Are we meant to enjoy this movie? What's the point of watching something if we're not meant to be entertained by it?
pleb
I found it very entertaining. Best comedy of that year.
max plebbing
>>70718483
I'm a huge fan of anything in the fiction genre but this movie was a huge suspension of disbelief
>>70718535
>>70718514
So you literally watch movies to not feel entertained, but to feel shitty afterwards? What's the point?
>>70718678
just the shots (and I mean Spielberg's camera shots) are alone more than enough to make this movie great
It is the best character movie since citizen kane and nothing topped it since.
You can meme all you want about
>le jews
>hitler dindu nuffin
>the holocaust never happened
And movie aren't always made to make you feel happy
>>70718760
do you only watch movies if they're in the imdb top 100?
>>70718483
haven't watched it yet, is it just pure propaganda or
>>70718799
I never go to imdb
I only know that shawshank is like the number 1 right? And I find shawshank mediocre but the Brooks scene
>Hello everyone I'm a pleb
>>70718872
dark knight is 4, this should say enough
>>70718861
It's a genuinely good movie if you aren't a turbo polfag.
Even if you take out the holocauts, is still the story of a single man trying to do good.
>>70718760
It's good but it's not the best character film since Citizen Kane. That's a massive exaggeration
>What's the point of watching something if we're not meant to be entertained by it?
Plebbest of plebs
>>70718861
>pure propaganda
Yes, the Germans did nothing wrong. /pol/ said this and I believe them because they quote articles from the most objective newspaper in the history Der Stürmer.
>>70718483
>Are we meant to enjoy this movie?
>Are we meant to enjoy the greatest comedy film of all time?
Well, yes. Idiot.
>This is the mind set of a capeshit fan
Top fuckin pleb
>>70718483
What are you talking about? It's a comedy. Of course it's meant to be enjoyed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_huIjlV6Go
>>70718950
which one is then?
>>70718982
i never said that the germans did nothing wrong, but obviously the winners write the history books.
>>70718921
thanks, will watch
>>70719027
>but obviously the winners write the history books
I supposed this is the reason why there are so many books about Allies war crimes and even more about Soviet Union crimes.
>>70719025
It's stupid to try and definitively state which is the best. TWBB or the Master are both fantastic off the top of my head.
>>70719129
>PTA
I love TWBB but come it is not as great as Schindler
Daniel was shit from the get go, Schindler has a clearly an arc and a change of heart, he has much more depth to him
>>70719184
Character studies are not necessarily about an arch, and Daniel Plainview has a pretty clear decline regardless.
>one kinda good German
>let's make a film about him!
>thousands of Poles helping Jews, many of them murdered by the Nazis for this
>Polish death camps! Poles were worse than the Germans!
>>70719025
Darth Vader's character arc.
>>70719336
t. Zdzisław Nowakowski
>/tv/
>>70719301
I dunno I still finding Schindler better, it is 3 hours long and it definitely doesn't feel like while TWBB definitely does
The fake brother sub plot is weak as fuck, Dano was good but having him playing two characters is just confusing
The cinematography is great in both movies but I think Schindler has more good stuff in it
>>70719386
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Public_Security_(Poland)
>was a postwar communist, secret police, intelligence and counter-espionage service operating from 1945 to 1954 under minister for Public Security general (Generał brygady) Stanisław Radkiewicz, and supervised by Jakub Berman of the Politburo. Its main goal was the eradication of the anti-communist structures and socio-political base of the underground Polish Secret State as well as, the persecution of soldiers of the Polish Home Army (Armia Krajowa) and Freedom and Independence (WiN) active during World War II.
>From January 1945 (or, July 22), the surviving members of the Home Army laid down their arms, granted an official amnesty (lasting till October 15). Most were arrested by MBP on the spot, tortured and tried for treason.[9] The MBP carried out brutal pacification of civilians, mass arrests (see: Augustów roundup), as well as makeshift executions (see: Mokotów Prison murder, Public execution in Dębica) and secret assassinations.[10] According to depositions by Józef Światło and other communist sources, in 1945 alone the number of members of the Polish Underground State deported to Siberia and various labor camps in the Soviet Union reached 50,000.
Most notable MBP personnel:
Antoni Alster (Jew)
Jakub Berman (Jew)
Józef Bik (Jew)
Julia Brystiger (Jew)
Józef Czaplicki (Jew)
Anatol Fejgin (Jew)
Julian Kole (Jew)
Julian Konar (Jew)
Mieczysław Mietkowski (Jew)
Salomon Morel (Jew)
Józef Różański (Jew)
Roman Romkowski (Jew)
Leon Rubinstein (Jew)
Józef Swiatło (Jew)
Helena Wolińska-Brus (Jew)
>>70719336
are you denying that there were many, many polish collaborators?
>>70719841
>On March 30, 1943, the SS Headquarters refused to create Polish units, citing among the reasons that thousands of Poles fled both the German and Austrian armies in 1917–1918; that the creation of Polish units would mean that Poles and Germans should be officially treated as equal; and the fact that the Poles themselves were not willing to fight for Germany.[11]
>>70719336
my dad always gets really pissed about this shit
>>70719889
so you're saying there were no poles complicit in the holocaust?
that's ridiculous
I thought the ending was good, but there was a lot of poetic license taken that I thought detracted from the actual story.of what happened
>>70720048
There were, but they weren't that common.
>The imposition of the death penalty for Poles aiding Jews was unique to Poland among all German occupied countries, and was a result of the conspicuous and spontaneous nature of such an aid.[72] For example, the Ulma family (father, mother and six children) of the village of Markowa near Łańcut – where many families concealed their Jewish neighbors – were executed jointly by the Nazis with the eight Jews they hid.[73] The entire Wołyniec family in Romaszkańce was massacred for sheltering three Jewish refugees from a ghetto. In Maciuńce, for hiding Jews, the Germans shot eight members of Józef Borowski family along with him and four guests who happened to be there.[74] Nazi death squads carried out mass executions of the entire villages that were discovered to be aiding Jews on a communal level.[28][75] In the villages of Białka near Parczew and Sterdyń near Sokołów Podlaski, 150 villagers were massacred for sheltering Jews.[76]
>a person life's worth a fucking pin
>>70718483
It's pure fiction that they showed us in high school presented as fact.
It's nothing more than an indoctrination tool.
test
>>70718483
No, you're supposed to feel like the jews are good people that dindu nuffin and immense amounts of white guilt.
Reminder that Amon Goth (played by Ralph Fiennes) was removed from his position and arrested by the Nazis due in part to his mistreatment of prisoners.
>Dismissal and captureEdit
On 13 September 1944 Göth was relieved of his position and charged by the SS with theft of Jewish property (which belonged to the state, according to Nazi legislation), failure to provide adequate food to the prisoners under his charge, violation of concentration camp regulations regarding the treatment and punishment of prisoners, and allowing unauthorised access to camp personnel records by prisoners and non-commissioned officers.[34]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amon_G%C3%B6th
Why are there so many people here who are holocaust deniers?
>>70720784
/pol/acks and people brainwashed by them.
>>70718483
to think, you dumb faggot.
you losers only watch easy, shallow trash like capeshit and transformer, or stuff that will trigger you so you can whine about it later (like the polblerinas are doing itt).
>>70720784
Because this is an open, anonymous discussion forum.
If you're interested in Holocaust revisionism I suggest checking out these documentaries:
>David Cole in Auschwitz full documentary 1992
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs
>The Treblinka Archaeology Hoax (2014)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=47rbRNSGQUs
>Questioning The Holocaust - Why We Believed (Part 1 of 2)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RddqP0ABzwM
>>70720849
>it's only brainwashing when it's an opinion held by a minority of people
You definitely weren't brainwashed into believing anything via the media or education.
>>70720953
""""documentaries""""
If you're interested in Holocaust I suggest reading books, not watching Youtube videos.
>>70718483
it was such a cheap movie. emotionally manipulating people, especially the scene with the girl in a red coat.
>>70721012
>denying physical video evidence
And the makers of those documentaries wrote such books, ya jackass.
>>70721012
Not an argument.
Stay ignorant pal.
this is why I don't find strange people forgetting the jedi in 40 years
>>70721181
>wrote such books
Not really, revisionism isn't real history. Also, I bet you haven't even read their books, let alone good books about the holocaust.
Watching shitty videos on Youtube is easier than reading a book about the extermination of Jews.
Let me guess, you also watched Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told and now believe the Nazis did nothing wrong?
>>70721354
You're unaware of the arguments put forth in these documentaries, yet you criticize them.
You refuse to even consider to challenge your views.
You're a closed minded fool.
>>70721502
>You're a closed minded fool
No, you are. You're too lazy to learn the official story of the holocaust, because I doubt you've read a single book about it. Books are boring, right?
>>70721635
Great comeback, faggot.
Nice non argument you got there.
>>70721711
So I'm right. You don't know the official story and "refuse to even consider to challenge your views".
>>70721882
No you're not right.
>HURR DURR I BET X
isn't an argument.
>>70721940
How many books about holocaust have you read then? And what kind of books?
>>70722057
You do realize that holocaust education is a mandatory part of every school curriculum throughout the entire western world, right?
And that the Holocaust is a constant topic of television programs, movies, documentaries, news articles, etc.
>How many books about holocaust have you read then? And what kind of books?
None of your fucking business.
How about you stop criticizing materials you have no knowledge of, you closed minded faggot?
>>70721882
>The official story
>Muh six million
>No physical evidence actually existing of ovens capable of burning that many bodies in that span of time, and functioning gas chambers that could safely pump in and extract the poisonous gas
>Multiple "eye witnesses" being exposed as frauds ("It was real in my mind")
Good goyim. Don't question what your Masters tell you.
good historical fantasy
>>70722221
I refuuse to believe you're a real person with this actual opinion
>>70722221
>You do realize that holocaust education is a mandatory part of every school curriculum throughout the entire western world, right?
>mandatory
Gee, I wonder why that is. I guess you don't know indoctrination when you see it.
>you closed minded faggot
Pot, meet kettle.
>>70718678
>not enjoying good performances
>>70722299
Faggot.
>>70722223
>and functioning gas chambers that could safely pump in and extract the poisonous gas
See, you don't even know how the gas chambers worked.
>>70722312
>Gee, I wonder why that is. I guess you don't know indoctrination when you see it.
I agree that the purpose of mandatory Holocaust education is indoctrination.
>Pot, meet kettle.
You've yet to demonstrate how I'm being closed minded.
just a reminder that the JIDF are getting paid to post in this thread
>>70722370
Is this your first day on 4chan.
Can you imagine that you're replying to a different anon?
Moron.
>>70722370
Neither do you if you think a proper "gas chamber" would be fitted with wooden doors and floor drains and no way to remove said gas.
>>70722386
Your mandatory holocaust education is irrelevant. Read academic books about the destruction of European Jews. School education is good for kids.
>>70722386
You agree that the Holocaust education is indoctrination, but you disagree that the stuff they're indoctrinating you with is false.
>>70722486
It's a /pol/ meme. You don't know the official story. Apparently even reading the Wikipedia page is too time consuming for people like you.
>>70722328
>tfw there's always some kinda of black pillar between them to symbolze that Schindler is not the same as your regular nazi
>>70722581
What the fuck are you talking about? Have you ever seen a photo from an actual gas chamber? They have (non-airtight) wooden doors, glass windows, floor drains, and no extraction systems.
>>70722529
>Your mandatory holocaust education is irrelevant.
It isn't irrelevant as it addresses your original point:
You said:
>you're too lazy to learn the official story of the holocaust, because I doubt you've read a single book about it. Books are boring, right?
The official story of the Holocaust is learned by every school aged child in the West.
>Read academic books about the destruction of European Jews. School education is good for kids.
I've read plenty of books regarding the Holocaust.
You're not aware of the arguments presented in the documentaries I provided therefore you cannot be certain that the claims are ever addressed in any "academic books" regarding the Holocaust.
You haven't even bothered to consider the position of Holocaust revisionists, which is why I'm ridiculing you.
If your response is something like:
>NO I BET YOU HAVEN'T READ ANY "GENUINE" BOOKS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
Then don't bother as this conversation is going in circles. I'll end by saying you're a gigantic faggot with a closed mind.
Art is about conveying emotion, not mindless entertainment, you fucking pleb.
Schindler's List is the heart wrenching tale of the persecution of a completely blameless innocent who does nothing wrong.
>>70722730
first day on 4chan?
>>70722768
ebin response, maybe it will become a meme
>Schindler's list thread
>you could be talking about the wonderful performances
>you could be talking about the wonderful music
>you could be talking about how Schindler evolves as a character without having that especific point where he says "teehee now i'm goody!"
>you could be talking about the killing shots of prime Spielberg
>NO LET'S DISCUSS IF THE HOLOCAUST HAPPEND FOR THE GORILLION TIME
fuck you fucking shitheads
>>70722796
maybe you will
>>70722754
Amon Goth was a really evil man, even the Nazis thought so.
See:
>>70720646
>Test audiences thought the violence in the film was over the top and unrealistic.
>The violence was actually toned down from reality to film.
>>70722812
rude
>>70722812
muh holocaust mothafucka!
>>70722730
>I've read plenty of books regarding the Holocaust.
Please name them.
>You're not aware of the arguments presented in the documentaries
I actually watched them.
>>70722812
Fuck you, SJW nigger, we don't like to watch movies. We don't watch movies--period. We only observe Jewish influence in media.
>>70722884
>people actually believe this
>this nigger got so triggered he is going to post a fucking book
>>70719336
But Poland can't into space
>The stupid fucking red jacket on the little girl
Literally fedora tipping college film student tier
>>70718678
>he can't sit and watch a great story
literally autistic
>>70723258
It was written in a book, so it must be true.
No photos, drawings, etc. of such a device? And one for each prisoner, no less? Wow, those Germans sure were efficient in their killing methods.
>>70723263
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miros%C5%82aw_Hermaszewski
>a person life's worth a fucking pin
>>70720423
>>70723373
Why would you post it twice? Autism?
>>70723519
>Walks out of gas chamber alive
>Nazi guards just decide to let her go instead of putting in a second time
It was real in my mind!
Death by tickling.
Those Nazis really were inhuman bastards!
>>70723595
This is not how it worked, though.
>>70723668
The purpose was to kill them, right? So why would they allow her to leave?
>She passed the test... Let her go, Hans. Her fate is no longer in our hands.
>>"It is unbelievable," said Mr. Hubert, "but it happened."
>tfw people who deny the holocaust will always be seen as looney retards
feels good man
>>70718483
I always enjoy watching other people die/suffer
>>70723663
Except this doesn't even sound exaggerated. Oh right I forgot the Germans did nothing wrong. Apparently this also didn't happen.
>In the villages of Białka near Parczew and Sterdyń near Sokołów Podlaski, 150 villagers were massacred for sheltering Jews.[76]
>"More than fifteen thousand Polish civilians had been murdered by German troops in Warsaw. At 5:30 that evening [August 5], General Erich von dem Bach gave the order for the execution of women and children to stop. But the killing continued of all Polish men who were captured, without anyone bothering to find out whether they were insurgents or not. Nor did either the Cossacks or the criminals in the Kaminsky and Dirlewanger brigades pay any attention to von dem Bach Zelewski's order: by rape, murder, torture and fire, they made their way through the suburbs of Wola and Ochota, killing in three days of slaughter a further thirty thousand civilians, including hundreds of patients in each of the hospitals in their path."[9]
>>70723809
No one outright "denies the Holocaust".
You don't know what revisionists actually believe.
>>70723841
>death by hot steam
Sounds legit.
>Oh right I forgot the Germans did nothing wrong.
No one says this.
>>70723732
I'm not saying it's true, but they wouldn't bother to gas just one person.
>>70723836
>acid pits
how wonderfully silly
>>70718483
You should watch the movie Entertainment with Gregg Turkington, it might answer your question.
>>70723924
Why didn't they include her in the next group?
Why didn't they freak out at the sight of a person surviving a GAS CHAMBER?
Why do you have such a hard time admitting that this women is full of shit?
Her story is completely debunked in "Questioning the Holocaust"
See:
>>70720953
>>70723924
I know that, but why wouldn't they send her back in with the next batch of victims, or just keep her in the room until she did die?
Did they just let her out the door reeking of poisonous gas where other Nazis could get hospitalised from breathing it in?
C'mon, man. Use your head.
>some mentally ill people lied therefore the entire holocaust never happened
>>70723921
>death by hot steam
There were actually many rumors about what was happening in the death camps. But there is nothing weird about drowning children or burning synagogues.
>>70724024
Nice strawman.
>>70723778
This is also perfectly possible.
>>70718483
We are meant to enjoy it. "Enjoy" doesn't have to mean we had fun watching it or we were happy watching it or laughed at it. The acting is good and the story is good. It's a good movie and we enjoy good movies.
When do you think Hollywood will make a movie about the Holodomor?
HAHAHHA reading these fake ass kike Holocaust stories is hilarious.
Fucking jews are such liars and thieves. I'm honestly embarrassed for them and the retarded horse shit stories they came up with. Its cringe worthy as fuck and only time will expose them as the parasites they are.
>>70724150
>and only time will expose them
Time is money and the Jews rule the banks. They'll never be fully exposed because the truth is just too red pilled for most people to handle.
>>70724150
How do you get this far in life with bait that bad?
>>70724306
I...I can't even...
I mean, it's 2016, how is it possible to think this way in the current year.
Right?
>>70724211
Funny how only ignorant fools use the term 'red pilled'. You are like those guys believing in conspiracy theories or ancient aliens. Everyone is a sheep except you.
>>70724359
This is either worse bait or you're retarded. Either way you've managed to type a reply that makes no sense.
>>70724360
Nice strawman!
>>70724083
>hospitalized in a """""death camp"""""
>>70724061
so you weren't implying that the holocaust never happened when you posted articles about people lying about what happened to them and you agree that the holocaust was the single most despicable act ever committed in history
my apologies then
>>70724576
>what is final solution
>what is the Wannsee conference
>what is a concentration camp
>>70724790
I always thought that according to the narrative there were only gas chambers at extermination camps.
concentration camps were basically forced labor camps which make far more sense when you are fighting an immensely costly war.
so if she survived the gas chamber WHY would they hospitalize her if the intent was to kill her.
>>70724606
It's a strawman because I never said or suggested"the entire holocaust never happened", nor did I state that Holocaust revisionism is primarily or solely based on obviously false eyewitnesses testimony.
>and you agree that the holocaust was the single most despicable act ever committed in history
Good goy. Mainstream historians agree that the Soviets and Maoist China killed far more people than allegedly in the Holocaust.
People died on comparable numbers during the Holodomor as well.
>>70724887
Death camps didn't exist before 1942.
It's possible that she was in a concentration camp.
>>70725051
Did you read the article?
you're supposed to feel guilty Goy
>>70725138
Yes. She collapsed and was released in a concentration camp before they built the gas chambers.
>>70725229
You're obviously wrong considering the fact that homicidal gas chambers didn't exist in the labor camps.
>>70723836
>not posting the best one
>>70725437
That's even worse than death via tickling.
Those monsters!
>>70725437
This is absolutely possible.
>I-it's absolutely possible, I tell ya! It has to be true! Why would they lie about something like this?! Stop it, /tv/, my world is crashing down around me and I'm scared
It's okay, Anon. Just let go of the illusion and the truth will set you free.
oyyy vey da six gorillion moided by dem evil nazis!
Why are neckbeards so triggered by basic history?
>>70725437
Funniest part about these images is that the brain dead /pol/ shitposters who shill them are always in the process of telling everyone how they believe everyone's grandparents met up to agree on a fake version of history.
>Dey wuz all liars, nazis dindu nuffin
>>70726501
A great strawman, friend.
>>70726108
Bad bait
>>70726578
Bad bait
>>70727243
Is it a strawman.
>are always in the process of telling everyone how they believe everyone's grandparents met up to agree on a fake version of history.
>Dey wuz all liars, nazis dindu nuffin
