>using human bodies as batteries
>the amount of energy they emit is a tiny fraction of the energy required to keep them fed
Why was the Matrix film allowed to be made?
>>70630422
We actually produce a lot of energy. 6 billion equivalent batteries would be more than enough
>the matrix was all a computer simulation, hence why Neo had super powers outside of the "cells"
>>70630422
Not if you feed them liquefied dead humans. Shit sustains itself.
writers changed it from computing to power because they thought people wouldnt understand
>>70630422
It's assuming that computer have the 3 aprior rules of robotics so they couldn't kill humans and had to do what they commanded and could't disobey a humans command and this is just a loophole, so they also use the "energy" which could also include heat, as a sort of thermal nuclear power, just because that's not what they were meant for.
It was just a loophole to control them, not use them as batteries.
>>70630494
>We actually produce a lot of energy
I think you missed the part where
>the amount of energy they emit is a tiny fraction of the energy required to keep them fed
It doesn't matter how much energy they produce since you have to spend even more energy to keep them alive to produce energy in the first place. At absolute best if you had a perfectly efficient mechanism for supplying them the energy needed to keep them alive with zero waste you would approach breaking even and having an amount of energy generated equal to the energy spent instead of less than. Which you could accomplish by just not trying to harvest energy from them in the first place.
>>70630554
For a generation that used AOL dial-up and had no idea what a web-browser was, makes sense.
>>70630494
>what is physics?
Converting energy ALWAYS comes at a loss. Whatever energy (food, heat) the machines were giving the humans is necessarily greater than the amount the humans produced, so the machines would have been better off skipping the humans altogether.
>>70630422
We already know that Zion's knowledge of what's going down is inaccurate, why wouldn't this be as well?
>>70630577
Thus is the problem of entropy. But you assume that the robots are using us as batteries as the PRIMARY function, and not because they CAN'T kill all humans.
>>70630554
Also it provided a sweet line and scene of morpheous holding a battery
>>70630422
The Matrix is more and more of inevitability as human population density rises and rises, since it's an easy way to solve the behavioral sink and don't die en masse.
>>70630641
Yeah, because if they stuck with the orignal script, he would have said something lame and been holding a microchip.
WE WAS COMPUTERZ.
>>70630630
Why couldn't they? It actually seems like a way better idea
>>70630630
>they CAN'T kill all humans
Why the fuck not?
>inb4 they were "programmed not to," if you're sentient enough to have meaningful conversations with humans and orchestrate complicated agendas involving fake worlds and waging war against resistance fighters than you're way past the point of being autistic enough to slavishly follow a rule you were programmed with
The original thing the machines do to humans was too complicated for audiences according to execs and they dumbed it down.
>>70630600
Then the movie has the equally bad flaw of having main characters who are too dumb to recognize how dumb the human battery explanation is.
>>70630675
Oh that would have worked just as good actually.
>>70630422
Because murricans arent taught basic science and wont even notice the problem.
Nor are we taught history.
Or critical thinking.
...or the arts & humanities.
We're taught shit, straight out of cirriculums from the 1800s, and it shows in every area of our society.
Why didn't they use cows or elephants instead of people?
>>70630577
>>70630630
Mate entropy's a matrix lie
Otherwise human minds are good at doing a bunch of things machines struggle with at least on our current knowledge
>>70630504
>thread
Human brains as a component in a neural network to get additional computing power was to hard for the general population to understand.
Its a metaphor for machines having control over humans
The whole trilogy is about the human spirit overcoming control from another force
You shouldn't be allowed to post in forums like these if you are going to take everything literally
>>70630895
The humans blocked out the sun and killed all life trying to stop the machines. Fucking stupid.
>>70630993
Are you sure it's a not a metaphor for realizing that the body you were born in is not the body you have to have?
>>70630422
Maybe we ere more than energy
>>70630712
Because they can't kill their parents
>>70631113
Umm that too but the thread is about the power generation thing.
Doesn't matter why they humans are trapped in the matrix or how they got there is pretty much a macguffin
>>70630712
It's hard wired into robotics in movies and tv shows so much we don't even think twice about it really.
>A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
>A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
>A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.
This is what the machines do in every movie or TV show.
This is not just obscure thing, this pre-dates the first robot used in movies, and is used more or less in real life as much as it is in Movies.
If they were just using humans as Batteries, why even have them living in 7 different fake worlds PREVIOUSLY? There was obviously something deeper then just human potatoes from the first movie.
It could be they could evolve and change in anyways, but it is assumed those 3 laws are IMMUTABLE by machines, and the fact that a million humans were fighting the machines to shut them down, which could kill say billions of humans gives them the weird conflict in that law to kill them.
Machines can follow the third rule by killing if it exceeds lives saved vs lives killed. Why would they kill Zion. The using humans as batteries thing is a lame excuse and not given by the Robots, but the humans. Mistaking higher orders for the most basic part of the computer they know.
Everything from thermal nuclear to geothermal would have been better. Even wind and water power.
They were solar before, but they obviously survived, who knows if that was accurate at all.
We do know the machines shut down in the end, thus following the 2rd law of robotics. It's dumb yes, but with Smith threatening the humans in the matrix, the Deus Ex had to allow Neo the 2nd law because it served the 1st law.
>>70630494
are you not able to read? you fucking idiot
>>70630550
This.
>>70630422
What are metaphors?
>>70630975
I would think using humans as a power source wouldn't be the primary function, but if you think about what our thinking is is electricity, you can even surmise that mistaking the electricity they harvest is for raw energy as opposed to the computational power that it generates actual.
As well as they all have jobs in the matrix more or less.
Has anybody actually watched this movie? The energy wasn't biological energy coming off of human bodies. The machines were harvesting humans' meme magic in the matrix. They were incapable of creating their own, so they needed the humans running in a controlled simulation.
>>70630630
There was literally a human-machine war. The machines won. Do you think they could have won the war without killing humans?
>The robots wouldn't have colonized the moon or something for solar power.
>Wouldn't just about anything make more sense to use as a battery than a human body? Like a potato? Or a battery?
>>70631260
It's like a super intelligent lava lamp.
>>70631269
Metaphor for our brains are batteries.
>>70630993
>create shit, unintelligent writing
> "it's a metaphor"
>>70631328
There was literally a human-machine war.
Do you see humans gone extinct?
By "protecting" humans they can justify "killing" humans. This is only needed if they, like all machines since before robots existed, followed the laws of robotics.
Even the most basic machines used in a manufacturing follow the 3 laws of robotics. When you stick your arm in an elevator door it doesn't crush it. That is the laws of robotics.
>>70630556
You didn't watch the movie at all did you?
The machines did plenty of killing
>>70631330
Notice the digging tools they had, I think they went geothermal. It's best power source.
>>70631335
>our brains are batteries
>machines never once said they use us for electrical power
>>70630712
they didn't want to, i think the movies showed that the machines weren't pure evil. weren't previous matrix's utopias, but humans didn't accept them as real so they didn't work out so instead the created a matrix that was instead the pinnacle of human civilization "1999." the machines didn't have to do that, they could have put them in a dark ages simulation if they wanted to probably.
>>70630975
So thermodynamics are a lie? Then what rules the real world? Magic?
>>70631416
There are more stories of machines violating the 3 laws of robotics by the guy who made the 3 laws of robotics. Hence the term LOOPHOLE.
It's not impossible to violate it, but the movies do show clearly the trope existing on some level or another. The fact they shut down in the end is almost game set match.
>>70630554
no, they had to change it from humans as processors to humans as batteries, because it infringed on another work.
>>70631508
Copyrights are cancerous
>>70631508
But that's essentially the same thing as what batteries are, is what our thinking is. there is no other process that goes on when we think beyond electricity, the biochemical compound just affects moods.
>>70631319
Morpheus claim himself it was electricity from our heat, much like a thermoelectric plant. He even mentions it's measured in BTU's.
Which is stupid since they could of build actual thermoelectric plants to get electricity from the earths core or near a volcano or even some sattlelites and getr above the nano cloud thingy that blocked the sun.
>>70630577
>It doesn't matter how much energy they produce since you have to
The human machine has been evolving for over millions of years. The machines they created had only been in existence for just a few centuries. Metabolism (ATP->ADP+N) ranks in the top among energy production efficiency, even if it is only ~18-22% efficient.
tl;dr - The machines pulled a China, and ripped off an already proven design to use for their own benefit.
My question is: Would they have just ended the whole harvesting program after they built solar panels above the cloudline, or would they have kept them around for their amusement a la Agent Smith?
>>70631575
>Morpheus
Machines never claimed this is what humans were for.
>>70631402
They are not protecting us, they own us. Cattle. Any rancher can shoot and eat their cattle but that means fuckinf up the bussiness and starving afterwards.
Machines use us, that's it
>>70631594
Doubtful they would have stuck to Solar Power since that's what they used before,
Agent Smith was the reason they shut it down.
>>70631575
maybe they did? who says human were their source of energy? granted, i don't think it was mentioned they did this in the movie, but still, they never said humans were their only source.
>>70630675
That actually totally changes the philosophy from "the big corporate machine" is using us for our energy = labor vs. we are being used for our ideology/minds... which is a bit more all encompassing and complex
>>70630422
>the amount of energy they emit is a tiny fraction of the energy required to keep them fed
the machines also use brain power as in human brain computing power which results in much larger yields, most of what human eat is infact burned by the brain which doesn't actually produce any kinetic energy like a muscle, machines however could have a lot of use for that computing power
did you plebs even pay attention to what morpheus was saying?
> "The human body generates more bio-electricity than a 120-volt battery and over 25,000 BTU's of body heat. Combined with a form of fusion the machines had found all the energy they would ever need."
> Combined with a form of fusion
> a form of fusion
machines probably stole shitty early fusion from humans and used the matrix to help augment it
>>70630422
The same reason you eat food you don't really need: because you can.
>>70631729
we eat food we dont need because we like it
>>70631643
>Agent Smith was the reason they shut it down.
He was just a overzealous program that was to be killed in the reboot/reinstall. Ironic, due to the fact his existence is the reason the machines decided to stop the cycles.
But as the other guy said, the machines had objectives to complete in the Matrix, so do you think they would of kept the humans around? My guess is yes, due to the fact they were a 'growing' species and just as we had done in creating AI, Pandora's curiosity and desire to keep learning would have kept the AI learning about its creators. The flip side is no better either, because if they transferred all the machines to the real world, they essentially just would of traded places with the humans and been faced with the same basic problems such as sustainability, vast numbers/reproduction, etc etc.
>>70631638
>A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
Replace the word "human" with "cow" and it's the same law. This is what ranchers do. Machines that are superior to us, will be more like ranchers/gods then equals obviously.
This is interesting because the matrix does being up some hinduist beliefs into mix.
All ranchers do shoot and eat their cattle. That's what cattle are for. You just can't kill ALL the cattle. So when it comes to "human being" it's seen as a broadest term possible, and not the individual. The survival of the human being must continue because that's what the first law says.
This is why it should say a robot may not injure ANY human being, since robot after a singularity will not see each robot as an individual but as a collective whole and may see a human being as the same thing, a collective whole and not a series of individuals. It would be egocentric, to the definition.
The 3 laws isn't something it would feel emotional about, but just tasks it would have to obey, like the constitution. The government on every level and society as a whole has to obey it, but people are ALWAYS trying to get around it.
>>70631761
the machines liked us, they just wanted to stop the wars and their enslavement perpetrated by humans.
What if they used Goku as a battery? Could Goku get redpilled if he was in the Matrix?
>>70631672
but essentially the same thing, since our brains are just emitting electircity it would pick up to read our thoughts, just the same.
You could say morpheus just misinterpret it, because we obviously connect our brains to the matrix in the movie, so it is reading the 'electrical' impulses.
>>70630422
>Not knowing basic chemistry
>Conservation of energy
//Thread//
>>70631666
>>70631692
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IojqOMWTgv8
At least, Morpheus was convinced it was their only energy source. But, we all know, he was a fanatic convinced Neo was the one, but he was wrong at that.
If we follow the thesis of Smith being the one.
>>70631801
It's the ultimate utopia.
Everyone wake up
>>70630993
disagreed.
Movie is a shoddily constructed allegory of the cave (which in itself, is already a shitty allegory)
It has the philosophical musings of a middle schooler and the only saving grace it has is style.
>>70631849
>Duracell™
Stopped watching there.
>>70631795
Huh. Your point makes it sound like there are exceptions to the 3 rules of robotics: they are meant for the collective and not the individual
But those laws ARE meant for individuals, that's why we already have drones that target and kill people, they simply cannot have those 3 rules since they were designed and built to kill humans.
>>70631793
I think the real thing to look at is,were teh computer evolving. I doubt they were growing the same as humanity would have, since the core programming wouldn't have been made for an infinte expansion and growth like humans have the capacity for.
robots don't really care about colonies on mars, and the exploration of deep space. They seemed to just be happy with harvesting humans, and expanding along earth while making cool VR.
As a singularity, it would have been focusing all energy to the Matrix. Where as humanity as a set of individuals all have different tasks that go parallel to each other and usually do benefit synergistically. It's not perfect, but it's not the same hivemind that only focuses on a single tasks, without asking WHY are we doing this.
The laws of robotics would at least conflict at some times, and make the machine inefficient, maybe even more so then humans would be.
But for all we know, they already had probes for colonization sent out to millions of solar systems like the empire looking for the rebel base.
>>70631920
I feel like I've seen a parody before with the energizer bunny in that scene
>>70631920
it didn't actually show Duracell, just
>THE COPPER TOP™
>>70631920
>hating the duracell scene
trying too hard m8
>>70630762
It was the test audience who were too dumb. They didn't understand that the machines were using humans as processors so they switched it to batteries. With all the metadata these days that story line would have been far more relevant.
>>70631986
>liking obvious product placement
Fuck off Mr. Goldstein
>>70630422
Should have used cows
>>70632051
I think the machines couldn't justify genocide so this was their compromise. Animatrix fleshes this out a bit IIRC.
>Ok guys here's our fool proof plan. The machines rely on solar power, so we'll block out the sun!
>Don't we need the sun too, for like crops and stuff?
>Fuck off.
>And also, these are incredibly advanced sentient machines. Can they really not figure out how to build a nuclear power plant, or a hydroelectric dam, or even just burn some fucking coal?
>I said FUCK OFF.
>>70631929
They can, because a Singularity, like the terminator, or whatever happened in teh matrix, is a point when computer intelligence goes beyond humanity's capacity.
The Singularity, as the name implies, makes Robots, all as one.
There is Individuals.
Just an Individual.
In the Matrix it was named Deus Ex.
In Terminator it was called Skynet.
It's just one 'person'. All the machines, all the robots, all the squids, all the individual moving parts of the entire planet of endless fields of human 'batteries' is ran and operated by ONE being.
The Matrix, was in some ways the first time it would have had conflicting personalities. Individuals, plural. But those are virtual, computers, artificial intelligence.
Computers are not the same as Robots.
So the Deus Ex in the matrix movie was one sentient of the entire Machine world.
>But those laws ARE meant for individuals, that's why we already have drones that target and kill people, they simply cannot have those 3 rules since they were designed and built to kill humans.
The laws were MADE by individuals and ARE made for individuals.
But if you were to follow those laws without being an individual, as in you were "born" as being a singular, like Skynet, you wouldn't be applying it to individuals, since you are singular. The rules don't STATE it's for individuals. You know it's that way, since all life on earth has empathy.
Except machines. Machines don't have empathy. that's what Egocentric means.
As an Egocentric person you think that lions think and act like you do. As a computer, you'd be able to program EXACTLY how a lion works, because that's how you function, it's all command lines.
So as a Egocentric Singular Sentient life Born only even knowing the Singular life the 3 Laws would seem odd if you applied to each individual, and NOT the collective whole.
As Skynet you'd probably even say
>But those laws ARE meant for collective whole
>>70631453
Maybe they just realized we couldn't live in harmony with them and put us in the Matrix "For our own good"
>>70632079
they didn't need to justify anything, they won.
It was a survival war though, they needed to win no matter what or the humans would have destroyed them. The machines wanted peace from the beggining, they even settled in an isolated island but maintained commercial relations.
Then the attacks began, eventually destroying the atmosphere to prevent sunrays from getting to the Earth. It was completely clear that humans had to be stopped no matter what.
Then humans as a war compensation rejected their legal subject status and became legal objects, so machines could do whatever they wanted with them
>>70631929
They could even regard "individuals" as the collective sum of a populces. As in the "hivemind". So even if it was made for individuals, it sees the rules as applying to all the individuals, collectively.
A robot, is all the robots, and A human being, is all the human beings, as a collective whole of individuals that make teh sum total of that unique and distinctive species.
We must not kill all of the human beings as a sum total.
It could be the First Law is talking against genocide, more then murder.
>>70630422
your right to liquifie a human you need a chemical reaction way too much energy used there and the electricity you make when you swing your arm 50000 times a day 2 inches in supercoinductor fluid makes no static electricity im pulling things outta my ass as i think about them is it that hard for you to think for 1 second?
>>70632275
So since the humans would die off since we can't grow food beyond mushrooms, the Matrix had to made to save use, thus following the first Law of Robotics.
>>70632294
most likely.
>>70632388
>a chemical reaction
it's called bacteria, you'd just need any amount of heat.
That's how nature DO. We have a complex immune system to STOP this from happening.
>>70632388
Putrefaction is the 5th stage in the process of decomposition following Pallor Mortis, Algor Mortis, Rigor Mortis and Livor Mortis. This process references the breaking down of a body of a human or animal after death. In broad terms, it can be viewed as the decomposition of proteins and the eventual breakdown of the cohesiveness between tissues and the liquefaction of most organs. This is caused by the decomposition of organic matter by bacterial or fungal digestion, which creates the release of gases that infiltrate the body's tissues and leads to the deterioration of the tissues and organs.
>>70632275
This
Rewatched the Matrix and rolled my eyes at the "Scorching the sky" bit, what the fuck does that even mean?
Why did Neo have super powers in the real world?were they in another level of the Matrix?
>>70631508
What was the other work?
Can Neo beat Superman?
>>70632473
He didn't have powers in the real world really. He just could emit codes that caused sentries to explode. He became more of a transmitter than a demi-god
>>70632275
Being REALLY smart, isn't the same as being able to build a nuclear power plant.
I mean... computer can already calculate faster than any human ever, but still can't open a can of pop.
You think Trekkies are Autistic, how autistic do you think a computer Singularity would be.
LITERALLY OFF THE CHARTS. IT WOULD REDEFINE AUTISTIC.
some people wounder if a computer gained singularity if it would even be functional at all, and not just lost in it's own virtual world, LIKE MATRIX, but just forever lost in a world of a fantasy of math and numbers that don't even equate to real world applications, just fancy "fractal" math.
>>70632514
that's retarded
How would the matrix look now seeing as it's not 1999 anymore and the internet is better?
>>70632473
Obviously. He could see even.
>>70632537
fine it was magic. Neo had powers because of magic
>>70632558
Or they were in another Matrix along inception style
>>70632473Yes
Zion was just a quarantined off level of the Matrix where the machines put the rare humans that for whatever reason couldn't accept the default Matrix. They created a "real world" where those people would think they're "free" and fighting the machines, to keep them pacified. Nobody in the entire series ever leaves the Matrix.
>>70632544
How would Star Wars look now....
How would Ghostbuster look now...
how would Batman look now...
How would Conand look now...
How would Robocop look now...
Yeah I think we know, more CGI, less storyline, look at the Marvel movies to really know exactly how it would look.
>>70632577
Why wasn't this a twist at the end?
>>70632577
They did it 7 times before, the exact same way.
>>70631505
why would they use asimov laws? not even the same universe.
>>70632577
No. Neo and the humans liberated others from the matrix and they didn't necessarily rejected the matrix, just a bit of curiosity was enough to get a red pill and get out.
Cypher made a deal to get back, he clearly didn't rejected it and he lived in Zion for a time
>>70631480
Humean constant conjunction
>>70632631
Everyone uses Three Laws of Robotics. Even the Elevators in a building. It's called common sense.
>>70632280
>The rules don't STATE it's for individuals.
Yes, they do. It says, "A human," not, "THE human," making it clear that there is more than one. You're arbitrarily assuming that a programmed machine wouldn't understand the syntax that governs it's own programming.
>>70632610
I always thought it was pretty heavily implied during the conversation with The Architect, like >>70632623 said
>>70632646
So what about the keymaker and the werewolves and the twins from the other levels of the matrix.
You think that you can never go back?
Who else here saw the 2nd movie in theaters and hated it? Saw 3 years later on DVD and it sucked.
Was that Julie Dreyfus or Monica Belluci in the second one? They look alike.
>>70632646
What I'm saying is that Neo and the other humans only thought they left the Matrix, when in reality they were just transferred to the Zion "program"
There's no other way to explain Neo being able to see code while blinded, or any of his "powers". Neo most likely realized that Zion was still not the real world at some point. Since it was just another level of the Matrix, he could "bend the rules" just like always.
Neo's ability to comprehend the layered nature of the Matrix is what makes him "the one" - he's that rare anomaly that achieves enlightenment and sacrifices himself to keep the cycle going
It's all very linked to that old joke
A monk asks his mentor "what is the nature of the world?"
Mentor says "it rests on the back of a turtle"
Monk asks "what does the turtle stand on?"
Mentor laughs and says "my child, it's turtles all the way down"
>>70632773
Sounds about right, theres bound to be a percentage of the population that rejects the matrix, out of all 70000000 humans its extremely low theres only about a quarter of a million humans in zion
>>70632663
"the human" would state an individual human more clearly then "a human".
It's not a programmed machine as much as it is a singularity. It would be the first machine to ever consider what the Laws actually mean. All machines to this day don't consider the 3 laws, only the humans that make them/use them do.
It could read the individual as the same as it applies to all individuals. It would regard all humans as A Human Being, thus all Humans are A Human Being.
How do you obey the First Law when a Milion Humans want kill A Billion humans.
So even though the rules are for the INDIVIDUALS it's not stated it's to be treated on a case by case basis for individual humans, especially when it has to apply that to each one. Then the First Rule would have overlap and conflict. The people of Zion are trying to violate the people of the Matrix First Rule.
It's assumed that a sentient computer would react much like a human brain and weight the percentages. Percentage thinking is what the newest avenue for "realistic" AI is going, since that's how the human minds works. This is what experience and wisdom is really. The more you encounter something the more accurate of percentages you have on making decisions.
Either way, the "individual" is not the same as "individuals"
One is a singular one is a collective. It might even be Deus Ex is a singular collective. It's probably more a Hivemind then it is single personality.
Like the Borg. It would be a new type of pronoun for us to even relate to.
There we go. What is an individual to the Borg? Why would you expect the Borg to treat individuals the same as we do. That's really more what the Matrix is. The Borg following The Three Laws.
Which is REALLY fucked up, and the whole reason for the Matrix world to even exist.
>>70630422
Blame the producers. The Wachowskies wanted to do something different but the producers thought it would be too complicated and told them to do this.
>>70632973
Joel Silver
>>70630422
The Matrix is a jobs program, remember when Neo meets the Architect he mentions that they can survive without the Matrix, in reality there's a surplus of machines in the machine society so the Matrix was created to keep them busy and make them feel an important part of the community.
>>70632973
>humans are used as processors to gain bitcoins
>>70632773
Also I'd like to add
Neo and Smith were probably meant to show two spiritual paths. Smith wanted enlightenment - freedom. He wanted to "get out". Knowing the Wachowskis, Smith represents the urge to be enlightened and get free of the wheel of life/death/rebirth (remember his speech in the first movie? He despises the prison of the flesh)
The problem is that Smith is forcing it. We're told in the first movie that it doesn't work that way. The little proto-buddha kid tells Neo about the spoon. Neo doesn't get it yet, but his path is the correct one.
Neo realizes that just like "there is no spoon", there also is no "real world". It's just you that bends, not reality. It doesn't matter if the Matrix is real or Zion is real or if nothing is real. It's real enough to him ("you think that's air you're breathing?")
Smith is trying to bend the spoon, escape to a real world that doesn't exist. Neo fucks his shit and resets the Matrix by realizing that nothing is real and everything is real at the same time. He gets free by transcending the system.
tl;dr - Smith is trying to bend the spoon (escape the matrix)
Neo realized there was no spoon (everything is the matrix)
Human brains are essentially very specialized pattern recognition devices. Our brains are very adept at grouping things together and finding patterns with very little information input. Which is why we naturally find patterns/images in clouds, random inkblots, woodgrain etc.
So, there are a lot of things that are tremendously complex for a computer to do, but relatively simple for the human mind. Captchas, for example, are based off this principle.
The machines using a network of human minds in that sort of capacity, either for high-level analysis or even for something as simple as optimizing their sorting algorithms, would have actually make a lot of sense.
It's a shame the Wachowskis didn't go with a better explanation.
>>70633180
>Neo and Smith were probably meant to show two spiritual paths. Smith wanted enlightenment - freedom. He wanted to "get out".
So it was actually 2001: A Space Odyssey, again.
>>70630819
maybe you shouldn't have went for that gender studies degree you stupid fucking cuck. the only thing that's wrong with the usa are people like you
>>70630819
>cirriculums
Speak for yourself, bud.
>>70633359
>Captchas, for example, are based off this principle.
Then why the fuck does it dissappear every time I need to click on bodies of water?
CHECKMATE HUMANS
Humans were used as batteries, not power generators.
The machines had a way of generating energy like nuclear but needed some way to store it en mass for long term. So they used excess energy to run the matrix and took out energy when they needed it.
>>70633629
you need to click on more then one to verify.
>>70633414
Was it? Because I don't remember Hal wanting to get out, or becoming a rogue element at all. He was functioning perfectly as programmed, and not outside of that parameters at all.
Humans were just making errors, and not realizing the deeper nature of what is reality.
you know until the third act, because "LMAO THE TRIPPY HIPPY ERA"
Color Field is the worest art movement to ever come out.
test for janitor deletion
>>70630422
the same reason any movie is allowed to be made
to make more money
... duh!!!
This was a studio suggestion
In the script the AI used the human mind to construct a network it inhabited
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>>70631416
The amount of samefagging in this thread is really pathetic. Fucking cringe worthy for op to try to make his point and try to feel smart and important
Wow,. New levels of autism have been reached today
>>70630504
Dont you remember the sequels?
>>70630577
>feeding them a pound of shitty liquid concentrated nutrients a day through a hose
>thats a lot of energy, more than emitting 98F heat 24/7
Jamal go back to school
>>70631113
fucking kek
What's that all about anyways? Is it a stunt?
they're harvesting their spiritual energy. you "redpilled" goyim wouldn't understand.
It takes place in the future you nignogs. they might have the tech to harvest humans that we dont'. inb4 it's not possible cuz muh physics. Every fucking time we discover something new, we thought it wasn't possible before. you're literally the cancer that's holding back science.
>>70632029
I wonder how many movies have been damaged by retarded test audiences.
Would have been better if the machines used humas as computers.
>>70630422
They used brainpower, zion just does not know the truth
