Was 24 really torture propaganda or is it a lie created by SJWs?
>>71022634
Most of the time torture doesn't work on 24
Both
The 24 = torture apologists meme is exaggerated, it's not usually portrayed in a positive light.
>>71023990
>torture is effective
This is a positive light.
Bit of both. The show over relies on Jack torturing suspects for shock value and as a cheap narrative device to move the formulaic plot forward, but it also constantly shows Jack going rogue and borderline often saves lives despite breaking all kinds of rules, orders and protocols, whatever Jack does is always the righteous decision and it's shown in a fun and sexy way. Jack is a fucking mary sue. However despite the FOX NEWS ads within the show, the show also often has leftist viewpoints and propaganda, which SJW should be happy about, let's not forget Palmer was Obama before Obama.
Jack is literally never wrong and I love it.
>>71024550
>"Jack is a fucking mary sue"
>a miserable human being aside from being extremely good at his job
>constantly fails to protect someone or gets kidnapped and hurt
>usually wins in the end but at immense cost
>kind of a dick with psychopathic tendencies
Jack is not a Mary Sue.
Who else wanted to justgive Jack a hug and let him cry on your shoulderafter the end of season 3
>>71025313
So much.
>tfw he had literally no one to talk to
>>71022634
>Nearly every mastermind in the show is a corporate white guy.
>Lefties still think it's right-wing.
>>71025949
>Chinese
>White
>>71025751
what about kim?
>>71026223
Kim probably nursed her boyfriend and found some bullshit reason to hate her dad again.
>>71024713
This, why is he so perfect?
>>71024108
not if it's effective only 10% of the time
THEY'RE SHOOTING AT US
>>71028058
>it's a Jack goes rogue and asks Chloe to hack the CTU servers and no one believes him because the new CTU recruit who's actually a mole working for the terrorist boss has been erasing evidence and Jack shoots a suspect in the knee to find out where the bomb is and the terrorist boss was actually just a patsy used by the real mastermind who gets shot at exactly the 59th minute before Jack can interrogate him DAMMIT episode
>>71029971
literally 24: the post
It's weird that people make fun of how repetitive these things are but still love the show.
The one time Jack showed a terorrist family was going to get killed if he didn't tell him what he wanted is based off some American contractor working in Argentina back in the 70s. I forgot the guys name but look it up. A lot of of the torture they showed is based off some guy in the CIA or military.
Is the Kief related to Michael Keaton at all? They look like they could be brothers
>>71029971
You forgot the sexy promotion ready woman who hates Chloe and is suspicious for non-mole related reasons.
>>71022634
24 is show literally written by leftists that is wearing the mask of being "torture propaganda."
There's literally a subplot in the second season where CTU investigates a sand nigger, the sand nigger complains about being racially profiled and the twist is that the terrorist turns out to be his white fiance.
>>71022634
>anyone that isn't a cuck for neocon foreign policy is a SJW.
>>71031824
Well, that's how twists work. It wouldn't be much fun if the kebab was the bad guy every single time.
>>71025751
Do people rank Kiefer's performance in 24 among the best ever (Gandolfini, Hamm, etc)?
>>71034466
He's more like Chuck Norris
>>71035675
As in he's never had a bad performance?
goat tv show
Torture propaganda, I'd say no.
It was pretty harsh with the Islam panic, though.
There is a literally a scene where rednecks almost lynch terrorist muslims, before they are rescued by well-meaning liberals. Islamophobia almost saved America in 24 and the liberals fucked it up.
And then in one season, a well-meaning white family who sticks up for their muslim neighbors find out they're terrorists, get kidnapped, and half of them end up dead.
They tried to keep critics at bay by having a scene where a good muslim character gets randomly beaten to death by rednecks, before he can save the day, but that was one instance of "Islamophobia is bad!" vs. literally dozens of "IF YOU EVEN REMOTELY TRUST MUSLIMS, YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE DIGGING YOUR OWN GRAVE"
>It's a person that knows how to stop the terrorists but is reluctant to or won't tell Jack how get shot and only gives him a hint with their last breath episode
