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A P O L O G I Z E
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I-I-It's going to bomb in Papau New Guinea!!
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>>70713083
It sucks.

It's the new Transformers.
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>>70713083

will drop by half next week
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>>70713083

>280 million and the weekend just start

SAY IT WITH ME

DAWN OF VIDYA KINO
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>getting beat by The Conjuring 2
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Holy Fuuck is this the new avatar?

cry more
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>>70713199
The Conjuring 2 is a normie fest tbH

went yesterday and there were lots of chads with their gfs
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>>70713083
Disneycucks on suicide watch!
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Why do you keep making this thread? This is the 12th one in less than 24 hours
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It needs to break 500 million dollars to be break even, forget profits.
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>>70713390
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Plebs like pleb flicks. I have nothing to apologize for.
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Based slanteyes saving Blizzkino.
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>>70713083

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/06/11/box-office-warcraft-snags-meager-10-7-million-friday/#38c12d35636b

"MEAGER"

SAVAGE
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>>70713183

I don't care about the movie at all but do you actually genuinely believe that box office corresponds to a movie's quality?
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>>70713113
>>70713083
kek
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>>70713639
V I D Y A
K I N O
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>>70713113
transformers 1 is actually good though
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>>70713083

IT MAKIN MONEY SO MUST BE BESTEST MOVIE EVERRRR!!!!
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Diablo movie when?
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>only China like Warcraft
>studio decides to make Warcraft 2 entirely with Chinese actors and Chinese dialog
>OP kills himself

based China is doing Gods work
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>>70713639

>Marvelfag THIS mad because his capeshit is being dethroned

let it go son, let it go
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>>70713083
I actually think pretty much every other Blizzard game would have made a better movie. Diablo/Starcraft/Overwatch when?
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>>70713759

I view superhero movies and Warcraft as embarrassing blights on our culture and an indication of the mass retardation of millennials
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Oldschool Runescape movie when?
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>>70713083

opened in 3.400 theaters, made $300 per theater.

you do know that it costs more than $300 to even open a theater per day right?
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>>70713813
you sure do
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Honestly, I don't think the movie is that good

But i hope it's successful, and it get like 12 sequals and spin offs that are all monetary successess

And I hope the critics and /tv/ hates them all

because this may not be vidyakino

but it is the best shitpostkino i've ever seen
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>>70713401
Its budget and marketing were below 250, less than the budget of BvS
And unlike BvS its not going to ruin hundreds of peopels careers and make DC consider ending all its movies.
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>>70713647
>Critics hate anything not Oscarbait or Jewmade
Color me surprised.
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>>70714109
Silly blizzdrone
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>>70713898
287kk/3.4k=300
/tv/ cant do math what a surpise.
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>mfw jews will start pumping shekels into producing vidya kino instead of capeshit
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>>70713813
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>>70714143
Silly moron.
>Critics ars right when they agree with me
>otherwise they dont know how to review movies
When critics starting bashing it for being
>WHITE MALE
Thats when i knew critics didnt care.
But hey maybe youll say Ghostbusters is good because all the critics will say you need to see it
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>>70714174
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>>70714154
are you a retard? OP was clearly talking about domestic
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>>70713639
Yes, that's what the MCU fans taught me.
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>>70713898
first off, that's wrong math
secondly, that would be the theater's problem.
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>>70713920
>but it is the best shitpostkino i've ever seen
you must have missed the first day the BvS review embargo dropped
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>>70714209
Your entire post is sad and makes no sense

You said critics hate blockbusters as a defense for Warcraft getting bad reviews, which clearly reveals you are a pathetic blizzcuck fanboy, because critics like tons of blockbusters and summer action movies
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>>70714209
>When critics starting bashing it for being
>>WHITE MALE
You mean that one critic?
Even by Blizzdrone standards your brain is fucking Swiss cheese.
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>>70714256
>>70714154
>Being this retarded

Just like BvS and DCucks, Warcraft will bring in all the loser Blizzard fanboys to defend the movie, troll and shitpost

This movie is AWFUL, not just bad
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Best kino since BvS
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Wont even make 250m in America, hell this shit might not even make 200m Domestically
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>>70714174
Fuck off back to twitter shitskin
https://twitter.com/search?q=vidyakino
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>>70714307
you are the retarded one, you can't even solve 1st grade math problems.
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>>70713083
I'm sorry China has shit taste
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>>70714360
dont forget china loved all the transformer movies
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>>70713083
Jesus, why such disparity?
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>>70714381
one screening on a thursday in the us, versus several weeks in numerous countries world wide.
real test will be this weekend.
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>>70714430
*on a friday
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>>70714430
>one screening on a thursday in the us,
m8 it made 10 million on FRIDAY in US, not thursday
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>>70714174
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muh muh kino
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>>70714464
too late ;^)
>>70714455
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>>70714381
because the rest of the world loves eating americas trash
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/tv/ BLOWN THE FUCK OUT!!
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>>70714517
wait does this mean you're blown the fuck out too or are you admitting you're not a local here and just a reddit tourist??
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>>70714350

>might

a guy that has no idea how the box office works

its going to be around 60 million domestic
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>>70714455
>>70714430
It wasnt "one" screening, it was on 3400 screens
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>>70713390
Blizzshills now infest /tv/ too.
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>>70714541
Its not even going to make 30 million this weekend

Are you retarded or just a bad troll
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>>70714582

for the entire fucking run of the film retard
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>>70714535
were all redditors now

get used to it nerd
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>>70714535

>le reddit meme

t. butthurt reddit faggot that only comes here for game of thrones and walking dead
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>>70714467
I fucking wish
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Does this herald the end of capeshit and the dawn of vidyakino?
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>>70714629
You're crazy, it will make 100 million total just because of IMAX and 3D
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>>70713689
Nope it just means Sequel ;) and for the fans that means more than the opinion of some shit critic or image board users.
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>>70714637
>>70714667
so its the latter then? you're tourists??
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>>70714731
>Nope it just means Sequel
Just like Pacific Rim getting a sequel
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Gul'dan stole the show tbqhwy lads

one of the best villains I've seen on screen
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IT NOT MAKIN MONEY SO MUST BE WORSTEST MOVIE EVERRRR!!!!
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>>70714764
>Just like Pacific Rim getting a sequel

PR -is- getting a sequel, they just signed John Boyega to play Elba's son.
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>>70714728

once again

>someone that has no idea how box office works

it's going to only make 25 million this first weekend

movies get around a 2.* multiplier for the run of their films

that means that 25x2.* around 60 million
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>>70714764
But it is?
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>>70714774
His character is all wrong though.
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>>70714793
Who are you quoting, /v/eddit?
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>>70714774
>Gul'dan stop stealing bandwith to shitpost
>But I need it.. I need all of it
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>>70714694
But there is already Witcher the movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg6bz4x8Rvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laq_d_MTLkM
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>>70714805
>>someone that has no idea how box office works

>movies get around a 2.* multiplier for the run of their films
>that means that 25x2.* around 60 million

I sure do love underage summerfags like you that pretend to know what they are talking about.

You're fucking sad kid
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You wanna know why the Chinese box office is so huge?

They only allow 35 for profit films to be shown in the country per year, meaning you only get a handful of productions like Warcraft or Transformers per year. Any movie that manages to get into that list and appeals to young people is bound to make serious amounts of money.
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>>70714820

Without referencing decades old lore, how is his character all wrong?
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>>70714805
Since you are so fucking stupid, I underlined things to make it easier for you to understand.

Warcraft is fucking trash, but if you seriously think it will only make 60 million domestically, you're more retarded than the movie was
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>>70715035
He's a mastermind that acts behind the scenes and controls the Horde with a network of spies and servants and through manipulation and assassination.
He controls Blackhand from the shadows but to the rest of the Horde he's just the chieftain of the Stormreaver clan.
He doesn't invade Azeroth to destroy another world for no reason, he invades Azeroth because he wants to go to the Tomb of Sargeras and steal the secrets keep here.

In the movie he's just a dictator that controls everyone through brute force and wants to corrupt Azeroth because he's evil.
Cliché.
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>>70715119
>In the movie he's just a dictator that controls everyone through brute force and wants to corrupt Azeroth because he's evil.
Nah. I mean you're right on all other points except this one. He wants to invade azeroth for resources considering draenor was all dried up and dead. He had a perfectly good reason for going.
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people on this board has NO FUCKING IDEA how box office works

just shut the fuck up retards

>100 million

>after a 25 million opening

FUCKING CIVIL WAR IS ONLY AT A 2.2 MULTIPLIER RIGHT NOW!!

I know you retards don't understand math but I'll do it for you

Civil War is at 393 million right now

Civil War has good ratings and a good cinemascore

Civil War made 179 million in the first weekend

179 million x 2.2 = 393.8 which is what it's fucking at right now

Warcraft is only going to make around 25 million this weekend

If it somehow gets a 2.2 multiplier let's see what it reaches

Let's say it actually does 26 million this weekend

26x2.2 = 57.2

god damn I know you retards won't read this but just shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about

60 million was being fucking generous and I said "around" 60 million
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Im from Russia and people loved it here for some fucking reason. At work I've heard 40+ yo women talk about warcraft and how its a "kinda fun tale". I dont know the stats, but I think avengers had smaller audience.
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>>70715119

How is him being a shadowy puppet master any less cliché?
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Why did Warcraft do so well foreign vs local?

Chinese botfarmers go see it?
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>pirated the movie
>watching it right now

Holy fuck, it's actually kino and I'm not even shitposting. How can people dislike this?
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>>70715245
That's not a fuckig universal rule you dumb fuck

People are way more likely to rush out and see Civil War
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>>70715245
Is it autism?
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>>70715301
Because it's full of jargon normies don't understand. I've played Warcraft games my entire life and it's very easy to see how people would be really confused by what's going on. There wasn't enough time to thoroughly explain all of the characters and what was really going on. It's a very neutered, watered down version of Warcraft, to the point that it's a generic fantasy movie to anyone but Warcraft fans.
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>>70715287
because normie americans don't like fantasy, specifically "nerd-shit" like warcraft. GoT and LotR have entered the mainstream, Warcraft didn't.
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>>70715310
>That's not a fuckig universal rule you dumb fuck

>he thinks a shitty movie with poor reception is going to have a 4.0x multiplier when nobody fucking saw it the first wekeend

literally fucking retarded and needs to stop posting

he thinks its fucking avatar

he fucking thinks that even if the movie is doing poorly that theaters will keep playing it
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>>70714851
He's not quoting anyone, autist. There aren't even any meme arrows in his post.
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>>70715287

May be it was translated really well? I havent seen it but I assume that viking dude sucks alot of ass. Mb chineese voice actor did much better job for that character?

I know on my own expirience how good voice acting can save a movie. I've seen that McFarlane trash about wild west in english and didnt like it. But when I saw it russian it was fucking hilarious even knowing all the jokes.
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Do those numbers beat The Force Awakens?
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>>70715941
In China.
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>>70715287
>>70715935
It did well in China because Warcraft is fucking huge there; It's like how the Koreans treat Starcraft.

>Mb chineese voice actor did much better job for that character?
It was released in English with Chinese subs.
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>>70713705

>main antagonist is unironically named Diablo

Guaranteed flop
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>>70716109

>It was released in English with Chinese subs.

That's really fucking strange. It's not a french drama are some other pretentious shit. I dont know why would you watch an action movie with subtitles. Seems like a dumb marketing decision.
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>>70715275
Because he's an orc.
Any orc being anything other than a brutal savage is less cliché.
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>>70716316
The chinks that went to see this are probably comparable to the weaboos on /a/ that prefer the native language.
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I just come back from the cinema and it was fucking awesome. I guess you might be a little lost if you don't know anything about the warcraft but still I loved it as a fan.
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>>70714731
>it just means Sequel
thats in chinese
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I know casting the spells through incantations is probably for the best in this movie, but it sounded so goddamn silly and cringeworthy.
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>>70713083
>nearing $300 million worldwide already
USA just got BTFO
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>>70716316

China has a lot of different spoken languages. Sure mandarin is the biggest at 70% of the population but you're basically telling 30% of the population to go fuck themselves by dubbing something into mandarin.

Meanwhile pretty much everyone in China learns the same symbolic writing system. The character for dog is the same across the country but might be pronounced differently depending on region and ethnic group. This system was developed specifically to lead with the multilingual problem of the Chinese state and the fact that China is multilingual is the reason they haven't adopted a phonetic alphabet.
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>"It's so busy being awesome and textured that it forgets to give the audience a reason to care about anything that's happening."
>"This lumbering adaptation was obviously made for fans of the game only, since for the uninitiated (like me) it will be very hard to care about paper-thin characters and a convoluted plot that feels more like a first chapter in an endless, tedious saga of movies full of noise and CGI."
>"Shallow plot, but hey, it's based on a game so how deep can it be? Unlike some, I was able to overlook the flaws and had a good time."
>"While it is visually very impressive, it doesn't soar as emotionally as Jones intended, which is necessary to be truly epic."

These are all valid criticisms. Considering the lore of Warcraft is easy to grasp but still engaging, there's no excuse for the movie to have such a weak story and world building. The characters were weak as well. If you're a fan of Warcraft, you should point this out and provide constructive criticism so the sequel actually becomes good. It can be so much better.
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>>70717062
this. as much as i like the movie for myself, I can see its flaws and hope the directors cut will help solve the problems in the film, and hope they don't cut 40 minutes from the sequel as well.
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>>70717062
>there's no excuse for the movie to have such a weak story and world building
What about the fact a third of the movie was cut?
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>>70717215
Why did they do this anyway?
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>>70713083
Based China
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>>70717236
They probably though there was too much talking and people would only watch it for the action.
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>>70717062
>the lore of Warcraft is easy to grasp
its easy to grasp that its just regurgitated tolkien targeting the young/illiterate, you mean.
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>>70717261
It what ways is it regurgitated Tolkien?
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>>70717236
it didn't test well with US audiences with the extra 40 minutes and the foreign/chinese audiences were bored by the extra 40 minutes. So they focused on making money.
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>>70713083
>bombing in the US
>opened in multiple countries early to low numbers
>only banking on China which started it on a Wednesday to have a bigger "claim of success" number to show
>only expected to do well in Asian countries which obsesses over MMO
No, you apologize
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>>70717306
In the way all of the "high fantasy" genre is regurgitated tolkien?
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>>70713818
This needs to happen. Who's gonna be cast as saradomin?
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>>70717343
I liked how there was a 43% drop from thursday to friday in china.
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>>70713639
>do you actually genuinely believe that box office corresponds to a movie's quality?
You do marvelfag.
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>>70717356
So tell me how it's regurgitated Tolkien. Give me a list of plot or world building points that are just copies of Tolkien's work.
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>>70713083
>10 m Domestic
>276 m Foreign

Jesus. They should make the sequels in Chinese with only Chinese actors.
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>>70717406
an evil wizard raises an orcish army to invade a peaceful (if decaying) land of humans, elves, and dwarves and only one man and one wizard can stop them?

Am I describing warcraft or lord of the rings?
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So with the movie business now seeing how lucrative videogame movies can be, will we see Warhammer movies next? Witcher movies? Bigger budgets? Better actors?
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Bruh

Look at this dude
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>>70717504
LotR.
In warcraft, orcs are aliens and the "evil wizard" is being possessed by a demon that wants to destroy this world for a reason too retarded to write here.
Warcraft is heavily based on Warhammer, and Warhammer, like any high fantasy series has some troupes extracted from Tolkien (mostly the general depiction of elves and dwarves) but saying that it's just "regurgitated Tolkien" makes you look dumb as fuck,
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>>70717528
No, no, no, and no.

As so far, all they've seen is international releases mean pretty much anything that is mindless and pretty will make hundreds of millions, no matter how bad it is.
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>>70713639
That's what disney and marvelfags taught us.
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>>70717558
Bro, you're kinda letting the previously existing lore corrupt (lol) your ability to perceive the warcraft movie objectively.

You're also letting extraneous details confuse you into thinking the formats and plots aren't functionally identical.

But hey, you're the type of illiterate child that is impressed by genre fiction.
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>>70715301
It's legitimately fucking good. My cinema was full of normies and they were having a blast.
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>>70717504
>an evil wizard raises an orcish army to invade a peaceful (if decaying) land of humans, elves, and dwarves
And do you know why? No, because you're a retard that just regurgitates what other people say here.

>land of humans, elves, and dwarves
And about 20 other sentient races.

>and only one man and one wizard can stop them?
I know you haven't played the games, but did you at least watch the movie?
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>>70717528
wait and see how the empoji movie does, then maybe they'll skip video games completely.
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>>70717602
But this was taught to us before marvel even started their thing
Are you new?
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>>70717641
In the warcraft movie orcs are already depicting as aliens you dumb fuck, which makes them radically different to Tolkien orcs.
Sauron isn't even a wizard.
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So now that /tv/ is to the point where it is pleb enough to think warcraft is good, will it start defending transformers next?
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>>70717343
>opened in multiple countries early to low numbers
yes, Georgian and Albanian markets truly matter
you fucking retard
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>b-but muh 500mil marketing budged
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>>70717655
>>70717401

>Production budget: $160 million
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>>70715301
I think the first act was weak, the Garona ending was great though.
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>>70717763
Not an argument. At least pretend you know what you're talking about next time.
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>>70717801
That scene speaks for itself
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>>70717683
Way to prove you aren't young/illiterate.
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>>70717825
How so? It has nothing to do with your claim that it's regurgitated Tolkien.
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>>70717854
>hes now at the point where he thinks everyone trashing warcraft is the same person

its so sad when this happens.
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>>70717854
I'm not the same guy you were arguing with
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>>70717844
Way to prove you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>70715669
>meme arrows

Not him but it reminded me, sometimes I wonder if there are newfags walking around saying shit like this unironically.
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>>70717884
So why did you respond to something completely unrelated to what was being said?
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was that first scene of the knight that picks up the shield fighting the orc with durotan voice over supposed to be in WoW times?

cause "fighting for as long as can be remembered" and that place made me think of the barrens or tanaris
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>>70714972
Never fucking forget

Worst movie in history
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>>70717952
I think it was the Barrens
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>>70714174
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>ctrl f "BvS"
>5 results

Jesus christs disneycucks, when will you stop being salty about Snyder making a better movie than CW?
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>>70717901
All I've really proven is you're a fanboy who can't see anything objectively and is legitimately dumb enough to believe minor changes mean x and x/2*2 are completely different.
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>>70717645
>normies enjoyed it so it's good.
Pls.
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>>70717504
>it has fantasy creatures
>that means it's regurgitated Tolkien!
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>>70718032
You're doing literally the exact same thing except with minor similarities.
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>>70718032
>a fanboy
The movie is complete shit and so has been the Warcraft franchise for more than 10 years.
But you're still a retard.
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>>70718063
>it relies heavily upon the tropes and themes established by tolkien
>but it wiggles things slightly so its completely different!!

I mean, we haven't even gone into how warcraft was originally constructed as a videogame of warhammer, which was a board game of tolkien, but games workshop pulled out, and blizzard, not wanting to waste the work they did, wiggled things slightly (orks became orcs) and released what they'd made as a standalone. Making warcraft twice regurgitated tolkien.
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>>70713083
I T ' S T O O L A T E
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>>70718155
>Evil army vs good army was established by Tolkien (which isn't even the case, since the Orcs were under the influence of magic and aren't inherently evil)
>fantasy creatures were created by Tolkien
You're a moron.

>but it wiggles things slightly so its completely different!!
>slightly
Tell me the lore of Warcraft.
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>>70718298
>Tell me the lore of Warcraft.
Well there are orcs right, but then one of the orcs was raised by humans, and he becomes superawesome and solves all the problems. His name is THRALL and hes superawsome and all the hot girls love me
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>>70718359
That's the story, not the lore.
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>>70718359
shit! i mean him! Love him! hes totally not an idealized self-insert guys!
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>>70713199
Oh shit, conjuring 2 is out. I gotta go see that.
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>>70714764
It is, though.
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>>70718384
If you were even vaguely familiar with the similarion you would be too embarrassed to even ask that.
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>>70718449
Ask what?
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Holy fuck Lothar' son is almost ruining the movie for me

>Looks like a boy band tween
>Terrible fucking acting
>Somehow slaughters Orc after Orc
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>>70718298
>muh noble savages
was a retcon. originally orcs were just evil.
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>>70713199

>nigga acting like conjuring 1 didn't do mad business
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>>70718467
for (you)s in such an obvious manner.

wait what are we talking about
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>>70718449
It's called the Silmarillion, you dumbass.
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I tried watching this movie but I didn't understand anything going on. I tried just reading the wikipedia summary of the plot and still didn't understand. If they wanted to make a movie that could only appeal to fans of the game then they succeeded. No wonder it bombed financially and critically.
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>>70713083
Wow China loves shitty movies. Who would have thought? Meanwhile watch it tank in US.
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>>70718494
>20 million budget
>318 million in revenue
they're going to milk the shit out of this for the rest of our lives.
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>>70713083
Why? The movie was fucking terrible. It was basically saved from disaster by China.
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>>70718298
Lets play a different game. You give me the bulletpoints for the lore as it currently exists and I'll tell you what is and isn't a metzen retcon/addition.

Or I could just find a PDF of the original warcraft manual and you can see for yourself how (embarrassingly) close to tolkien it is.
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>>70718664
>Or I could just find a PDF of the original warcraft manual and you can see for yourself how (embarrassingly) close to tolkien it is.
To Warhammer you mean.
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>>70718664
You just proved to me that you have no idea what the Warcraft lore even is.
You're literally calling something a clone of somebodies work without knowing a single thing about it.
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>>70718706
and warhammer, at the time, was barely distinguishable from tolkien.
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>>70718762
Yeah, it had elves and orcs too.
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>>70718568
it's gonna be the next Saw series. 1 and 2 were good, then the rehashed cancer comes year after year.
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>>70718740
I mean, I expected mental gymnastics, but the level you're currently at is just sad. You're practically in the self-reinforcing delusion stage.

>I'm not going to justify myself because you'd just prove me right therefore there's no point!
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>>70718801
You want me to tell you all about the Warcraft lore because you know nothing about it while also claiming it's a copy of Tolkien. No mental gymnastics in telling you that you know nothing about Warcraft.
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THE AGE OF VIDYAKINO IS UPON US

AND OH WHAT A GLORIOUS DAWN IT IS

WC3 MOVIE WHEN
WITCHER MOVIE WHEN
MORROWIND MOVIE WHEN
MASS EFFECT MOVIE WHEN
DIABLO MOVIE WHEN

THE SUN WILL NEVER SET ON VIDYAKINO!
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>>70718854
No, what I want is to determine what you think of as "the warcraft lore." The shit that was in the original manual, or the shit metzen has turned it into. As warcraft has been retconned so completely and utterly, basically every fanboy has a different idea of what the actual lore is.
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>>70718927
The actual lore is from 1-3.
Tell me how Gul'dan is Sauron
Tell me how Arthas' story is related to Tolkien
Tell me how the Burning Legion is related to Tolkien
Tell me how the Scourge is related to Tolkien
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>>70713083
Well it's done better than Fantastic Four did, that's something.
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>>70719088
So there we go. You're counting post-metzenisms and additional details from mostly the third game as the SO DIFFERENT additions (arthas, legion, scourge) and trying to use those additions to what was essentially tolkien as meaningful.

and those additions weren't even of things that weren't established by tolkien. As aragon unleashes an undead army in lord of the rings and most of the silmarillion was about huge armies of, for all intents and purposes, demons.

also arthas was literally a story of a man becoming a nazgul. Hell, the original lich king was named ner'zhul.
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>>70719274
The third game didn't really retcon much.
They started the portrayal of orcs as "noble savages" but so far it didn't try to retcon what happened on the previous games, that trend started with WoW and that "brown orc" TBC bullshit.
And you can't just say that the undead in LotR and the ones in WC are the same because ones are sentient independent beings that are bound to the world by a broken oath and the others are mindless slaves.
Same with "armes of, for all intents and purposes, demons".
There aren't demons in the LotR universe, there's not even an universe, but a world created by an absolute God.
The cosmology of WC is absolutely divergent from the LotR one, there's an actual universe with planets on it, and there's not a definitive God that created it all, since even the Titans are mortal.
And Arthas wasn't the story of a man becoming a nazgul, it was the story of a man becoming what he hated out of zealously and pride.
It's a story as old as humanity, and claiming that Tolkien invented it is stupid.
Warcraft isn't original, but saying it's a "Tolkien ripoff" it's disingenous, the first game was blatant Warhammer propaganda, the second game diverged from that and the third game diverged even more.
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>>70719274
>As aragon unleashes an undead army in lord of the rings and most of the silmarillion was about huge armies of, for all intents and purposes, demons.
>Aragon unleashing an army of the undead is comparable to the scourge just because they're both undead
>the demons in the Silmarillion are comparable to the Burning Legion because they're both demons
You are trying so hard to bullshit your way through this argument.
I guess Tolkien just regurgitated the Bible and only changed things slightly! There are demons and undead after all!
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>>70714350
Dude, this shot it's not even going to reach 50 million domestic
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>>70718568
May as well.
Both of them are some of the best horror movies in years.
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>>70713647
Transformers 1 was really bad. I went back and rewatched it because I used to like it, but holy shit it was bad.
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OP here, made this thread in hopes to create a big fight between autistic neckbeards and NEETs
>It worked
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>>70719523
That's every thread on 4chan. Congrats.
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>>70714174
Why would they?
Superhero movies are the only movies that consistently break the billion barrier.
Videogame movies are 90% of the times a massive failure.
Warcraft is a special case because of the fanbase in China.
Otherwise, you have to take a look at Rachet and Clank, Angry Birds or Hitman, which were massive flops.
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>>70714174
>let's drop movies that almost reach a billion even if they are turds and start working on the genre with the biggest amount of flops of them all

This is why you are not a businessman.
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>>70718860
Can't wait for more gigantic turds.
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>>70718298
Nigger Warcraft lore is the biggest compilation of fantasy cliches you could ever think of.
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>>70719669

I'll take "Things Disneycucks say" for $500, Alex.
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>>70719705
What's up with the obsession all the nerds of this movie have with Marvel?
Videogame joints are the only thing worse than capeshit since they haven't ever produced a single decent movie.
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>>70719705
I'll take ''Things fat virgins say'' for $1, Duncan.
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>>70719731
They try to make this into a "capecucks vs blizzcucks" thing so they have something to say, when in truth most of the people that hate this movie hate capeshit too.
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>>70719786
I think it's mostly so people talk about it.
They know there's no legitimate discussion to be had, and without bait nobody would even be talking about this thing.
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>>70719765

I'll take "things people who are projecting say" for $.50, Clive.
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>>70719846
It's just a fact only fat nerds are interested in this.
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>>70719876
I love this movie and have already seen it 2 times and I'm pretty sure I'm not a fat nateckbeard

bazinga
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>>70713083
How the fuck does a movie make 30x more money overseas than domestic? Is it Koreans?
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>>70719934
Yes you are.
Also, what's this?
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/Snapchat-1528257879064713313.jpg/
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>>70719954
Chinks have terrible taste in movies and they all spend their day playing that neckbeard game.
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>Blizzard told Uwe Boll to fuck off when he asked if he could direct the movie

Turns out he probably would have made a more enjoyable movie to watch than this SJW mess.
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>>70720021
and he would have done it for 1/5 the budget
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>>70719954
China. They single-handedly saved the movie from disaster.
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>>70719968
it's me telling some people to start lifting? uwot
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>>70719954
China has been obsessed with Warcraft for a long time.
Not only are they insane with WoW, but it was the only country that still held regular W3 tournaments far after WoW was released.
Kinda like Starcraft in Korea.
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>>70715669
>meme arrows

go back to twitter
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>>70719968
He may not be, but you most definitely are.Putting so much effort in this...Autism.
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>>70719934
I see both a double chin and unshaven neck hair in this picture.
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>The $160 million film is expected to perform well in China, where about half of the game's players live, Deadline reported.
S h o c k

So China will be the only ones that give this shit money and everyone else passes.
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>>70720021
what part of the movie was SJW
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>>70713083

I saw it. I liked it. Ragnar killing shit steals the show. It was unapologetic to Normies, just said "Fuck off, we are not explaining SHIT."
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>>70719442
You're clearly arguing from ignorance of the creative process. Its okay, people don't like to think most things are knockoffs of most things, and like to pretend the creative are just slammed with huge completely formed ideas and concepts (that just so happen to fit into a video game format) rather than starting off from basically nothing and building from from there.
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>>70719405
"Noble shamanistic savages" is a huge retcon. There's not so much of a hint of it in the first two games.

But your entire post is pretty telling of the period you consider to be "warcraft lore." You're firmly post wc3. You don't know much about the original lore/story (but you probably read those shitty commissioned books) and you don't see green jesus (and all the bullshit that was retconed to justify him) as all that big a deal.

You're playing word games (universe means cosmology!) and hell, your description of arthas becoming "what he hated out of zealously and pride" is basically identical to a king becoming a slave by seeking power.

You try to say warcraft diverged greatly from tolkien, yet you don't recognize how it never did anything that wasn't already well established by tolkien.
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>>70720972
>"Noble shamanistic savages" is a huge retcon.
They way it's put in WC3? No.
In WC1/WC2 (I've read all the manuals and played WC2+BoTP) orcs are savage warmongers and demon-worshippers, that is all that's established about them, in WC3 the only thing they said was that the demons controlled them, which is not actually a retcon since in the manual of WC2 Gul'dan talks about how Kil'jaeden taught him everything he knew about demonic magic.
It's something that obviously wasn't intended when you play WC2, however, it doesn't retcon anything, all the stuff that happened in WC2 is still there, it's just a poor plot-twist, but not a retcon.

>You're playing word games
If this is all you have to reply then I guess you admit that Warcraft universe is completely different from Tolkien one.
>your description of arthas becoming "what he hated out of zealously and pride" is basically identical to a king becoming a slave by seeking power.
No it's not, Arthas falls because he's obsessed with revenge.
He doesn't seek power per se, he wants to revenge his people and kill Mal'Ganis.
A noble character falling from grace by an obsession with vengeance is nothing particularly original, but it's not anything invented by Tolkien.

>You try to say warcraft diverged greatly from tolkien, yet you don't recognize how it never did anything that wasn't already well established by tolkien.
No matter how much you repeat this like a mantra, it won't become true, I've already told you how the undead in Warcraft are different from the ones in LotR, i've already told you how the demons in Warcraft are different to the "demons" (there aren't) in LotR, I've already told you how the universe of Warcraft is different to the one in Lotr, and I already told you how the divinites are radically different to the ones in LotR, same as magic, yet you still cling to this notion that "high fantasy = Tolkien ripoff" that although not entirely false, you picked one of the poorest examples that exist.
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>>70717655
>an evil wizard raises an orcish army to invade a peaceful (if decaying) land of humans, elves, and dwarves
>And do you know why? No, because you're a retard that just regurgitates what other people say here.
The film doesn't explain anything either (orcs past and shit)

>land of humans, elves, and dwarves
>And about 20 other sentient races.
it doesn't show any of other than those 3

>and only one man and one wizard can stop them?
>I know you haven't played the games, but did you at least watch the movie?
Orcs only die if Lorthar or Khadgar is near
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>>70721456
>a retcon isn't a retcon because it didn't retcon anything that wasn't written yet

yea, you're done.
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>>70722371
No, a retcon isn't a retcon if it doesn't contradict anything that was previously established.
WC3 didn't contradict anything that happened on the First War or the Second War, everything still happened the same way, it just gave an explanation, instead of attributing the bloodlust to their nature like WH Orks, the demons manipulated them, something that although not stated, can certainly fit if you read the WC2 manual.
If you don't even know what a retcon is why the fuck are you even arguing, it was a cop-out but the actual, literal ret-cons started in WoW.
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>>70717528
>lucrative
No they're not
>warhammer movie
A) not a video game.
B) GW will never ever give the rights to anyone after the ultramarines movie.
C) why would you want that, it would be fucking trash as a movie. A TV show cluld be good, but not a movie
>Witcher movies
Nope. I can't think of the last time hollywood used a polish IP, and they couldn't do it well
>better actors
No. after this one, based off of one of the biggest vidya series of all time, needed fucking china to save it, which was only because warcraft has always had it's largest fanbase in china, there no way they'll increase the money needed for a proffit by getting better, and therefore more expensice, actors.
>bigger budgets
No. See above for why.
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>The Force Awakens comes out
M-M-oney doesn't make it good! Right guys?!?!

>Warcraft comes out
B-b-but it's making money! Right guys?!?!

Reddit wouldn't be so bad if they were consistent in their views.
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>>70720740
>You're clearly arguing from ignorance of the creative process
As are you. You're taking any similarities between Tolkien's work and WC and just calling it regurgitated stories and lore. Several people here have shown you over and over how WC is different from Tolkien but you continue to plug your ears and scream about how it's all the same shit.
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>>70723703
>I don't get /tv/, the post

You have one side, that's saying Warcraft will not make any money, flop and never produce a sequel
And you have one side saying it will make money, not flop and produce a sequel.

Currently, the people believing in it not flopping are winning and the other part is on damage control.

Also, kill yourself
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Fantasy Movie League projects it making 22 million this weekend.

22 x 6 maybe.
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I saw this today it was pretty good
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>>70718494
I'll never understand normies and their pleb tastes.
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>>70724630
Whats your taste?
post top 10 of all time, pretend /tv/
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>>70724508
>22x6
Of course anon, Warcraft will be the first movie in the USA to have no drops throughout it's entire run.
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>>70720322
Yeah, clicking on the archive section of the contextual post menu is so much effort.
Then again, you are a fat nerd who defends this movie, of course you consider that a lot of effort.
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it's not even out in Mexico neither sudacas
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>>70722232
>The film doesn't explain anything either (orcs past and shit)
"Our world is dying"
"Guldans magic doesn't just kill his enemies - it kills the land around him"
-Durotan

>land of humans, elves, and dwarves
>And about 20 other sentient races.

Orcs, Draenei, Humans, High-Elves, and Dwarves were shown.

Gnomes might still be in Gnomeregan
Trolls are still on their islands
Night Elves and Tauren are on an entirely different continent - as are pandaren.
Worgen dont exist yet. Its WC1.

>Orcs only die if Lorthar or Khadgar is near
Except a fuckton of them die at the end when they start using muskets/guns.

Lothars son killed quite a few - as did other soldiers.

How about watching the movie next time anon.
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>>70713795
>Overwatch
Just watch a shitty DreamWorks flick, aspie
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>>70725451
Shitty DreamWorks flicks don't have cute waifus.
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>>70717545
>24% RT
Aheheh. Oh nuh nuh nuh, oh nuh nuh nuh. Ohoowuhwuhwuhwuh--
>$10 mil opening
AHAAAA*weezing*hahahaha!
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>>70724936

I mean it's going to make 22x6 this weekend.
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>>70726606
you mean $25
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That's a very very very bad domestic opening, I doubt it cracks 60 million domestically which is not good compared to their budget
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>>70726977
But... But muh china
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post yfw chinks pay for the sequels all up to Mist of Pandaria
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>>70727318
Holy shit Mists of Pandaria movie would probably make every able bodied chinese person go to the cinema. Just think of all the money.
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