Just got back from pic related and really enjoyed it, just as good as the first one for me.
What did /TV/ think of it and what are some other horror films that are similar? I'm wanting more story focused horrors like these films, rather than gore/trying to make you jump constantly.
>>70930185
Was it modern day horrorkino?
As much as I enjoyed both Conjuring movies, they aren't exempt from being riddled with jump scares.
>>70930231
True, they have a fair few jump scares, just not as much as films like Sinister. I felt like that was just constant jump scares, or building up to a scare rather than having any decent plot.
>>70930327
Sinister depended on jump scares, but they were handled so retardedly.
The big scene in the middle, I think it was supposed to be centerpiece for the whole movie. There's a ghost face that appears right next to the head of the protagonist, but he doesn't see her. Maybe a person would be so startled that they jumped. I just thought it was retarded.
Then over the next five minutes, the protagonist is walking around his house, as ghosts appear behind him, running around in slow motion, and disappearing right before he turns around sees them.
I felt like I was watching a combination of a 90s music video and a Bugs Bunny cartoon, where Bugs Bunny does something funny behind Elmer Fudd's back, and then stops the second Elmer turns around to look. It wasn't scary, it wasn't spooky, it was just fucking retarded.
>>70930185
I enjoyed it quite a bit too.
>>70930185
Mind elaborating using your own words?
>>70930185
I just watched it today too op, the only part I didn't like was whenever they showed that crooked man CG monster thing, looked very cartoony and out of place.
>>70930185
>just as good as the first one
So...awful then
>>70930784
the crooked man was mostly practical effects, same for the demon
>>70930185
I only caught the first few minutes so far but I groaned out loud when they opened at the Amityville house. How much of it is spent there? Because I'm so fucking sick of that story.
>>70930847
Is it like some sort of puppet? It looked like something out of a stop motion picture.
>>70930889
Not long at all, and most of it is a dream sequence setting up the rest of the film, then it quickly moves onto the Enfield Haunting.
>>70930723
It felt quite tense and atmospheric throughout and the jumpscares that were there didn't occur every few minutes like other horrors seem to do now. The plot was decent and I enjoyed the Enfield Haunting as a case, but that's probably because I'm British and grew up in a house like in the film. It also helped that I'd read and listened to a lot to do with the actual haunting so it was interesting to see it played out on screen
>>70930784
I kinda liked the Crooked Man monster, I felt it was supposed to look all cartoony and weird since it had come from the spinning motion toy.
Anyone else see the words VARAK on the bookcase early on in the film? I guess a kids alphabet bracelet also spelled out varak. Cool little touch
>>70930847
So when that dog turned into the crooked man that was practical? Eh no way. I don't believe it.
Maybe the end, when the crooked man bursts out of the closet,that might have been practical. Maybe.
Also off course the demon is practical. It's a guy with make up on. Why would it be CG. Only the end when it gets damned to hell and it shows its true face is CG.
>>70930847
They used a really tall skinny man for that character.
>>70931132
I thought I saw it too. But wasn't sure. GF didn't see it. Nice to know other people saw it.
>>70931038
There's an actor listed as the crooked man (not a voice actor).
Now that I've checked the imdb page, he's a Spanish actor who actually played pic related in REC and the mom ghost in Mama.
http://m.imdb.com/name/nm2306701/?ref_=m_ttfcd_cl15
>>70930231
Yes but The Conjuring has jump scares that are earned and function within the scene's development.
It's not like two characters are walking down a hallway and then BAM AAAAAAAA jk it's just a cat
Wan actually builds tension so the jump scare is the release of tension that has already been earned.
Case in point: the scene where she's alone watching TV by herself. I personally think that his appearance over her shoulder at the end of that is one of the greatest jump scares ever.
Jump scares aren't inherently bad they're just bad when lazily inserted and not earned.
>>70931038
He's a "body actor" who was apparently able to create that stuttering effect without any computer effects - which is pretty insane. I also thought his motion had been altered somehow - it just looked so animated. I would love to see that scene again.
Dude did some motion tests for the Mama in Mama... and they're scarier than the actual movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq5j6Zt6VHg
Those are also movement tests that have not been altered digitally... kind of insane. He is like a shitty j horror come to life... and I mean that in the best way possible.
>>70931253
It has too many though.
Some not so earned.
>My house!
being one of them.
The other being the literal
"BOO" with the firetruck gag.
>>70931144
Yeah him emerging from the dog (I did not like that concept or execution) was definitely CG. But apparently after that he is mostly if not all practical. I really need to see that scene again because I thought he was CG... but Wan said in an interview that he is practical.
Also I didn't like the CGI when the demon got banished to hell either. Other than that I thought the effects were all fucking fantastic. Apart from the Crooked Man dog emergence and the demon banishing everything looked absolutely perfect in camera.
>>70930185
Jumpscares : the movie
>>70931339
You didn't think him appearing over her shoulder next to the TV was earned? The fuck, mate? (Is that what you're referring to with "my house!"
That scene was bloody perfect. It masterfully focuses your attention so much on that chair that you are not expecting him to be somewhere else. I really think that scene is going to go down among the best scares ever.
I wouldn't call the firetruck gag a jump scare either... there's just a music cue when it rolls back out, but you are kind of expecting it to do so. It's just a spooky cue.Maybe you're just jumpy.
>it's a ghost flick
>>70931379
True, I loved it too. The demon looked awesome. I also loved the transformation of the background/characters during the "hold water in your mouth to prove its not you".
>>70931427
I'm a pussy : the post
I like to read up on the real events and true story webpages comparing the films to what happend.
Horror films usually wier far from what happend, see: haunting in conneticut, the exorcism of emily rose and the conjouring 1-2
>>70931456
YES. That shot was amazing. It was so subtle I didn't notice her change at first... then I saw that she kind of looked like the old man. Then I was looking closely to see when she transformed back into herself... but I didn't even see it! It was so subtle... really spooky.
That scene, the TV scene, and the painting scene were worth the price of admission alone.
>>70931496
Yeah, they probably just talked to the girl and went home. No demon on the wall bullshit
>>70931438
No. I liked him sitting in his chair when the tv turned black. That was really good. That scene ended with his demonized face appearing and going "my house!". That was cheap.
The firetruck scene ended with a literal "boo!" sound together with the gigantic bass blowing up my theaters speakers. That alone with no pay off what so ever was cheap too.
But you're right. I dislike most jump scares.I like creepy atmosphere and subtle things.
Somehow I felt like the conjuring 1 had less jump scares.
>>70931521
Oh that painting scene! That creepy shadow merging with the painting was a great find.
>>70931547
They did, they were there for one day. Basically the stuff in the move where they think is all a hoax is probably true, nothing else.
>>70930185
absolutely LOVED it!
also that Elvis scene gave me feels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGJTaP6anOU
>>70931588
What do you mean by cheap, exactly?
Again, if a scare comes out of absolutely nowhere, I'd call that cheap.
But this scare was so carefully executed - having him pop out was not cheap at all. The scene had been building and building to his emergence - and then having him come out of somewhere unexpected was SCARY!!
I liked thetwist that the old man's ghost was a prisoner enslaved to a higher demonbut I thought the over-the-shoulder "my house" jump scare seemed a bit cheap at the time. The fire engine also seemed a bit cliched (we've seen that type of scare a bit too often).
Also, I didn't find Valak that scary in the end. Nuns don't scare me. Not bad though.
http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/conjuring-2-enfield-poltergeist/
>>70931628
When the camera slowly panned in on the painting and it started to look like the actual demon's face I legit got chills. And then when she turned on the lamp and suddenly it just looked like a normal painting - shivers again. Great scene.
I preferred the subtlety and pacing of the first one compared to the second.
I felt the second may have been a bit long, making them feel they needed to cram plenty of jump scares (almost unnecessarily) to keep the audience engaged till the end.
Still really enjoyed it though.
>>70931715
By 30 min in, i thought: Thats it? Just a old guy being a cunt? Just tell him to fuck off. Then the demon kicks in and she just tell him to fuck off.
>>70930185
This movie was about an hour too long. Seriously, most of it was just padding, boring padding. I wouldn't mind that as much if the actual plot and demons/ghosts were spooky.
The plot had some major holes in it too. After they lock the room upstairs, one of them goes inside and sees all the crosses. The man asks, "Do they work?" and the mother responds with no. But later, they do work against the ghost, and after that, they don't work again when the ghost flips the crosses. The entire movie was filled with stupid bullshit like that.
The effects in the movie were garbage too. The snow looked like shit and you could barely tell that it was supposed to be winter. The crooked man looked awful, and then he chases Billy in slow motion, that made me roll my eyes.
The opening scene was ok
>>70931132
I remember looking at those and thinking it was just random letters!
>>70931715
>http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/conjuring-2-enfield-poltergeist/
Holy shit could this bitch look more British if she tried? She looks like an offensive caricature of a British person
>>70931700
Cheap as in the scene would have been better just ending or doing subtle like the chair scene again. Him standing behind her or putting his hand on her shoulder. You know this type of scene would work without the foreshadowing. Examplr is the demon suddenly appearing behind the guy in insidious. I liked that. This was the equivelant of overkill in 1 scene. Its hard to explain. Im glad you liked it though.
Dont get me wrong, I loved the conjuring 2. Just these 2 scenes seemed to be the weaker ones to me.
>>70930185
>going to see a comfy horror sequel
>movie starts
>"oh boy this should be good!"
>British people come on screen
>"yuck"
>British people continue to waste screen time
>"wtf??"
> I realize the plot revolves around British people
>consider leaving but stay
>its another patrick wilson plays an elvis song on the guitar movie
>movie ends
$6 im not gonna see again
>>70931637
True. This is also the most romantic movie I know. Honestly. Those feels at the end.
is Vera qt in this film?
Is she barefoot?
>>70932072
Where does that hate for brits come from?
>>70931637
this. the scene was very emotional for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdnNk13Fm_g
>>70932109
I don't hate brits, but post WW2 England looked like an awful place to live.
>>70932073
>This is also the most romantic movie I know
weird how a horror movie pulls that off.
also I know /tv/ might not like ParanormalActivity but that movie at least to me did a good job of showing a convincing portrayal of a couple. Wasn't as romantic as Conjuring 2 but I did actually care about them and wanted them to make it.
(which is rare in most horror films)
>>70931169
I saw them in several places during the dream squeeze, in the bookshelf and also as crayon letters in the kitchen. I thought it was some kind of protection spell first.
??
The Conjuring 1 and 2 were both literally "spooky things move around" for an hour before the main characters come in.
Combined they have maybe 4 interesting scenes, no character development, tropes, cliches, and bad acting.
>>70932100
what's with the drawings of dongs on the wall?
just a typical cock obsessed whore?
The Boy is still probably the best horror release in the past 3 years. Conjuring 2 is pretty good too though.
>>70932169
I think most European post WW2 countries would have been a bad place to live though. Would you have liked it more if they copied the story, keeping everything same but setting it in the US?
>>70932169
well it was raining in almost every scene and it's a horror movie. it's supposed to look depressing.
Also they lived in public housing in a low class suburb/ghetto
>>70932203
I can only nod and agree to that.
>>70932131
wish I wasn't so autistic and could enjoy this kind of thing
>>70931965
The American couple are considerably uglier, I thought. The whole film's been beautified.
>>70932215
This. Jump-scares are babby-tier horror, neither Conjuring movie left any kind of impression on me like pic related did.
>>70932109
The Yanks blame us for dumping them with all those black people when they forget that they were the ones who were constantly moaning for more slaves in the first place.
Am I being punked here? The movie was terrible. I couldn't come up with a more stereotypical horror film. At what point was there any reason to feel any emotion?
There is only one dramatic moment, and that's when the husband decides to go in despite the "prophecy" of his death. That was it, and even that's cliche.
>>70930231
See what this guy said: >>70931253
Jump scares are acceptable when there's actual pay off. Tricking your audience by the "scary thing" just being a cat or the character's friend is cheap.
>>70932279
>nods respectfully back in your direction
>>70932291
to bad man. some chicks in the audience actually started crying during that scene. was quite sweet desu.
I think it was the tone shift from horror to seeing this family moment. You really cared about them and wanted them to survive
>>70932215
I liek the story. it's not the scariest stuff but the characters and story keep me engaged and I do get spooked from time to time. I like this series
>>70932353
what's pic related about?
What's the fire engine scare everyone's talking about? I don't remember it.
I liked this movie. Pretty good.
Based on true event, horror films where no one dies...
Other then that they are ok good
I prefer slahers with a group of teens, lots of tits and nudity. The friday the 13th remake was nice like that.
>>70932481
>what's pic related about?It's about a cult that thinks it can discover what happens after death by torturing people to death. Much deeper than it sounds, DAT FUCKING ENDING omgwtfbbq.
>>70932353
>>70932520
Honestly, I remember enjoying Martyrs as a piece of cinema but I don't remember it having much effect on me either through shock, fear or amazement. I appreciated it but it didn't scare me.
>>70932501
think it means little stutter boys toy that turns on in the middle of the night?
>>70932590
>scare
I wouldn't say ti scared me, although it had lots of scare scenes (more than the Conjuring or as I like to call it, "the Slumbering"). What it did was truly HORRIFY me. The movie itself was profoundly horrific and disturbing, and the ending was brilliantly baffling, and the whole experience of watching and thinking about it still stirs dread in me.
>>70932709
Sorry, anon. I just wasn't so impressed.
Noroi the Curse, Lake Mungo, The Ugly, Dog Soldiers, Cube and Grave Encounters are my favorite modern horrors.
I know my taste is shit
>>70932520
sounds interesting. is is more psychological horror, Saw gore or jumpscares?
>>70932501
Fire truck drives out of his tent in the hallway. You pushes it back in, rolls out again, push in again. Stays there, goes to bed. Fire truck drives into his bed room. Pushes it back in. Stares into (empty) tent. Disembodied voice shouts "BOO", this is jump scare. End scene.
>>70933196
You = he. Damn phone.
>>70933186
Ehhhhh, it has scares and the central theme is pure psychological horror, but there's a fair bit of gore too. Unlike "gore porn" movies, tho the gore serves the plot directly and has more of a horror impact than a squick impact.
>>70932686
Oh, yeah. That was pretty expected and some people still yelled, lol.
I actually like horror movies that have a low rent quality to them. Films that feel like something you shouldnt be watching. Like a snuff film. Or private videos. Dark, oppressing atmosphere but grounded in a reality.
Films like v/h/s, kill list or the poughkepsie tapes
Super polished horror movies like the conjuring are good but I like my horror to feel like its taking you away to a depraved place
>>70933268
>the central theme is pure psychological horror
good I like that
>Unlike "gore porn" movies, tho the gore serves the plot directly and has more of a horror impact than a squick impact
ok definatly watching it then
