211713
>the prequels poisoned your mind because they let us get to know more of the characters and the background world
How much pleb are you?
The prequels are brilliant story pieces. If you don't like it then don't watch them but I as well as thousands really appreciate them.
You are like one of those Twin Peaks fans who hate Fire Walk With Me because we got to know more about Bob and the supernatural world. But if a director and creator loves his creation so much that he wants to make prequel stories: why is that such a problem?
>>71211809
Ah fuck you, pupper...
>>71211713
>You misunderstand Star Wars
No, you do. The creator knows that Star Wars is about Legacy and Myth. The entire story of the Empire is a historical allegory to the Roman Republic/Empire. Lucas said, times and again, and adventure at hand is not what he wanted to show.
And it was like this from the very start, from Vader's officers discussing the Senate, to Tarkin and Moff briefing us on the government's rule over galaxy. The political was always intended as an integral part of Star Wars, it's too bad you (and JJ Abrams) noticed only the external "adventure ho" part.
>>71211772
You are a fucking idiot mate.
I said the movie failed with trying to do something new. I never said it failed at the box office or on the rotten tomato score.
It surprises me with how many Force Awakens hardcore fans there are anyway. When the movie came out; I remember all of /tv/ hated it.
>>71211634
>componsate for lack of plot
Fucking noob
go complain about """"plots""" and """graphics""" on /v/mdb
pod racing is absolute kinography and you should consider yourself lucky to have ever even witnessed a segment like that in a movie. Do you know what type of mind it takes to come up with that and think its a good idea to take a decent portion of the film? You will NEVER see anything as abstract like that again in one of Disney's fake Star Wars rip-offs let alone any major blockbuster. Instead you'll get comic book ""plots"" and accessible ""good-move-pandering storytelling :)"" up the ass like a good goy
>The Darth Maul fight
>no emotion
confirmed for emotionally disconnected asperger unable to read facial expressions and body language
>>71211835
Exactly.
This is like a Christian who wants to reject the Old Testament and only read the New Testament stories about Jesus because salvation and him is all that matter; despite there being hundreds of prequel stories which show how the world began, the people before Jesus came down to Earth etc.
>>71211844
/thread
>>71211844
>TFA is the most perfect movie and anything prequel related does not exist: the post
>>71211844
>>71211864
samefag or just a really fucked up JJ fanboy.
Guess what: director of Episode 8 is a big fan of the prequels. Get ready for some new shit I hope if Disney allows him.
>>71211724
How Abrams rebuilt A New Hope after 50 years of inspiration and material is even more impressive.
>Hey JJ, Mickey Mouse here, we need you to make a new Star Wars prequel.
>Ok great I have the perfect idea, we'll have a "new" Darth Vader, a "new" Death Star, a "new" Desert Planet of Origin, The Millennium Falcon, a "new" X-Wing, a "new" TIE Fighter, we're gonna rely on old characters and nostalgia, it's going to have a refreshing plot about not-Empire destroying planets with a death star and not-Rebel Alliance destroying the death star by taking advantage of the same flaw the first one had.
George Lucas: "They wanted to do a retro movie. I don't like that. Every movie, I worked very hard to make them different ... I made them completely different—different planets, different spaceships to make it new."
>>71211754
>you're in the minority.
Among the angry Internet nerds?
Because, last time I checked, Prequels were beloved by the majority.
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/708777308262301696
>>71211634
>waving around your special effects budget to componsate for lack of plot.
>The Phantom menace has a lack of plot and the podrace serves nothing
HAHAHAHAHAHA please tell me you are joking?
The more you RLM fanboys keep trying to come up with prequel hatred, the more dumber you are getting
>>71211754
JJ knows how to make summer action movies.
He doesn't know how to make original masterpieces. Something that takes the balls of an artist like George willing to do things that are controversial and risk taking.
>>71208621
Not litteraly because I didn't enjoy it.
>>71211754
>Mission Impossible 3, Star Trek 09, and TFA are fantastic action films that blow the prequels out of the water.
MI:3 is correct hands down the second best Mission Impossible movie.
I didn't mind his Star Trek. Loved his visual effects on Into Darkness.
TFA is the worst edited movie I have seen lately.
>>71211882
This.
Rian Johnson is my last hope for this franchise, and he promised to take us to "places we've never seen before" and experiment with the film, just like George wanted when he said that he's out of ideas for new films and wants other directors to add something new. If the movie disappoints, I'm probably going to ignore the franchise altogether.
>>71211774
The eyes of the Kamino aliens were fucking god like. I remember seeing them as a kid and being entranced by them.
>>71211883
TFA actually made me respect Lucas a bit. Don't get me wrong, the prequels weren't very good either and were primarily about making money, but at least he tried to add some originality to them. TFA was just a copy of the original with a worse cast.
>>71211774
True. Here is a miniature.
>>71211754
>comparing one's peak to the other's decline
JJ has never reached ANH/AmGraffiti level you retard
>>71211935
>Oscar [Nominee] (2016)
>Best Achievement in Film Editing
>>71211950
It would take all day to post them all. Just googling "Prequels Practical Effects" should do the trick.
>>71211849
The Darth Maul fight remains the best light saber fight in all of the Star Wars films. In terms of choreography and in terms of emotion.
Fuck the hipsters. I also don't give a rats ass about how if you slow it down to 2 fps you can see they are not intending to hit eachother. Holy fuck, welcome to how fight scenes are made you dipshits. Tell me more about how if you play Stairway to Heaven backwards, you discovered the secrets of the Illuminati.
>>71211835
This.
makes me fucking laugh these skinnyfat 18-30 year old anime watching aspie TFA fans thinking their opinions are really intelligent and outside of the box when in reality they're all just a bunch of brainwashed & pampered fedoras that think they're "in the know". They think they opinions are the latest edge but the truth is they'll happily jerk off over the latest captain america or sicario or whatever.
>>71212014
pleb with no understanding of emotions and characterization.
>>71211949
>primarily about making money
Lucas had the vision for the prequel trilogy long before he made them but didn't have the technology to bring his world together. Hate the acting, pacing, or plot delivery if you want. I can understand that. But the designs and worlds built were an obvious labor of love.
>>71211963
>Oscar nominee = a win
it doesn't and also JJ won no Oscars at all.
I do think he should have won at least one.
Not to mention Star Wars was the only sci fi movie on the list apart from Ex Machinema
ITT: Autism.
You're filthy little prequels will always be hated and considered shit. That will never change.
Brilliant for a 90's film
>>71211963
>rey stares at luke for 5 minutes while the camera pans out awkwardly.
>>71209187
Holy shit you're literally shaking in anger.
>>71212024
low iq pedestrian mouth breather with no understanding of kinetic energy & aesthetic emotion
>>71212051
Please just leave
>>71212024
Just look at the change in fight intensity on Obi-wans part right after Quii-gon dies. I can feel the butthurt flow through the 4th wall with each swing of his lightsaber.
>>71211252
>>71211422
spotted the nu-nerds get bent faggots man of murder was great history will show how fucking bandwagon you idiots are.
>>71209266
will i get a gf this year
>>71208621
No. Not literally. I know of plenty people who thought it was below average.
>>71212051
>tfw I wrote that
Worth it. Now get out faggot.
>>71212051
>You're filthy little prequels will always be hated and considered shit
yes, by ultra sonic plebs like you
enjoy being on the wrong side of history pal
>>71212051
>taking this seriously
>>71211963
This movie had such shitty editing face. It.
I am not talking about how the action scenes were edited.
They are all a 10/10. What I mean is how they edited the story.
We have no idea who Rey is and therefore we are not following the movie through her POV.
With Bruce Willis in Die Hard we follow his story through his POV, with Lethal Weapon we follow both Glover and Gibson's story through their POV, with Harry Potter we follow Harry's story through his POV.
But with Rey...? We know NOTHING about her backstory, we have no idea why she knows everything about the force all of a sudden.
It just makes no fucking sense at all.
People say that only people who hate female leads are calling her a Mary Sue. Not true at all: They are calling her this because JJ did such a fucking bad job at telling her story.
When watching TFA: we are simply watching a girl on screen who we have no idea what her motive is, why she is so powerful. I have no idea how anyone can call this movie a work of genius.
>>71208949
>explanation
>explanation
>explanation
I'm sorry you were raised on the prequels and think droning exposition is Star Wars.
>>71212212
I am sorry you only grew up with watching the OT and never read any Shakespeare, any mythology nor watched any other movies.
>>71212227
>he actually thinks the prequels are in any way intelligent or comparable to shakespeare or mythology
if ur serious and not baiting, i am laffin
>>71208849
Han Solo was a completely pointless character in Force Awakens, only there to REALLY show everybody that The Force Awakens actually is a Star Wars movie.
Because of course, without Han Solo, Chewbacca, Leia, Luke and numerous callbacks to the "glorious" Original Trilogy, who would know?
But hey, you got EXACTLY the nostalgia pandering shitfest that you wanted with TFA.
Just fucking admit it, you don't want anything new from the franchise, you want more of the same.
>>71212180
For me the problem with Rey is that she made all the other characters pointless in the movie.
>>71212212
I'm sorry you were raised on mass effect & clerks and think jewish pop culture memes is Star Wars
>>71212212
It is. Read all the expanded universe and the video games of star wars.
That is star wars. The OT is just a skeleton of the whole story.
>>71212180
They could have hired a sword fight coreographer or swordsman to teach her how to swing a god dam sword too.
Her swings were fucking pathetic and I'm supposed to believe those sorry flails are supposed to keep Kylo at bay...bull fucking shit.
>>71212246
But they are. Have you payed attention to the story of the prequels?
It is a literal Shakespearan tragedy story where the good guys lose.
>>71212247
>Han Solo was a completely pointless character in Force Awakens
Are you fucking serious? He's integral to the movie you faglord. Yeah I'm sorry the movie triggered you by making a big show of his introduction, but god forbid a beloved character who hasn't been seen on screen for 32 years be given a dramatic entrance
>>71212212
The OT had exposition. It was from a time when not everyone had ADD and could sit and enjoy a film without it redirecting them every 5 minutes to keep their attention.
>>71212266
even sam jackson made fun of their shitty lightsaber moves
>>71212255
>expanded universe
>video games
Luke did I ever tell you about chair? Luke, did I ever tell you about the Glove of Darth Vader, which was actually a super powerful dark side artifact? Luke did I ever tell you about Kyle Katarn, the REAL mary sue of Star Wars? He was a good friend.
>>71212266
Finn was great though. I hope he turns out to be a Jedi.
>>71212303
He shows potential.
...but he's too old.
>>71212286
>It was from a time when not everyone had ADD and could sit and enjoy a film without it redirecting them every 5 minutes to keep their attention.
You don't know shit, faggot. Paul Hirsch, Richard Chew and Marcia Lucas recut Lucas' dreadful first cut because it was a boring piece of shit.
Did you REALLY want them to cut away from the space battle in the beginning of the movie so we could listen to biggs and Luke talk about Imperial collectivization of moisture farms? Who cares if it adds nothing to the movie, it EXPLAINS things and "worldbuilds"!
>>71212266
the OT and TFA had actual fencers as fight choreographers.
Nick Gillard, choreographer of the prequels, was a dance instructor. You don't know shit.
>>71212282
>He's integral to the movie
How so.
He literally did nothing except die.
>but god forbid a beloved character who hasn't been seen on screen for 32 years be given a dramatic entrance
My point exactly.
If the only reason to have Han Solo in your movie is to make the audience gasp "OMG it's Han Solo!" then why have him?
Han Solo doesn't disappear from the original trilogy if he isn't in a new movie, you idiot.
And I'd rather not have an actor who really doesn't want to be there phoning it in, merely because retarded fans who only want a retread of the OT want to see him.
>>71212324
Balance is key. I recall the middle section of Empire Strikes Back being really campy but you gotta world build mein nigga. Otherwise you have a shallow summer flick like TFA.
>>71212339
>He literally did nothing except die.
He is the crux of Kylo Ren's entire character arc you fucking moron. He builds a relationship with Finn and Rey, he introduces them to the larger universe while they in turn make him give a shit again.
and Ford didn't phone it in whatsoever. He wanted Han to die because he felt it would give dramatic weight to the movie. If you want to see Ford phone it in watch Ender's game or Crystal Skull.
>>71212336
Give me the dance instructor anyday vs this shit right here nigger, this shit right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kpHK4YIwY4
>>71212386
That fight isn't great in pure fight choreography, sure, but you gotta keep in mind back then the lightsaber props were cheap pieces of shit that would shatter if they were hit too hard. ESB, RotJ, and TFA manage to have faster paced and more dramatic fight scenes without going into dance battling floaty bullshit
and even so that fight is a lot more memorable than anything in the prequels which are all just sound and fury signifying nothing
>>71212336
>Nick Gillard, choreographer of the prequels, was a dance instructor.
Forward thinking, creative, interesting, new
>fencers
backwards thinking, old, banal, autistic, shit
>>71212382
>and Ford didn't phone it in whatsoever
Top kek, just like Fisher didn't, right?
Just fucking end yourself.
>>71212410
>which are all just sound and fury signifying nothing
cringe
>and even so that fight is a lot more memorable than anything in the prequels
lmao ok kid
>>71211774
>THAT FUCKING TUCAN
"Steelpecker" lol
>>71212452
Keep pretending TFA was bad and the prequels were good so you can tell yourself you're a more substantial and intelligent person because you go against the common opinion, you fucking fedora tipping pissant
I bet you unironically use words like "kino"
>>71208621
l hate niggers.
Just face it: TFA should have been Episode 8. Far too much was left out for JJ to begin with Rey and Finn.
Disney has entirely fucked up.
>>71212419
said no one ever
>>71212212
I'm sorry for you.Not really.
>>71212464
>cringe
Weren't you the guy saying the prequels are shakespearean?
>lmao ok kid
>liking the prequels fights because WHOAH SUPER FAST SWORDS PEW PEW BRZZZZZZZZ SO FAST
>calling someone else a kid
o i am laffin
>>71212410
You have superhuman sage mode ninja men who have been trained since the age of like 5 to be monk ninja assassins in a universe with telekinesis and sound propagating in the vacuum of space and some fancy aerobatic fight style bothers you?
I seem to recall Luke using the back flip or front flip a few times in battle.
>keep in mind back then
Funny this argument never works when discussing the CGI or any criticisms of the prequel films.
The OT lightsaber duels sucked ass. That's all there is to it. TFA duel with Rey flailing was fucking pathetic. RoTS Obi-wan vs Anakin went too far up its own ass (but it had the currrraaaazy action packed WHOOOAAA whats happening shit you people love from TFA). None of these fights were perfect. Some better than others. The OT was way too amateurish and sad like a flaccid wiener. The PT at times was on too many boner pills lasting more than 4 hours. TFA should have found a healthy medium but it failed. Rey looks like she never even swung a bat in her entire life for fucks sake. But gurl power amirite?
>>71212469
I bet you've unironically never even watched kino
get the fuck off my art board, weeaboo
go play some internactive anime novels on your nintendo ds and leave the visual arts to grown men
>>71212469
I haven't said anything about the quality of TFA, or the prequels.
But keep on memeing because you don't have an argument.
>>71212473
Nah you see there doing that but reverse Episode 8 will be the sequel with about half prequel through out it.
>>71211652
Good post
>>71212473
TFA shouldn't have ever happened.
This is the chickens coming home to roost on the nostalgia faggots who hated on anything new from the PT.
>>71209266
Will I ever experience true love?
>>71212473
TFA gave you all the information you needed, you're just an idiot who needs everything delivered to you in droning exposition or it flies over your head.
>>71212542
You mean the Original Trilogy gave us all the information we need, amirite?
>>71212542
Why was the Resistance so small? How did the First Order gain so much power?
>>71212506
I hope so anon I hope so
;_;
>>71212482
No, just cringing at your hamfisted memes
>liking the ot fights because WHOAH SUCH CHARACTERIZATIONS WOW SO SLOW AND COMPEHENSIBLE FOR MY LOW THOUGHT PROCESSING CAPABILITIES WOW HAHA SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE I LOVE HAN SOLO HAHA :)) HAN SHOT FIRST, I'M HIP, I'M COOL, I'M A GEEK BECAUSE I SUBSCRIBE TO POP CULTURE DOCTRINES HAHAA OMG I LOVE LE TRAITOR STORMTROOPER, SUCH AN EPIC BOSS FIGHT JUST LIKE IN MY VIDEO GAMES
>calling your superior a kid
bad form
>>71212563
>Why was the Resistance so small?
It's a privately run organization with only dubious, under the table connections to the Republic. This is only touched on slightly, so it's easy to miss and I don't blame you if it was confusing. There were scenes that elaborated on it more, but they were left on the cutting room floor because they decided (rightly so) that Leia's introduction should have been saved for an emotional reunion with Han and not to just spout exposition for shit that isn't that important to the movie anyway.
>How did the First Order gain so much power
the Imperial war machine wouldn't have disappeared overnight just because they lost the battle of Endor. I'm sure the new EU explains the ins and outs of how it happened but I don't care about star wars books
>>71212542
Why was the Starkiller Base's weapon charge seen throughout the galaxy as if it happened right next to them?
How did Maz Kanata get a hold of Anakin Skywalker's lightsaber that fell into the core of a gas planet?
Why did Unkar Plutt have the Millenium Falcon, and why did Han Solo say that whomever stole it from him, despite Han GIVING the Falcon to Lando in Return of the Jedi?
Why is Luke completely different as a character, deserting his friends in their hour of need?
>>71212633
>This is only touched on slightly
When.
Say what you want about the prequels, but you can't deny it had the single best song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YzjuuflXZI
>>71212640
These are petty, austismal "why didn't the eagles fly the ring to mordor" tier complaints, but I'll bite.
>Why was the Starkiller Base's weapon charge seen throughout the galaxy as if it happened right next to them?
It's a "hyper lightspeed weapon", this is an autistic complaint and you might as well bitch about there being sound in space
>How did Maz Kanata get a hold of Anakin Skywalker's lightsaber that fell into the core of a gas planet?
It didn't fall into the core. Bespin has a base, it doesn't literally float above the clouds. This isn't even important anyway.
>Why did Unkar Plutt have the Millenium Falcon, and why did Han Solo say that whomever stole it from him, despite Han GIVING the Falcon to Lando in Return of the Jedi?
Han returned to the smuggling criminal game and some criminals stole it from him. The exact circumstances aren't relevant. Did you complain that we didn't hear exactly how Han won the Falcon from Lando in the first place? And re; Lando, Han let Lando BORROW it you fucking moron. "She won't get a scratch" implies he had to return it, idiot.
>why did Luke leave
He was looking for the First Jedi Temple so he could find some secret origin of the force or means of defeating Snoke. I doubt he just ran away.
>>71212653
General Hux says something about "The Republic lies to the galaxy while secretly supporting the Resistance" and I think Leia says something about the Republic not giving her enough support when she's talking to Han on the base. I don't remember.
regardless, the politics in the galaxy aren't all that important. The universe exists to serve the characters, not the other way around.
>>71212733
Why is there a need for a resistance? Why doesn't the new Republic which Leia was a part of have it's own army to attack the First Order?
>>71212707
>He was looking for the First Jedi Temple so he could find some secret origin of the force or means of defeating Snoke
And when is this touched upon in the movie?
>It's a "hyper lightspeed weapon"
See above.
>inb4 read the novelization
Fuck off
>>71212657
THIS SO FUCKING MUCH
What the fuck was with John Williams in FTA?? It sounded like he fell asleep during the movie and his music wasn't doing anything.
Only memorable bits were some of the beginning along with Rey's theme
I hate how TFA arguments always resort to "PREQUELS WE'RE GOOD!" and "NO THEY WEREN'T" back and forth which has nothing to do with the quality of TFA. For fucks sakes.
>>71212764
>And when is this touched upon in the movie?
Maybe you should actually watch the fucking movie instead of shitposting? Were you on your phone the whole time?
First Jedi Temple:
REY
Why'd he leave?
HAN
He was training a new generation of
Jedi. One boy, an apprentice turned
against him, destroyed it all. Luke
felt responsible... He walked away
from everything.
FINN
Do you know what happened to him?
HAN
There're a lot of rumors. Stories.
The people who knew him the best
think he went looking for the first
Jedi temple.
hyper lightspeed weapon:
SNAP
They've somehow created a hyper
lightspeed weapon built within the
planet itself.
BRANCE
A laser cannon?
SNAP
We're not sure how to describe a
weapon of this scale.
>>71212761
Republic is a bunch of pussies who doesn't want war with the First Order so they bury their heads in the sand. Leia and Ackbar took the matter into their own hands and formed the Resistance.
before you say "hurr durr that's not realistic" it's EXACTLY what happened right before World War II. Europe bent over backwards to appease Hitler because they didn't want another Great War.
>>71212774
>tfw you were looking forward to TFA for the music alone;_;
>>71212774
he probably stopped giving a fuck since it's disneyfied now
>>71212796
>back and forth which has nothing to do with the quality of TFA
really says a lot about the emptiness of TFA
>>71212774
He probably realizes it's not worth the effort on his part for this phoned in glib facsimile.
>>71212810
So the Republic that beat the Empire doesn't want to beat the Empire.
>>71212774
Can't remember a single bit of the score for TFA. I could always recall the Darth Maul theme or the romance/Padme one
>>71212796
Biggest argument against TFA. It does nothing new. It's just a nostalgia wank fest.
>same x wing basically
>same tie fighter basically
>death star
>darth vader 2.0
>new emperor
>bring back old characters
>main character some mary sue from planet iraq (I mean tatooine...I mean jakku)
>same star destroyers basically
>same empire vs rebels basically
>>71212886
There wasn't a single new score, Anon. Just remixes of some of the old ones.
>>71212863
I think the new EU says something about how the Rebel Alliance decentralized its military because people were afraid they just traded one Empire for a new one. The New Republic only maintains a comparatively small standing army and security is mostly left to local systems.
Again, who cares, Star Wars is not a documentary.
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>>71212810
>a hyper lightspeed weapon
>does this
Lel
Kill yourself.
This literally couldn't happen because "they built a hyper lightspeed weapon".
There's a really shitty explanation for this in the novelization, but it doesn't make this any better a scene.
>>71212900
Sums up the entire movie really.
>>71212911
So are you going to complain about sound in space?
Are you going to complain about the Death Star not having its own gravitational pull and buckling under its own weight?
are you going to complain about the lightsabers being an impossible weapon?
Seriously, how austistic do you have to be to complain that Star Wars doesn't follow real science?
>>71212907
>the new EU says something
Into the trash it goes.
>>71212935
The EU is stupid, I agree, but the movies don't touch on it because that shit doesn't matter. They leave the autistic details to the autistic books for autistic people.
>>71212934
>lightsabers being an impossible weapon
Otherwise you have a point. My issues with the film aren't the details but the decision to just fucking redo the Original Trilogy. Yeah it sort of makes sense but they could have made a plot that makes sense while being original. It actually feels kind of lame as a fan of the OT because they basically were like fuck the closure and what the characters did in the OT, it was all for nothing because everything is the same as if they didn't do anything at all.
>>71212907
>I think the new EU says something
Oh that thing you always made fun of old Star Wars fans for quoting. Classy move anon.
>>71212934
>5 planets, themselves lightyears apart, in a totally different system (that's several hundred if not thousand lightyears away) are seen being destroyed, not as a single dot in the sky but each planet is seen hit by the weapon separately
>comparable to the Death Star and lightsabers
Okay, friend.
>>71212948
>something doesn't make sense, it's an autistic detail
>>71213002
complaining about the fictional space politics not being explained enough is the DEFINITION of an autistic complaint. Star Wars isn't a documentary, faggot.
>>71212991
They're all impossible based on the laws of physics. Why is TFA's breach more egregious than the others?
>>71213072
It's a major plot device in the movie and yet it's utterly nonsensical, that's not autistic to complain about.
God, this whole thread is a bait
>>71209266
will this anon get the zika virus? >>71211155
>>71213072
TFA ignores any sense of scale, and that's what throws it over the line.
Things act like they're way closer than they are in other shots of the flick.
>>71208621
I like TFA because it abolished the EU.
>>71213414
And made even dumber shit in its place
>>71213414
Obviously Disney knew that the Brexit was coming.
>>71212900
>he forget about Rey's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65As1V0vQDM
>>71213438
who cares about star wars at this poiint anyway what the fuck it's like the harry potter of movies
>>71213414
>I like TFA because it abolished the EU.
...bait
>>71213414
don't worry, they're remaking the EU piece by piece so they can add in a quota of trannies and people of color
>>71213438
>>71213450
>>71213452
>>71213475
fuck off racists
>>71212506
>>71212566
I just wish they had the fucking balls to put all the prequel stuff into episode 7.
Instead they had to make sure that Episode 7 was a success before doing new, actually interesting stuff in Episode 8.
That's why we got a fucking carbon copy of ANH.
And because of this safe play by executives, we're going to have the trilogies timeline and pacing fucked up.
>>71213488
>trying to play both sides in the same comment
Pathetic
>>71209266
Will Star Wars finally die?
>>71213567
>Instead they had to make sure that Episode 7 was a success
Like that wasn't going to happen anyway?
> before doing new, actually interesting stuff in Episode 8
That's not going to happen. It'll be ESB 2.0
>>71208748
AoTC was the worst of all of them. I think I actually prefer The Phantom Menace over it.
>>71213488
Go get rammed by some Syrian refugee you cuck.
>>71208702
>>71213722
>>71214006
upvote me, cucks
>>71208748
I don't remember Jawa crawlers in the prequels.
>>71214305
When Anakin was looking for his mother I think. Doing a bit of detective work.
>>71213753
>Like that wasn't going to happen anyway?
I know right? I don't know why they needed to play so safe and pander so much to the OT.
I think they thought because of the general reaction to the prequels that an exact copy of the OT was needed.
>>71214440
>ywn be Obi Won, wanting to cuck your best friend's girlfriend
>>71213993
>AoTC was the worst of all of them
nah it actually is really good storywise if you take out the love scenes.
I love the Obi Won detective work as he's looking for the lost planet - crossed over with Anakin looking for his mother
POETRY
>>71211844
>>71211893
>>71211916
Is that the only meme image you know of, you turbo autist?
>>71208801
>I liked the movie, therefore everyone should like it too.
>>71209266
Should I continue trying to get my ex back?
>>71214956
I keep finding it really fucking boring. Even when shit goes down with the troopers, it still doesn't excite me.
>>71208621
Obvious bait
>>71208949
For what its worth, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you've said.
>>71208621
Uhh, lots of people hated that movie.
>>71209266
Will Episode 8 be shit?
>>71213748
Accurate, Disney will never let it die
>>71215340
100% agreed. The Phantom Menace at least has some entertaining action sequences. Attack of the Clones features all the issues in TPM plus some horrendous early digital cinematography, forgettable action sequences, dated CGI, and an extensive runtime.
>>71208621
It's one of the great films.
>>71211772
>they're the same people
>>71209266
roll for grl
