>Hey, Jon. I got the entire Vale army joining the battle,
>if you just hold the attack for like 30-60 minutes,
>we will have a superior force and thousands of our own doesn't need to die
She got thousands for dead souls on her conscious.
Will Jon hang her next episode for her poor decision making?
Which fight harder, 3000 men outnumbered 2:1 and know they're likely going to die, or 3000 men outnumbered 2:1 who know an army is going to show up at any minute and turn the odds overwhelmingly in their favor?
I'd be surprised if those guys would want to fight at all, just wait for the goddamn cavalry.
she didn't know whetherthe Vale knights were actually coming or whether they would make it in time.
she sent LF a letter but never received a response from him, and the last time the two of them talked she had threatened to kill him. it was entirely possible that he'd tell her to fuck off
>>71042222
>>71042317
The clue here is that she didn't mention it to Jon at all.
>hurr why didn't you ask me for advice
>what advice
>hurr we need more men
STRONK WOMEN
if dany doesn't fuck yara, this season is worse than 2
you mean she got thousands of wildlings killed. That's a good thing.
>>71042598
and now LF not only has the biggest, most rested army in the north, he has the only one
>>71042496
>why don't you ask me for advice!
Why doesn't she just interject? Nobody told her, "No talking in the war cabinet!"
She didn't have the guts to speak up in front of Tormund and Davos because her advice was pointless so she takes her resentment of her cowardice out on Jon.
>>71042129
It wouldn't have mattered. Jon went full retard the moment his brother showed up.
Hod he known about the reinforcement, he would have gone full retard just the same. It's like you think he knows anything.
>>71042129
> jon waits for little finger to arrive
> Ramsay sends 20 good men to burn his camp
> vale arrives
> Ramsay sees he is outnumbered and retreats to winterfell with his army intact, winning the siege
> sansa tells jon but they don't change the plan
refer to >>71042222
Quads related
>>71043079
Idiot. Vale army came the same fucking day. Ramsey's army would still be out in the open.
She knew Rickon was going to die no matter what and she wanted Jon to die in battle so she could completely claim Winterfell for herself.
Also CIA controls the Vale army and decides when they come in. Plus she wasn't 100% sure he was going to come at all.
>>71042496
>worse than 2
Whats wrong with season 2?
>>71043079
>>71042222
Nobody gets their morale raised by believing their defeat is inevitable. Waiting for Vale army to arrive and seeing their numbers would have given Jon's army a HUGE boost in confidence and spurred them to victory. Fighting to your demise is not a game plan.
Jokes on ramsey
He thought pitbulls where dindus and wouldnt harm their master
#killallpitbulls
#MakePitbullsillegal
>>71042129
>thousands of our own
>wildlings
>our own
Sansa will keep the North pure and untainted by the snow white men.
Holy shit Jon Snow??!! Im no military expert, but lone charging an army has to be the WORST decision EVER.
How are the women with no military experience doing better than the men?
>>71042824
>she takes her resentment of her cowardice out on Jon
so many characters died, yet she of all got to survive
like even fucking rickon is a better and more valuable character and I doubt he had more than 2 lines of dialog the entire series
>>71042364
Are you retarded? It was all about "laying a trap" for Ramsay, she knew that if the Vale army had been accounted for tactical genius Ramsay would've outsmarted them. She had to omit their existence in order to have a chance against Ramsay.
Kek, faggot should've taken the chance to fight one on one, didn't he realize he would've won if he had taken his shirt off?
>>71042129
She didn't want Jon to know, because then Jon would play along with Ramsey knowing he's going to win, which would probably change the outcome of the battle. Jon isn't the smartest one.
>>71042129
hi retard you realize that this entire fight started specifically bc jon got emotional over his brother dying and charged head first into battle
even if he had known he was already making the kamikaze dive
get out
>Sansa should have told Jon
>Jon shouldn't have been a fucking retard and run into battle by himself
Why are Starks so fucking stupid?
>>71042667
wow he hes control of some rocky fields and dried forests that will soon become a snowy hellscape with little food in a few months. The Iron throne is almost his!
>>71042364
she is set up as a selfish ruthless bitch who will only deal with her own business. Fuck family lol
>>71043628
They just killed his brother. You wouldn't understand because you're low test. You're pretty much a woman.
>>71043474
Absolutely fucking wrong you dumbfuck idiot loser pussy ass bitch
>>71043521
You mean a mastiff?
>>71043795
The reaction would've been fine but what I didn't like about it was that Sansa specifically told him exactly this would happen hours earlier. Jon should've been able to reflect and known better with the info he had. If anything he was the one who acted like an emotional school girl, not acommander. Tormund even mouthed "don't do it" or something, everybody knew it was obvious bait.
>>71043216
> implying the battle lasted 30 minutes and not Atleast 3 hours you dumbshit
>>71043788
ok, let me rehash
the biggest, freshest, most neutral army in westeros, all thanks to not getting involved in the war
what other army can beat that?
>>71042222
>I'd be surprised if those guys would want to fight at all, just wait for the goddamn cavalry.
As they fucking should.
>>71043788
Littlefinger has the Vale, North and he is Lord Paramount of the Trident
>>71043895
Nothing I guess he is just waiting for the most smug possible moment to teleport it into the red keep.
>>71042129
Jon would need to hang himself then, too, because Sansa warned him that Rickon would die and Ramsay would bait him into doing something stupid and the dummy still fell for it.
>>71043785
>Bran gets caught by the Snow King
>Rickon somehow gets caught by Ramsey, must have been slacking around in the forest outside Winterfell all that time
>Aria thought it woulmd be smart to cross the faceless assassins after spending who knows how long training to become no one
There's no saving them.
>>71042222
yes this is a proven battle strategy, in ancient times often generals would send half their armies to their deaths because "they fight harder"
>>71043474
> forced to fight to the death
> know you'll die because you're outnumbered
> throw down your weapons to save them the trouble
>>71043521
That is the cutest dog ever.
>>71043809
No it's not you knobhead. I don't know in what fucking world you live in where the idea that fighting with a massive disadvantage and a small chance of victory would raise the spirits and willingness of your men to fight rather than having a bigger army would, or even the knowledge that back up is on its way.
Quads poster is a fucking retard, other poster is dumb enough to believe houses would follow a weak and fleeing Ramsey.
>>71043984
>>Rickon somehow gets caught by Ramsey, must have been slacking around in the forest outside Winterfell all that time
Rickon was crashing at the Umbers until they decided to hand him over because Jon brought Wildlings over the wall.
Where was ghost?
>>71044064
>the Umbers
Who the fuck are they?
>>71043939
>implying anyone will ever actually follow littlefinger and he isnt completely dependent on his pawns who will eventually betray him.
>>71044065
Couldn't afford the CG.
>>71044098
He is recognized by the king as lord paramount, if he blazes through the riverlands with the vale army then the riverland houses will pledge to him and he will have his own subjects
>>71043795
>They just killed his brother.
It doesn't matter, he's the commanding leader. What's his army suppose to do if he isn't directing them? What was he going to accomplish charging? Jon was willing to jeopardize ALL his men for his dead brother?
He even knew they were outmatched.
This is some really poor story telling.
>>71044158
Basically made Jon look like a retard so Sansa could shine a little more. Has Linda said anything about this yet?
>>71044158
And even worse than that, after all that shit he let's the dogs do the killing because reasons.
>>71044096
Ned Stark's closest allies and advisors. Basically the epitome of every virtue that the northerners possess. Until they're suddenly not. To be fair, they are strong enemies of all things Wildling from the start.
>>71044130
even if that were true he is still only acting in place of robin, no one is directly loyal to him.
was Rickon the most useless character in the entire show? he literally did nothing for 6 Seasons. NOTHING.
>>71044008
>forced to fight to the death
Like Stannis' men were when they saw Ramsey's army, right? Jon's army was obligated to fight. They were only forced to fight when they were completely surrounded but this whole conversation is about if Jon and his men had known about the Vale army willing to join their forces BEFORE they fought.
>>71044130
blazes through to do what? kill the king? Who is giving him the authority in the riverlands in the first place? Seems kinda contradictory.
If word gets out little finger helped the starks take winterfell he would be branded a traitor before he got back to the riverlands.
But I guess if his plan is to marry sansa and then he saved edmure, and had edmure swear loyalty to him he would have an army half as big as the lannister + tyrell + crownlands.
>>71044284
That's why they killed him off.
>>71042129
Yeah, it was ridiculous. Also, the "cavalry charge saves the day when all seems to be lost" is overdone at this point. Tywin at King's Landing, Stannis behind the wall, and now this...
>>71042129
>if you just hold the attack for like 30-60 minutes
Are you all retarded?
Jon couldn't do that because they were about to kill Rickon.
>implying she didn't want jon and the wildlings to die
Darth Sansa is ebil.
>>71043455
Nothing it was the last good one.
>>71044323
They could've had the Arryns sneak in behind the Boltons, take Winterfell, and fly their banners from the battlements at the critical moment. This would have completely demoralized the Bolton troops, causing them to desert and Ramsey to get apprehended while displaying Littlefinger's advantage over the Starks instead of subjecting the Boltons to divine punishment for their sins and making Littlefinger and Jon jolly comrades on the field of battle.
>>71044361
thats exactly what i thought
>>71044286
Ramsey had 20 good men along his side against Stannis
>>71044215
And the part where Ramsay suggest they fight each other, yet he keeps shooting arrows at him?
If Jon blocked one arrow, why wouldn't he block the other arrows? sigh
>>71044353
What was his plan anyway?
Grab Rickon and get arrowed to the face?
>>71044353
fuck Rickon, even stupid Sansa told him Rickon is kill
>>71044480
The actor was so bad that they only gave him 2 lines in the whole series. BIG SURPRISE THAT HE DIED
The series is obviously political.
Sansa
Danny
Yara
Smirkfu
They are all portrayed as competent and good, and the only ones good enough to rule the 7 kingdoms.
>Men are all dumb trash
>all hail the women
>Clinton for 2016!
>>71044284
And yet the scene leading to his demise was so fucking long. Like you were supposed to care for some reason.
>>71044181
whos linda
>>71043521
Cane Corso
>>71044961
the point was to build up jon's decision to fuck up
>>71042129
If the blackfish made it to winterfell he would've slapped the shit out of Jon for doing something that was so fucking stupid.
>>71044158
>it's an anon doesn't understand emotions episode
>>71042317
>she didn't know whetherthe Vale knights were actually coming
>Literally seen next to LF on the other side of the battlefield
WHAT
>>71045655
>it's an anon doesn't understand emotions episode
kek
emotions are for women and faggots
>All that fanfiction about Rickon gathering a tribe of cannibals who ride unicorns
>nah he was chilling down the road for 2 years
>Varys fucking spies never found him
Was Sansa aware that Reddit dwarf had Neds bones sent back to Winterfell after she asked where is he when Jon said bury him next to our father?
This battle was so dumb
They spend a bunch of money for this shit and fired a lot of actors FOR THIS PIECE OF SHIT
Why did Sansa smile at the end when her brother was just murdered that same day?
>>71045885
You stupid? He is Ramsay.
>>71045826
Guess that's why your image is so edgy
>>71045826
>brotherly love is for womyn and faggots
Turbo Autists >>>/r9k/
>>71044158
>>71044215
How does anyone enjoy television with this degree of autism?
>>71046007
Jonn had Ramsay taken away literally a few minutes ago after beating him up in front of Sansa though
>>71046062
And the immediate scene after her asking about where he is is her confronting Ramsay. Why would she ask for where Ned's remains are just to cut to that? She wasn't the one to bury Rickon.
>>71046046
I know right? You'd think they'd be able to enjoy autistic writing.
>>71042129
if they had waited for the kniggits of the vale to show up then ramsey would've seen them fucked off back inside winterfell
Brought some friends in with my plane from the Vale guys
>>71046224
Why does he talk like a fucking vampire?
Pretty sad that this episode went exactly like some anons here already predicted.
>>71042222
wow, are you mentally retarded? you are an even worse commander than rob and jon combined.
>>71043521
isn't it technically 8 days since they stopped being fed?
>>71042129
But it won them the fight which is what really matters you goddamn faggot. The Starks need more sociopath like Sansa in their ranks.
>>71043521
>Having dogs around that tasted human flesh
Ramsey had it coming
You know they should have flayed Ramsey Bolton instead of letting him get eaten by dogs
Did nobody notice the fact that Jon's army just stood and watched the Boltons surround them and did fucking nothing. That is almost as retarded and Sansa.
>>71047519
Also why the fuck would they let Wun Wun be on the front lines? Did nobody realise how useful it could be to hold him back until the armies engaged then send him into the Bolton flank?
Jon Snow is a terrible commander, he got baited like a retard and caused most of his force to die, Davos being a moralfag and not just sending the hail of arrows which would kill off enemy and their own forces which lead to them getting surrounded.
Also none of these retards fired a fucking arrow at Ramsay while he was out in the open.
>>71047552
If your men see you firing arrows into your own men then they wont fucking fight for you. Ramsay doing so was the third most retarded thing this episode.
>>71042129
As an expert on tactical matters this episode is complete bullshit
Charging onto superior numerical forces no without at least flanking manoeuvres is suicide John
Allowing to get yourself surrounded while being fired upon is beyond retarded John
Ceasing fire when upon the battlefield when only their troops are left is retardation itself Ramsey
Going into melee with your archers instead of firing at them at their backs with their fixed phalanx is retarded as well Sir Davos
Knowing full well that reinforcements will come and not informing your commander causing a huge amount of death is a smart move to cleanse the wildlings Sansa
Cavalry can smash infantry aside, but the same horse cant go on like that unless it is a cataphract running over children, good job Mr Physics
Sending all your troops into battle and standing alone yourself is idiotic, every able commander has a retinue bodyguard of at least 50 picked men
Still glad the Starks won, though John is a Sand and it still has to be uncovered
>>71047617
>. Ramsay doing so was the third most retarded thing this episode.
not really. ramsay just saw them as expendable. he controls people through fear anyway. dont you know anything?
>>71048005
while i cant say youre wrong there have been other movies making the same if not more sins with less bitter judgement by its audience (sometimes they even win oscars like braveheart)
what i actually found mindblowing tho is that they could have kept their naive approach to paint a desperate combat situation with the same outcome while not having everything pointing at "sansa having her stronk womyn in control saving the day and having revenge moment" by simply making it clear that without the vale surprise their army would have been forced into a siege situation.
Why didn't Jon just ride back to his army after Rickon was kill?
How do you think Rickon plays out in the books? He's off on Skagos, or whatever its called, right?
Doubt the Boltons would get him there. Maybe cannibals eat him.
>>71048005
playing Total War in the last couple of weeks really made me hate this episode.
If you're outnumbered like that you definitely lose in a charge no matter what. They willingly charged into certain defeat which makes absolutely no sense, Jon isn't a commander that inspires absolute obedience. I don't get how half the army ran away from Stannis but for Jon they just like to pretend that the same shit doesn't happen...for reasons.
>>71048425
I think Rickon and Dickon will be the gay emperors.
>hey I asked the guy who betrayed our father to ask us for help
Just why not give a weapon to the giant so he can usefull.
>>71047519
>>71047550
Jon ordered them to fight as retarded as possible so Sansa, being a female woman, with a vagina, sympathetic to blacks and faggots and friend to the Jew, could save the day.
>>71043795
And if he suicides himself and kill his men in the process how that helps his brother? I know it crates drama for the show but is it really neccesary? I mean after that scene you can call Jon whatever you want excepet skillful commander, because he spit on his character development and genius organisation of castle black defense with that stupid shit!
>Shit writing
>>71042222
20 good men fight harder
>>71043695
>didn't he realize he would've won if he had taken his shirt off?
underrated
>>71048889
Man, I'm gonna miss Ramsay.
How fucking terrible was Emilia Clarkes acting this episode? It's like shes not even trying
Also how does she manage to get fatter every episode?
>>71047550
There is no warhammer in Westeros, nerd.
>>71049018
>Also how does she manage to get fatter every episode?
stop this meme
>>71043869
Let's be real though, he basically tells Sansa he knows he's fucked in the tent scene. They don't have enough of an army to beat Ramsay in the field unless a miracle happens and they can't besiege Winterfell.
I think he was hoping getting Rickon back would be enough of a morale boost for the Northerners, and maybe by having a legitimate Stark heir he could rally the rest of the North and get the Boltons that way.
When Rickon dies he knows he's fucked. There's no miracle coming, there's no way to win the battle, there's no way to beat the Boltons, so fuck this shit may as well go out like a badass. And fast.
Ramsay's gonna win either way.
>>71042129
Hundreds of knights somehow get by moat Cailin and ride to winterfell at the exact time they are needed without anyone sending a message to Ramsey when they travel the distance equivalent to riding from spain to paris in the winter. Double snow plot armour fuuuuuu.
>Dead little brother carried past
>Yawn, hey where's Ramsay?
>>71047550
they didnt even bother to give him a weapon so i guess not
>>71049000
I was more sad when Ramsay died than Rickon.
How did that work, logistically?
>Sansa sends a raven to little finger saying that they need the Vale.
>They reply and say that they're down to assist and no one notices that Sansa is getting Ravens from the Vale.
>Little finger and a massive army somehow march from the Vale with no one noticing and letting Ramsey know.
>Somehow Sansa knows where the battle will take place and somehow tells them where to set up camp so they can get to the battle.
>The army sets up camp close enough to ride in in the nick of time, and somehow none of Ramsey's hundreds of scouts or thousands of citizens notice.
>The battle starts and Sansa rides off to meet them with no one from the nights watch noticing or following despite the fact that Jon had guards protecting her.
>Ramsay sends over the spearmen, the last of his army, but Little Finger and Sansa wait until basically everyone on their own side is dead rather than ride in when the spearmen are walking the huge distance to the battle area.
>Winterfell, the seat of the north and a house that's supposed to repel seiges for years, has a single wooden door that's about as thick as a few wooden 2x4s nailed together and Wan wan makes quick work of it.
>Ramsey shoots Wan wan in the eye instead of shooting Jon who's standing around like a retard
FANTASTIC WRITING D&D! YOU DID IT AGAIN!
>>71042129
This bugged me so fucking much. They all could have died and Sansa didn't say ANYTHING. ANYTHING AT ALL. AND THEN THEY ALL SMIRK ALL THE TIME.
>OUR FATHERS WERE EVIL BUT WE WELL BE BETTER
>SMIRK SMIRK SMIRK
FUCK. I'M OUT. FUCK THIS SHOW. FUCKING CUNTS
>Rickon in danger
>Sansa basically told Jon that their brother is a lost cause
>Jon still tries to save him and goes berserk after Rickon dies
Women will never understand.
>>71042317
If that's the case, than the writing is even worse. How could she know to ride out and meet with little finger? How did Little Finger know where the battle was going to take place and how could she have told them where she was? How did not a single Bolton citizen or scout see the massive army taking a weeks long trip from the Vale which would require multiple stops?
>>71049084
mate she looked like miss piggy riding that dragon
>>71044158
It's actually good, compelling storytelling.
>>71042222
Hey one guy against a whole army will fight the hardest a man possibly canOr maybe 20 men
>>71049669
But everything is set for them to fail miserably.
>>71047435
At first i thought the point of this was to show difference in recoil, and i assume it was interesting that the rifle caused so much more, but then it's clear that when he pulls the trigger on the rifle he pushes the rifle as well.
What is the point of this webm?
>>71050074
No, I've spent too much time on this shitty show already. The writing is fan fiction tier at this point. I don't give a fuck if Dany is eaten and raped by dogs. Every second on her is a waste of fucking time. Even tyrion is boring now. There's not a single interesting character left.
>>71044284
Shaggydog. Look it up.
I liked the episode apart from the beginning with muh slavery.
Only thing that disappointed me was that Ramsay didn't get flayed.
The battle itself was really good, I think I've never seen a movie that shows how much of a mess a cavalry charge becomes
I liked the bit where the giant was dying and jon went to comfort it and Ramsey shot an arrow through the giant's eye confirming it's death rather than killing the unsuspecting jon snow
>>71050186
See you next season faggot
>>71050321
as a Medieval historyboo I was also pretty happy at the portrayal of the battle. About as close as we're going to get to an accurate one
>>71050342
Oh, God. The episode gets dumber and dumber the more you think about it.
>>71050342
oh fuck
>>71050413
>cav charging cav head on
>no formation or tactics
>corpse pile
>romans out of nowhere
>>71044158
>This is some really poor story telling.
I concur. Emotion my ass. See Blackfish.
>>71045770
She joined up with him when he arrived where Snow was camped.
>>71042129
Pretty sure Ramsey arrowed his own men into a mound of dead corpses.
>>71050413
Kill your cav with arrows after a head on charge versus when you have infantry in reserve. Just like the medieval arrow right......
>>71049939
>How did Little Finger know where the battle was going to take place and how could she have told them where she was?
Because the battle was right outside the front gates of Winterfell, which literally everyone knew Jon Snow was going to try to take back
Now if you had said how did he know WHEN it was going to take place, that would've been appropriate
Sansa: WHY HAVEN'T YOU ASKED ME FOR ADVICE?
Jon: Okay, what should we do?
Sansa: LOL WHAT? I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS SHIT, JUST WATCH OUT FOR RAMSAY
>>71049939
She didn't ride out to meet him. He met her where they were camped.
She told him where they were going to camp in the letter he sent. And OMG... imagine that... they had a battle for winterfell outside the castle.
Most of the troops loyal to Bolton were at winterfell. The rest were just following him out of fear. They see an army of Vale soldiers and dont say anything because theyre not at war with the boltons so might be going to treaty/help or they hope the boltons will lose.
>>71043474
you dont know shit kiddo
http://www.youbrandinc.com/personal-development/its-time-to-create-your-death-ground/
eat shit you fucking retard redditor
>>71050628
She told him not to do what ramsey wants him to do, which is the exact opposite of what he did.
She didnt tell him about lf because she didnt know if hed show up and snow doesnt like lf because hes who game her to ramsey.
>>71050413
are u American historyboo or just bad historyboo?
>>71049939
>>71049939
>How did Little Finger know where the battle was going to take place
good god all these fucking redditors need to leave
IT WAS ON THE FRONT FUCKING LAWN OF WINTERFELL YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
>>71050628
that was literally the cringiest conversation in GoT yet
>>71043695
>he would've won
Jon literally has plot armor
>>71050829
>snow doesnt like lf
She could've mentioned Lil Arryn instead.
Ramsay dindu nuffin
I still think John Snow is the chosen one of this show.
He has Targaryen blood within him which will enable him to control a dragon, he will also lead Westeros with supreme victory against the white walkers and he will sit on the Iron Throne at the end of the series.
>>71050126
He doesn't push it, and it's not so interesting, the second device is actually called a recoilless rifle. See how the flash comes out the back?
>>71050342
>giant bursts through doors
>archers on the balcony above and the ground around load him with arrows
>like 5 soldiers follow in behind
>jon snow enters as the giant is collapsing, suddenly all the archers are no longer shooting them (did they died?)
>implied moment of sadness as jon goes to comfort dying giant
>OH WAIT
>one archer, ramsey bolton, has chosen this moment to reveal that for some reason no one's decided to try and kill/maim him yet
>decides to use his surprise attack to kill the giant that's literally already dying just to reconfirm to us that he's the bad guy
>because causing the viewer slight emotional distress in an otherwise touching moment is way more important than killing the leader of the opposition army and the one challenging your claim to king of the north
>D&D
>>71049647
idiot, the last time littlefinger talked to Salsa he specifically mentions the Arryn army waiting at Moat Cailin, like 3 days ride to Winterfell, maybe if u payed attention autismo you would know that.
>>71044855
Preach
>>71044446
The point is to show Ramsey is a coward who refuses to fight up close and personal.
>>71051335
>Moat Cailin, like 3 days ride to Winterfell
But it isn't
ARE YOU ALL FUCKING RETARDED?
>show up to battle with the knights of the vale
>Ramsay stays inside Winterfell, which is canonically basically invincible
or
>wait for Ramsay's forces to commit
>crush them
jesus christ you all are dumb
>>71051309
It was more than 5. As they entered they showed them killing the bolton archers.
Its still stupid they had ramsay just standing in the middle though. He shouldve shot the giant from behind cover, but they needed a plausible way for snew to manage to get to him.
>>71051503
>that pic
why are women so mean? Is it revenge for all the imagined oppression men did to them 100 years ago?
>>71043521
that is not a pitbull you dumb fuck, looks much more like a cane corso
>>71045993
she knew he was dead before the battle, she had already come to terms with this.
>>71048347
The music was so epic that he couldnt do something that lame.
>>71051503
You can stop saying retard every minute. If Sansa had brought it up they could have fucking planned for it and fuck him up the ass and force them to open the gates. Plus, they have a giant. They don't need a siege if they have the giant.
>>71051503
>that pic
Holy shit brutal.
>>71051784
>mfw this was probably the real reason
>>71046046
i was expecting him to get really pissed and go back to the line remembering that sansa said don't play his games.
>hurr part of the battle plan durr ramsay would hide in winterfell
Even if it was part of the plan, she had no reason to keep it a secret to jon especially after she sent the letter
>>71042129
i really REALLY REALLY REALLY hope that it doesn't play out this way in the book.
holy fuck it was stupid. Stupid as fuck. Like... i dont even know where to begin...
>>71042129
If Ramsey saw them coming he would retreat back to WInterfell, even if he lost half of his men due to enemy pursuit he would still be able to hold the castle for a year or more.
>>71044323
>stannis gets defeated by tywin
>stannis then uses the same tactic against the wildinglings
>the wildlings then use the same tactic against the boltons
it's like poetry
You really give this show too much credit. It was just a cliche ending, that's it.
It wasn't a "muh masterplan" shit, they're not that smart and it's obvious that people who care are in the minority. I can already see this show becoming The walking dead 2.0.
>>71052166
Well for one thing, Stannis is still fucking alive in the book with a bigass army.
>>71051856
>that pic
>girls can be gamers too
>>71044425
t.Berserk pro
>>71052232
Well he was being a bitch for bringing up cancer on memebook for compassion cookies in the first place.
So I was expecting the umbers to just basically backstab ramsey.
See, that would have been a better "happy ending" than this CIA came to rescue bullshit.
>>71048202
Ok, but why the fuck does smalljon go out there. Ramsey's entire force sans two others goes out there, including the archers (where did they go? Did they pick up shields and join the phalanx?) there is no reason why at least one of his people wouldn't say fuck it and bail, or fire an arrow his way because archer has a buddy in the cavalry. They were literally cannon fodder, which I get is what Ramsey wants, but why would all of his army, including commanders, willingly accept that role?
>>71051475
Except when battling the ironborns best while shirtless
>>71052290
Very true. Thats all social media is now anyway: compassion cookie farming
>again with the pic
Please tell me this is fake. It hurts
>>71042129
>implying she knew
She sent out a raven. For security reasons, CIA probably didn't reply. He probably just showed up and surprised her.
>>71043956
I thought it was Littlefinger leading the charge for a second
GoT was loved because it was NOT the conventional bullshit unbelievable generic actionmovie which always has a happy ending. It was loved because it was smart and pretty much realistic (except for dragons and magic and shit), like, people would probably act like they would've done irl. People had motives which were believable and characters had several layers to them.
This fucking season, the one season that was written before the books, has turned into a fucking feelgood super awful under the average non-epic piece of shit series. Characters who once were great has been degraded to "he killed someone i loved, now i'm mad and i wont think about anything twice".
For fuck sake. GoT could've become something... it really could've.. now it's fucked..
>repeatedly stress how important Starks, that the North will follow them and that is why Ramsay needs Rickon and Sansa
>Ramsay murders Rickon in the most psychotic way in front of his entire army, who know his sister Sansa is watching
>continues to kill all of his own cavalry by firing volley after volley into his own men to kill a fraction of Jon's
>no-one in his entire force bats an eye and follows him to the bitter end, including the Umbers
>this on top of the characterization that the Northmen are different, are loyal, that the North Remembers, that the show/book spent years building up
>meanwhile Stannis burns 1 diseased abomination and his most of his force deserts him in the night
The best part is Jon's entire strategy, before he charged mindlessly into a superior force, revolved around Ramsay's men, most of whom aren't even Bolton men, turning.
>>71052171
That's something Roose would have done, Ramsay isn't even close to as reasonable.
Guys would have just stayed behind the wall if they had known the Vale was going to help.
It was the most life-efficient way to beat them.
>>71052303
I was expecting at least someone to turn against him any minute as soon as Ramsey started shooting arrow after arrow at his own men when Davos told his archers to stand down.
>>71052402
It's not , I had a bunch of those. Normies can be more cringe than us famalamb.
>>71044065
>>71044102
This pisses me off the most.
Ghost is always with jon during fights. Hes the last one. And hes back at winterfell.
Bullshit.
>>71052608
post...more? I want to see more and I dont
>>71052556
pertty much this...
And that "form a shield wall around them" thing... oh lawdy..
>oh, a large force of people are casually surrounding us
>let's just let them instead of, i dunno, do something about it.
They were pretty much 1:1 ratio at that point, Jon could've won the battle tehre if he didn't just stand and let them surround him.
I must confess, the whole battle was so fuckign dumb and annoying that i skipped through most of it. Felt like i was watching some poorly written action movie with borrowed characters
>>71052619
Nymeria is still alive, probably
>>71051638
You think "all women are whores" is just a meme?
>>71046743
Underrated toast
>>71043809
>>71044039
he was clearly fucking with you lmao
>>71052556
>>repeatedly stress how important Starks, that the North will follow them and that is why Ramsay needs Rickon and Sansa
>>Ramsay murders Rickon
Rickon is the rightful heir to Winterfell. As long as he is alive, the Northerners would challenge Ramsey's claim of being warden of the north. That's why he killed him.
Sansa on the other hand is a woman, so Ramsey can make little babies with her who are then a mix of Stark and Bolton, meaning they are rightful heirs to Winterfell but also Boltons.
What part of that didn't you understand, you fucking retard? Sansa even said that Ramsey is going to kill Rickon because he is "Ramsey's biggest threat"
>>71052689
>have a giant
>don't fashion him a giant club or something
>maybe just give him a smallish tree
>he fist fights a Phalanx and dies like a retard
ok
>>71052858
>Rickon is the rightful heir to Winterfell. As long as he is alive, the Northerners would challenge Ramsey's claim of being warden of the north.
>kill the rightful heir in front of the same Northmen who would care about his claim, doesn't matter
>care about Ramsay's offspring b/c they are from the family of said rightful heir
m8 r u retarded ?!
>>71046761
Not a very difficult prediction.
>>71044855
Really? And that's also the reason all the battles are fought by men? Is that also the reason Cercei is gonna burn down King's Landing to the ground in the next episode?
What about Tyrion telling Daenerys not to drown in her own self-righteousness? Is that also feminist propaganda?
>>71050413
>>71050507
>>71050590
He's talking about the realism of the action itself. People make mistakes. Killing your own cavalry part was to characterize Rmasy on his willingness to sacrifice his own men and to show his love of bloodshed. The lone Jon Snow charge was to characterize how much of Stark he is. Starks always let honor and emotions get in the way of what they're supposed to do.
>>71052858
...the same reason he is a threat to Ramsay is the same reason he needs Sansa. He kills Rickon consequence free but still needs Sansa. It doesn't make sense. Either the northerners care or don't care about the Starks.
so to sum up this season so far:
>Arya becomes lvl 110 rogue with superpowers and the faceless men (who she betrayed) are like "ye okay, no probs, u go and do u buddy" after she was a stupid little cunt
>Bran becoems lvl 110 druid/hunter with psycic powers and gets ex machina'd by Benjin stark after being a stupid little cunt
>sansa "saves the day" and becomes the queen of the north(?) because she's being a stupid little cunt who don't tell anyone that about 3k horsemen will magically appear (with NO SCOUTS KNOWING ABOUT IT??)
>jon wins a battle which he initiates by being a stupid little cunt and charging 1v1000. Gets saved from about 1336 arrows because of plotarmor when everyone around him falls
>daeneris win her battles and gets a fleet no probs cuz plot
>WINTER HAS TAKEN LIKE... 2-3 YEARS TO MOVE ABOUT 100 MILES. It's not even reached the wall. wtf.
>Jamie strutts around winning everything he touches
So everyone is getting a happy ending i suppose. How fucking shitty. I thought got was different
so how was last night's episode?
>>71052871
>s-s-stop poking me guys...
>hey.. no stoooop..
>get those spears out of my face, stop poking me
>>71043695
>She had to omit their existence in order to have a chance against Ramsay.
obviously this
but ofc subtle things like that fly over anon's heads each episode
>>71053073
Battle was god-tier
Everything else was average to shit
Girl power as always
>>71053055
Arya is dead, ya daft cunt.
>>71046039
allowing yourself to be ruled by your emotions is a pretty feminine trait desu
I'm just glad both Davos and Tormund made it
>tfw your show tries to carry on after you run out of material from the novels
they've ruined it, pack your bags, it's over, we're leaving
>>71053134
>Girl power as always
stil no femdom I suppose, fucking hell they shouldn't stick to muh PC girl power and go balls out with a scene of sansa buttfucking ramsay with a spear or something
>>71053176
riiiiight, like Jon & Stannis...
>>71053176
what now?
>>71053134
The battle was possibly the least GoT thing in the whole show so far.
Quite a spectacle. But stupid. This episode was terrible imo
>>71053055
>WINTER HAS TAKEN LIKE... 2-3 YEARS TO MOVE ABOUT 100 MILES. It's not even reached the wall. wtf.
they're too busy to hunt Bran
Thanks Bran i guess
>Rickon gets hit by 1 single arrow and dies almost instantly
>Arya gets slashed and stabbed several times and shruggs it off like it's nothing
Women ftw
>>71053280
>least GoT thing in the show
What did he mean by this
>>71043695
Are you the retarded one here?
She didn't have to tell Ramsey anything. They still could have surprised them. Even if they had to siege, or rather storm Winterfell, they not only would have had the men to do so, they would have entered easily because of Wun-Wun.
Sansa has thousands of northern lives on her conscience and that's that.
>>71042129
>Stronk womyn rule King's Landing
>Stronk womyn rule Dorne
>Stronk womyn basically rule all of Slaver's Bay
>Stronk womyn rule The North
>Stronk womyn will rule The Iron Islands
DOWN WITH THE EVIL PATRIARCHY!
>>71049045
nigga wun wun is a T9 inv 3+ avatar of destruction, even tabletop nerds know what to do with him, jon is supposed to be some great commander
>>71053243
>>71053222
That was the waif, the faceless cunt.
She killed Arya, cut off her own face to show she's no one, and put on Arya's face. It was her graduation ceremony.
>>71053187
Of course they did, they are sufficiently emasculated nu males who have been deemed acceptable for the show's demographic.
>>71053314
>Waif stays in a dark room with a deformed pigmy
>dies
>Arya gets stabbed mutilple times in the stomach and catapults herself into sewage waters
>survives
BRAVO D&D
>>71043216
yea u fucking moron
>>71052871
I honestly did not fucking understand this, why didn't they give Wun-Wun a giant fucking shield or something? He was their best weapon and they let him go into a battle empty handed? Sansa is a dumb bitch, giants are ultra rare shiny Pokemon tier and she lets the only one they have die because....I don't even know why she did it. Her army is so much worse without one.
>>71053326
They're no longer following the books, it's just mediocre fantasy bullshit now
>>71043895
The Reach, Westerlands and Dorne still have armies
>>71053398
See
>>71053357
It is a ruse.
>>71053357
But she was already an accomplished faceless "man", why would the faceless men be all like "you are now a part of our club, gj brah"? Even if it's just for the showfags.
And the faceless men has no interest in infiltrating the starks, they don't work like that
>>71053448
LF is paying them to kill Jon
>>71053344
Pretty sure that Jon has saved up all of his ingame money to buy Wun Wun from the auction house, while Dany got her sugar daddy's credit card for that sweet imba p2w mount.
>>71042496
The thing I disliked the most was that Daenerys talked shit about Tywin
>hurr, all our fathers were terrible
Tywin brought 20 years of prosperity and kept Dany's retard of a father in check for as long as he could
Although Tyrion might be the cause of that Dany thinks that every horrible she heard about Tywin is true
>>71052871
If he had jump on them it would have solve the problem
>>71053488
and he of course paid them to kill Arya, iirc he doesn't know of Bran
>>71053488
>implying the faceless men would've gone through all that work in order to kill jon snow, who they easily could kill with an assassin
if this was true then they would just have killed arya first thing, not fucking trained her for a year or so
>>71053333
>tfw GoT is just moronic liberal propaganda that has, up to now, managed to conceal itself
can't believe I wasted so much time on this show, but now I'm obligated to finish it
gimme the smuggiest sansa you got there
>>71053540
Maybe he didn't know about her before she turned to the temple, it's retarded but it could be possible
>>71043628
>Im no military expert
Are you a tv show expert then? We are watching a tv show, not a fucking live battle.
>>71043795
this
Ramsay is the superior shitposter and Jon fell for /v/-tier bait
>>71047435
would have liked to see his eyeballs spooned out, his dick cut off and have him skinned alive and let the dogs do the rest
good actor though
>>71053540
All the same god. Jon has his purpose, they have no interest in killing him. It's also still bullshit that the faceless men kill for money, just a test for Arya.
>>71043521
What a cutie
>>71048753
back to /pol/, anon
>>71044158
>This is some really poor story telling
Pretty much sums up season 5 and 6
>>71042129
Now that she got rid of Rickon does she have a bigger claim for Winterfall than Jon since he is considered a bastard?
>>71043521
i loev how they made them into cgi but didn't have money to animate ghost
I wanted the show to end with Ramsey bent over a barrel and OneOne dropping his pants
>>71044961
I actually cheered when he got arrowed
>>71050628
I'd like to jizz a load all over that face. Just one.
>>71053653
to imply that sansa somehow became a kinslaying powerhungry bitch is just so far away from her character... i really hope this isn't true
