Tell me again how you don't watch old films.
>>71010961
>black and white
>only boring drama or cheesy sci-fis
>literally every performance is terrible and phony
>no violence or swear words or moral ambiguity at all
>>71010961
HOW?
they're just not as accessible and there's more movie being made now more then ever.
>>71010961
>no tits
>>71011074
>no fancy color to keep me visually stimulated
>no flashy action to keep my ADD in check
>people aren't switching between whispering and shouting all the time
>no naughty words or rude stuff so I don't get a thrill out of secretly watching it late at night on low volume while my mommy sleeps upstairs
>>71010961
They're boring as fuck. I do get a kick out of seeing redditors like yourself forcing yourself to watch this shit to look intelligent though
>>71012070
where do old movies end and new movies begin for you? Like what year?
Vitti is my waifu.
>>71012401
there's no binary distinction but i think the 30s-50s are the most boring, speaking generally
>>71012675
Is this action flick from 1902 boring too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FrdVdKlxUk
>>71012638
She is goddess hnnnng
>>71012727
>I think the 30s-50s are the most boring, speaking generally
I judge people who pull this shit, honestly.
I don't have a 'born in da wrong generation' boner for old films, or hold them up like a mythical oasis of good film making or anything, but if you're the sort of person who just blanket refuses to watch anything black and white, or even give a silent film a chance, you're a fucking moron.
There's no excuse for it.
>>71012675
Why? That's a huge number of films you're grouping together over 3 decades.
>>71012842
Thank you for actually saying something correct.
>>71011074
That's really retarded
>black and white
Lawrence of Arabia, 2001 A Space Odyssey etc...
>only boring drama or cheesy sci-fis
Comedies: Some Like It Hot, Chaplin etc... Or are you trying to say film genres were established in 90s or 00s?
>literally every performance is terrible and phony
Well that's really retarded. Name me a better performance than Al Pachino in The Godfather
>no violence or swear words or moral ambiguity at all
That's shit, are you so stupid that this is what you looking for in a film?
>>71010961
I watch them now and then, but let's be realistic. 90% of classics are overrated and many of them have aged like milk. Newer movies are just better.
>>71012777
Vertigo (1958)
>>71010961
I do watch them occasionally and I think some of them age well and some of them just dont.
>>71012925
Let's be realistic, they are not. Obviously. Only 11 yo kid would think otherwise.
>>71012874
I was asked to point to a year, that's why...
>all the protagonists are straight white men
>>71011074
>>71012070
It sure is pleb time around here.
Go back to your capeshit and GoT containment threads.
>>71013074
I meant why do you think those years are "the most boring"?
>>71013037
It's all up to taste. Obviously a movie from 1953 will not be the same as one from any decade after, so if you go at it expecting something modern and familiar you'll be disappointed. Once you accept things for what they are and open yourself up to new styles, you can find a whole new spectrum of things you do or don't like
Personally, I don't like much noir at all, despite it being the most "modern" classic genre and the most recommended by youn-ish movie fans. I'm rapidly falling in love with old Westerns though, which a few years ago I never would have expected myself too.
>Lawrence of Arabia, 2001 A Space Odyssey etc...
both from the 1960s, when colour film really took hold. not really that old in the grand scheme of things, but I doubt you've seen anything else of that era seeing as you named the most popular shit
>>71012924
The Godfather isnt an old movie you fucking child
>That's shit, are you so stupid that this is what you looking for in a film?
hurr violence and profanity means ur dumb!!!
>Comedies: Some Like It Hot, Chaplin
I will continue to list the most well known examples because im a twat!
>>71010961
Good looking men weren't invented yet back then.
>>71013452
Hello from 1925
>>71013051
>le epic everything was better in the old days maymay
Only 80 year olds and tryhard hipsters actually believe this.
>>71013560
That's not Potemkin is it?
I recently learned that Eisenstein was gay (before seeing that eh Greenaway film on it) and after that the opening to Potemkin seems extremely homoerotic
>>71013676
Yup
>>71013373
Your film examples are too famous for my obscure pretentious intelligent taste, even though it was not the point of a question: the post.
Lot of idiots on both sides of this thread. It's impossible to say that newer or older movies are better because that's an arbitrary distinction that invites you to look only at the negatives of each side. Of course new movies will seem worse if you're only thinking of capeshit and jupiter ascending, and the same goes for older films. Also none of this is even related to op's post, he was just trying to say that the mentality of not watching "old" movies is silly.
>>71010961
holy fuck i literally just watched this movie
wtf OP did you read my mind
>>71013300
I meant why do you think those years are "the most boring
in general they lack the fluidity or naturalism of later cinema. it's like watching a stage play, too impersonal, too formal, too dead etc. I acknowledge there are some exceptions
>>71013245
I don't watch GoT and I'm probably more patrician than you 2bh
>>71014281
>I'm probably more patrician than you 2bh
You sound insecure. Bet you're a manlet too.
>>71010961
Why did Anna make up the story about the shark?
>>71014415
insecure? you're the one who began by calling me a pleb. im just telling facts, pleb
>>71014281
"Impersonal" I can get, for drama I greatly prefer the more intimate stuff than the bigger, projected emotions of Classic Hollywood.
The rest doesn't bother me at all. It's just a different style of staging and acting, they no longer get in my way of enjoying something outright. What would you say are the exceptions?
>>71014713
sure, it's just that style isn't for me personally. great and talented people have used that sort of art but I can't enjoy it.
I think Ozu's non-comedy is a big exception
>>71014462
Sure pal, whatever gets you through life.
>>71015091
nice spiderman guy
>>71013245
At least "capeshit" is entertaining unlike movies like Citizen Kane and Casablanca where fuck all happens and are considered classics for whatever stupid reasons.
>>71015371
people don't wanna feel like they wasted 2 1/2 hours by watching that shit so they pretend like it's some monumental thing and get other people to watch it then the cycle repeats
>>71014140
Dude, also just finished it. What do you think about the ending? I was expecting to have Anna's story not explained, but that ending. What did they mean by this?
Paul Dano's Criterion Top 10 was my launchpad for watching old movies I have always intended on seeing but never tried.
Now old movies don't scare me. But I just need to say Ozu is better than Tokyo Story, why is that considered his masterpiece?
Make Way for Tomorrow was a special film for me, and made me open up to dat old shit, wadddup
>>71014442
Honestly this film didn't make much sense. The cinematography was great though. And Monica Vitti is hot as hell.
>watching black and white 3DPD
>>71015831
i thought it was supposed to mean that their relationship might become more meaningful than just a quick shag (unlike all of the other relationships in the movie) since they are both actually emotional about it
>>71015371
>>71015425
Some huge plebs right there.
>>71015997
found the kind of person I was talking about
>>71015371
>>71015425
This shit right here is why we need elitism on /tv/. This board needs to be purged from plebs.
>>71015988
How could their relationship be any serious if he acts like this. After saying he loves her. Absolutely inappropriate.
>>71010961
it's americans
they're not able to undrestand a movie that has not been made in america, lately.
the others watch it.
>>71016269
well she forgives him and he seems distraught after he does it
he doesn't seem to give much of a shit when anna disappears, in contrast
>>71016153
Do you know of any place where it is possible to find people who are really into cinema, to have discussion with? Those who have idea of values in films, and who have actually seen all important classics.
>>71016276
Pretty sure very few watch Orson Welles' films.
>>71016309
Well this makes sense. But he's still a faggot for cheating on such goddess.
>>71011789
God she's gorgeous
Gotta watch this soon
>>71015918
Red Desert > L'Eclisse > La Notte > L'Avventura
>>71016353
There are plenty of message boards devoted to it, though I can't mention any off the top of my head.
>>71016353
the karagarga forums
>>71010961
I love Hollywood movies from the 1930's to 1960's, more than anything else actually. The only thing is that I've never been able to get into silent films or foreign films, every once in a while I try a few movies, get bored and give up. Not sure why because I am interested in expanding my horizons, maybe I'm just doomed to be a pleb forever
![00001.mpls_snapshot_00.01.01_[2016.06.16_23.26.30].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lzTvHBY.jpg "00001.mpls_snapshot_00.01.01_[2016.06.16_23.26.30].jpg")
but I do, based Ford and Antonioni are few of my favorite directors.Malick, De Palma, Zombie and Eastwood are the others
>>71016353
>important classics
What does that even mean?
>>71016845
L'Avventura > La Notte > L'Eclisse > Red Desert
literally
>>71017318
I assume it means films that were highly influential, acclaimed or best exemplify their particular genre, time period or movement
I only ever watch The Apartment over and over about every two weeks
>>71017392
>>71016845
This is literally impossibru. I love all 4.
Believe me, I've tried getting people into films made before 2006 and or foreign/independent/art cinema its a fools errand, you hear the same shit.
Everyone just tells you everything is too old, slow, boring, gimmicky, pretentious, weird for the sake of weird, underexplained, exploitative, overacted, overly long, too violent, not enough shakey cam, no jump scares, that they have no idea who's who, they watch a black comedy and don't notice its a comedy, they don't pick up on visual ques or symbols.
We need a clean-out-genocide and now ...
>>71017049
You're not pleb already. As for silent, hmmm, have you tried Chaplin? There is no way you could hate it. Try City Lights. As for foreign, again, they are no worse than American. Try 8½, Wild Strawberries, Breathless, Bicycle Thieves.
>>71017107
I love Ford. My favorite is The Searchers. I also liked Stagecoach, The Grapes of Wrath, My Darling Clementine, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.
>>71017513
>before 2006
Is the world really THAT doomed?
>>71017513
We live in a world where Pg13 remakes and capeshit/cgi childrens films, reign supreme, white people playing blacks, black people playing whites, women playing men. A world where a film can be universally hated by critics and online audiences but still makes a ton of dollars.
>>71017571
Well, yeah. Who doesn't? I mean honestly. I love the Searchers, TMWSLV, Stagecoach, The Grapes of Wrath.
I have some free time tomorrow so I can continue watching his filmography.
Something about his directing, just beautiful how simple it is and how ethereal despite being grounded. Sorry if that sounds pretentious wank, but that's how I feel.
>>71017524
I'll give those a try, thanks
>>71017686
>>71017686
>Who doesn't? I mean honestly.
Everyone else on this board except us two.
>>71017624
I'm rageposting to an extent because I remember how thick I was as a teenager/kid and no I wasn't the only one.
I got triggered by an imdb post I read some years ago also where a guy was praising the terminator reboot over the originals because he could watch old, pre 2000s films.
>>71016994
don't you need an invite for that
>>71017829
you are a patrician, aren't you?
>>71017571
>>71017686
The Searchers is dull as fuck.
>>71017786
Just want to quickly add, I'm not against new films I love all eras, firmly believe that every director/era has its stinkers and winners.
Gonna watch The Bridge on the River Kawaii now. Hope it's good. At least it's in color.
>>71017874
I think it's beautifully shot but I have to agree, honestly I don't care much for Ford's later work, but I love the films he made in the mid 30's - early 40's. Stagecoach, The Hurricane, The Lost Patrol, Drums Along the Mohawk, Wee Willie Winkie, How Green Was My Valley, etc.
>>71011074
>only boring drama or cheesy sci-fis
and horror, comedy, gangster movies, war movies, etc, etc
>no violence or swear words or moral ambiguity at all
Obviously you've never heard of the hays code or seen any movies that came out before it was implemented. Obviously you've never seen any foreign films from this era. There's plenty of movies going back to the silent era full of nudity and gore.
>>71010961
I do. The Universal monsters are some of my all-time favorites.
>>71018082
Yeah, it's beautifully shot, but why film in Monument Valley and say it takes place in Texas? That triggered me more than anything.
![How.Green.Was.My.Valley.1941.720p.mkv_snapshot_00.21.46_[2016.06.17_02.43.11].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZYntvHX.jpg "How.Green.Was.My.Valley.1941.720p.mkv_snapshot_00.21.46_[2016.06.17_02.43.11].jpg")
>>71017874
Don't know how you call it dull, more like absolute fucking gut wrenching film. Wayne as Ethan Edwards' has amazing performance and it's shot beautifully.
>>71010961
>sunday
>the GoT day
>plebs all over the board
Who woulda thought. At least our gotfriends are being honest about their plebiness here, if you say shit like this on reddit you get downvoted amirite?
>>71012675
>>71012874
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code
How come actors sounded different in the 30's and 40's?
>>71018244
I think the sound equipment they used during that time was more primitive and clunky
I can only imagine so some fat, smelly, loser NEET living off food stamp rations, the illumination of his ancient laptop screen bouncing off his triple chin and highlighting runway Ramen noodles, downloading shitty, cheesy old movies and thinking he's somehow a man of dignified and refined taste. Pathetic.
>>71012401
70s is the border decade. Films from the 80s and onwards are accessible for plebs, 60s and back aren't.
![00001.mpls_snapshot_01.20.46_[2016.06.16_02.39.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xTvpU39.jpg "00001.mpls_snapshot_01.20.46_[2016.06.16_02.39.29].jpg")
>>71018244
The sound equipment they use in Italian-French films at around 50s to 70s is horrible. American films from same era sound so much better.
>>71018252
Why were movies from the 30s-50s more boring.
There's your answer.
>>71018350
>I picture everyone with different opinions or tastes than me as something vile and pathetic because it makes me feel better about my own shitty existence
![00001.mpls_snapshot_00.18.58_[2016.06.16_22.27.53].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9y5AUNf.jpg "00001.mpls_snapshot_00.18.58_[2016.06.16_22.27.53].jpg")
>>71017571
>I also liked Stagecoach,
>mfw Ringo appears for the first time.
Amazing moment.
>>71012727
>it's a "I just took cinema 101 and think I know what I'm talking about" post
In the years and years to come, there will be people going apeshit saying that the first Iron-man film, was an old, dated and boring film. As the capeshit fans do now about for possible example...the wild strawberries.
Best 50s western coming through.
>>71018395
Different strokes, but I think it made them more interesting. Instead of being explicit, writers and directors had to be more metaphorical and find other creative ways to work around the code. This is what gave birth to Film Noir, which died off when the Hays Code began to lose sway
>>71018449
Every olden film "buff" is an unemployed nu male or a recluse.
>>71018395
Maybe you are just unaccustomed to visual storytelling and compelling, complex writing.
>>71018584
And you base this assumption on what exactly?
>there are people on /tv/ right now who can't appreciate or enjoy The Treasure of the Sierre Madre or Sunset Blvd. or Rear Window
I feel kind of bad for them to be honest.
Best 40s western coming through.
![Red.Desert.1964.1080p.Criterion.Bluray.DTS.x264-GCJM.mkv_snapshot_00.42.01_[2016.06.08_03.23.23].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CcjNyYZ.jpg "Red.Desert.1964.1080p.Criterion.Bluray.DTS.x264-GCJM.mkv_snapshot_00.42.01_[2016.06.08_03.23.23].jpg")
>>71018652
To bait out replies from retards like you. Feeding trolls is just as bad as trolling itself.
>>71018693
>Show Antonioni to friend
>Leaves midway.
>Show The Thin Red Line to another (I know, too recent film for thread)
>Leaves because boring about 40 minutes in
I dont even.. how can people call something so visually striking and meaningful films boring
>>71018693
Rear Window is fantastic.
The Treasure of Sierra Madre is great.
Didn't care that much for Sunset Blvd.
>>71018704
wrong
>>71017049
Watch Orphée, by Jean Cocteau, it's one of the most entertaining surreal films I've seen. I'm fairly certain that it inspired David Lynch during the creation of Twin Peaks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogxtLZWN-h0
What is /tv/'s opinion on this? I thought it was comfy as fuck.
>>71018817
>>71018704
Why do you hate the Searchers
>>71018650
You know that all existed before the hays code, right?
>>71018704
>>71018817
Those aren't Fort Apache
>>71018704
>>71018693
>Dr. Dobbs, we're Federales
>You don't get to bring badges
>>71018817
Haven't seen it. Will check out. Also
>dat Danish poster
>>71018874
Searchers is 1956, brah.
What films do you recommend for breaking people past the "it's black and white and old" barrier?
I think the Marx Brothers are broad enough to be a good entry point.
>>71018562
Film Noir existed for years before the Hays Code. The best noirs are all pre code.
![the-lady-eve[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ojjTjdw.jpg "the-lady-eve[1].jpg")
I want to fuck Barbara Stanwyck so bad.
ITT turboplebs
>>71018704
this Humphrey Bogart fucker is in almost every single old movie
seriously I don't think I've ever seen an old movie poster that doesn't have his name on it
this guy is eric roberts' role model
>>71018960
Really? I thought Maltese Falcon was the first. I've seen many pre-code films and not one of them struck me as being noir
>>71010961
this guy looks like a fucking ape
>>71018964
I'd rather have me some Carole Lombard
>>71015371
I thought the elitism on boards like /tv/ or /mu/ were a forced thing without a particular reason, but that right there is some justification.
Who is your silentfu?
>>71018693
>>71018800
Am I missing something or is the showdown at the end of Rear Window just dumb as a bag of hammers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oowcsynjIwc
Thorwald knows Jeff's exact location in the room and he also knows he can't move anywhere because of his condition. So why does he stop every time Jeff lets off a flashbulb and waste time waiting for his eyes to readjust? Why not just close your eyes and charge Jeff immediately? I assume Hitchcock just put suspense over logic in that scene.
>>71018959
>What films do you recommend for breaking people past the "it's black and white and old" barrier?
If people have this barrier the best thing to do is take a blunt object and bash their fucking brains in until they die. They're energy will be released an hopefully they can come back in a new form that isn't detrimental to society.
>>71019206
Ms Brooks
give me some good romantic old films
>>71018959
Ford, Bergman.
Antonioni
Kurosawa & Ozu's black and white films
>>71015371
>people are actually falling for this
Come on /tv/, you're better than that
>>71018959
My go-to films are White Heat and The Thin Man, if they can't enjoy those there is no hope
>>71010961
The pacing.
>>71019436
>>71018856
Hitchcocks long lost sister its one of his best
This is my favorite old movie but its in technicolor so idk if it counts for this thread
Never seen any Welles film. Gonna start it after I've gone through few leftover Ford's and Antonioni films
Why was Bogart such a cool dude
>>71019664
Looking at it, it's hard to believe that was made about 3/4 of a century ago.
>>71019664
It counts, OP didn't mention anything about monochrome only. The Red Shoes is one of my favorites as well, though I'm a bit biased because I really love ballet
>>71019436
His-girl Friday
>>71019596
thanks
>>71019436
Brief Encounter
>>71019736
>>71019757
I was super impressed at how well the ballet sequence was shot for a movie from the 40s
>>71019531
>Implying.
Old films had pacing almost by default, because it came from personaly learning the craft.
80% of today's films have no pacing. At all.
>>71018959
Nothing really, if they have that barrier they're not really seeing the film, even if it's fucking Casablanca or some other light stuff.
>>71011074
Plebs actually think like this
>mfw I got some fucking music version of La Passion de Jeanne d'Arc
>mfw I have absolutely zero clue if my Touch of Evil version is the correct one
>>71013215
>the first feature length film in hollywood was an interracial love story
;^)
>>71019736
>>71019861
I actually find funny that people says things like "it's so ahead of it's time!" from good films of yesterday. Specially something like Red Shoes, a film that could only be made in that decade. I mean, the technology used for this (Matte paintings, Technicolor) is not obsolete, it's literally lost, so there's no way anyone could make a film like that these days.
>>71019436
Sabrina
Roman Holiday
Red Dust
It Happened One Night
Bringing Up Baby
Nothing Sacred
Holiday
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xnAEHFhxuQI
Get fucked plebs
>>71020204
I merely meant that if I hadn't know the film that webm was from, I might have assumed it was from a recent release. There's nothing really there that would immediately clue me otherwise. Not the colours. Not the clothing. Not the technology.
>>71012924
>Name me a better performance than Al Pachino in The Godfather
Marlon Brando in The Godfather, to start
>>71020342
baby's first surrealist short
>>71020432
The colors, clothing and tech are that webm, anon.
>>71018959
La Haine
The Seventh Seal
Any Hitchcock
The Killing
if you can't find enjoyment in any of those you should stick to television
>>71020248
thanks
>>71020204
I'd be down for a red shoes remake tho
>>71012924
>>71020479
greatest acting performance of all time is George C. Scott in Patton, this is a fact
>>71020479
Whenever I see a baby crying, I want to go up to it and slap it and tell it to act like a man regardless of its gender.
>>71020698
>George C. Scott in Patton
He's much better in Dr Strangelove, and even then Sellers towers over him
>>71011074
>black and white
So?
>only boring drama or cheesy sci-fis
Wrong. There's every genre we have today. Some great thrillers, crime movies, comedies, war films and other genres are out there.
>literally every performance is terrible and phony
>who are anthony perkins, max von sidow, orson welles, ingrid bergman, humphrey bogart and james stewart
>no violence or swear words or moral ambiguity at all
Deal with it.
>>71020627
That's what I mean, man. If you told me it was a 2016 picture from that webm alone, I might well have believed you. Watching it again, I might have to be convinced it looked a bit retro (Moira Shearer's hairstyle does look pretty 1940s though) but other than that, it seems virtually timeless to me.
![Halloween.II.2009.[Directors.Cut].1080p.Bluray.DTS.x264-GCJM.mkv_snapshot_00.28.55_[2016.06.15_00.58.50].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lhueeDo.jpg "Halloween.II.2009.[Directors.Cut].1080p.Bluray.DTS.x264-GCJM.mkv_snapshot_00.28.55_[2016.06.15_00.58.50].jpg")
>>71020698
no it is scout in halloween 2 by zombie
>>71011074
I never seen any thing on these boards as clearly bait as this list is and yet everyone fell for it hook, line & sinker.
>>71020626
what's a patrician's surrealist short
>>71021467
deren is both noob-friendly and patrician
>>71021502
what's non noob friendly
>>71021502
>deren
I remeber watching Meshes of the Afternoon in university. I don't remember enjoying it then but my opinion may have changed by now if I saw it again.
>>71010961
The only B&W movies I really enjoy are Some Like It Hot and the old Mae West movies.
>>71018856
one of my favourite hitchcocks. Prefer it over NxNW.
>>71021653
peter kubelka
>>71021678
watch her other stuff too. all fairly short
>>71011074
You clearly haven't seen anything other than the Wizard of Oz.
Try some crime and film noir related movies, they're a lot easier to get into for modern plebs.
>>71019729
poor man's cagney.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlk1ogJiTao
>>71010961
What decade to what decade is "old"?
>>71011074
The movie in OP's pic, L'Avventura, is one of the most morally ambiguous movies ever created.
Please fuck off back to /pol/ or /v/ or reddit or wherever it is you come from
>>71016845
Where can i watch these subbed? No luck finding them anywhere
>>71023937
You could watch them on hulu I guess.
>>71023937
You're pretty bad at torrenting/downloading, friendo
>>71023937
passthepopcorn
>>71024064
If that guy can't use google...
>>71024265
>buying movies
>buying a dead guy's movies
top kuk
>>71012842
true
>>71024313
Someone had to transfer these movies to blu-ray, buy the rights and etc.
>>71010961
Weird accents.
>>71010961
Because I don't know where to download them. I can only find shit like Breakfast at Tiffany's in the surface trackers
>>71024475
>Breakfast At Tiffany's
>shit
:^\
BIG
COCK
I'm happy to see this much genuine film discussion here
I left a while ago when this board got too plebby and shitposty but I'm pleasantly surprised to see that there is still some decent discussion
What's everyone's favorite french new wave film?
>>71025137
truffaut is shit
godard was the best new wave director
>>71023398
>tfw my dad was in New York at the time of his death and snaked into the memorial service
pmsl
>>71018067
This was great. Took a while to build up, but that last act was some intense shit. 8/10
>>71025137
>genuine film discussion
Where? Here? HAHA
>I left a while ago when this board got too plebby and shitposty
It only got worse, and keeps on this rhythm by the day
But if you think this thread is 'good discussion', well...
>>71010961
L'Avventura is legit one of the worst movies I have ever seen. Antonioni is garbage.
>>71027408
this is a reply
>>71017686
>plays
Who A Streetcar Named Desire here?
I enjoy all eras of film.
This is the best pre-1950 movie. It's a fucking joke that this isn't in the top 250 while so much boring shit is.
>>71019436
Boys Beware
>>71028763
It's a very good film, but you sound like a huge pleb
>>71030881
Aren't we all?
