Hollywood Has a Big Problem: 2016 is on pace to be the worst year for movies—by tickets bought per U.S. adult—since before the 1920s.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/06/hollywood-has-a-huge-millennial-problem/486209/?single_page=true
What's going on?
They kept boasting about how much money they made last year and now apes are "stickin it to the man"
>>70778568
too much capeshit
Well, the volume of movies has increased but people's disposable income has decreased. This is not really even a cultural issue.
>>70778568
TV is hilariously enough BTFO film.
It's easy to watch from home whenever you want.
>>70778568
Because white people STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED THAT THEY ARE EVIL!!!
Once they do, sales should go back to normal.
NO ONE WANTS TO FUCKING WATCH UNINSPIRED REBOOTS
I stopped going to the movies when tickets started selling for $16 dollars or more
maybe they should start there
Apologize.
>>70778568
Shit movies and poor adaption to modern tech ie bitch about piracy and not looking at the faults in the system or just try and offer some system to steal some piracy numbers instead of making the movies shitter for non-pirates
>>70778568
Not enough diversity meaning African American males
>>70778568
Theater experience is way too low in general.
>Seats wear out
>Commercials are about 10 minutes
>Trailers repeat too much, why can't we get some indie sprinkled in there?
>Snowflake Generation (12-23) AND Gen X women (40+) are both insanely rude and selfish and makes going to movies a disgusting chore oftentimes as you have to get through seat kicking, talking to screen all movie long, cell phones, loud chewing, burrito wrapper noises
>Technology and access has exploded, 50" TV and high speed internet = movies for days
>Finally, quality of films is very low and boring, Hollywood got lazy AF and deservedly so has paid the price, admittedly Hwood had to do predictable things to make money predictably because budget inflation got retarded
Economic corruption in Hollywood is increasing while the quality of movies being made are decreasing.
There's so much fucking corruption as far as where money goes in Hollywood that movies now need to make 25 million dollars OVER their production-budget to even start to break even.
They're doing this at a time when Hollywood is getting lazier and lazier with how they make movies and what movies get greenlit.
Sony is a microcosm of this, if you need an endemic example.
>>70778737
This.
It used to be that movies had some kind of advantage over TV, i.e. more professional and talented writers, bigger budgets and better special effects.
While the quality of movies went down, the quality of TV went up, but the prices stayed the same.
Now we have TV shows like Game of Thrones and The Knick and The Man In The High Castle that look like movies, while we have movies like That's My Boy and Daddy's Home and Neighbors 2 that look worse than most TV shows, and are written worse as well.
Why spend $16 to see one terrible movie when you can spend that same amount of money to get three months of Netflix, and stay home while having access to a library of great shows you actually WANT to watch?
Its too fucking expensive. Ticket prices keep going up, especially with imax and 3D. Not to mention the ridiculous food pricing. People have better access to other movies they can stay in and watch
Tickets too expensive
Too much diversity/pc propaganda
Too much animated pixarshit; no adult is gonna watch that shit, except maybe the poor parent.
I can't speak for others, but when I speak for myself: the reason I don't buy tickets to or even think about going to the cinema is because the movies are shit.
And they have been shit for more than a decade. Some people may feel good about choosing between Ice Age 8, Iron Man 12, Batman 93..., but I find it lazy, boring, and not worth money.
i download yify camrips
star wars rogue one tickets are going to be like $35 a pop. I'm saving up for those
>>70781081
>Too much diversity/pc propaganda
>Too much animated pixarshit; no adult is gonna watch that shit, except maybe the poor parent
*tippy wippy fedora*
>>70781342
m'cuck
>The problem for Hollywood is that audiences are ignoring everything that isn’t a sequel, adaptation, or reboot.
>>70781479
They don't put anything else out, so that can't be true.
>>70780195
>>70781081
IMAX and 3D are such a shitty meme. Tickets in Los Angeles, one of the most expensive cities in the US, are $6.50 at a decent screen.
The movies just suck right now. Look at your local big name theaters current line up of movies. I honestly don't have any interest in a single one of them.
Some of my friends like the superhero stuff but it is just so uninteresting to me that I can't spend the money on those shit cash grab movies.
>>70778696
Why is this getting no responses? It's fucking true without any politics involved.
Prices are going up and wages aren't rising fast enough. Theaters are going to be the first to feel it, then concerts, sports, hell amusement parks have been expensive for years now.
We should have listened.
>>70783509
its kinda silly to think bread and circuses will be the first casualties of reduced spending power when bread and circuses are the only reason the west has functioned for as long as it has.
>release a ton of literal shit movies
>oy vey whys the goys not seein meh movies
uh
The primary target demographic (teenagers) would prefer to netflix and chill anyway.
>>70778568
I only pay to see movies made by Christopher Nolan
>>70783636
literally this
>>70783589
I don't know man. As a kid, going to amusement parks was less than half of what it costs now. Movies were about half, sport shit was cheap, and same for concerts. It's kinda scary how bad things have gotten.
Meanwhile Americans continue to focus more on the president than the actual issues.
>>70783697
if actual issues want to be the center of attention, then actual issues need to get themselves a marketing department.
>>70779978
>Now we have TV shows like Game of Thrones and The Knick and The Man In The High Castle that look like movies, while we have movies like That's My Boy and Daddy's Home and Neighbors 2 that look worse than most TV shows, and are written worse as well.
This. The simple truth is that the movies they make nowadays are unoriginal and boring. Doesn't help they always hire niggers all the time.
>>70783697
>>70783766
>who'll win the next election
>the human desire for popularity contests
>>70779689
This.
>>70783697
And candybars used to cost a nickel.
>>70778773
>>70779568
>>70781081
These tbqhfam.
Videogames
>>70778568
When there's nothing of substance to watch, then audiences looking for mindless flash can easily pick out the flashiest of the bunch and ignore the rest.
>>70778568
Posting on the internet about how shitty the movies are is more entertaining than the actual movies
>>70778823
Where the fuck do tickets cost 16 dollerinos?
>>70778568
When was the last time a movie featured an actually hot young chick, and not some ugly old bitch who used to be a hot young chick?
Megan Fox in TF1?
Shannon Elizabeth in American Pie?
Nowadays you have fucking dried up old woman Monica Belluci in bond movies and the increasingly aged ScarJo and born-looking-45 Liz Olsen in the Marvelshit, and the fucking flatchested xenomorph in Star Wars.
If hollywood wants to sell tickets it needs to get over its Sjew shit and remember that sex sells.
Gee I wonder why.
probably because the only movies that are marketed are capeshit and CGI kids flicks
Studios know that foreign box office is more important than getting adult americans.
>Iron Man 3 grossed $409 million in North America and $806.4 million in other countries for a worldwide total of $1.2 billion.
>Avengers: Age of Ultron grossed $459 million in North America and $946 million in other territories for a worldwide total of $1.405 billion
>Pacific Rim grossed $101.8 million in North America, and has had a favorable international release, grossing $309.2 million in other countries, for a worldwide total of $411,002,906.
>Frozen earned $400.7 million in North America, and an estimated $873.5 million in other countries, for a worldwide total of $1.274 billion
Foreign gross is usually twice as much as America for box office. Yes, studios get less of a percentage, but they're developing the market for future sequels and tie ins.
>>70779978
TV is now a writer's medium:
>Sorkin (WW, The Newsroom)
>Noah Hawley (Fargo)
>Pizzman (True Detective)
>David Chase
>Vince Gilligan
>Damon Lindelof
>weiner
And we have shows like
>The Americans
>The Leftovers
>The Knick
etc. I don't even bother with Hollywood anymore. TV is prestigious now.
>>70785581
We don't have any classically beautiful film stars anymore but I think Elizabeth Olsen, Mary Winstead, and Brie Larson are pretty cute.
Probably the hottest woman I can remember is Lea Seydoux in Spectre but one thing that happened was that movies got feminized so you aren't allowed to objectify women any more so we didn't get any erotic scenes that really captured her sexuality. Missed opportunity to get her in lingerie or a bikini.
>>70785581
Monica Belluci is fucking gorgeous. Don't even come at me with that shit. The rest you're right though.
>>70786873
It's crazy watching films from the 70s-80s-90s where the women are bombshells. ie Sharon stone in total recall.
Out of this world beauty used to be celebrated but now Hollywood shys away from it, or down plays a women's beauty.
>>70787039
People don't like the reality that they are average looking. Women, especially don't want to see these ethereal out-of-this-world beauties.
>>70778568
It's the singles policy
>go to the local kinó théatre
>buy crab legs, popcorn, and a propeller hat
>go to my seat and notice girls and a chad are giggling at me
>overhear the chad saying "look at this virgin" >girls laugh even harder
>finally can't take it anymore
>politely ask him to stop being such a meany
>he pulls down my pants and shows everyone my pee pee
>I turn red with anger but try to carry on watching anyway
>he then reports me to the security guard for being single
>the security guard throws me and my remaining snacks in the trash and escorts me out
>while I'm roaming the streets covered in trash I realize my propeller hat is gone
All this just to watch a movie
>>70778568
Torrents. You're all thieves.
>>70778737
Before kids watched tv and adults went to the movies.
Now it's reversed.
>>70781855
Well aren't you a special little snowflake
>>70783697
Yeah yeah grandpa. Every generation thinks the world is going to hell when they get passed 21.
They need to introduce a subscription system like Netflix on a large scale. My local cinema chain lets people visit unlimited movies for €20 per month, and damn does it work to get people to cinemas. I see like 3 movies per week.
>>70781193
RIP YiFY
>>70778568
>torrenting and illegal downloads are to blame! it's goddamn hackers!
>>70785411
pretty much this
I hope this means they get rid of their no singles policy
>>70786172
Auteur theory killed film.
TV got it right in understanding that who else would understand the vision of the show better than the person who wrote the script?
>>70778568
too many niggers in movies. way too many niggers
>>70778823
tickets are 5 dollars at amc in the morning.
>>70785581
>Nowadays you have fucking dried up old woman Monica Belluci in bond movies
12 year old pleb detected.
BABY MEN DONT WANT TO WATCH WOMEN AS THE STARS
MAN BABIES
MAN UP
makes me so happy to see shekel shufflers scrambling
>>70778568
They're doing quite well http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2016&p=.htm
>>70789600
This. Where i am they aren't quite that cheap but the first showing of the day has an early bird discount on top of matinee pricing. With the added benefit that the theaters are deserted at that hour. Bring some coffee in a thermos and get ready for a comfy theatrical experience as you lay across 3 seats.
>>70785781
Holy shit, that is much money.
Hollywood is so greed.
>>70785581
Shut the FUCK up
>>70785662
this and whoever mentioned the corruption in Hollywood, but of course those dingleberries are gonna point a finger at piracy
>>70789793
you gotta pay the main jews at least 100 mil to play pretend on camera, dont let the fact that toddlers and golden retrivers can do their jobs take away from how much these people deserve.
fucking goyum you better step in line.
>>70778568
Capeshit, forced diversity, remakes after remakes after remakes.
>>70789220
Yes.
If the film industry doesn't wake up and stop putting the power of a film in the hands of directors it's going to keep getting shit like Fantastic Four.
Relegating writers to the position of nobodies was a dumb decision, and TV has proven that already.
>>70790123
Actually, the article says the only movies people are watching are capeshit, adaptations, and remakes.
>>70790183
Movies got too expensive. We are at a point where most blockbusters needs to make 500-600 million $ to even break even.
With that kind of money invested people are afraid to leave everything to one guy's vision. They keep messing with them for more mainstream appeal or more diversity.
And I doubt it's going to stop.
>>70790219
You mean like Interstellar? Or The Martian? Or fucking Avatar?
Personally I stopped going when the cinema showers weren't segregated anymore.
>>70778568
US Market is drying up, Americans tired of Hollywood releasing everything late compared to the rest of the world, spoilers leak online and then Americans don't want to waste their money on sloppy seconds.
China will soon be the overlords of movies, expect a lot of CG with a flimsy plot in the next 10 years before Hollywood finally dies.
>>70783636
Exactly anon.
>>70790286
>Exceptions break the rule
>>70790255
You kidding? The executives and producers didn't step in with that mess of Fantastic Four until Josh Trank completely threw it into the gutter while sitting in a tent by himself all day """directing""".
Obvious example of how directors are awarded too much power.
>>70778641
this
>>70778667
this
>>70778696
this
>>70778773
not this
>>70778808
this
>>70778823
this
>>70779568
niggers should make their own films desu senpai
instead of waiting for a jew director to cast them.
>>70779689
this
>>70778568
I've seen several movies in theatres this year. There's been plenty of fine kino available: Green Room, The Witch, Midnight Special, April and the Extraordinary World, Everybody Wants Some, The Nice Guys, etc. It's not my fault if plebs miss out.
People claim they stop going to movies because it's too expensive and nothing is that good anymore. The former is an acceptable reason, the latter is just delusional.
bump
>>70778667
If it wasn't for capeshit they would be making even less money.
WE NEED MORE MOVIES BASED IN MULTICULTURALISM, HOMOSEXUALITY, FEMINISISM AND NON-WHITE PEOPLE
Just look how whites don't buy tickets anymore this year. We need more so non-white cis people go more to the cinema as they should.
>>70790777
>Hollywood keeps pushing for diversity
>China hates niggers and especially in films if they're anything beyond a slapstick comedy sidekick
Something has got to give, either make great movies with only white/asian people or push on with diversity and watch as international markets stop watching movies.
>>70778568
Popstar bombed so I say fuck the mainstream audiences
>>70787367
Dude, this is like the first time a generation is starting a step back from the previous (gen x usually gets shoehorned with millenials).
If you've ever formally studied economics you'll realize we're in a pretty precarious position. It's not end of the world bad, but it's had a noticeable impact on well being.
Wages need to rise to compensate for inflation.
>>70783766
Dubs is right. The people don't want it so it doesn't sell. Hell, even places like NPR will cover Trump's antics more than the current economic climate.
Post tips for Hollywood to right itself
I think everyones a little right
>over saturated market full of endless and dull superhero films, sub par remakes, and 10m budgeted horror films
>wages have stagnated, going to the movie is usually 10 dollars usd per person, enough for a decent meal at a sit-down restaurant
>better alternativencontent creators available in some cases such as netflix, hulu and amazon prime
>>70793681
Make it cheaper to go to the theater. People only go because it is a cultural tradition not because it makes sense. There is absolutely no reason other than a chance to get seen and make money for a movie to be shown in a limited release theatrical run
It used to be that way because
1. Not everyone owned TVs
2. DVDs and VHS didn't exist
They need to stop being so arrogant or else they are going to go the way of blockbuster video
MAKE
BETTER
MOVIES
>>70778568
>Several follow-ups—including Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows, Zoolander 2, The Huntsman: Winter’s War, Neighbors 2: Sorority Rising, The Divergent Series: Allegiant, Barbershop: The Next Cut, and Alice Through the Looking Glass—have “disappointed or flopped outright,”
Didn't the movies that these were all sequels to suck as well? Not surprising these didn't make money but I hardly think this represents any major trend.
Watched warcraft, that was pretty fun. But most of the shit I watch in the theater are meme movies and I don't see anything meme-worthy in the near future outside of le wacky madman movie
KILL
THE
JEWS
I cannot remember the last time there was something that I felt was a much watch. I went to some garbage years ago but that was just a social thing.
The formula is tired.
>>70790286
The Martian is an adaptation. As for Interstellar and Avatar, those were made by some of the most prominent directors working today with the edge of IMAX and, in Avatar's case, the recent resurgence of 3D.
>>70788593
what the fuck happened to yify anyway
shut down by cops?
>>70794043
it's kino then
AAAAGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Not enough niggers. Americans are clamoring for more diverse entertainment that reflects that changing demographics of the nation. The more Hollywood whitewashes, the less money it makes. Weirdly enough, the Fast and Furious movies are one of the only big franchises that reflects this new reality.
Going to the cinema sucks because you're surrounded by normal fags. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>The problem for Hollywood is that audiences are ignoring everything that isn’t a sequel, adaptation, or reboot. The market for films based on stories that aren’t already famous is threadbare. These sort of stories exist in entertainment, but consumers, and particularly young consumers, are looking for them outside of darkened theaters.
And this is ALL your fucking problem! The reason we keep getting reboots and sequels is because you keep paying money to see it!
Bad Neighbors 2 got 95 million at the box office. WHY?? Why the fuck did you all go and pay money to watch that shit?
It is such a shame that R Rated psychological thrillers like Jacob's Ladder are dead and we will never see anything like that again in the mainstream. All we get is Disney capeshit.
They let too many blacks in at one time.
>>70791301
this
>>70794353
To be fair that's why I stopped going. All the retards eating popcorn, farting and playing with phones takes away the fun.
It's all capeshit and I don't want to watch that trash
>>70794402
>The problem for Hollywood is that audiences are ignoring everything that isn’t a sequel, adaptation, or reboot.
But the big high profile flops this year have been sequels-- the TMNT something or other, that Alice in Wonderland whatever, that Snow White BS. [Spoiler] that's all fine with me thought. I'm enjoying watching these hacks squirm when audiences don't take the bait[/spoiler]
Hollywood should completely abandon US market and focus on China and Europe.Also no more sequels,we all know sequels suck.
>>70781193
>>70788593
>>70794213
htt ps://yts. ag
People are saving their dollars to go see Avatar 2 ten times
Is it me, or do they show more commercials than movie trailers before a movie starts nowadays?
Went to see conjuring 2 last night, I think we had 3 or 4 trailers but a lot of commercials too.
When I went to see star wars 7, we only got 2 movie trailers before the movie
I don't go much to the theatre so maybe you guys can confirm this or not
>>70787191
very dreamlike
8/10
And yet it'll be the best year ever for internet content and TV.
Fuck off hollywood and release you movies online same time as the cinema you backward fucks
Honesty, I feel like the "summer movie season" has become a meme. Why does every studio jam pack the summer months and cannibalize each other's business?
The success of Deadpool and TFA should show studios you can get people to turn up in droves for a movie at any time of the year, but they don't spread them out.
>>70778568
Another sensationalist article spouting nonsense. Shitty movies like age of ultron are making billions
There is no problem. If there was its easily solved by stopping directors and studios from making constant shit
>>70778568
It's also the worst year in the history of cinema quality wise.
Hollywood is killing its own business because of the crap they produce.
>>70778568
>Hollywood propagandizes an ideology that demonizes its main demographic
>said demographic stops watching movies
Oy vey, why are we making less profits?
>>70797652
And capekino is the only kind of movie that will reliably produce those results barring a few franchises like Star Wars. Do you know what's happening to films not made with a fuckhuge budget and not based on existing properties? They're basically dying, the current model of making films is on the way out. I work down here and everyone I know in the business is either trying to get on a network/streaming TV show or figuring out what the fuck they're going to do about film production that doesn't put them at Netflix's mercy.
>>70797912
This, if they made more indiana jones or last samurai America in X or vs X movies they would sell tickets. I want to live vicariously through the main character. I can't do that if he is an ugly black man with the personality of iCarly like in the new "star wars".
>>70797263
>movie listed as starting at 12PM.
>45 minutes later... Opening scenes
>>70797629
Summer movies are flicks like Fast and the Furious. That is the point of summer movies. They are meant to be pulp that satisfies, not good.
That said The Fast and the Furious franchise is secretly some of the greatest works of Hollywood satire of all time. They watch like a much better, higher budget, and more subtle Tim and Eric.
>>70798143
>movie starts later than its advertised time to make sure everyone is settled by the time the movie actually starts
>people still scrambling in as the movie starts
>>70793493
Wages can't rise because the labor market is in competition with Mexicans, Indians and Chinese who will work for fraction of the US living wage.
Test
gg
>>70781855
This
I cant find any movies coming out that I actually want to see
>60 cents of every dollar spent on 'advertising', up from 20 cents.
The Jews have found a great way to funnel money out of movie studios. I'm also very surprised that limitless nepotism would lead to an industry devoid of talent and creativity.
>>70783931
> Doesn't help they always hire niggers all the time
What does this have to do with anything?
>>70781568
where in cali?
>>70778568
>Marlel almost destroyed the comic industry in the 90s and then went Bankrupt (only to be bailed out by Fox and Sony)
>Marlel is now destroying the movie industry and will hopefully cause the destruction of the Mouse's Empire.
I'll be the happiest man alive if this happens. Hopefully that'll put an end to all the "Give the rights back" type of comments on Facebook.
Capeshit is slowly killing the industry
Everybody torrents now.
>>70802892
>tips
>>70778823
ayyy
in my country VIP theatres cost around $5
also people are respectful (mostly) in theatres, no complaints there
I live in Mexico btw
America is truly the land of the cucked
>>70783636
/tv/ might think its a meme but this is exactly what I do.
>>70797012
TMNT didnt make much because the writers listened to comic book fans instead of their own guts telling them that this is a stupid plot
Maybe if they started making good movies instead of Transformers 7, people would pay to go see them.
>>70778823
An iMax in nyc is like 22, buddy.
i've got a 50 bucks amc gift card, and every time I'm in the mood to go, i look at what's playing and it's complete and utter shit.
>>70803528
This
You'd think that with all the talent and money they have they'd be able to make something that's not dogshit.
Is it the jewish nepotism that's bogging down the industry? Maybe just giving out jobs to any jew who walks into your office isn't the key to quality movies.
>>70778850
Why didn't they listen. You could have stopped capeshit.
>>70781172
This.
I consider myself a casual but I go to the cinema easily more than whatever the average is. Movies are just crap these days.
>xmen
>warcraft
>high rise
>the previous bond film
All shit. I feel sorry for casuals who expected anything good.
I seriously think that directors and actors and cinematographers are all a meme. I think writers aren't, and I think hollywood treats them as trash.
>>70804185
I don't think directors, actors, and cinematographers are always a meme, but Hollywood has made them one
>>70783509
Speak for yourself you pov cunt, movies have been complete shit and are getting worse as we push for diversity.
>people aren't going to the movies weekly because tickets are $11aud
Retard
>>70803355
I heard the movie was more like the 80's cartoon
>>70804575
>I call people retarded but can't quote the right person.
>>70804603
Haven't seen the cartoon. The nerds behind me kept cheering at stuff I didn't get. Amell's "acting" was extremely poor. The main villain was a brain attached to a robot cocoon.
>>70804721
That was Krang from the 80's cartoon right. You really never saw any of the episodes? That show was huge from the late 80's to early 90's.
>>70781081
>Too much diversity/pc propaganda
maybe for your small group of autistic racist neo nazis this is a problem. but it's not even close enough of a reason why we have a problem.
>>70805211
>blaming the neo nazi's for all your problems.
typical cuckservative.
>>70778696
/Thread
>>70778773
Especially white males
