they are all actors too. That is why none of their faces are blurred. You need consent to film someone not in a public place.
>>70963527
They lose that right when they become attempted rapists
>>70963527
>they are all actors too
No shit, sherlock. Only idiots think that show is real. Hence why /b/ loves it so much.
Most of the cases get thrown out because Perverted Justice is a private organization
And some of them actually went to prison too...I wish all actors shared their dedication
If a cop asks you if you want to buy some weed at a concert or something > entrapment, case dismissed right away
If a cop asks you if you want sex, regardless of age > entrapment, case dismissed right away
the only ones that get caught are the ones with shit lawyers.
if you weren't a nonce you wouldn't be posting this
reported to the authorities
>>70963626
this,
cops can't goad you into doing something illegal. Freshman cj major here
>>70963589
Proof? Not calling you retarded or anything, just want to know why you think that its fake
>>70963527
Literally faggot: the OP
>>70963662
>freshman criminal justice major
>freshman
DROPPED.
>>70963667
COPS blurs the faces of people all the time. But virtually everyone on this show gives consent for their likeness to be used on tv? ...bullshit
>>70963667
Because theyre trolling you, you dumb shithead.
I'm confused by entrapment and sting ops.
>A cop cannot sell drugs to you and arrest you.
>but he can pretend to be underage or host a site containing CP and they suddenly can.
I just came to get something to eat!
What did he mean by this?
>>70963793
How about you read the actual law instead of being a speculative cunt?
>>70963707
I think you lose those rights when you become an attempted rapist. Many faces arent blurred out on COPS. Not to mention, some of the folks on both shows are too fucked up and strange to be actors.
>>70963719
Damn, you really convinced me with those hot opinions.
>>70963542
According to who?
>>70963793
if a person searches for CP and gets caught in a honeypot that they decided to join without encouragement, it is not entrapment.
The officer needs to push you to an action you wouldn't seek out yourself. If you are in a chatroom talking to others(not seeking sex) and a "14" y.o. out of the blue tells you that she wants to get fucked right now.. that is entrapment
of course this is old tech, not sure how it would work with IG/SC/Kik/Twitter
>>70963840
>some of the folks on both shows are too fucked up and strange to be actors.
You don't know many actors, do you?
>>70963589
>>70963667
Can confirm. Saw Lorne Armstrong as Willy Loman in a touring production of Death Of A Salesman at my local theater last week
He was electrifying
>>70963840
Troll confirmed. Get raped faggot.
These are home baked!
>>70963886
yeah its not entrapment, but its also a grey area legally speaking, theres a reason most of the guys on the show are never charged.
>>70963991
I think you'll find most of them are actually still serving time, you dumb fuck
Literally the only people who might be "entrapped" are nonces who deserve it.
>>70963914
Why doge sad?
It isn't police "entrapping" them it's Perverted Justice or whatever they're called, so it's not entrapment, loophole if you will.
>>70963890
I see what youre saying, but I doubt its entirely staged. We've seen "reality actors" on stuff like Springer, Maury, etc, and theyre nowhere near as convincing as the folks on TCAP
>>70963914
You just cant stop can you?
>>70964086
Then why did the show get thrown off the airwaves, retard? try researching before blathering on with retarded opinions.
>>70964061
>>70964086
Y kant newfag reply?
>>70964134
So they could continue they're successful crusade undercover?
Duh
>>70963527
>they are all actors too
Did you for a moment think that this is real?
>>70964165
but they haven't. you're an embarrassment to the internet
>>70964134
man shot himself
>>70964140
how do i shot web
>>70964165
>>70964205
http://www.hansenvpredator.com/
"undercover"
"they haven't"
>>70964219
a man who, by proof, was guilty.
do you understand what entrapment is?
>>70964134
Because some old pedophile dude (some mayor or politician or congressman) solicited sex with someone he believed was underrage. The cops found out who he was, cameras were rolling as they pulled up to his house, and the guy killed himself before the cops could get to him.
It was this big dispute that led to the show being cancelled. Some important person got caught out and he killed himself.
>>70963662
well i'm a sophmore cj major and I say they can
>>70963869
the law
>>70964205
Except they have. They just don't seek media publicity now so the ops are able to be conducted as wetworks
Look at the stats for unsolved gun homicides in suburban, white neighborhoods then head to the darknet for confirmation
>>70964261
not entrapment when it's not police doing it
just getting baited.
>>70963626
not true
it falls under 'conspiracy to commit', and one of the parties of a conspiracy can be a cop
provided the person shows intent to actually commit the crime (ie arriving in person) then they can be found guilty
>>70963869
to whom*
>>70964292
The guy had cut contact with the bait and perverted Justice was able to order a SWAT raid on his house anyway with no police investigation.
Perverted Justice basically hijacks law enforcement for its own ends. If it were anyone but pedophiles they were targeting people would be up in arms about this
>>70964358
>that's how you get ants
>>70963707
news reporting can show faces without consent. cops is entertainment.
>>70963816
He was gonna eat out that boy's ass.
This thread is "YouTube Comments section" tier.
>>70964438
What? No way!
>>70964438
Welcome to /reddit/twitter/tumblr/youtube/9gag all rolled into one.
>>70964486
Your familiarity with those sites should preclude you from posting here, you condescending smuglord
>>70963527
>You need consent to film someone not in a public place.
When you enter someone else's home you have no expectation of privacy.
>>70963527
>they are all actors
Was the guy who killed himself just acting?
>>70964438
Yeah pretty much.
>they are all actors
You guys are retarded. The show eventually shut down because one of the people caught ended up killing himself and the family sued NBC
>>70964637
Extremely proficiently
>>70964637
Duh you idiot.
Hes an actor just like all those 9/11 victims. Theyre all living in a bunker at area 51 with tinfoil hats on to protect their minds from the HAARP system that was built by the lizard shapeshiffter.
>>70964613
Belee dat
>>70964664
>killing himself
it was Courtney Love you turboautist
>>70964773
>It's an anon hasn't seen Nick Broomfield's NBC documentary ep
>>70963527
So the crime only exists in the perverts mind?
>can't have sex with underage girl
Didn't have sex
The girl wasn't under age
What's the crime ?
>>70965055
Glad someone finally sees sense
Dubs confirm
My favorite TCAP memes:
1. It's entrapment
2. Very few of them actually got charged
post your favourite predators /tv/
>>70965252
![predator[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qYo113s.jpg "predator[1].jpg")
>>70965252
>>70963626
none of these people are cops, they just keep the cops on call.
also, s far as im aware they never tell the guy "oh yea come over and fuck my underage pussy" or anything like that. they just keep the conversation going, and giving someone your address is about as entrapping as leaving your car unlocked.
>>70963662
You just got btfo, bitch
Because they're entering a home owned by the studio. The second they step in, they're on private property and it's okay to film them without their consent and without censoring them regardless if they were invited. It would be entrapment if the cops went to their house after reading the chat logs.
>>70965252
>>70963991
>theres a reason most of the guys on the show are never charged.
people need to stop spouting this meme imo
>>70964373
>The guy had cut contact with the bait
not exactly, he stopped responding on the day he was supposed to show up, but in the state they were in, he had already provided intent. so they moved in to arrest him.
my brother nearly became a registered sex offender because of this show
he was in some shitty chatroom, jerking off
when a perverted justice guy joins his chat and tells my brother he's a 8 year old girl
my brother told the guy to go blow chris hansen and that perverted justice are all a bunch of repressed homo pedos
well, because my bro didn't instantly stop beating off, and he was dumb enough to have his face on cam, PJ tried to make a case that he was jacking it in front of a kid and they went with it
the case was dismissed, but dyfus now has a file on my brother so he can never get a job that involves children or a background check
by this logic, DSP
should be the worst offender of all time for jerking off in front of 10,000 kids accidentally during a live stream last month
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrOTMeqzgXU
>>70965821
>should be the worst offender of all time for jerking off in front of 10,000 kids accidentally during a live stream last month
w-why did he do that
how
>>70966164
he thought he paused the stream
he didn't
>>70966204
but who stops in the middle of a live stream to jerk off
the risk alone would stop me but what could possibly have gotten him so horny he needed to pause it to wank
>>70966204
And that's why you don't jerk off until you've closed every stream-related program/window and unplug your webcam and microphone completely.
>>70966164
>>70966204
he thought his camera was off. He usually starts the stream with a picture saying the stream will begin shortly for a few minutes to let people join before he starts talking/playing. This means he probably beats off everyday during that prestream message. Just so happened this time he did it and didn't realize his camera wasn't off.
>>70965821
>dsp
>ever having more than 200-300 viewers
10,000 kids my ass you retard
QUICK.
POST BEST VIDEOS
>>70966164
Just a word of warning, I wouldn't anyone to watch this unprepared
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eOVwFvoLSM
>>70963626
But you see, you intiated the contact because you were absentmindly tapping your fingers, a sure sign that you are jonesing for a joint.
Also, you initiated contact because you looked at the cop wearing a short skirt in a longing manner, a sure sign youre looking for a hooker.
>>70965421
Except leaving your car unlocked is enough for insurance companies to deny a claim if someone steals your shit.
>>70963527
>public place
lol
>>70964373
>If it were anyone but pedophiles they were targeting people would be up in arms about this
This is an important point. People lose their fucking minds when it comes to pedos. All rationality and logic go out the window and it suddenly becomes ok to let bias and emotion make the rules.
>every single thread about TCAP is the same retarded 'nod an argument xDDD' posts
kek, it never fails
people are disgusted at you burgers for enjoying this, because
1) you think you have the moral highground = aka the show is public service, serves those pedos right
2) you think Chris Hansen does it out of pure sense of justice when all he cares about is to make something 'original', aka reality show, to get maximum shekels
TCAP is pathetic, and the decoys being so naughty and inciting weird people to act on their pulsions when those fat fucks would never do anything in the first place because no 'real' young boy / girl on the internet would go to such lenght
>b-b-but at least it shows those retards for what they truly are
congrats on caring about retard's lives so much
>>70965614
Which is bullshit.
He stopped contact, indicating he had a change of heart.
I can buy attempted rape or whatever if they arrive at the house playing with themselves. But when they change their mind before anything at all happened...
>>70966580
It's bullshit, but it's hardly something to blame the show for. As far as the law was concerned in the area they were in, he had already broken the law. Them not acting on it at that point wouldn't be right.
>>70966518
I used to work with a bunch of little old ladies. They were pretty much the nicest people youd meet.
However, let some "pedo" be on the news. They all went straight to "they should cut off his dick and shove it down his throat".
As someone that feels "pedos" should be punished for crimes they commit, not just because theyre "pedos". It was pretty awkward when theyd look at me with that "with us or against us" mob mentality. Id always just shake my head and "thats horrible people would do that" while secretly thinking the "pedos" needed help.
>>70966822
I see it all the time online too. You could be the most hard-line objectivist anti-emotional autistic Vulcan neckbeard android who constantly goes on about the tenants of logic and belief in free speech and freedom of thought but as soon as pedophilia is mentioned it becomes "shoot them in the street!!! fuck due process"
It's the most accepted prejudice in society. TCAP is one step away from a show where pedos are hunted and gunned down in the woods on camera. Literally no one would object to a show like that.
>>70965055
solicitation of a minor is a literal thought crime from the way its written. If the perpetrator thinks the victim is underage, its a crime to offer to wear her vagina like a sleeping bag for cocks.
What gets really slimy is when the decoy traps underage people and the decoy has to get rid of them quickly as possible, lest they link themselves to the chatlogs. As doing so would make the decoy guilty of the literal version of the crime (rather than the thought crime version) of solicitation of a minor.
/tv/ always says this movie is about mob mentality and small town hysteria but that's not the point for me. I always saw it as a demonization of sex. Would the townspeople had fucked with the guy is he was accused of murder and not molestation? Doubt it. Why is that? Why is touching someone worse than killing someone? Where did we get the idea that sex is worse than violence?
>>70967393
>Where did we get the idea that sex is worse than violence?
For starters, who the fuck is "we?"
To answer your question, puritans. There's a reason they were driven out of europe.
>>70967113
I have to admit that I'm guilty of going along with the pedo-hate just because the idea of trying to discuss something like that logically with the average human being makes me want to crawl up my own ass and die.
>>70967469
the film takes place in europe and the people don't really seem that close minded
your explanation is weak
>>70967583
apparently puritanism originated in germany.
>>70967469
>For starters, who the fuck is "we?"
It's hard to overcome conditioning or even realize that you've been conditioned. When talking about sex we use words like "innocence" without even thinking about it. Like it's wrong to have sex with children because it robs them of their innocence. What the fuck does that even mean? No one ever challenges that premise. People who haven't had sex are innocent so that means people who have are guilty?
If you've grown up in this society you've been conditioned to believe that sex is bad. That conditioning doesn't go away over night. No one wants to believe they've been "brainwashed" but it's the way it is.
Sex isn't a good or bad thing. But we automatically think that sexualizing something cheapens it or tarnishes it. It's what we've been taught and most of us have no reason to ever think otherwise. The only people who have to challenge that idea are pedophiles.
>>70967393
>I always saw it as a demonization of sex
the demonization of sex with a child
everyone empathizes with children, of course ruining an innocents life is worse than lets say, black on black violence where no one gives a fuck because it's just idiots fighting among themselves.
>>70967113
They should make a show called "To Catch a Crackhead" where the decoy offers everyone free crack/meth/heroin and then when someone shows up and asks for drugs they throw them in prison. I don't see how that's any different.
Oh I forgot...drug addicts are sick people who dindu nuffin and tryna turn their lives around and only accidentally showed up to get drugs on their way to church to help dem kids.
Even if your charges are dropped, it doesn't change the fact the world just watched you get busted for trying to fuck a kid.
How do you even live that down?
>>70967717
>we
again, who, the fuck, is "WE?"
>>70965252
Even if it was real, it'd be illegal to arrest them.
>>70967113
>>70967810
Nobody will ever think pedophilia is okay, nu-males.
Keep whining, though.
>>70967763
The anti-pedo argument is that sex is inherently damaging. That it is so awful that unless your brain has existed long enough to build up the proper mental defenses for sex you will be traumatized by it.
If you think that sex with an adult is good and sex with a child is bad then you are saying that sex is inherently bad.
>>70967828
Western society I suppose. Namely the U.S.
>>70967962
Not exactly. The pedo hate is going off the idea the only way to get a kid naked and a penis inside them is by force or coercion. Which is true in the cases of pedophiles that actually get caught. As they're ugly and stupid.
>>70967962
how can you possibly think pre-pubescent children are supposed to have sex? like i can see an argument for like 13+ but this is just ridiculous
>>70967865
I've accepted this. There won't be any change within my lifetime. The argument is moot but I will still make it while I am able to.
>>70967962
No, man, that's not the point at all. Children have lesser cognitive ability, and they're easily duped and manipulated. It's not that they haven't "built up mental defenses for sex," they just haven't built up much understanding of how to stand up for themselves, how to weigh pros and cons and make an informed decision, and in most cases, how to navigate the emotional landscape of a sexual relationship.
In other words - they're very vulnerable to predatory, manipulative people. It doesn't mean every single person who finds children attractive is that way. But if the laws weren't in place, the guys who ARE creeps would be preying on children like sharks in a school of fish.
>>70968108
fetuses masturbate and have orgasms in the womb.
>>70968186
that means nothing
>>70967865
Are equating being a numale and thinking pedophelia is okay?
>>70968222
it means anyone of any age has the capacity for sexual gratification.
>>70968222
It means you came inside your mom.
>>70968232
Well a lot of pedos on that "find the sex offenders in your city" map/website and on TCAP all look like boilerplate nu-males, my man
>balding
>chubby/fat
>patchy facial hair
>glasses
:^)
>>70968257
what does that have to do with anything. children arent sexually mature until puberty at the minimum
>>70968108
Because sex is just sex. It isn't good or bad.
But your distinction of age 13 leads me to believe you are attempting an evolutionary psychology argument. That puberty is nature's way of telling us to go ahead and have sex.
The thing is we don't need to obey nature. We're not animals. We do things that defy the natural law every day. You are using a computer right now.
Prepubescent children have sex with themselves all the time. They aren't traumatized. Some children have a sex drive. What percentage of children have a sex drive? We don't know. Society doesn't let science investigate.
But the idea that all children are asexual is a myth. We just aren't clear on how incorrect the myth is and we aren't allowed to research it.
>>70968358
Sexual maturity isn't a requirement for having sex.
>>70968358
what does sexual maturity have to do with the capacity to enjoy sex?
>>70967865
I'm disturbed to see a few posts here condoning pedophilia, but at the same time I broadly agree with the posts you quoted. For other crimes, people seem to be able to discuss questions of ethicality/morality, or see that in the cases where mental illness drives people to commit crimes that it might be more beneficial to treat the illness rather than just punish. In the case of pedos, people just lose there minds
>>70968459
>i'm disturbed
no one gives a fuck
>>70968408
how young is too young?
how do you suggest fucking children without it affecting them negatively?
>>70968459
TCAP isn't even about pedophilia. Youngest they ever pretended to be was 12 or something, which is years into puberty for most girls. 12 is pretty young, but if you cry about a 14y/of wanting some, you're just a pathetic sniveling faggot.
>>70968185
>No, man, that's not the point at all. Children have lesser cognitive ability, and they're easily duped and manipulated.
That's a fair argument but it falls apart because you never demonize people who dupe kids out of money, or dupe kids in to believing in santa clause or anything else.
This argument "I'm just against kids being taken advantage of" is just untrue. Kids are taken advantage of in non-sexual ways 50 times before noon and no one says anything. Just watch the commercials on kids cartoon shows. It's only when it's sexual that you have a problem with it.
If kids are easy to manipulate you seem to be okay with it most of the time.
>>70968550
How do you suggest eating out a kid must absolutely positively fuck them up every single time? Do you think it's worked into the laws of physics themselves or something?
>>70963707
Do they also give consent to be registered sex offenders for life?
>>70968556
Yeah, but no one knows the words that mean sexual attraction towards pubescent girls, so they blanket everything from a guy fuckong his girlfriend's toddler to a 19 year old fucking his 17 year old girlfriend with pedophelia
>>70968550
be gentile, make sure they're okay with it, make sure they have many orgasms, limit to oral.
>>70968627
>no one knows the words that mean sexual attraction towards pubescent girls
The words are "perfectly normal."
>>70964653
Wait..is this real!?
>>70968699
of course
everything on 4chan and the internet is completely real
>>70968550
>how do you suggest fucking children without it affecting them negatively?
It can't be done in this society. That's why I said this argument is moot.
Imagine if a child has sex and it is a 100% positive and safe experience. The child feels good about it and is happy. As soon as that child interacts with the rest of society, society will do it's best to make sure the child feels awful about it.
Many kids that had sex say things along the lines of "It felt good and I liked it. I didn't know it was bad until I was told it was bad and then I started feeling bad"
If the sex doesn't traumatize the kid, society will.
>>70968580
it's an equivalent to rape from the perspective that children aren't capable of giving informed consent. I'm pretty sure it's still a crime to take money from children, and anything else that would be a crime against an adult unless they gave consent
>>70968745
>I'm pretty sure it's still a crime to take money from children, and anything else that would be a crime against an adult unless they gave consent
I'm not saying otherwise. What I'm saying is: when was the last time you said something like "People who take money from kids need to be brutally murdered in public!!!"
This would be entrapment
>hi
>hi
>asl?
>14/f/jerkwater
>wow ur too young 4 me
>age is just a number get over here and fuck my underage pussy
>okay
This is not entrapment
>hi
>hi
>all?
>14/f/jerkwater
>mmmm I like em young ;);););)
>okay
>I want to rape you
>ouch
>I want to come meet pls I'm so horny
>uh
>pls I will fug u good
>okay sure but bring condoms and rum
>okay anything for you my underage sweetheart I am going to fuck u all nite!!!
The show isn't entrapment. Stop condoning paedophilia.
>>70966518
Well of course. Thats why pedos get killed and brutally raped in prisons.
Having sex with kids is worse than killing.
>>70969017
The top one isn't entrapment either.
>>70968735
Just like masturbation.
I had no negative thoughts about it the first time I did it. Then I started jearing about how bad it was from Christians and shit.
To this day I cant jerk off without feeling dirty after doing it.
i bet OP is a weeb too
>>70969017
>>70969086
They're both entrapment.
The second one just obfuscates the entrapment a little more. But as soon as the decoy says "sure come to my house" its entrapment.
>>70969105
>To this day I cant jerk off without feeling dirty after doing it.
Same here. Thankfully that reduces my refractory period by arousing me even more.
>initiate sexual talks with someone they believe to be 13
>drive 5 hours to meet the 13 year old
>bring alcohol and condoms
>some how still entrapment?
There's literally nothing biologically wrong with wanting to reproduce with 12+ year old girls. It's perfectly natural to want to have sex with girls just starting after puberty. Is it right to do so with say, a 13 year old girl? No she's too young for a decision like that It's only wrong in the eyes of the law. Obviously everyone on this show who is a sexual predator rightfully belongs in jail. But it's not wrong to want to have sex with young girls.
>>70968950
yeah I guess I misunderstood your point. Society takes particular exception to sex crimes in general, so I suppose it's not surprising how much more condemnation child molestation gets relatively. It is strange that the reaction to other things which should be exactly the same, like sexually abusing people with mental disabilities, isn't quite as heated.
>>70969017
Everything is entrapment when your boner is at risk
>>70969233
lol its almost like you're being cucked by yourself
>>70969191
It's not entrapment if it's not a law enforcement officer doing it, you stupid pedophilic nu-male armchair lawyer.
>>70967836
It was inevitable
>>70969254
Who are you trying to convince?
WHAT! No way?
>>70969299
>It is strange that the reaction to other things which should be exactly the same, like sexually abusing people with mental disabilities, isn't quite as heated.
True. In fact, that's a completely different kind of reality show.
The USA is weird. Up til the girl's 18th birthday you are supposed to pretend that she isn't attractive at all, god forbid if you say anything. Look at the media, they show pictures of teens in skimpy outfits and suggestive poses, but will then spit on you if you say she has nice tits or something.
>>70969539
It's stupid too since 16 is completely legal in some states.
entrapment is when a cop makes you do something you wouldn't have already done
these people would have still gone to the house if it wasnt hansen there
>>70969539Have you been to the USA before?
I seriously doubt it.
>>70963527
who are you, who are so wise in the ways of law?
>>70969349
Perverted Justice are deputized by the local police in some of the episodes, but it's just not entrapment. All of the chats that brought them convictions are on their website and they all go like this >>70969017
>u know that ur pussy will bleed when i pop ur cherry
>o dang
>would you want me to come there and rape you?
>k
>are you going to be okay with me sliding my cock into your tight pussy after the dog fills it with his cum?
>ya it wuld b kewl 2 try
If only people would read the chats or at least watch the show they're supposedly experts on, they'd see how uninterested the decoys are in sex
nah, Rob ((Feinstein)) is actually a pretty well known wrestling promoter and he was caught so its definitely real.
>>70964063
Because the monkeys are being mean and he is the lowest in the pack
>>70969592
This scene is iconic and represents how Americans think people who like teens are creeps.
>>70969349
entrapment still applies if you are coerced by someone directly assisting the police, which the production company arguably are. Obviously though, the chatlogs show that the guys couldn't be called coerced
>>70969665
>Perverted Justice are deputized by the local police in some of the episodes, but it's just not entrapment
1.) You got a source for that?
2.) Unless the person inviting the pedo over is also a LEO/"deputized" LEO, it's not entrapment.
------------
Scenario 1:
>you message my 13 year old sister on faceberg: "hey you wanna see my bologna pony"
>I see the message and bait you into coming over
>Call my friend's dad who's a sherriff's deputy and get him to hide in my backyard with the gate open
>You come over and it's not my 13 year old sister waiting for you, it's a fully-grown 85lb labrador baring his fangs waiting
>You run out the foyer into the porch
>My friend's dad pops out of the side of the house's yard and arrests you as you're trying to get your mom's van started
Not entrapment
-----------------
Scenario 2:
>you message my 13 year old sister on faceberg: "hey you wanna see my bologna pony"
>I see the message, and wait on it
>Call my friend's dad up and ask him to deputize me
>Bait you into coming over "hey I love older guys and anime come hang out, I'm home alone for the next 4 hours :)"
>Arrest you for attempting to solicit a minor
That's entrapment
>>70969772
Again, you have to define "directly assisting the police". They can pretend to have plausible deniability if they say that the police just "happened" to be parked one house down monitoring everything in a mobile command unit.
I don't know why pedos think they're smarter than everyone else
>>70969759
TBF most guys who like teens are creeps. But so are most guys who like asians. And most guys who like milfs. Most guys are creeps.
>>70969834
>And most guys who like milfs.
Why must you hurt me so
>>70969832
>You got a source for that?
Yeah, the show we're talking about that you've never watched. I'm pretty sure they mention it in the Ohio episode.
>>70969834
But there is a belief that liking teens is inherently creepy.
>>70969886
So you don't have a source for that.
>>70969832
I'm not condoning pedos or saying that those on TCAP were entrapped. I'm just correcting you when you say that someone has to be a police officer for it to become a case of entrapment
>>70969576
No they wouldnt. The only reason theyre there is because the decoy talked to them.
>>70964374
>>70969832
>I don't know why pedos think they're smarter than everyone else
For the record I haven't been arguing about what constitutes entrapment. I've been arguing that pedophilia isn't wrong in the first place.
(btw I know it's technically ephebophilia that the show deals with but getting pedantic about the technical terms just makes one sound autistic.)
>>70969914
http://articles.latimes.com/2006/apr/26/entertainment/et-dateline26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkQ3lhylIrE
>In one operation in Greenville, Ohio, featured in tonight's program, the local sheriff's department went further and deputized members of Perverted Justice so they could use the evidence they gathered.
>>70970082
>I've been arguing that pedophilia isn't wrong in the first place.If being nonwhite (something one cannot control) is wrong, then pedophilia (something "you can't control") should be wrong too
>>70970097
But were the people on chat deputized? This is the difference between a jewish lawyer who'll get you acquitted and an Eternal Anglo lawyer who'll get you 45 years of probation
>>70970097
>noodle wordplay
fuckin poet this guy
>>70964911
>>70969665
> thatd be kewl to try
Totally uninterested.
A real "innocent child" would be "ewww wtf" *disconnected*
>>70970200
mite b cool
>>70969834
> most guys are creeps
Excuse me, my privilege is showing.
>>70969574
where in the USA is a 16 year old legal?
>>70970134
http://indianalawblog.com/archives/2006/04/law_peverted_ju.html
Why would they deputize some random dudes who don't have anything to do with the chat? Why don't you just watch the show?
>>70970336
Most states. It's just California and New York where the age of consent is 18. And since those are the only states that matter everyone just thinks it's 18 for the rest of the country. But states with an aoc of 18 are in the minority.
>>70970353
Because there's logistic and ancillary roles that go into that sort of operation, not just "here's a house and a laptop lol, oh btw there's an RV of sherriffs deputies outside".
I've seen the show multiple times, don't try and shift the goalposts on me
>>70969574
>16 is completely legal in some states.
Not really. Anyone under 18 is still under control of their parents. In states where 16 is the legal age of consent, the parents can still charge you with statutory rape if they find out and disapprove because legally someone under 18 can't provide independent consent and their parents' consent or non-consent trumps everything because until you're 18 you're basically not legally a person.
>>70970441
Yeah, it was controversial, but they really needed to deputize the catering guy.
>>70970413
Here in az we have it set up with a 2 year discrepancy. If you're 18 you can bang a 16 year old and if you're 19 you can bang a 17 year old.
>>70970543
I was thinking more like the guys who aren't on chat who are just helping out the sherriffs
Nice reddit snark though, upvoted
>>70970577
This is actually the most common underage consent law.
>>70970442
> In states where 16 is the legal age of consent, the parents can still charge you with statutory rape
this actually happened to a friend of mine kek. The girl's parents dropped it pretty quickly after they were reminded that he was also 18 and their daughter committed the same crime
>>70970413
New York is 17.
http://www.ageofconsent.us/
>>70970577
Yeah they're called romeo and julliet laws. There's one on the california law books too that states that it's legal for an 18 year old to have sex with a 16 year old but only if the GUY is 18. It doesn't allow 18 year old girls to have sex with 16 year olds.
It's hilarious when anon talks about consent laws because there are many different types and levels of consent laws. There's loopholes and qualifications and laws that contradict other laws. It's pretty all over the place really.
But what it comes down to is: who is pressing charges? Statutory rape is usually only charged when the parents of the girl don't like the guy that she fucked. Otherwise most people don't care about teenagers having sex because most people had sex as teenagers.
If the law were really serious about underage sex there would be police raids on motels right after prom.
>>70963527
>all these incorrect definitions of entrapment
Entrapment is when you use your position to FORCE someone to do something illegal. A good example would be a cop picking a hooker up off the street and telling her hes going to bring her in for prostitution, unless she sucks his dick.
What this show did was offer these pedos a chance to commit a crime. Its not the fault of the police if they actually go through with it. They weren't being forced. They made the choice. They didn't have to show up. They didn't have to walk in. They wanted that loli pussy and they came for it.
The right and wrong of tempting these fucks is another matter. Still doesn't change the fact they showed up in chat rooms looking for little girls.
>>70968605
Because you're ugly
If consent laws were actually enforced you wouldn't be able to masturbate before 18. You engaged in sexual activity that you were not able to consent to.
>>70970926
But they didnt follow through with it.
>>70971010
Intent.
They walked into someones home for the purpose of fucking a child.
You're argument is the same as a drug dealer getting caught with 3 kilos of cocaine "B-but I wasn't actually going to sell it!"
>>70971118
Posession of cocaine is illegal.
>>70971187
Soliciting children is illegal.
>>70971244
But why?
Nothing is happening that hurts anyone.
>>70971283
>Possession of [drug] is illegal.
>>But why?
>>Nothing is happening that hurts anyone.
:^)
>>70971283
Based on the premise that sex hurts children. If someone is trying to have sex with one then they are trying to hurt them.
The premise doesn't really hold up under scrutiny tho as this thread has proven.
>>70971348
Possessing something that is restricted is different than thinking of doing a crime.
What youre saying is possession of a thought is illegal.
>>70963527
>>70971403
People are arguing that the entrapment tactics ON THIS SHOW are kind of shady. Not that it's OK to fuck kids. I don't think this thread has "proven" your point
>>70968605
you would have been fine with your daddy putting his dick in your mouth i guess?
ITS A PRANK DUDE
>>70967393
You're fucking retarded. If anything we should get a movie that demonizes sex, as everything today is sex sex sex.
>>70971409
Its not possession of a thought. Its the threat of action. If you send someone a message saying you're going to kill them, the police will take that seriously and arrest your ass for it. If you tell a little girl you're going to come fuck the shit out of her, and then you actually show up, the police are going to arrest you.
>>70971466
>People are arguing that the entrapment tactics ON THIS SHOW are kind of shady. Not that it's OK to fuck kids.
It's been both actually. Like I said before I don't care about splitting hairs about the legal definition of entrapment. I just set out to prove that pedophilia isn't wrong and that it's overly demonized. And that sex isn't inherently harmful. No one in this thread has had a successful counter argument yet.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/19486893/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/da-refuses-prosecute-catch-predator-cases/
There is a reason why alot of these guys get off the hook.
The police can't just go on the street and try to sell drugs (or fake drugs) to people. That is essentially what is happening here.
>>70971637
>The police can't just go on the street and try to sell drugs (or fake drugs) to people.
But that's exactly how it works, goddamn
>>70971620
Til me telling the 12 year olds on xbox live to suck my dick makes me a sexual predator.
>>70964438
Your image is 9gag tier but oh well.
>>70967469
>>70967717
>>70967828
>who the fuck is "WE?"
Black "people"
>>70971727
Technically it does.
The fuck do you want a 12 year old to suck your dick for?
>>70971727
You are literally instructing a child to perform oral sex on you.
>>70971678
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_v._United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._United_States
http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2008/10/entrapment.aspx
Daily reminder that finding girls that are well into puberty attractive is completely natural.
>>70968627
>>70968689
hebephile
>>70971783
>>70971803
Im just telling everyone. Not specifically the 12 year olds.
Dont know why theyre playing games rated m anyways.
>>70963527
The ones they show gave consent to be shown in exchange for reduced sentences.
>>70972008
don't think so m8
>>70971836
This shitty evo psych argument.
Look kid it's great that you're discovering how evolution and biology work. It's exciting that you're discovering links between human behavior and the animal kingdom.
But evolution doesn't dictate reality. We are not animals. We can think and reason and we do not need to be beholden to evolution any more.
But if you wanna get in to it fine. Being attracted to a mate on a biological level is only about 50% of what attraction is. You're completely ignoring the whole psychological aspect of what decides what you are and are not attracted to.
What is and isn't "natural" by your dubious definition does not matter when it comes to attraction.
>>70972223
>the whole psychological aspect of what decides what you are and are not attracted to.
citation needed
>>70963527
>private house
>public place
you didnt think this one through did you?
>>70971940
>If your under-18 child has an account and you didn't help set it up, he or she is registered as an adult.
Don't worry, you're telling adults to suck your dick even if they're age 12.
Parents fault for letting them register as an adult.
Also, you're an adult on a plane at age 12, so you can fuck kids in airplane bathrooms and be fine.
>>70972223
>we are not animals
False
>we can think and reason and we do not need to be beholden to evolution anymore
Thinking and reason are products of evolution.
>You're completely ignoring the whole psychological aspect
Psychological aspects are a product of evolution
>>70972223
>We can think and reason and we do not need to be beholden to evolution any more.
So you failed that section in school huh?
Evolution doesn't stop just because we can think. Older and stronger men have been taking young wives and mates for millions of years and still do in many parts of the world ,but you think just because we've been in a society that views 18 as the new 13 everyone's bodies and minds have to adapt to this? Just because you and some other people have an idea of how everyone should behave doesn't mean that everyone else feels the same.
>>70972653
Are you really going to try to claim that your amputee pony fetish is biological in origin?
>>70972703
Fine. But by that reasoning attraction to prepubescents is just as natural as attraction to postpubescents
>>70963886
>"14" y.o. out of the blue tells you that she wants to get fucked right now.. that is entrapment
It's not.
>>70972810
but it isn't
one has an evolutionary purpose an is the result of proper development, the other is a biological/psychodevelopmental mistake.
>>70972711
You're responding to a pro-pedophilia argument in case you haven't noticed
>>70972897
>Psychological aspects are a product of evolution
Your words not mine. There are no mistakes in evolution.
>>70972997
Of course there are mistakes in evolution you fucking retard, natural selection weeds them out.
>>70963527
>amerifats think this is a valid use of a judicial system
just stop pretending at this point and rename yourselfs the christian extremists state of america
Also LOL @ you neckbeard edgelords defending the argument that "If it's natural it's ok"
But if a hippie vegan makes the exact same argument you lose your shit.
>>70972997
are you literally retarded?
next you're telling me downies are an intentional product of evolution.
mistakes happen anon.
>>70973034
Those aren't mistakes. That's literally what the process of evolution is.
>>70973112
I don't think you know what evolution is, or down syndrome.
>>70973105
it's ok if there is no victim
if a 15 year old consentually has sex with a 21 year old, there should be no problem.
if a 18 year old forces himself on a 18 year old, there is a problem.
>>70973112
Evolution is the process of creating variance and removing the ones that dont work. If those "mistakes" don't exist to begin with you can't really call it evolution can you?
You're assigning a negative connotation to variance witch is a neutral part of a neutral process called evolution. It is neither good nor bad. It just is.
>>70973171
l don't think you do
down syndrome isn't caused by evolution
that was my point
>>70973246
Legally the 15 year old can't consent to sex. Which means even if the 15 year old wants it, even if the 15 year old initiates it, even if the 15 year old rapes the other party the 15 year is still a victim of statutory rape.
>>70973267
do you understand how nondisjunction works?
if anything is to be defined as a mistake, that would be it.
also l didn't make a moral judgement about it.
>>70970926
that sounds more like rape than entrapment
>>70973288
>Legally
there we go
your argument please?
>>70973441
was intended for>>70973357
>>70973288
It ain't a mistake of evolution either you moron.
>>70973246
Rape is a natural phenomenon that occurs because of evolution. By your own definition it's not a problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyENETReiUw
>>70973441
I don't know what you're asking for.
>>70973585
an argument that doesn't consist entirely of "state says it's wrong, so it's wrong"
>>70963626
>the only ones that get caught are the ones with shit lawyers.
This. all you have to is deny and get with your lawyer. However, most people felt they had to come clean on the spot(after leaving the house) to get a lesser punishment. Even if you showed up with liquor, weed, condoms, and a disney movie, if you said nothing until you could get an attorney then you werent charged with anything.
