Tim Heidecker, one of /tv/'s favorite comedians, wants you to stop stealing content.
And yeah, it's not some surrealist anti-comedy ironic skit. He's serious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njiM6ubf2PQ
Will that video finally make you get a job and pay for shit, you lazy bums?
>>70995552
shame he got cucked hard
>Will that video finally make you get a job and pay for shit, you lazy bums?
no
>>70995586
>wanting to get paid for your work is "getting cucked"
really weak argument
it's not our fault his broadcaster has shit distribution.
>>70995552
Nah.
>>70995619
not because of the video, check his twitter
>>70995552
Jokes on you, I use Utorrent.
>>70995552
its not our fault businesses havent found a way to make advertisers pay for torrent downloads
>>70995552
A very low chance of me stopping
>>70995552
It's been proven torrenting has NO effect on sales what so ever.
>>70995672
bittorrent is the protocol
>>70995552
>content creator doesn't want people pirating
more news at 11
Abolish intellectual property and get artists set up on better donation platforms. If you think nobody will pay if they don't have to, you wildly underestimate the importance of the arts in peoples' lives.
>>70995678
Seriously. I have to pay for Nefllix, HBO Go, fucking Amazon and godamn Hulu just to get all the content I want.
Either throw it up on Youtube or I'm going to pirate it. I pay enough.
>>70995552
Why would I fund an outdated business model designed to gouge ridiculous amounts of $ from consumers when the same content is easily accessible for free?
>>70995702
I'd argue it can genuinely help.
I don't like to use videogames as an example, but they are good here. There's a new type of anti piracy system called Denuvo, which basically kills piracy. Great, right?
Except every single game that has used it (apart from heavy hitters like FIFA that would sell anyway) has flopped. Primarily because there's no hype around it, as a lot of the people who pirate are the ones who talk about games, and build up sales through word of mouth.
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>>70995552
>You wouldn't pirate a motorcycle
>>70995552
>Comments are disabled for this video
What a suprise
>>70995756
Yeah Tim Heidecker is a corporate shill
I think torrent actually helped him A LOT
He just doesn't realize it
>>70995552
>created by Steve Goldbloom
>>70995552
>>70995652
I knew I always liked Eric more for a reason.
>>70995552
"No."
>>70995766
He doesn't understand what a great difference is between the two
You cannot make free instantanous copies of a motorcycle
if you own a set of tim & eric dvds and I borrow it from you
and I watch it
Have I "stolen" the content?
Because after watching I don't need it anymore
Now what if same situation, but we live far away, and I Want to borrow from you and you tell me, hey, seinding you the DVDs over mail is impractical, so I'll just send them over the Internet as compressed files
is this still illegal and wrong?
because that's what priatebay is
>>70995652
>@timheidecker happy fathers day to the best dad in the world. Im sure tom cruise heidecker jr is smiling down from heaven right now
whats so cucked about this
>>70995775
No one needs to see triggered pirates on the comment section, also there's no disscusion to be had, he's right, you're all wrong
>wawwww wawwww how dare he call me out BAWWW BAWWW how dare he dislike that I am not paying for his work BAWWW bawww
>>70995756
They also buy games. I'll use myself as an example. I pirated a game called Homeworld around 2008, it became my favorite game. Seven years later they make an HD version re-release...I was first in line to buy that shit...full price...special edition...bullshit swag.
>>70995766
>You wouldn't torrent a TAYNE
>>70995652
nope nothing on his twitter
>>70995552
>Tim and Eric Awesome Show
>Final episode date: May 2, 2010
Pretty sure that the people who worked on awesome show were monetarily compensated for their work already
>>70995822
>>70995652
thats a fucking made up character lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4IViUHEPNs
>>70995766
I would pirate the shit out of a motorcycle if it was possible.
>>70995851
Yeah. I pirated Psychonauts, loved it, bought it later. I pirated Mirror's Edge, loved it, bought it later.
They're games that I wasn't sure if I'd like, but in the end I did. I wouldn't have bought them if they were just listed on a store.
I bought Xavier and Wonder Showzen DVDs after torrenting them. Wouldn't have seen the shows otherwise.
>>70995622
this im not gonna support some rich assholes coke habit if i cant fucking legally buy the goddamn pos anyway.
cuckdecker welp there goes any interest i had left in their shit comedy
>>70995981
It really is a dice roll sometimes. What if I don't like the product that I've purchased? Now it's MY JOB to fucking pawn it or put it on craigslist...taking time out of my day to rid myself of terrible content?
>>70995552
>because this show doesn't air where you live how about you buy the season digitally on iTunes for 30 dollars
yeah I think I'll keep torrenting
>>70996090
Another assmad thief. Why do they get so flustered every time they get called out?
>>70995552
Is there a single streaming service that streams Tim and Eric anyways?
>>70995552
cant tell me what to do m8
>>70996127
If anyone would be mad in this situation it would be the person I'm "stealing" from lmao, I'm just saving money here mate
>>70995552
Celebrities are liberal shits. I will continue to pirate their garbage shows until they stop pushing refugee shit and supporting candidates like shillery.
>>70995552
Guess i'll torrent his show now
I pay for [adult swim] via my cable subscription and have his show VOD on my box.
I am within my rights to make any and all copies of his show I want.
Don't believe me Tim? Feel free to sue me. I'd love to take it to the SCOTUS and see if they want to overturn Sony v. Betamax.
>>70995552
ugh just add a couple coca cola adds around and get your money there
Does he genuinely think this'll work on people? I wouldn't stop torrenting even if Obama himself asked me personally tbqh
they really needed costume designer, cinematographers and other shit for the tim & eric show?
>>70995552
So what they couldn't pay for those costume makers, set designers and cinematographers on their show? Oh wait they did. So if they've already been paid for their job why do I have to pay you? 99% of people get paid for their job regardless of whether or not the thing they were working on makes money, because they have salaries. It's only the people right at the top which make money based on the performance of their show/movie etc. but that's also in addition to their upfront pay. Everyone is getting paid so what's the problem?
The guy who told him he torrented it but hated it did nothing wrong. Why pay for something that you're unsure will give you your money's worth? The system is broken and can't be fixed, unless they do something crazy like letting viewers pay what they think it's worth when they stop watching.
>>70996235
his audience is nu-males who can be told what to do quite easily
also people who are 'fan' favorites can get away with that- essentially guilting people into paying for it. You don't need 100% to pay only a small percentage.
This model has worked for The Cuck King as well as Trailer Park Boys
>Tim Heidecker net worth: Tim Heidecker is an actor, comedian, musician, writer and director who has a net worth of $2.5 million.
I get paid to make television and I still steal it.
Suck my dick tim, you ruined comedy.
>>70996192
So do you only buy products from people who share your political views? When you do your food shopping, do you have to vet the store owners first to make sure they're not Democrats?
>>70995552
>one of /tv/'s favorite comedians
Ah now Tim, let's not get carried away
I have never seen a single episode of Tim and Eric, and I expected to pay full price for the entire series to see if I would like it at all? Who would do that?
>>70996341
>So do you only buy products from people who share your political views?
If they are especially obnoxious or insulting to MY views, yes I boycott them.
>>70996341
>When you do your food shopping, do you have to vet the store owners first to make sure they're not Democrats?
I have two major chains in town. One is mob-owned and one is not. I choose not to shop at the mob owned supermarket.
I also don't support companies like Nestle who are bad corporate citizens.
You are a company, not a person silly but if IF YOU GONNA BE A MAN IMMA TREAT YOU LIKE A MAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHukfEdMNeM
>this is my number, i have invented this number and i demand that you pay me if you want to use it.
>>70995756
I've bought several shows and movies after torrenting then first, Dredd for example.
If I could get what little content I watch, as fast and as high quality as torrents, for a reasonable price legally, I would gladly pay for it. As it stands now the only way to watch pretty much anything where I live is to import a DVD or a Blu-ray, when and if it comes out, at three times the price, at ten times lower the living standard.
>>70996410
>If they are especially obnoxious or insulting to MY views, yes I boycott them.
And if one of these companies happened to be selling a product that you couldn't get elsewhere, and you knew that you could steal it from them easily and get away with it, would you do so?
Nice try Tim.
>>70995552
I agree with this. Think about for a moment. Torrenting comes with a heavy price. Every single crap movie you watch costs you 90 - 120+ minutes of your life. Dont dl, dont buy, dont watch and have these pathetic coked up fuckers get a real job, or come up with stuff that is actually WORTH of your time.
>>70995552
>MUH MORAL HIGH GROUND
Fuck you. If something is available for free and you choose to instead spend money on it for no other reason than, "Because Hollywood doesn't get my money otherwise and tv says stealing is bad," then you are an indoctrinated fucking idiot. You think these multi-millionaires give a fuck about you? They're laughing at us all the way to the bank, I guarantee it. Fuck them, fuck you, and fuck any idiot who actually considers file sharing a form of stealing.
I do have a job, but I pirate because streaming services have shit selection. I'll gladly pay whatever Netflix charges per month when they've got the same selection as public trackers like kickass
I feel like it's a growing pain, people don't want to pay for everything but when you have money to spend on something silly generally you will give it to people you want to support, I don't want to give 2 dollars to a network but I'll give 50 to one of my favorite musicians when I don't even need to. I try to support all the media I love. I think the job has changed to advertising to the majority and monetizing the minority who really love you, plus why would I want to make the business model of 80 million dollar Adam Sandler movies stay relevant? I want all of that to die like dead animals in a ditch on fire. The industry that's treated their customers like morons are angry that they have options, fuck them. Also I can't believe anything Tim Heidecker says is genuine he is bullshitting 99% of the time
>>70996536
>And if one of these companies happened to be selling a product that you couldn't get elsewhere, and you knew that you could steal it from them easily and get away with it, would you do so?
Probably not because I am not interested in products I have not heard anything about and are not essential enough in my life that I go and seek them out.
As I pointed out earlier, I have adult swim and OnDemand is part of my cable package. I am well within my rights to torrent any show of his that appears on a channel I pay for.
>>70996659
He's not laughing at me. Every piece of shit of his I watched, I watched for free.
The only decent fucking show he and his faggot friend ever made was only good because John C. Reilly carried it.
>>70995702
>depriving a product of sales has NO effect on sales what so ever
dude.... whoa....
Dear Tim,
Most people who use torrents are teenagers and unemployed people in their 20s.
Torrenting is the only way they can see your stuff.
Stop sweating it. Faggot.
>>70996771
You know that even if Adam Sandler's films flop he still makes a huge profit through product placements alone, right?
>It's like stealing a motorcycle
holy shit this fucking argument again
>>70995552
>bit torrented it
Nobody fucking says that, it's the current year not 2000's.
Remember, the more you torrent, the more you destroy hollywood's leftist monopoly on ideas.
So keep torrenting.
>>70996813
Jack and jill is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen in my life, if people watch that movie and still think they shouldn't illegally download things then they don't even deserve freedom
>>70996813
don't reply to me again
>YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A MOTORCYCLE
is he saying he supports trickle down economics
>>70997086
basically yes
>pay me and the higher-ups at the top of the pyramid because we'll make sure that we pay the lower-downs more as a result, trust us, no really, that's what we'll do, we swear
>the far-off future of 2020
>due to advances in printer technology, every home has a motorcycle printer that only requires electricity. Motorcycle companies are designing motorcycles and selling the designs, but some dastardly ne'er-do-wells are instead sharing the designs illegally on QubitTorrent.
>The producers quickly divide into two categories: the companies who change their business model to focus on selling maintenance and expertise, instead of profits from selling their proprietary designs. They also offer services that help users customize their motorcycles to their liking.
>The other category's chosen business model is to whine and complain about the changing market, saying it's not fair to get motorcycles for free, and fighting against windmills.
So what's the difference in paying $20 and watching it on a cable channel? Or what If I went over to a friend's house and watched it on their TV? Am I then stealing his content? If I've already seen something legally, is downloading it and watching it again illegal? How? I've already seen it and you can't take that way. Rewatching it is just experiencing it again. Data is not a finite thing. It's the most recyclable something can possibly be. Most true artists I've seen don't care how you acquire their content because it's not about making money, it's about you experiencing what they're making. I've been to so many concerts where the people say to download their stuff because they just want you to listen to it. The way things are set it, if you make something that's good and tons of people download it, you'll become lucrative if you want to be just by virtue of popularity.
>>70997086
Tim heidecker is clearly dead inside man, I know because I'm a comedian and it's not hard to understand when you're the same. Comedy usually comes from tragedy because it's the only way to survive it, he's not angry about torrenting he's depressed that someone exists who complains about the quality of the content he stold
Salame
>>70997139
well think about it as your view is only a view if it supports the work they do, you watching it at your friends is fine but you're not patronizing the show that way. People should only support the art they would be afraid of losing if they didn't
>>70995672
>uses utorrent
>thinks the joke is on someone else
How's that bitcoin mining for someone else coming along?
>>70997086
>>70997127
>implying trickle down economics was ever implemented EVER
>implying supply side economics doesn't work
>>70997214
You said "someone else" twice in your post and it really ruins the flow.
if i could get away with it, i would steal a motorcycle
>>70996771
>depriving a product of sales
The scumbags who torrent shit never had any intention whatsoever to buy the things in question. They're being deprived of 0 sales.
love Tim and Eric, but as a leftist faggot he should realize that some people are too poor to afford to buy every single show or film they like. he's using borderline capitalistic logic. I'm not paying for something just so someone more rich than me can get even more rich than me.
>>70997237
I'm not trying to be poetic here; I ain't no George Lucas.
>>70997243
then why are they scumbags? I want as many people as possible to enjoy my content, and I want to earn enough to survive while making it. That system still works it's just less common that you'll get disgusting Eddie Murphy money now, which in my opinion is a good thing, I only hope that it happens to the sports world because apparently every athlete who exists is a piece of shit
>>70997243
i never really get this argument. the only reason they had no intention to pay is because piracy is possible. they'd have no choice but buy it through legal means otherwise. piracy merely existing is depriving companies/creators of sales
>>70997311
>then why are they scumbags?
Oh that's for reasons completely unrelated to torrenting. You're probably all furries and into tranny porn anyway. Look at the address bar in your browser, for crying out loud.
>>70995552
>we like to be able to pay ppl
yeah but you also first get some jew to give you a boat load of cash on the promise that you'll "sell x-number" to the public
you're literally taking out bank loans and then complaining to us about it
go get ad revenue faggot
>>70995552
Tim Heidecker can suck my dick.
I already stopped torrenting a couple of months back, I still have access to everything I could get before I just have to pay for some of it.
>>70995900
that music
jesus christ i forget how great this guy is
Yeah I remember when they had to stop production on Game of Thrones because it was the most torrented show in existence oh no wait they're making money like mad and your argument is fucking retarded.
>Illegal downloads makes it tougher for him and his team to make more comedy.
Tim, buddy, you're not that funny to begin with so please understand that because you're not funny to begin with nobody wants to pay for your shitty unfunny comedy attempts in the first place.
Learn how to actually be funny - take roles in movies that people actually see, stop doing stupid shit on YouTube, make a real name for yourself and perhaps, maybe perhaps someday you'll earn what you're worth.
Oh, and fuck you very much.
>>70995619
>being a comedian
>work
>>70997311
Heidecker's shows are too niche for wide audiences anyway, he was never going to make Adam Sandler money even without the perceived torrent loss.
>>70997320
Not really, the only reason they had no intention to pay is because they'd just go for something else if this wasn't available, also without paying. I don't think you quite understand economics.
For example, I think Hollywood had the best year in history last year in terms of box office numbers and revenue. So how in the fuck are they losing revenue from torrenting? If anything, it's giving them more exposure to audiences they would have never reached otherwise.
>>70997422
Well, that aside, the best thing he's ever done has been completely free on YouTube, which is On Cinema. So, I don't get it? Am I stealing from him even though it's released for free?
>>70997403
Blows white knights the fuck out every time.
>>70995672
you have any idea what the protocol is called?
I guess you really do use uTorrent, way to go my leddit buddy !
>funnyman
That's not John C. Reilly.
>>70997518
Well, you ARE using adblock or ublock, aren't you? Aren't you?
>>70997467
>Not really, the only reason they had no intention to pay is because they'd just go for something else if this wasn't available, also without paying. I don't think you quite understand economics.
I don't think you quite understand the concept of piracy not being possible. Do you really think in that hypothetical world these people would just never watch movies or tv shows or read books or anything?
pls tell me they spiked the audio and also made the lip sync off on purpose, fucking genius
>that skype call
god damn i need to torrent this show more to catch up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrlAviB9kDg
So wait
He calls his fans "kids"
And admits he's only really known from one line in a movie he did once
And he wonders why he makes no money?
>>70997563
There's plenty of free entertainment out there, you sound confused.
>>70996129
Adult Swim's website streams some of it but not the complete series of ASGJ
>>70995552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI
>>70997582
Even worse is he was keeping PBS from getting any more money by explicitly stating that this wasn't a pledge drive.
Who's gonna feed black science man after a fucking selfish comment like that?
>>70997554
Of course. :^)
>>70997606
I'm TRYYYYIN
I've never heard of this person, so I doubt he has anything to fear from me
>>70997606
>they immediately think the music video on their clearly already full floppy disk is alive
>turns out they're right
I love this PSA.
>>70995552
I wouldn't watch this faggot's shit for fee.
>>70995552
>not some surrealist anti-comedy ironic skit
are you sure about that
>>70997694
When he willingly prevented people from calling to donate to PBS I started to suspect.
>>70995900
>It's been.. "Its been six weeks"
fuck that was golden
Literally who?
>>70997591
You're just not really talking about the same thing.
>>70995552
>Tim Heidecker, one of /tv/'s favorite comedians
>>70996341
I try to reward people who I consider decent/good people as much as possible.
There's something called "Good enough". It would be unpractical to verify everyone's political affiliations before purchasing something from them. It's so easy not go to theatre, it's so easy to not pay for netflix or buy a movie. You think it's a fair comparison to make? To compare food with watching movies?
Also, these people from who I buy food. They don't have a massive following of young people who would easily parrot their opinions and vote for the policies that their idols support.
>>70995900
>IT'S BEEN
Fucking lost it there.
>>70995900
>my fucking sides
where do i start with on cinema? is it all this good?
>>70997641
>>70997679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUCyvw4w_yk
>>70997781
I'm just not agreeing with your logical fallacy, we're discussing torrenting taking revenue away from creators. In the case of big hollywood studios and media conglomerates, this is absolutely not true.
How am I supposed to watch Decker Season 4?
Yes.
>>70995652
>but he badmouthed muh trump
You're a dumb piece of shit who deserves all this confusion and misplaced rage.
>>70995552
in light of this, lets all watch a stream of billion dollar movie
https://rabb.it/r/e1xhqg
>>70997854
>le logical fallacy
fuck you. i wasn't really talking about that and i'm literally torrenting as we speak
If an artist or entertainer is really good I'll buy it, sadly there is mostly shit between the gold and this falls under that, don't care what the adult swim crowd has to say.
>Comments are disabled for this video.
How you know the people who were commenting on it are right. Fuck him.
>>70995900
This isn't funny. Like, I get that he's parodying mourning celebrity parents, but I just can't help but feel that a mourning father would be kinda pissed at this, and Tim seems to be wanting this to happen. His only joke is that he's an asshole drumming up publicity with his dead son in the most offensive way he can think of. There's no real joke outside of bad animation.
>created by Steve Goldblum
>>70998126
>Someone might be offended so I better not do this
>>70996071
I know that feel. Though these days even if I like something a lot I almost no inclination to watch it a second time.
>>70998215
Don't pull that bullshit anon. If there were actual jokes or comedy then by all means, offend away. If offense is the exclusive point of your sketch, then it's a bad sketch.
>>70998156
wrong surname
>>70995552
Did he not get rich or something?
I thought due to the popularity of that show he has been able to produce other work he is interested in, nowadays there is no greater barometer for interest than online downloads.
It's a joke.
>>70998331
Same difference.
It's funny how the most watched and financially successful TV shows and movies are also the most torrented.
>All this constant, unending bickering and ethical quandaries as to the moral justifications of pirating.
It's stealing.
It's also the most practical, and justifiable option. But it is stealing.
You get something for free, with no risk to yourself, at greater convenience and with more control over how you desire to enjoy the media you've stolen. And you would be a genetic failure not to take advantage of such a colossally large opportunity. An opportunity to have something for nothing.
But it is stealing.
Either accept that, or go on contriving irrelevant metaphors to appease the evolved social response to taking what you haven't paid for.
I'll call it what it is, and keep on doing it. Because i am not a fool.
Anything that isn't on any streaming services for less than $20/m will be torrented. Get with the times grandpa.
>>70998499
This nigga gets it
>>70998499
>You get something for free
Was I stealing TV signals before as well?
Ads paid for those as well think.
Copyright infringement /= piracy
Copyright infringement /= stealing
Copyright infringement /= serious
While you call it what you want, I'll call it what it actually is: copyright infringement.
>And yeah, it's not some surrealist anti-comedy ironic skit. He's serious.
He's clearly not being serious. How fucking stupid is this board?
>>70998594
>Makes post detailing how labels are irrelevant if what's happening in practice is identical.
>Misses the point entirely.
I actually have stopped torrenting pretty much everything but movies. And if I like the movie I rent it or buy it later. But through streaming services and all that shit I have been paying for my shit which is pretty new to me.
>>70998126
>>70998301
>getting offended by comedy
>>70998499
>You get something for free
This is not the definition of stealing you genius.
Pirating is as much theft as borrowing a game from your friend. Either way, the company technically "loses out on a sale".
>b-but one friend borrowing you their game is not the same as a million people downloading a game from a torrent site
You can't define stealing by how many people are doing it. Whether or not an action is stealing can obviously not depend on how many people are doing it.
>>70998676
>Pirating is as much theft as borrowing a game from your friend.
So if i stole the entire contents of your HDD by copying it to my HDD, then wen't rumagging through your gay porn video's without paying for them on Gapingfaggotassholes.com, you would consider that borrowing, not stealing your information?
>>70995552
>comments disabled
What a pussy.
>>70998652
>$.001 of my stream subscription goes to content creators, I am so much better than a filthy pirate :))
>>70998734
Your retarded fucking analogy is not even relevant. Piracy is comparable to me first selling you my content of my HDD for your viewing, and then you start letting others view it for free. It's not theft.
>>70997320
You assume pirates have disposable income they would have otherwise used to purchase expensive as fuck blu-ray sets or subscribe to movie services. I can tell you that if I couldn't pirate, I would probably just find another hobby, because I would rather save my money for important/more valuable things.
You could argue that pirates provide free marketing for the movie. More people seeing the movie: the more hype they can drum up for the franchise. I'm pretty sure Game of Thrones thrived because of this, especially with the foreign market.
You know, I'd be sympathetic but this mother fucking faggot made Decker air only on adult swim with absolutely no online distribution for Australia so he can go lay an egg for all I care.
I really have no option but to wait for a torrent to appear because it really seems like they have no intention of making it available to me to watch. I would pay for it. Fucking faggots.
>>70998830
Well, the law disagrees. And so does anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
You have a distribution platform to let me purchase videos of you taking it up your faggoty fairy ass? Correct.
I am using illegal methods to circumvent copywrite law, and am distributing my purchased copy of you sucking big black cocks without your consent, or monetary compensation to you.
It's stealing.
You just can't be punished for it, so you don't consider it such.
Because you're stupider than i am.
>>70998634
It's not identical.
No one is hijacking anything, they are infringing on a copyrighted product.
They are dealing in unauthorized copies.
"Labels" or rather terms matter. They are used to further demonize what is a commonplace and harmless activity.
Is it illegal to go into a library and make photocopies?
>>70998921
It disagrees with you.
While propaganda machine can call it stealing, the law makes a distinction. As in separate laws and penalties for the acts.
No, just because you are punished by the law for two things, it does not mean these two things are the same act.
>>70998993
It actually is with many books and such, in my college no one gave a shit though, it's information.
>>70998993
Actually, without a membership, or using the photocopiers provided and paying for them, it is.
What you do in the privacy of your own home, however, is protected under many, many privacy laws.
So it's a legal grey area.
Until you start profiting from it by selling your photocopies, no one cares.
Wow, it's almost like torrenting is the same as doing that.
Weird.
>>70995552
I'll stop when jobs are available again. And the only ones available aren't foreign speaking only.
Restore business, deal with overpopulation of western nations who are being raped for everything they have and I'll stop.
>>70998887
I'm actually in the same boat as you. I don't have disposable income (or any income lol) and I pirate. If pirating was impossible I'd watch less tv shows because I can't afford it. (There is a company I basically already do this with. I want their content but I know they're a smallish company so I never pirate from them)
So many people pirate though. There would be a lot that have enough money to afford getting it legally.
>>70995552
Pirates are the most informed consumers. We support the right games/tv/movies etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtI3ghO4jZ8
>>70999109
>shit, we better appease /pol/ so they'll stop torrenting!
Will tv shows and movies get Denuvo eventually? I'm scared...
>>70995552
this makes me want to pirate even more.
>>70999230
The right women too, apparently.
>>70995552
>GOLDBLOOM
>Test driving is bad
is there a site or app along the lines of "donate money to the people who made this movie you stole"? I might use something like that for movies I really enjoyed
When you live in Canada or Australia sometimes you have no other choice but to pirate because we don't get shit.
>>70999474
no you just buy the movie/media you enjoyed. support only the good ones.
you have to try before you buy.
Its about time the world tells this faggot that he is not funny.
#timisnotfunny
>>70995552
>theres a trickle down effect
rofl this fucking retard believes in reganomics, why are amerifats so dumb?
im gonna go torrent all this faggots shit just out of spite
>>70999555
This.
Also checked.
>>70999493
Same prob in europe.
How am I supposed to stream something from adult swim without a cable provider key, whatever the hell this is
>>70998828
they signed onto the streaming services, if they weren't OK with the deal they don't have to allow them to be streamed.
>>70999572
I'm doing that, seeding it for months too.
I'm not even going to watch his shit.
>>70997403
most shows aren't game of thrones tho.
an example for the other side of argument is hannibal - if more people had watched it legally and fewer folks torrented it, it might not have been cancelled
>>70995552
He has the face of a cuck. Prep my BBC whitey
(((Heidecker)))
>>70999544
how much of that goes to the people who made the film? what's the point of supporting middle men?
>>70997839
>>70997725
context for this?
>>70999576
same thing in the USA. sites require you have a cable key. even worse only the big cable companies (Verison/Comcast) have a monopoly over them. So if you have a more regional/smaller cable company you are shit out of luck from seeing the content.
>>70999555
>'open minded' comedian
>anti-free market
entertainment is not charity
>>70999493
Is it illegal if nobody owns the distribution rights?
Isnt this like fansubbing?
>>70995865
NUDE TAYNE
>>70999796
Yes in that regard, torrenting is actually a good thing since it would be costly to store the file somewhere, and someone could just upload it and charge people disgusting prices when the rights ended ages ago.
>>70999796
yes, but it's not illegal to snub your fans so they could give a shit.
>>70999493
This
The content might (MIGHT) get here, but it'll be late, might have horrible subs/dub, might be missing bonus things, if you watch it from tv it's riddled with ad breaks and so.
is he going to sue napster next?
>>70999607
Or maybe if it didn't have a shitty third season it wouldn't have been cancelled.
>Spend 4 years on your garbage formulaic sketch show
>Feature a soulless corporation, "Cinco," which you morally posture yourself above as a brilliant satirist
>Agree to make commercials for Procter & Gamble, a true Cinco if there every was one
>Play dumb about your work, claim it isn't satirical and has no message, but constantly refer people to some idiotic essay a college freshman girl wrote about you and your "art" that says otherwise
>Almost redeem yourself by producing The Eric Andre Show and Nathan For You, but not really
Also anyone who finds "On Cinema" funny or interesting should get out of my house
>>70997841
It's fucking fantastic. This is one of the wackier moments (from the last Oscar special), the whole thing is very dry and based on the characters' weird actions. Start with season 2, though 1 is fine, and watch the whole thing.
Meanwhile Sam Hyde doesn't even delete MEGA links to the full Kickstarter TV left in comments on MDE videos.
>>70998526
Stop replying to your own posts, it's embarrassing to behold.
>>71000069
You have shit taste and are probably Australian. Pathetic.
>>71000033
>>71000111
>>71000144
btw these are all me, kek has blessed my patrician opinion, fuck Tim & Eric
>>70996381
Actually this doesn't really fly for Awesome Show since they've uploaded so much to Youtube that you could easily sample the show.
>>70995552
Can't even watch Decker season 4 on YT anymore...
>>70998126
>Like, I get that he's parodying mourning celebrity parents, but I just can't help but feel that a mourning father would be kinda pissed at this
He's not, he's asserting how much of an unbelievable piece of shit "Tim Heidecker" is, how warped his morals are and to what lengths he will go to try and build an acting/musical career.
>>70999109
I'll stop torrenting when our values stop being under attack.
>>71000033
>trying to find an agenda being pushed in awesome show
Stormblr is rotting your brain. Do your parents a favor and kill yourself, that site was started by literal KKK members, anyway.
>>71000033
On Cinema is god-tier you faggot.
Gregg Turkington is a national treasure. You'll never catch me saying that in character, but he truly is. I saw him as Neil Hamburger last year and it was fucking great. He makes On Cinema fucking hilarious.
>>71000338
You're so dumb, you must get a lot of headaches.
>>70996129
Hulu
>>70997841
Start with the podcast. It's so incredibly subtle at the start you can barely tell that it's comedy and it's not even really funny at all. But the slow decline of the show from movies to other things is a treat to behold. Don't want to give anything away.
>>71000411
Gregg Turkington is worthless faggot from a failed noise band and his gimmick comedy routine "HURRR [LAME NON-PUNK CELEBRITY] FUCKED AN ABORTION PENIS BLEEGHGHH HHEHGHGH EGHGH" is genuinely wildly popular in Australia, which says a lot.
It says a lot
>>71000338
This is reddit, this is memes
literally never seen or heard of this guy.
>stop torrenting
>stop using a method of downloading and uploading information
There is nothing wrong with torrenting and it will never cease to exist as an information transfer protocol. Telling people to stop doing it is like telling people to stop learning how to pass notes. You don't unlearn that.
What they should do is find a way to bring media to customers in a way that's competitive to torrenting and limits the way a person can consume the product.
>>71000490
>tfw Australian
damn, caught shitposting
>>70996227
That only applies if you're actually screen recording the videos yourself. You can't torrent what somebody else has up and claim fair use.
But bit torrent isnt piracy... its just a way to share files. I got my last linux distro release via it. Why would he carr about that. He should be telling people to stop pirating shit.
I pirate shit via irc, its cool he doesnt have a problem with that.
>>70999646
The middle men fund the people who make the movie. Did you somehow not know this?
>>70995552
Why didn't he just say that if you torrent his content it will affect his chances of getting another greenlighted show and getting payed so he can continue making content for fans?
No need for a moral argument. Fans will go out of their way to help their favorite artists.
>>70995552
>if you don't pay for our show we can't fund it and these people will lose their jobs
Sorry those people will lose their jobs, but I don't give a fuck about his show, so why should I pay for it? I torrent basically every show I watch, but anything that I stick with that I find enjoyable to continue watching I will support monetarily in some way unless they make it impossible for me to do so (i.e., the only way to support them is buying a cable TV subscription). If they make it impossible for me to easily support only that specific content, or refuse to put their content on a service like Netflix I'm willing to pay for because of all the content I enjoy, then they need to revise their fucking business model anyway and think about whether they truly want my money.
Also, his analogy of motorcycle theft is dumb. It's more like you test drove a motorcycle and then brought it back and said you didn't like it. That guy who said he hated Tim's show probably stopped watching it the moment he figured out he didn't like it,. he surely doesn't continue to watch every episode to this day despite hating it. So he tried it, and he didn't like it, and he stopped watching it.
The only reason someone would be against checking out content for free before paying for it is that they're afraid people won't want to pay for it any more. Just like how video game companies stopped releasing demos because a bad demo means less sales on release (even though a great demo means a BOOST in sales at release), or how the movie industry stifles reviews on movies they're afraid will do poorly because bad reviews coming out before the movie will hurt ticket sales (though when they know the movie will review well, the reviews are out weeks ahead of time to boost sales). It's all about keeping the consumers as blind as possible so they'll make the least educated decisions possible and be required to spend money BEFORE forming an opinion.
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>>70995552
"Please don't steal shit I made"
Mother of God
This world is fucked.
They really should just expand on the special features and add special services and metrics which are only available through use of the specified streaming websites and DVDs/BDs.
>>71000863
(2/2)
It's utter shit because the entertainment industry is the ONLY one that does that. You can test drive a car, you can try on clothes, you can sample food and drinks (or have them replaced if you hate them), you can return consumer products within 30 days... but the entertainment industry doesn't want to participate in the modern culture of trying before buying, they want us all to just blindly pay for all media and form an opinion only after our non-refundable money is in their pockets.
>>70995552
It's obviously meta-ironic neo post new sincerity you fucking retarded pleb
>>71000900
It really is stupid that DVD sales and online streaming views don't affect a show's ratings. The TV industry is just an old dinosaur refusing to adapt. Services like Netflix seem to be doing well for themselves, and I NEVER hear them complaining about piracy hurting their bottom dollar. It's always the TV networks who make their content only available via cable subscriptions and hidden behind 10 minutes of ads for every 30 minutes of airtime. Yeah, I wonder why people don't want to deal with that bullshit.
>torrent a movie
>if I like it a bunch I'll buy it.
>I still buy anime and manga to read
>>70997201
Watching it at a friends house doesn't count as a view in any TV metrics system. With Nielson boxes it doesn't matter what the public at large is watching, and with something which allows mass tracking like modern cable, watching at a friends house means one less TV tuned in because two people are sharing.
If we are looking at word of mouth social spread benefits, those same benefits are accomplished through pirating and at a much faster rate.
Give me a viable alternative to torrenting and I might try it. Until then, I don't give a shit.
>>71000996
>Watching it at a friends house doesn't count as a view in any TV metrics system.
Yup, it's retarded. Whenever people have big viewing parties with 20 people over at their house it's seen as a single view.
>>71000902
>you can sample food and drinks (or have them replaced if you hate them)
this is only true for higher end places that make their own food.
7 eleven or mcdonalds wont refund you because their food tastes likes shit, theyll replace one for one, but thats just changing shit for shit
>>70998921
>>70998734
Is it stealing when Microsoft and Apple view the contents of your HDD and use the metrics to make profits off of you or is it your fault for using their software?
Because one can easily argue much of data analytics is piracy for profit by companies, and that's way worse than normal piracy. At least nobody profits with normal piracy.
>>71000751
If I like tim heidecker's series so much I decide to buy it for $20, amazon gets 10, the studio the rest and they pay tim and his crew only $1 of that (yes, made up numbers), that's not enough of a motivation to buy it. I want my money to go where I want it to go or I'm not spending it.
>>70995552
>Will that video finally make you get a job and pay for shit, you lazy bums?
No.
You're going to have to mutilate with stick 2 steel hooks in my back and puppeteer me to get me to pay for your worthless garbage. Fucking greedy jew scum.
>>71001241
In what scenario do you imagine the people funding any given product do not receive a majority share of the return?
>>71001348
Youtube takes 55% of your ad revenue. Dumb fucking imbecile.
>>70998499
>steal a car
>someone loses their car
>pirate some software
>no one loses software
>"stealing"
>Artist trying to exploit new distribution means that allow their work to reach far more people far less expensively with much less effort on their part.
>Expect to make ridiculous sums of money because of this.
Nope. In the days of old artists didn't just paint their one painting or write one play or symphony and live off the royalties for life. They had to keep creating art and worked very hard to find patrons.
Today, any faggot with an internet connection and a camera thinks they're God's gift to the world and deserve to profit in perpetuity from 15 minutes of labor.
Tim has a demeanor that makes him seem like he's being a smartass, but it's really just how he is.
He made a career out of it.
Doug Benson did a similar thing with his 'stoned' looking eyes. His eyes are naturally thay way, but he played it up and made his life around it.
Few people are perceptive enough to realize this
>>71001472
And? They've invested far more than any content creator in that distribution system. If the content creator wants the bulk of the return they are free to develop their own distribution platform.
I'm more curious why you seem to think only people who are capable of self producing are worthy of your money.
>>70995552
>cloning a bread is the same as stealing it from the bakery
Kek, you cucks. In my enitre lifetime i torrented a 2M$ worth of programs, documents and movies. I'm a fucking millionare if you look at it that way.
>>71001546
>I'm more curious why you seem to think only people who are capable of self producing are worthy of your money.
Nigger, if you rely on an establish system that takes a majority of your profits to the point where you have to start a patreon or post your paypal donation link in the description, it's clear that the platform isn't benefiting you. Creating your own website would be a waste of money since nobody goes to individual websites to watch a youtube channel's videos.
>>70997311
If anything, athletes are underpaid
>>70996127
Im' pretty sure, pirates just chilling, enjoying tv show for free while using the money to buy snacks.
>>71001625
No you're not. Information is not considered a financial asset.
>>71001507
>Doug Benson did a similar thing with his 'stoned' looking eyes
jim breuer did the same thing in half baked.
>>70998499
Getting the same data that someone else has is not stealing.
>>71001646
If creating an alternative platform would be of lesser benefit than using an existing one then you're clearly benefiting from the existence of that platform. This is trivially true. Like what are you even fucking talking about?
Pursuing additional means of revenue generation is irrelevant. People sell merchandise and offer additional services that have nothing to do with the core content all the time to increase revenue.
Once again, I don't understand why you've deemed people who have to use established distribution platforms, publishers, and/or studios as undeserving of your money. Just because the people investing the most make the most of the return? This is how virtually every business in the world operates. When you buy anything, most of your money isn't going to the guy who made what you bought, or the guy who designed it. It's going to whoever owns the company, pays for the item to be made, and pays for that item to be designed. Why are you behaving as if media is any different?
>>70995552
I wouldn't even want to steal your garbage, tim
>>70995552
maybe he should adjust to the change in the market. Make his stuff more accessable, and make it easier to pay.
Just look at the Tim-and-Eric knockoff h3h3productions. They're a complete rip-off of the style and humor that T&E are known for, and they make mad bank just by doing Youtube videos weekly and having a Patreon. They have almost no production value, yet their shit still sells because it's the personalities that sell.
In short, wake up old man. Things have changed, and it's time that you change.
>>70995552
torrenting isn't stealing a motorcycle. It's making an exact clone of a motorcycle.
>>70995552
>talk about missing the point you dumb shit. This isn't like someone stealing a motorcycle and then complaining about the way it hums.
It would be like someone stealing a motorcycle and finding out that the bike gave them aids, ass herpes, cancer, and autism and it was designed to do that. The person would then say "Shit I would never pay for all of this fail, I have it for free now and I still don't want it"
>>70995552
Yes well done Tim, well done
H0WEVER
>>70997403
That stupid fucking picture. Every time.
>i didn't have the schoolin' so i can't figure the difference between larceny and theft
I don't give two shits on whether you torrent or not, because hell, I do. But don't be that insufferable faggot that claims its not stealing and tries to imagine up a moral highground. The idea and legality of intellectual property has been around and enforced for 400 years. You faggots aren't discovering something new with torrenting.
