do you find this funny?
>>70880628
Who doesn't find condescending preachers hilarious?
You think future historians will quote anonymous users on 4chan to give readers a sense of what it was like to live during this time?
>>70880786
Yes. I hope I'll be able to witness it when I'm a ghost.
not in "ha ha" way
>>70880628
>Liberals twisting the words of the Bible to try to shame Christians into following their narrative.
This is always hilarious.
The Bible says to give voluntarily.
It doesn't say to pull out a gun and put it to someone else's head until they have given an amount you deem "adequate".
>>70880628
>It's a bible-hating leftist using the bible to justify socialism episode.
>>70880876
That thought makes me feel happy.
>>70880628
Yes, hypocrisy is funny
>>70880942
>"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."
Nice try, you pharisee.
>>70880942
>The Bible says to give voluntarily.
Actually it says to give unconditionally. You can pull your head out of ayn rand's ass now.
>>70880786
Will our descendants even want to learn from the mistakes we made?
>>70880942
He is a devout catholic.
Catholics have long been twisting orthodox Christianity around.
>>70881009
>bible-hating
He literally teaches Sunday school.
>>70881009
>Colbert
>bible-hating
pick one
>>70881009
Colbert is a Catholic. And he's right there.
Not that I agree, but Jesus did have a hardon for the poor and downtrodden. I say fuck 'em, but I'm not a Christian. You can't really claim to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and NOT want to help the poor.
>Leftists saying we should make laws based on the Bible.
OK then.
Creationist textbooks in every school, and fags are going to get the shit kicked out of them at every roadside.
Nice job, Liberals. This is what you wanted.
>>70881042
How do you interpret that passage? Genuinely curious.
>>70881083
>>70881094
>le Colbert is le Christian meme
It's a bullshit label he uses to make his dumbass Leftist message sound more valid.
And apparently it has worked on you idiots.
>>70881042
>>70881071
And I'm STILL not hearing anywhere where God is commanding us to force others to give up an amount I deem appropriate or throw them in jail.
>>70881094
>Catholic.
>Not bible-hating.
Just look who's in charge of the church.
>>70881125
He teaches Sunday School, dipshit.
He's a Catholic. You might be thinking of Baptists.
>>70881107
>i don't understand how a reductio works
He's pointing to the hypocrisy of those who favour eg creationism in school, while also favouring regressive taxation policies etc. It's often referred to as 'cafeteria Christianity'.
And nobody would be getting the shit kicked out of them in any case.
>>70881151
>jail
Oh you'll be going somewhere much worse.
It says give to the needy, not fuckfaces who just don't feel like working like shaniqua in her nine kids. I'm not just going to be a slave because the bible says I should be nice.
>>70881112
The quote is simply referring to device. A man who finds satisfaction through his own end, the material, will never have desire for the immaterial. If one rejects the physical, he can then set his heart on the immaterial.
>>70881107
That's the point. Conservatives would love do those things but when it comes to the poor fuck them.
Reminder that all Abrahamic texts are structured around the notion that man lives in a minarchist world.
>>70881206
tell me more
>>70881151
Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, bitch.
In any case, you won't be liable for much in the way of tax if you sell all your possessions and give of them to the poor, which Jesus repeatedly urges his followers to do. Mad deductibles, yo. And you'll be giving the excess away in any case, so it's all good.
>>70881112
>>70881194
> “No one can serve two masters. The person will hate one master and love the other, or will follow one master and refuse to follow the other. You cannot serve both God and worldly riches.
>“So I tell you, don’t worry about the food or drink you need to live, or about the clothes you need for your body. Life is more than food, and the body is more than clothes. Look at the birds in the air. They don’t plant or harvest or store food in barns, but your heavenly Father feeds them. And you know that you are worth much more than the birds. You cannot add any time to your life by worrying about it."
>>70880628
he's right you know.
why is Colbert so based bros?
I find no fault in not loving the poor or serving the needy.
There is more wealth in this country than any other on Earth.
>the needy can help themselves
>the poor will learn to be loved
Wait didn't Jesus said that you should love your neighbour or something like that? Your retarded I HATE EVERYONE WHO ISN'T WHITE! FAGS AND NIGGERS SHOULD BE SHOT ON SIGHT AMIRITE edgy bullshit doesn't really fit
>>70880628
The people who wrote this and fed it to this soulless money grubbing piece of shit...
They don't remotely care about even the notion of god and neither does he.
This site is littered with self-loathing atheists pretending to be Christian just for the memes.
>>70881191
This.
But this thread is full of cucks and Berniefaggots, so logic won't matter much here.
>>70881263
wihlsb?
>>70881238
>taking the bible literally
Lmao
>>70881225
>Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, bitch.
I live in a democracy.
I and the other voters get to decide "what is Caesar's".
Next?
>>70881294
Different books lend to different methods of reading. Some are meant to be reflective, some as historical. The passage anon quoted is clearly meant to be instructional
>>70881191
>It says give to the needy
So agitate for additional foreign aid. Join the peace corps. Get right with the Lord.
>>70881191
You could give to people you personally know are needy, if you did some research you could do this on a large scale
But you won't do that
Nice try hypocrite
>>70881314
we already decided
try and change it retard
>>70881263
>Colbert
>based
>ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L_Wmeg7OTU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qffCO1b-7Js
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvGWhcptxO0
He is a Liberal cuckold through and through.
Has been since Day 1.
>>70881314
>I and the other voters get to decide "what is Caesar's".
Exactly? So you should, in line with Jesus' commands, be voting for significant redistribution of wealth.
>>70881376
>try and change it retard
We have and we will.
Enjoy losing you welfare.
>>70881363
>implying high school summerfag NEETs have anything to give
>>70881191
I pray a lot, and Jesus told me that he actually hated niggers, and didn't even consider them people, so any taxes that go towards "mo money fo dem pograms" are not just in the eyes of the Lord.
>>70881191
I cant wait to take everything from you can give it to someone more deserving
you are so weak and scared that you cower in a ball screaming at the world top not take things from you while other people starve and die
It's going to be so fun to watch you wither and fade away
>>70881392
>Jesus said to "redistribute the wealth"
AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Fucking Commies trying to rewrite the Bible.
>>70881151
Jesus isn't commanding anyone to do anything, but he says constantly that seeking happiness in material wealth is useless. To me, any person with a good understanding of that would care little for possessions, i.e. would care little for having more/giving away what's not needed in order to help others.
I am a Catholic, like Colbert, and I say FUCK this country.
It was founded by atheists; deists were basically atheists back in the day. It was founded by atheists, and it was also founded by slave-owners. Who could own another human being as property and still claim to be a Christian? All 'Christian' slave-owners are the Devil's own soldiers.
Time and time again the United States has acted against the interests of Christianity. It has thwarted the Church of Rome, the one true Church. It has actively persecuted those fighting for the oppressed, whom Christ loves. Its economic system, unrestrained capitalism, hates the poor and the lowly, the treasures of the Church.
So fuck the United States. God curse the United States. May Christ break the United States like Bane breaking Batman. May Jesus Christ, the Son of God who is God, bring this whole rotten country low, and may all who serve it suffer in his name. Amen.
A gay Marxist understood more than any American conservative ever could.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxbzup16Wng
>>70881395
you haven't changed shit and I'm not the one on govt neetbux here
nice projection tho
Reminder that the average american retard thinks that poor people are poor because they're lazy. He also thinks the pathetic amount of money he has was earned without any help from anybody at all ever. He also thinks that by spreading his ass wide open for his millionaires masters they will make him one too.
jesus said help the poor, not give your income to the government to help them for you
>>70881165
>Catholic
Catholics are almost as bad as the jews with all the self-hate and cuck shit. The pope is also a dirty commie wetback.
>/tv/
>a board containing a lot of legitimate actual NEET's that are on welfare or autismbux, and unironically call people "wagies" and "wagecucks" for having a job
>a board that also just so happens to be very pro-taxes and pro-wealth-redistribution
What a shock. I'm sure the two are TOTALLY unrelated though.
>>70881451
Church is the enemy of Christ, fuck off Vaticantard
>>70881464
>you haven't changed shit
I hope your ass is ready for the next time a non-Leftist gets into the Whitehouse.
Your free ride ends once taxes go down.
>>70881470
>>70881434
Oh wow, look at this power-fantasy.
You sound like some faggot stormfronter talking about how he can't wait for "the day of the rope".
Please inform me how you are going to take all his possessions away.
I'm genuinely interested.
>helping the poor and needy means giving all your money to the government to fuel wars,and times and times again proven inept government bureaucracy
Liberals actually believe this too
>>70881221
For example, atonement for sins in the book of sandnigger may include freeing a slave. Many traditions in the Quran are influenced by the code of Hammurabi, so a lot of it has to do with paying a certain amount in legal court or to the person you transgressed to make up for being shitty.
>>70881482
i want a long hair kitty
>>70881467
Class warfare was fabricated to keep people under control.
>>70881435
>Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’
>And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
>And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said: “Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. “Blessed are you who are hungry now, for you shall be satisfied. “Blessed are you who weep now, for you shall laugh. “Blessed are you when people hate you and when they exclude you and revile you and spurn your name as evil, on account of the Son of Man! Rejoice in that day, and leap for joy, for behold, your reward is great in heaven; for so their fathers did to the prophets. “But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation.
>And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.”
>He said also to the man who had invited him, “When you give a dinner or a banquet, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return and you be repaid. But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. For you will be repaid at the resurrection of the just.”
I encourage you to rehearse your speech about the technical exemptions you believe a statutory tax system provides. Maybe Jesus will buy it.
>>70881449
So you're ADMITTING that the Bible and its commands have no bearing on taxes and that people like Colbert are idiots for saying it does?
Glad we're on the same page.
>>70881554
They are a bitch to keep groomed, and they hairball all the fucking time.
Fiscal conservatives believe in charity over government welfare. I don't see what the conflict is here.
>>70881467
Angry socialist spotted.
How's that 50% taxation working out for ya'?
>>70881079
>>70881083
>>70881165
>is a Catholic
>somehow still liberal
>somehow still super wealthy and famous
So, why hasnt he sold all his shit, given away his money and followed Jesus? I mean, were taking the bible literally, right?
You first Mr. Colbert.
>inb4 excuses as to why its "different" for him
>>70880628
I find it counter-factual.
Americans give more than anyone on the face of the fucking planet. Ten times more than a lot of "generous" European nations.
I'm a Canadian. Don't fuck with my brother.
>>70881567
Yes, I believe the more limited the US government, the better
>>70881502
Are you really this new to politics? They're all butt buddies, every last one.
>>70881464
>you haven't changed shit and I'm not the one on govt neetbux here
>nice projection tho
You are literally a disease that kills empires. You have zero worth.
>>70881564
I'm still not getting in your text where it says to FORCE other people to give money to the government and put them in jail if they don't.
Keep trying, though.
I'm sure you'll get it eventually.
>>70881538
Well, they keep getting voted in, don't they? Maybe stop voting for those people. Or maybe stop not voting?
In any case, the issue isn't about whether you should be taxed 100% of your wealth above subsistence level. It's about why, given that you aren't, you're not giving the rest away to the poor and needy. Like Jesus keeps telling you to do.
>>70881611
This.
For all the whinging Europeans do about how "greedy" Americans are, funny how we can flex that charity muscle better than they ever have or ever will.
>>70881593
>50% taxation
>US citizens are literally getting taxed 35% already
I pay more than 15% of my income for health insurance already.
Tax me 15% for programs like health insurance and college tuition.
Itll save me money and everyone will be better off.
>>70880628
Check out Stefan Molyneux's video on that. God fearing Republicans give WAY more to charity than atheist Democrats. Think the video was called "athiests are edgelord faggots".
>>70881567
>So you're ADMITTING that the Bible and its commands have no bearing on taxes
Actually, one of your own boys made the point: it's a democracy and the electorate can influence both the rate of taxation and what those taxes go toward funding. So you should really get on that, get out there and start agitating for higher taxes and expanded welfare programs.
>>70881611
Hello canada
>>70881676
>christian charities
>spreading the word of god instead of actually helping people
What a waste
>>70881530
by voting
Jesus said give to the needy.
Not give to heroin addicts and idiots that had 3 kids by the age of 20.
>>70881693
>>70881672
>US citizens are literally getting taxed 35% already
Where the fuck do you get that information?
Most Americans ($9,226 to $37,450) get taxed at 15% federally.
>>70881701
>mentally ill arent needy
Everyone deserves a second chance, its your job to show them the light and have them born again. You cant pick and choose faggot.
>>70881645
>projecting again
>being this big of a faggot
congrats dude keep postin
fight that good fight lol
>>70881647
>It's about why, given that you aren't, you're not giving the rest away to the poor and needy
If someone believes himself a good Christian it's up to him how much he helps the community and the less fortunate.
What Colbert wants to do is tax you 60% or 70% to fuel inept government bureaucracy. Obamacare for example is a disaster from start to finish, and you don't know how your money gets spent to topple governments and create chaos around the world
>>70881338
According to who? Probably just whenever you agree with a passage it's meant to be taken literally and whenever you disagree you 'read between the lines'
>>70881600
>I mean, were taking the bible literally, right?
Or are we? If Colbert doesn't take it literally, and takes no part of it literally, then he's not being hypocritical. If certain reactionary Christians cleave to literal interpretations of eg Leviticus (though really only certain verses of it) but get all airy-fairy metaphorical when it comes around to their wallets, then they are arguably being hypocritical.
Besides which:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/stephen-colbert-donates-800-000-south-carolina-schools-article-1.2215064
https://forcechange.com/46498/thank-stephen-colbert-for-sizable-charitable-donations/
>>70881714
>federal taxes are the only taxes
>not realizing that every good you buy is taxed several times
Every dollar you spend on a good has been taxed to about 35%
>>70881696
You actually believes that Christian charities don't help people? Seriously consider suicide
>>70881783
Guess it depends on what you consider "helping" is.
>>70881646
>>70881678
>Actually, one of your own boys made the point: it's a democracy and the electorate can influence both the rate of taxation and what those taxes go toward funding. So you should really get on that, get out there and start agitating for higher taxes and expanded welfare programs.
>>70881776
Depends on what you're fucking buying. Taxes for liquor and tobacco in some states are that high, others have lower taxes on those types of goods.
>>70881676
>God fearing Republicans give WAY more to charity
Which charities, though? If it's the local church I'm unimpressed.
>>70881758
>If someone believes himself a good Christian it's up to him how much he helps the community and the less fortunate.
Define 'up to him'. I mean, he has the choice, sure. But we know he has the choice. Why did Jesus repeatedly urge his followers to sell their possessions and give the proceeds to the poor, if the real truth is that that's just optional?
>>70881600
>being a Catholic means you're not allowed to own any possessions or have any profession that exposes you to the public eye
woah which part of the established canon is this from
you could just take the vow of poverty and have no money. you cant be taxed when you have no money, senpai.
>>70881829
>putting money into local charities is a bad thing
Fucking cuckold.
>>70881716
>Everyone deserves a second chance
Not on my money they don't.
>>70881829
It is. They're literally giving money to their local priests so they can buttfuck their alter boy kids behind the tabernacle.
Not that any of you are here to actually think about this issue, but I figured I would contribute this:
https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/ezra-taft-benson_vision-hope-youth-zion/
Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believe that in the end everything God has blessed us with belongs to Him. We believe that when we are all righteous enough we will live by the law of consecration, where all things are commonly owned by the church and distributed according to needs.
Even so, many church leaders continue to take aggressive stances against welfare and socialist policies (not that I am equating the two). The difference is man's liberty to choose. When I pay taxes, I have no control over where that money goes. Certainly if a beggar is before me, I cannot claim that I can judge whether or not he is worthy of my aid- only God can do that, and He has been clear time and time again on the fact that I should give all that I have. I follow this pattern in my personal life: I give time, money and food to those that are in need.
But to claim that I must back the "generosity" of a faceless bureaucracy because I believe in giving loses the meaning behind the commandment to give. When I do this, I abdicate my love for and responsibility towards my fellow man, choosing instead to let the government take care of it. Not only do I lose out on the blessing of being able to help someone around me, the entire world loses out on the sense of community that would come as a result. The givers and the receivers become more and more separated from each other and entitlement grows while the love of man waxes cold.
https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2016/04/that-i-might-draw-all-men-unto-me?lang=eng
>>70881856
>if the real truth is that that's just optional?
Well it is optional. Lead the best life you are able too, that's the message
>>70881881
>greentexting the null of a bare claim is an argument
No, it's not.
>>70881676
What if you live in a state that votes democrat but also has the highest rate of charity work done, and has a majority christian population?
>>70881945
It's actual just a direct refutation of your argument.
Can you explain, why giving money to local charities is worse than putting them into huge national/international ones?
When are liberals going to learn the Republican party (and the dems) are a mash of different groups? Those Evangelical couldn't give less of a shit about taxes, and the ones who want lower taxes don't care about the god stuff.
>Instead of giving to the "poor" themselves, which they claim they are HAPPY to do but never actually do, Liberals spend all this time and effort whining that other people don't give ENOUGH.
Real productive on their part.
If you're so fucking generous, why aren't you leading by example?
There are no laws against giving MORE of your income to the IRS than is required.
>>70881914
>Lead the best life you are able too, that's the message
I really don't think that's the message m8.
>But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation.
> “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.”
>You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me
>Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’
>>70881907
If you're already giving to charity, then you don't have to worry about giving to bureaucrats. It becomes a write-off.
>>70881818
You get state and local taxes taken directly out of your paycheck. Then you pay taxes on goods, like you were saying with some sin taxes being very high.
Dont forget that companies build in the cost of their taxes into goods. And dont forget the companies build in the cost of taxes for their wages for the stores you buy your goods in, or for the consumables they use for transporting those goods.
Everything is taxed, and it adds up in the end with the number being around 35% of every single dollar the average american spends. Its even worse in places like Chicago where they have the highest sales tax in the country.
>>70881990
Because stereotypes are much easier to make strawman arguments with.
>>70881929
underrated image
>>70881764
>sizable donation
>not all of his wealth
Well, well well.
>>70881862
I guess we get to pick and choose which parts of the bible we follow then, huh?
Excuses excuses.
>>70881887
And thats your choice to make.
Personally I dont think greed is worth burning in hell for.
>>70882018
So what's the real taxation rate in socialist countries using this type of calculation?
>>70881567
actually Jesus Christ agreed in giving taxes
Mark 12: 16 - 17
16So they brought it, and He asked them, “Whose likeness is this? And whose inscription?” “Caesar’s,” they answered. 17Then Jesus told them, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.” And they marveled at Him.
Apostle Paul also reiterated that we have to abide by the government rules so long it doesn't go against God's laws
Romans 13: 1- 7
1Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God. 2Consequently, the one who resists authority is opposing what God has set in place, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
3For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the one in authority? Then do what is right, and you will have his approval. 4For he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not carry the sword in vain. He is God’s servant, an agent of retribution to the wrongdoer.
5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to authority, not only to avoid punishment, but also as a matter of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes. For the authorities are God’s servants, who devote themselves to their work. 7Pay everyone what you owe him: taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.
>>70881982
>It's actual just a direct refutation of your argument.
My argument is that largely unregulated local churches (all churches in America are counted as charities) may not represent the most effective use of charitable giving. Many small churches, I aver, are 'charities' in name only. The function of this type of 'charity' is ministry: You put money in one end and you get sermons out the other.
>>70882040
>I guess we get to pick and choose which parts of the bible we follow then, huh?
Sorry! I guess we should get back to stoning gay people to death.
But before we do so, can you point out which Bible passages forbid owning possessions or having public-facing professions?
>>70881076
this
>>70882060
Why do I care?
I just said that another 15% on what I already pay that was being proposed isnt going to be the end of the world like everyone pretends it is.
>>70882053
>not giving money to Heroin addicts
>"greed"
>>70882086
But it might not be just 15%, depending on the actual tax rate, if we adopt socialist taxation policies.
>We should live in a Christian theocracy where the word of God is LITERAL law.
Be very fucking careful what you wish for, Liberals.
>>70881990
>Those Evangelical couldn't give less of a shit about taxes, and the ones who want lower taxes don't care about the god stuff.
That's a pretty bold claim, got anything to back it up? I'm aware of various cohorts within the parties, never seen anything to suggest a clean division between fiscal and social conservatism, a genuine libertarian rump excepting.
>>70882092
What does the bible say about judging people again?
>>70881776
>citation needed
>>70881567
Of course they have no bearing, it's up to every person to do as they see fit. There's no such thing as a christian nation. What I do think is that people who are rich an are against the poor having better opportunities in life because that would somehow have an impact on their wealth shouldn't think of themselves as christians or followers of any kind of faith besides money and greed.
>>70882131
It says to be stupid and do things that are completely illogical because Liberals are trying to guilt-trip you into doing it with peer-pressure.
OH WAIT
My bad. It doesn't say that at all. Silly me.
>>70882127
>>70882127
You really think people place emphasis on the same issues equally? There are single issues voters that couldn't give a shit about anything else. There are people that have views that differ from their party but vote based on what's important to them. They can vote for another party but that just splits the party and gives the other side a win every time.
Conservatives lose literally every argument.
>>70882168
Im pretty sure the bible is very clear on faith vs reason, while also being very clear on judging people, and on the needy.
Mental gymnastics wont change that.
Its up to you on whether you follow your faith strongly or not.
>>70882131
You can judge them but the same measure will be used against you
Matthew 7: 1 - 3
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
>>70882127
Why do you think some candidates perform better in different states during the primaries?
Hillary crushed Bernie in Georgia
Bernie crushed Hillary in New Hampshire
Not all Republicans and Democrats are the same.
>>70882216
>entire thread has been Liberal shit-heads getting BTFO
Whatever you have to tell yourself, I guess.
>>70882040
>Well, well well.
What's your point? I'm not a Christian, and Colbert doesn't seem to be claiming that Christians should sell all their possessions. He's charging many other Christians in America with hypocrisy: They avow themselves Christian and invoke that Christianity in furtherance of stupid shit like opposing gay marriage and giving way too many fucks about which bathrooms people use etc, so we know their Christianity is part of their political identity, but they neglect their Christian duty to the poor.
Jesus' commandments were only brought up because the retard squad ITT expressed skepticism towards the idea that Christianity and charitable giving at least purported to have some nominal overlap.
>>70882234
This entire thread has been angry liberals "judging" people for not throwing enough money at a bloated, corrupt tax-structure.
Guess they need to read this verse as well.
>>70880786
I like to imagine that centuries from now memes will be the only thing historians have to learn about this era.
>>70882246
Heh. No. No, it hasn't.
>>70880628
He is referring to stuff like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdH2DGSXjss
>Christians give to actual charities rather than throwing more and more money at a poorly-structured, poorly maintained bureaucracy
>Liberals are so mad at this that they spend a thread bitching about how "greedy" that is
Great thread, guys.
>>70882178
>>70882236
So what I'm hearing is that No, you do not have any evidence to support the specific claim
>Those Evangelical couldn't give less of a shit about taxes, and the ones who want lower taxes don't care about the god stuff.
Cool beans, will disregard.
>>70881482
In my experiences its usually the NEETS who are the neo cons using intellectual racism to justify ignoring poverty. But thats just me
>>70882268
>liberals caring about the bible
El oh el, maybe you should try reading the bible, dumbass
>>70881074
Have we learned from the mistakes our ancestors made?
People can interpret the gospels and Jesus anyway they like, especially when they are tv celebrities with no relation to the Christian Church.
The true Christians, Orthodox and Catholics, are more concerned about keeping their traditions and keeping the enemies of the faith away.
>>70881191
>Bible says give money to the poor
>But all poor people are evil
>And I don't wanna support evil people
Very, very good
>>70882310
>people on /tv/ unironically shill for Communism
Apparently we haven't learned from our ancestors mistakes.
>>70882246
I know it's difficult for you to imagine a world outside your mothers basement, but cuntservatives are literally the laughing stock of the real world.
>>70882291
>I need a jet plane because we would have to stop doing 90% of the stuff we are doing if I have to use a regular plane ticket.
Holy shit, this is disgusting.
>>70882300
It's conventional wisdom retard. Do you you the entire is literally split between two ideologies and there's no crossover between them?
>>70882337
There you have the answer.
>>70882350
He actually has a point though
>>70882346
>baseless whinging
Yep, you sound pretty butthurt.
Try again next time we have a political thread. Maybe people will take your Leftist drivel more seriously. But probably not.
>>70882353
>makes very specific, very bold claim
>"Hey, can you show me anything to support that?"
>well do you really think that [INSANE STRAWMAN]
No, buddy, I don't think [INSANE STRAWMAN]. Not thinking [INSANE STRAWMAN] doesn't imply [highly specific claim].
I mean if you had something I'd have seen it by now, so you presumably have nothing. Gotta run,ironically I have to go to work.
>You give money to charity? That isn't enough. You have to give more and more money to the corrupt bureaucracy (which, by the way, is controlled by Liberals like me), or you're a greedy asshole.
Great argument.
Oh wait, no it isn't. It's hilariously bad and transparently about guilting people into throwing money at things you want funded.
Get fucked.
>>70880628
Religion isn't about acknowledging the requests of pundits, it's more about dismissing them.
>>70882062
This takes the argument in a circle though. This is saying that it is the Christian's duty to comply with the law but the debate here is in what policy Christians should vouch for when deciding the law itself.
>>70880628
>Christian nation
stopped there
seperation of church and state mate.
>>70882408
>Gotta run, ironically I have to go to work.
Oh I was arguing with a yuropoor. Should have told me earlier. I wouldn't have waste my time given you (You)s
>>70882410
>the corrupt bureaucracy is controlled by liberals who don't tax you at the rates liberals believe you should be taxed at and constantly cut the programs liberals believe should be preserved and even expanded
Nietzsche was fucking right about Christcucks.
>>70882366
>>70882350
>>70882291
Does this guy actually believe he can talk directly to god?
Doesnt that make him a false prophet?
-it's not a christian country
-liberal policies don't help the poor, they hurt them
boom
>>70882435
>i lost the argument but YOU'RE A YURO HAHA
Have fun with it, son.
>>70882417
I think it also might be partially defining who should have authority though.
>Do you want to be unafraid of the one in authority? Then do what is right, and you will have his approval.
>the authorities are God’s servants, who devote themselves to their work.
Rephrased this could look something like "The authorities should be God servants who devote themselves to their work, and shall give approval to those who do what is right."
>>70882466
Sure whatever you say bud. I think the minarets should be calling for prayer right now
>>70882448
It's the same in non-Christian nations though.
Statists of any form are cancerous, and take a form similiar to actual cancer, they grow out of control, debilitate, and eventually kill the body.
I became a euphoric atheist when I realized Christians don't actually practice their religion the way Jesus taught. You're supposed to detach yourself from material possessions. Christians are supposed to be modest and not brag about their good deeds. You're supposed to help the needy, even the needy you don't like. You're supposed to unconditionally love your neighbours. Christians don't do any of this shit. Instead they try to find a loophole that gets themselves out of the responsibility of actually following Jesus' teachings.
>>70882452
Would you call Jesus a false prophet? How do you know he can't talk to God?
>>70882410
>render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's
>>70882504
why would you abdicate your belief because others are unable to follow how you think the belief should be followed
you just got mad at hypocrites and decided god didnt exist kek
>>70882510
Jesus performed miracles, fulfilled prophecies, and lived as he taught to prove his legitimacy.
>>70882541
>Liberals get to decide what is Caesar's
Nope. Fuck off.
>>70882246
Problem is that conservatives are too stupid to even realize they get own'd. And liberals would rather be right than do the right thing.
>>70882072
Where does the bible say to stone gays to death?
>>70882510
It specifically says to beware of false prophets, wolves wearing sheeps clothes.
These guys are trying to justify buying million dollar planes, talking about his personal plane, wearing expensive jewelry and clothes.
Wouldnt a real prophet in the end times be living strictly to the book?
>>70882562
>Problem is that conservatives are too stupid to even realize they get own'd.
I love these Tumblr-tier arguments.
Stay mad that your inane drivel got fought back with logic.
>>70882410
>>70882561
How about you actually read the Bible. Start with the widow's offering parable.
>>70882571
Leviticus I believe.
>>70881074
>descendants
kek
white germlines are self terminating. future world will be mohammed and co
>>70882246
>entire thread has been conservatives either ignoring the Word of God or twisting its meaning to the point of it not inconveniencing them
>>70882417
not in a circle but this just means that you'll have to study God's law above all first.
>>70882608
i think you believe wrong senpai
it says dont lie with men but it doesnt eschew a punishment
>>70882417
The intention behind my argument was to debate just that-- my point is that any policy that makes something compulsory that is only truly effective when it is voluntary is an ineffective policy by definition.
When we are confronted with a system that is failing, our solution should be to encourage the individuals involved to do what is right and what is responsible, not to adopt their responsibilities. You cannot claim that a policy that replaces accountability to God with accountability to the state is a Christian policy.
That being said, I'm sure the quality of living is a lot better now that than when Jesus was around, so maybe the welfare state has something going for it.
>>70880628
I'm looking for a site where I can watch movies for free. I'm specifically looking to watch The Manchurian Candidate, the original obviously. Does anyone know any sites? I have netflix, hulu, amazon prime , etc. and only prime has it for a fee.
I'm only asking here because this seems like a busy thread and I don't want to clutter the board with my shit. Please help me share good movies with friends.
>>70882641
True, but disobeying a direct commandment from God would probably warrant a pretty devastating punishment.
>>70882662
>not paying like 5$ a month for a VPN, and downloading literally any and every movie you want
>>70882661
was meant for
>>70882011
Sorry for almost robbing (you).
>>70882662
shut your fucking mouth whore
>>70882552
Because you have to make a choice
Do I live like a westboro baptist church member?
Do I live with mental gymnastics like everyone else I know (who obviously dont believe hard enough because of their hypocrisy and twisting of the word)
Or is everyone just putting on their little christian facade and not true believers because its all a bunch of hooey that isnt relevant in the modern age?
>>70882694
I'm a 26 year old FUCKING WHITE MALE
>>70882681
I'm dumb and poor. I thought /tv/ would have a sticky or some shit for this.
>>70882794
>because its all a bunch of hooey that isnt relevant in the modern age?
If you believe Christianity isn't relevant in the modern age, then you have no idea about the history of the world or the history of your own country, which has undoubtedly been affected by it in some form.
>>70882873
Why would history have any bearing on the actual truth of Christianity?
>>70882906
>actual truth
What does that mean? That not every word in The Bible should be followed? Or that the events described didn't actual happen?
The value of religion isn't the same value that can be found in historical fact.
A good unbiased history book does not subscribe a particular code of morals or ethics.
>>70880786
Niggers tongue my anus
>>70882678
God will punish them not other people
>>70883277
Well of course, but does that mean we cannot imprison murderers, rapists, thieves and the like?
>>70883306
So?
>>70883371
Words are nothing but elegant abstractions until someone makes them a reality.
>>70880628
If all these 100+ million rich cunts built one apartment block each, we could house the homeless in a year
>>70881071
Kill yourself you delusional sociopathic libtard
Your policies have done nothing but fuck over the poor.
>>70882964
People would claim that a good history book paints Hitler as the villain.
>>70883419
"People" would be looking for something that makes up their mind for them, rather than a book that concerns itself more with an accurate picture of history, so that they do not have to interpret or think deeply about what they are reading.
>>70883406
why the fuck would we want to do that? well just be encouraging handouts instead of teaching them to work
>>70883406
If all these 100+ million rich cunts build a pine coffin each, we could house the homeless in a few months.
>>70880628
No but I do find it true.
>>70883406
They did that before, the poor people ruined the apartments and crime rose exponentially
>>70881197
>but when it comes to the poor fuck them.
Citation needed because America is the most charitable country on Earth and conservative Americans are the most charitable group in America.
The bible isn't pro socialism it wasn't anti-socalism either. Jesus wants you to be charitable not because you have to but because it makes you feel good. its the thought that counts, that's why he made christmas so comfy. if Jesus really gave a shit about helping the poor he would do something about it, but he doesn't because the material world is controlled by the devil.
jesus was a freeloading hippy
>>70883406
>Coddling uselessness
Wewlad
>>70882584
>no argument
Thought so.
>>70882617
Except that's wrong.
Liberals have been asked multiple times to provide evidence that the Bible directly commands people to do what Liberals are asking to do, and they've failed and been refuted each time.
Cry more, libshit. Hopefully that NEETbux check will come in the mail soon.
>>70880628
I find this to be ingenious religious propaganda.
Kudos.
>>70883406
Giving housing to the "homeless" for free has been tried before.
And it was completely fucking disastrous.
A lot of homeless people are "homeless" for a reason.
>>70881071
>Actually it says to give unconditionally.
And it still doesn't say to force other people to give.
So you're point is STILL invalid.
>if this is going to be a christian nation
Anyone have that counter signal about how they never respect christians or christianity but they expect "what would Jesus do" to be a valid argument from them?
Besides, leftcucks are usually the first in line to complain about separation of church and state. You accuse the right of only being christian when it suits them? Hypocrite.
>>70883406
Then everybody would just identify as "homeless".
Why would I screw myself by paying for my own house when some rich asshole will give me one for free?
>>70881197
>but when it comes to the poor fuck them.
That explains the piles and piles of money Conservatives give willingly to the poor every year.
Oh wait, no it doesn't.
>>70883003
>mfw this exchange is in future textbooks so metaironically that irony loses all meaning
>>70883406
Things people give you have to be earned. For grants and loans, people don't just throw it at you. You have to show you aren't going to piss it away. That's the problem with homeless people, they can't show that, that's why they are fucking homeless.
>>70880786
Are you implying they will quote Stephen Colbert instead?
No, they fucking won't.
>>70883406
>Dude, if we picked up one of those grocery stores and flew it over to Africa, we could feed all the starving people there!
Are you fucking 12?
>>70884421
Most homeless people are homeless by choice, the state will look after you even if you're a useless sack of shit.
>>70884421
>>70885383
most people are homeless because they're severely mentally ill and state asylums kicked them out
>>70886350
The state will still you money if you ask for it.
If they are too shit at life to even be able to do that why should they were fucked anyway
>>70881434
T. Alexander Gordon Jahans
>>70880628
yes, and everyone should just admit it so we can get on with our lives.
>mfw this thread and politics in general
