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>Movie makes 380 million world wide
>sequel is not currently guaranteed according to Duncan Jones
>But it's "on the way, and doing good
> he is "desperate to do Taurens" if given a shot at a sequel.

Other movies have made less and still gotten sequels. Hollywood and its capeshit bias.
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>video game movies
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>>71153946
>Taurens

Taurens weren't in the second war. What is this bullshit? Source source source?!!!!!!!!
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Nobody likes thunder bluff.

What a shit tier city.
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>>71154092
they're obviously going to skip 2
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>>71153946
Still has to release in Japan and some other country I think, plus China will eat it up again this weekend. Probably make ~420 million in the end at BO. Then you have the bluray/DVD sales PPV etc.
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>>71153946
I don't want a sequel if Duncan Jones is making it.
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>>71155817
He's a good filmmaker
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>>71155817
He wasn't in control of the whole movie, he did extensive re-writes and was primarily responsible for the orc stuff.

All the orc stuff was good. Duncan Jones is good. I want to see a sequel
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>>71154500
To be honest, I've always wondered why undercity was so empty all the time.
It had the best and the most clear layout of them all
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>>71155892
Yea, the weakest scenes were the ones with humans in the capital. Cut tgose out and the movie is a solid 6+ or even 7
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>>71156110
>Cut tgose out and the movie is a solid 6+ or even 7
Complete and utter delusion: the post
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>movie was actually successful
so the whole "it needs to make atleast 450 million to breakeven" was just a maymay?
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>>71156185
No. Blizzshills are just choosing to ignore it.
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>>71156136
Well it was a 5/10 for me already.
And really, apart from shit tier editing what iritated me the most were badly made and badly acted "political" scenes. The effect was made stronger by CGI city landscapes and CGI rooms clashing with cheapo costumes
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>>71154500
I think its a nice city for my bank/ah alts.
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Ironforge is objectively the most aesthetic city and this isn't even up for debate.
In fact, all Horde cities are ugly as sin.
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>>71154092
given the situation, they most propbably explain the second war in 5 minutes, and make the sequel about Thrall / Arthas.
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>>71154092
>“If we get the chance to do another one, Taurens would come up – especially in this Spartacus story that we're talking about.” Jones again concedes there are “many restrictions” he has to work within. “But if I can be clever to find a way to get out of the restrictions, or make them work for me, then I'll do that. I'll pitch it to Blizzard and hopefully they'll see the benefits of doing it.”
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>there was one reference to spoke to Jones’ love of 1980s cult horror: the props department made up The Book Of The Dead as an affectionate nod to Evil Dead 2. But it didn't make the cut: “Unfortunately it didn't get the camera time.” Perhaps one for the deleted scenes
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>Jones confirms that should a sequel take place, Thrall would be the lead character, in what he describes as a “Spartacus-style story”.
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DEATHWING WAS IN THE MOVIE

MASTER RUSER CONFIRMED
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>>71154701

>Lothar
>Orgrim
>Gul'Dan

No they won't ALL the characters that survived the first movie are relevant to the 2nd war
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>>71159630
Proofs?
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>>71153946
Nearly all of those profits are Foreign, meaning a much smaller profit.

I guess Legendary being sort of Chinese helps though?
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>>71153946
When they get to Warcraft 3, who would make the best Arthas?

My vote would go to Chris Evans.
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I'm going to see this with my father tonight, is it good?
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>>71159263
Thrall escapes confinement with the help of a tauren then. Not hard to see where he's going
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They're obviously going to do Lord of the Clans and possibly the orc campaign from WC3 next.
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>>71160821
Orgrim would still appear in that movie... Possibly.
They fucked up his characterisation big time in Warcraft. And in Warlords of Draenor might I fucking add.
Thrall wore his armor and wielded his hammer for years - which the players now have - and the capital city of the orcs is named after him.
I don't know why they keep shitting on him
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>>71159405
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WHY WOULD THEY SKIP 2??
Or are they going to make an unholy amalgamation of 2 and 3 and butcher the story?
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>>71153946
cheapskate americunts go fuck yourself, not supporting based blizzard's first movie
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>>71153946
>he thinks CHINESE numbers are legit
Lmao
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>>71161374
Honestly, as much as I love the second war I think it's best they skipped it. They could hardly handle the plot of the first movie which was much simpler. Too much time, too many characters, too many events. They'd fuck it up pretty bad. At least Thrall has a pretty straightforward "spartacus" story.
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>>71159630

Looks like him.

Just like Hellscream was in the movie, based entirely on the fact that there is an orc dude who looks EX A C T L Y like him.
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>>71161015

Someone who looks like an unthreatening oaf but can act heroic.
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>>71156023
This UC was goat
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>orgrimmar (classic)
Kind of ugly, but comfy in its own way - especially at night - laggy as shit though
>orgrimmar (cata)
Much more asethic but lost a little bit of the comfy. Still preferable.
>thunderbluff
GOAT
>undercity
Great concept, music works well, but a pain in the ass to navigate sometimes
>silvermoon
In BC it was pretty impressive, now it seems to have aged worse than the others.
>stormwind
Pretty I guess. Pretty basic
>ironforge
Not quite as cool a concept as undercity, but still pretty great - on the plus side you can actually navigate it. Feels huge too.
>darnassus
Comfy but bretty shit on the whole.
>exodus
Aged much better than silvermoon. Comfy as fuck.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD_zlHDt8P8
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>>71162296
this is a perfect representation of /tv/, you people are literally incapable of enjoying anything in life.

>mortal kombat is fucking GOAT
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>>71162296
you're not getting another view from me you piece of shit!
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>>71153946
isn't it just basically the cutscenes in live action?
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>>71157093
>horde cities are ugly as shit
>alliance races are boring as shit

no wonder there are so many blood elves
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>>71162700
>so many blood elves
a lot of gays and degenerates play?
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>>71153946
all scenes with orcs are going to cost a lot of money. it wasnt hollywood but blizzard who made the film. the 160 mil budget is bullshitl

you have to make the models for cg then animate they didnt do 1/3 of the fil with nothing but cg and have only a 160 mil budget. it was probably 250 mil. with only 377 mil made its not enough

deadpool made like 760 mil from a 60 mil budget. suck on that blizfags. your world is dying because they waste money on impractical effects for every day characters who will have many scenes
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>>71163131
my uncle builds sets for movies, he worked on the set for Warcraft, blizzard didn't have a budget limit for this movie.
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Best scenes are when the orcs are beating shit up. Personal favourite was Durotan fighting Gul'dan
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>>71162018
>Paladin with a giant hammer
>Unthreatening

Nigga whaaaaat?
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>>71162234
>Darnassus
>Exodus
>silvermoon
>Undercity

>Big ass places that are always empty, even by npc standards and are void of all emotion and life

Seriously I forgot the exodus even exists. Dont even remember how to get there lol. Wow should really shift focus on Azeroth for the expansion after legion. That and make the big cities more meaningful
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>>71153946
Ok they fucked up the lore of the first movie but I'll let it slide somewhat. But straight up ignoring the second game? Nope, I'm out. Go fuck yourselves.
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>>71166108
>But straight up ignoring the second game?
If this happens we riot. Duncan won't let this happen, r-right?
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>>71159405
orcs dindun nufin
lets see how well they'll do in this second movie..
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>>71164284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFGJQIW5ZM
best hammer combat i've ever seen in fantasy genre
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>>71165822
They tried that with cata and now they're trying it with legion.
We went from bitching about how the old world was empty and we were tired of queuing in dalarn to bitching that the old world was empty outside of org and stormwind and we were tired of queuing in them.
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>only made $40M domestically

And they say Americans are plebs. It's the rest of the world that's responsible for all these shit movies being made.
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>>71167084
If only the actual game was half as good as this cinematic. Oh well, at least 8 or so years later we finally got a game that does WH:FB justice.
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>>71167212
what do you think would be a good solution?
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>>71153946
He better release an extended cut first of this movie
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>>71167716
Nothing they'd do.
Remove queuing, remove flying faster than 60% (at least in the old world), have more dungeons and raids in the old world - that you actually have to travel to.
I think they're going the right way with the world quests, but it wont be enough. People will still fly over shit, do it and then fuck off back to Dalaran.
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>>71167259
>$40M domestically
Is this the biggest bomb ever for a highly anticipated movie?
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>Other movies have made less and still gotten sequels.
Yea, domestically. The domestic Market is still the easiest to get money out of compared to foreign ones.

Having a meh showing in the domestic can save a movie with a strong foreign box office, but Warcraft wasn't just meh, it's absolutely shit tier domestic box office.
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>>71167854
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow had more hype and did much worse

>$70M budget
>$37M domestically, $20M foreign
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Man this movie was all over the place in quality. Some scenes were really well written and directed and then some were just pure shit. I wish they would have just cut every Garona scene out of the movie.
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>>71168009
I was chatting about that movie other day.

It hasnt aged well altho at the time I really remember enjoying it.
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>>71168163
>garona goes from tragic mullato - but still pretty hardcore - who is a slave of guldan that falls in love with medivh but tragically is forced to assassinate the king who trusts her
>to useless slave who is medivhs daughter that heroically sacrifices her king because sitcom level of misunderstanding will drive future plot elements
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>>71168163
Apparently she and Medivh fug in the lore
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>>71168250
Thats fucking weird.. is showing in heaps of local theatres other parts of world
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>>71159405
Goddam is Jones just a full on cuckold who rides the Metzen train?
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>>71168230
In the Last Guardian, she and Kadghar live with Medivh for a time. A romantic relationship is never really suggested, but because it's from Kadghar's perspective and she is a liaison between Medivh and Gul'dan, sometimes they have secret conversations and there is a lot of mystery.
In a later comic its established that they have a son. Who is half human, quarter orc and quarter draenei. With Medivhs magic powers. And the power of orcish shamanism. And the power of Draenei connection to the light. So he's makes Thrall look like a well written character.
So far he has never been mentioned in game thank fuck and several things potentially contradict his story.
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>>71161960
He was.
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>>71159405
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>movie focussing on Thrall growing up in the fighting pits with muh evil white man Blackmoore
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>>71168435
Wtf this would have been a great story to see on screen.

They should make a Warcraft tv series and incorporate these elements.

Warcraft 1 timeline would be perfect for an entire 10 episode season.
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>>71168572
I've always said that a TV series would have been way better. I'd have settled for a lower budget if it meant a better story.
If you're interested in the books, I'd highly recommend this order
>rise of the horde
>last guardian
>tides of darkness
>beyond the dark portal
>lord of the clans
And that basically leads into WC3.
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>>71153946
Blizzard have the final say(a big fucking NO), and Metzen had way too many fingers in this soup.
I'm 99.9% sure we'll never see another live action from them
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I'm taking a stand. I refuse to see movies at the theater from this day on. I will no longer support a foreign gook economy. Fuck you kikeywood.
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>>71169145
>I will no longer support a foreign gook economy.
How does that work? If anything they're funneling gook gold into their jewish jaws with this shit.
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>>71169010
Why would Blizzard say no?
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>>71169267
Chinese studios that co fund these movies still make a profit. I won't be sending them any though.
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>>71169145
Welcome to the rest of the world supporting your shitty economy.
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>skipping the second war
>skipping Gul'dan stuff

I'm pretty sure duncan knows by now everyone loved Gul'dan and wanted more.
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>>71169325
>Chinese studios that co fund these movies
Oh damn I didn't know about that. It's still a question of whether they take more from the Chinese audience than the Chinese studio takes from them.
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>>71169400
>ever trusting chinks with money

they are worse than Jews
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>>71169310
this movie hurt the brand, and 1 hearthstone expansion makes more money than this trainwreck
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>>71169348
He's talking about the United States, you're thinking of Greece
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>>71169453
I'm totally against giving them a foothold too. Worst thing the West ever did was ship manufacturing to China.
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>>71165822
>>71167212
>>71167716
>>71167819
Simply put all the needed shit in every city. Portals, transmog guys, gear vendors etc. Then people can choose which city they have to idle in.
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>>71169508
No, I'm talking about the U.S.
Everyone spends money on your shitty exports from Hollywood.
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>>71169681
Maybe you should stop being Ameica's cuck
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>>71169879
>says chinas cuck
lol
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>>71169913
Over my dead body friend. That's the difference between us.
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>>71169557
they're trying to drive as many people into as small an area as possible so they don't have to admit wow is, ya know, fucking dead.
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>>71169557
but they already basically have that dont they?
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>>71170066
Then its time for sudoku amigo
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>>71168548

Is that Kargath inbetween Orgrim and Durotan?
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>>71170332
yes
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>>71161236

I'd be pretty butthurt if they retconned Tauren into being in the EK
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>>71170431
Already happened in the comics.

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Trag_Highmountain
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>>71153946
>>71154060
>>71154701
>>71155741
>>71155817
>>71159630
>>71161100
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>>71161496
>>71162296
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>>71166108
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>>71170066
>>71172285

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9To3QSxwAmQ

movie was weak af. decent start, but really does go into Battlefield Earth territory
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>>71161374
I'd rather they make a movie that's actually decent and has a sense of narrative focus rather than a slavish retelling a story I already know from another medium.
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>>71154701
>they're obviously going to skip 2

>skipping 18 years into the future
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>>71154051
>Solid 7

Pretty fair, tbqh. I'd say it's a weaker 7, bordering on 6.5 though.
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whats going to be so special about Taurens?

They're really big and strong?

Grunts literally were knocking around Footmen with ease left and right.
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>>71170431
>>71161236
>>71159263
>>71154092

"Tauren adventurer ends up in the EK, captured and forced to fight as a gladiator along with Thrall."

OR

"An introductory 'Welcome to the world of Warcraft' scene, showing landscapes and peoples of many lands"
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>58% think this was 7 or better

Fuck you guys.
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>>71156185
Something about Legendary being owned by the Chinese.
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>>71159630
Nope, it's "Kul Tiran Ambassador".
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>>71161374
>>71161496
Yeah, I'd rather leave the Second War to be told by montages and spooky references. No single movie would do it justice, it's too large of a conflict.

Though, it would be awful NOT to see the Fall of Stormwind and the Battle of Blackrock Spire.
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>tides of darkness gone
>beyond the dark portal gone
>lord of the clan is gone
>all these novels happening in between these events are gone

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>71174309
>lord of the clan is gone
That's exactly what the movie is going to be about.
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>>71153946
>Hollywood and its capeshit bias.
But Warcraft is basically capeshit too.
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>>71154500
delete this
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>>71173500
Hi Alonso Duralde, what did you think of Dragonball Evolution?
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>>71174382
at least it's not set in some big 20th century american city like most capeshit
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>>71159630
WE ARE SLAVE TO THE WORLD ENGINE
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>>71162234
ironforge is GOAT, exodar is close second. this is coming from someone who plays horde more.
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>>71174382
it's nothing like capeshit...
90% of the "heroes" die, no happy ending, insanely violent
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>>71153946
It's been almost a week since they updated the foregin gross.
So it might actually go up to 400m
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>>71167084
>DID SOMEONE SAY HAMMERS?
kek
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>>71173500
Maybe not have loud as fuck music playing in the background,
and write a scrip.

No-one will value your opinion if you make shitty videos like this
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>>71174482

4/5, a modern classic and the true first of weebkino
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if they're doing a sequel, please for the love of god, fire the fucking marketing team
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This movie just came way too late for US viewers, if it came out in 2008 it would've been in demand and a huge success.
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>>71155741
"And despite jaw-dropping opening numbers in China, it has somewhat collapsed there as well. Yes, it has $205 million-and-counting, but that was a twelve-day total off a $156m five-day debut, which itself contained $91m in the first two days. It (allegedly) took a 65% dive in China on its second weekend, not far off from the 70% drop in North America this weekend. It may have packed in hardcore fans of the source material in the world’s second-biggest movie-going market, but the demand quickly dried up, and general audiences weren’t biting."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/06/21/box-office-warcraft-is-the-batman-v-superman-of-video-game-movies/
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>>71153946
Batman Begins: $370M total. Spawned one of the most successful sequels ever. Warcraft is already passed that. Sequel will most likely come.

Also don't expect Second War for sequel. Duncan has hinted it would be based around Thrall's emancipation. Basically Lord of the Clans.
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>>71163131

Who gives a shit, Blizzard could light a few hundred million on fire and it wouldn't matter. If they want more movies they'll make more movies. I don't think they are too worried. They will squeeze ever last nickel out of Warcraft they can.

I liked the movie too, so I'm okay with that.
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>>71176294
>Batman Begins
>205m domestic box office
>literally five times Warcraft domestic
ok
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>>71176380
And did fuck all internationally. Made $370M total like I said. Warcraft is already passed that. Whether it's domestic or not doesn't matter. We're headed towards a new standard anyway.
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>orcs
>taurens

What the fuck? When are we going to see the only good races (undeads/night elfs/blood elfs)?
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>>71176419
When we get to that part of the story? Undead doesn't happen until Warcraft 3 stuff with the Arthas/Lich King.
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>>71176446
And by undead I mean Sylvanas and the Forsaken.
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>>71176418
>Whether it's domestic or not doesn't matter
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>>71176446

When will we get a badass troll with meme-tier dialogue that fucks everyone up.
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>All this nerd lore
I know the lore of the game is probably great for a small insular group of fans, but that isn't a recipe for major domestic box office success. They should make a sequel, but they should do everything they can to target China - at least they'll probably be in a better place to negotiate a better takes from the box office in China after the first movie's results.
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>>71154500
Taurens are nomads when first introduced.. they eventually settle into Mulgore/Thunder Bluff after they drive the centaurs away.
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>>71156185
Yes
Budget was 150 million
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>>71176472
It doesn't. Legendary is owned by Wanda, who happen to own the biggest theatre chain in China. Which means the bulk of Warcraft's Chinese box-office can be considered profit, which isn't usually the case.
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>>71176627
And marketing is thought to be close to 100.
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>>71153946
If there is a sequel and more, how will they do the undead? Since China helped this movie greatly, won't their policy of banning ghosts and undead shit in media be kind of a hard thing to do in upcoming sequels?
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>>71176694
That policy is long gone.
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>>71176694
more flesh on undeads
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>>71176662
Except that's just Legendary. Universal Studios also co-finances and distributes Legacy's films, and they won't get any of the money that is feeding into Wanda group. If they make a loss based on their co-funding and domestic takes things get complicated.

All that said let's be honest - none of us will ever know all of the details. The movie has a shot at a sequel, that's all we can really say.
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>>71177057
*Legendary's films
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtymmqbEmKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtymmqbEmKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtymmqbEmKw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtymmqbEmKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtymmqbEmKw
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>>71176549
i would be amazing if they just ignored all the video game lore and started fresh
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>>71176472
money is money fag
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>>71154701
That woudn't make sense to suddenly skip and ignore Lothar or Guldan and fast forward to Thrall meeting Taurens
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>>71177299
>implying the will kill off movie lothar to some orc with 5 lines in the whole movie
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>>71153946
as mediocre as it was, i hope there's a sequel. if only to see how bad it will be.
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>>71160953
It actually doesn't because the american branch gets nothing

if a sequel gets made I would literally expect it to be in chinese
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>>71167259
its actually purely the fault of china

if you removed china this movie would have failed to make its budget back INTERNATIONALLY

has china ever saved a movie this hard?

and I don't mean "lol they got a hundred extra million icing on top"

I mean literally salvaged a complete bomb?
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>>71155817
I only want a sequel if DUncan is making it
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>tfw there won't be any Worgens in sequels
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