>>70586481
This was an interesting thread and I wasn't finished reading/discussing.
Let's hear your ideas, /tv/.
If the main character dies, the audience gets shot
>>70599004
Horror doesn't need saving.
this
>>70587228
it doesn't need to be fixed. there's always been bad horror and good horror. I wish there was more good studio horror though, it's rare to see a good horror movie that had a budget.
Stop found footage films. They are fucking awful.
>>70599004
People don't want anything original, or scary for that matter. They want Paranormal Activity, and found footage. They want the same thing over and over and over.
>>70599272
kek when the reason for somebody recording every thing is that they have autism
Why bother? Anyone who find that shit genre or any of its subgenres to be terrifying deserves to be shot for the better of humankind.
>>70599086
screencapping for reddit
Horror doesn't really need to be fixed, but most studios just rely on jump scares and loud noises instead of coming up with something that is actually mindbogglingly frightening. Probably mostly because that shit sells and is reliable, and secondly because horror is not taken very seriously as a genre.
Horror in all of its complexity is actually pretty simple, you would just need to tap into that primal fear and it's all just creative writing from there. Fear of the unknown, uncanny valley, unnaturally proportioned/twisted humans, absurd situations, surreal visions etc.
Picture related, it's so simple yet so fucking spooky.
>>70599391
I don't get scared by horror films, I like them because I find (rather found) them interesting. My favorite ones are those that thread a very thin line between horrifying and mundane.
>>70599460
shoo shoo skunk ape
>>70599434
sauce on manga
>>70599514
Don't know where it's from, but I can post the rest. It's only 4 pages.
>>70599004
>no found footage
>no CGI ever
>no jump scares
>no PG-13, only R and above
>no narratives revolving around young teens
>no narratives revolving around annoying toddlers
>no paranormal stories where the ghost is a teen girl with greasy black hair, white skin, and a tattered, white lace dress and barefoot
>no more home invasion with nothing else of substance
>nothing set in an asylum
>no comedy. there is no such thing as a horror-comedy. horror. comedy. pick only one.
>no split personality bullshit
>no happy music ever
>no contemporary pop music ever
>nothing set in a cabin in the woods ever
>no fat guy with some type of bladed weapon chasing teens in the woods ever
>nothing to do with the Internet or social media whatsoever
>no more remakes
>no teen high school movies disguised as horror
>no more zombies unless you can bring something REALLY fresh to the genre
>>70599546
>no female protagonists
>>70599544
Honestly, new generations of kids saw real beheadings, real massacres and such disturbing shit before they were 10 years old, so slasher horrors are a moot point as it is.
Horror is feel of discomfort, not the genre,so, it just needs to check what is modern person most afraid of and multyply it by 10.
I bet you scariest movie would be if just all of a sudden electricity dissapears(because :Reasons).
>>70599572
The end.
>>70599604
what.
Was it suppose to be an Owl?
>>70599434
whats so spooky about the pic you posted? Is the face hidden somewhere?
>>70599636
kid is looking at that Oni while time...
are you trooling me softly?
>>70599647
*whole
>late evening
>someone alone in his home, making dinner for himself or something
>phone rings, he answers it
>gentle voice in the phone says "Hello, this is the phone company. We're just informing you that we're fixing some lines, so if your phone rings inside the next 10 minutes you should just ignore it"
>few minutes passes, phone rings again
>he picks up the phone out of curiosity
>now distorted voice says "I TOLD YOU NOT TO PICK UP THE PHONE" *click*
I don't know where to go on from here.
>>70599647
I didnt see the whole comic, just the first pic and was wondering about the spookyness; now that i've seen all three pics i understand - though i dont really think its that well done.
>>70599691
Hey, this is a decent plot for my upcoming flick. thanks, anonymous!
>>70599691
>then ayy lmaos come out of his attic
someone continue
Movies that are relatable generally generate the most fear. Examples such as the Silence of the Lambs and Jaws leave a lasting impression on the audience as they can easily relate it to their own lives.
>>70599604
>>70599572
>>70599544
>>70599434
This wasn't spoopy at all. is it an ayy lmao or what?
>>70599691
>I don't know where to go on from here.
Because it's a shit idea.
>>70599779
>Jaws
How can that be relatable to anyone who lives in the midwest?
>>70599546
But Anon, the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre was disturbing as fuck and it had
>narratives revolving around teens
>gat guy with bladed weapon chasing teens in the woods
>jump scares
>>70599820
I think he's trying to say it's more relatable than vampires and zombies
you autist
>>70599820
People were terrified to go in their bath tubs after the movie. I'm sure mid-westerners who have never been to the ocean before would probably be more reluctant in doing so if they got the chance.
>>70599858
DON'T EVER FUCKING REPLY TO ME AGAIN
>>70599830
But it wasn't just an autist killing people. It was an autist who would kill you and wear your face killing people.
>>70599830
They were like early twenties. And it was a chainsaw, not a bladed weapon like a ax or knife. And there was more to the story involving the family and the house. It was one of the first, so it gets a pass. I am talking about all the copy cats in the past 40 years or so. Just stop already. That has been done in the '70s and '80s. Doesn't need to be done anymore.
>>70599004
Do away with muh psychological horror bullshit
we need more physical embodiment's of a threat
>>70599779
>Silence of the Lambs
>relatable
How so? That shit is even more outlandish than most fantasy flicks.
>>70599870
>People were terrified to go in their bath tubs after the movie
>A big ass shark can fit inside of a bathtub
>>70599004
Deep Sea terror.
Tentacles, a lot.
>>70600050
Lusty tentacles?
>>70599604
spooky
>>70600037
I never said people were smart
>>70600070
NO IT'S NOT FAGGOT
>>70599996
There's one big problem with TCM clones.
Instead of making the cannibal clan more realistic and frightening they just make them more over-the-top because LOL REDNECKS.
Going Elfie Hopkins routeeven though that movie was fucking boringand making the villains a normal at the first glance family would be more interesting and creepy.
>>70600024
>outlandish
Why? It was about serial killers and FBI agents.
Here are some that exist in real life and have done similarly heinous shit.
Green River Killer
Bundy
Gacy
Dahmer
Gein
BTK
Manson crew
>>70600163
yea it is
I'm amazed at how gooks manage to get their epic twists into short stories like that. Those nips truly are at the cutting edge of the horror genre. Fucking japs.
>>70600207
Junji Ito is the best at horror.
>>70600163
This.
>muh spooky, distorted faces
>>70600187
Buffalo Bill is too unbelievable. They tried to have a mish-mash of serial killers in one character and ended up with a cartoonish as fuck villain.
Norman Bates is a better Ed Gein-inspired character.
The Groke is scarier than anything you can come up with. Prove me wrong.
>>70600257
GROKED
>>70600252
I used to watch all the Hannibal Lecter stuff as a kid and thought it was fun, so I guess you're right about cartoony.
>>70600275
That moment when you realize it's game over for you.
>>70600224
Yea this is true. Shit like the hole in the mountain story and the one about the dreams that feel like they last for years are fucking spooky as fuck. No weeaboo here, no western horror has genuinely spooked me as much as the work of him.
>>70599004
more stalkers/slashers.
less supernatural shit.
also versify the gender and race of the antagonist.
>>70600252
You are in the extremely small minority with that opinion.
>>70599004
WHAT MVOIE TITLE? SAY IT!
>>70600227
Spooky faces are pretty spooky to be fair.
>>70600296
Have you read Ito's Frankenstein manga?
>>70600289
Dolarhyde is a more believable serial killer.Too bad Red Dragon the movie is shit, Manhunter Dolarhyde is awful and Hannibal went full fanfic instead of adapting the book properly..
I just can't take Buffalo Bill seriously he's too exaggerated.
How about they advertise a movie as something else other than a horror film. They can promote it as a silly romcom and wait until audiences get into he theater and scare the fuck out of thrm.
>>70600344
But would you fuck him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjgHbRrnjhU
>>70600344
Would you fuck him though?
>>70600339
Nah I haven't, is it comparable to his other stories? I really love his endings.
Apparently he was going to be involved in Kojima's Silent Hills until Konami canned it
>>70600430
It's just Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, but in manga form. It's great.
>Silent Hills
I'd heard that, but I already gave up hope on Kojima ever making anything again.
>>70600344
Delete this
Let directors and writers do what they want instead of homogenizing every movies on the same mold.
Jump scares aren't a bad thing in the appropriate movie. CGI can work in a setting and practical effects work in another one, etc.
The worst sin a horror movie can commit is trying to be like another succesful horror movie just for the sake of it. A movie doesn't eed to have everything in it. That makes the tone too uneven, and tone is very important in the horror genre.
>>70600473
I can't. Only yourself can delete your own post.
Im planning on seeing Krampus soon.
Is it good?
>>70600459
Kojima has his own production company now so hopefully he'll be making games soon. And seeing as Konami own the rights to MGS and Silent Hill he should be making something original too.
That's if he decides he's not going to wank his time away meeting film directors and posting about it on twitter
>>70599004
step away from the supernatural. Find another way to scare people
How about a story that deals with the loss of free will? No longer controlling not just your actions, but your desires. Like hypnosis or something?
>>70599514
I think it's a Junji Ito story, but I dunno which one.
>>70600663
Upstream Color kind of did that, even though it's not horror
>>70600224
No he isn't, his endings are usually terrible (if there are any) and ruin the rest of the story.
>>70600310
>Boohoo, someone has a different opinion.
>>70600712
Name someone better.
>>70599004
Horror has always been a shit genre with a few gems that elevate it. They are cheap and easy to produce.
>>70600224
>tfw i've recently ordered HC copies of Uzumaki and Gyo.
>tfw the complete works of Tomie will finally be collated and released in one large edition this December
>>70600712
i disagree
>>70600815
I've got that hardcover Uzumaki. There's some hilarious stuff at the end about Ito's encounter with the Spiral Hermit.
>>70600879
Can't wait, loved his work for years and it's finally time i threw some money his way without dealing with scalpers.
>Tomie in it's 3 current editions are between £40 and £100+
>>70600344
That scene where he screams while looking down the well as the girl screams is so fucking cartoonish that it's actually hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQb2m6VJ-eo
>>70599425
Reeeeeeeeee XD
Horror needs to scale back the stakes and scopes. Not every movie should be an end-of-the-world type scenario. Not every monster should be unstoppable/all-knowing. Not every action scene should be grandiose.
I watched Deliverance yesterday (last time was more than a decade ago), not horror, I know, but the small scale and small dangers had me more on the edge of my seat than the usual over-the-top scenes we've become accustomed to.
I liked the idea of It follows, but they fucked it up.
>It turns into small boy and screams for a jump scare, even though it never made a noise before
>It rapes people to death
>It, when faced with a body of water, suddenly stops doing what it's been doing throughout the movie and starts throwing lamps at the main character
What were they thinking?
The movie "nesseltal" will change the whole genre, mark my words
Screenshot this post
>>70600583
I found it enjoyable
>>70601840
It's to show that the only "rules" the thing has is self-imposed ones and they're only for messing with it's victims' heads. You can see it "breaking" some of the rules even before the pool.
>>70599544
>>70599514
its called fuan no tane
>>70600696
not every horror artist is junji ito
We need titties back.
>>70601887
Meh, it's just a bad Army Dog rip-off with the 'horror' label on it.
>>70600989
hes supposed to be mocking her
>>70599004
make more goosebump movies. that'll bring something refreshing to the genre at least. there's a variety of goosebump stories and they can be done with varying degrees of seriousness depending on the director. just start a fucking GCU already
>>70602070
i dont think its for messing with the victims heads, the rules were never there to begin with, its to show that it had to get smarter to get to the characters and that it was truly unstoppable instead of a dumb zombie
Make more grounded horror-thrillers based on real world horrible things like serial killers/stalkers/cults/hostage situations/kidnappings/spree killings/terrorism/warfare/prison/ect.
Scariest experience I've had in a movie was Zodiac since it involved horror situations that really did happen to random people.
Supernatural or heightened reality stories fail to scare me since they're too obviously not real to have a worry in the back of my head of that happening to me one day.
>>70602096
>Army Dog
what?
I dont think you know what im talking about
>>70599494
This. There's something about this painting that always gets to me. It's feels like it's straight out of the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
Find me a horror movie that came out in the past five years that had better atmosphere, effects, characters, music, and story
>you can't
this was a decent start
Dont advertise and market it as as a horror, have it start out as a normal drama and have it turn into horror later, with subtle hints leading towards whats happening. This would be hard to do right because the audience will probably just complain that it isnt what they thought it was but thats the point, and past the initial release the facade is gone.
I find that horror movies arent scary because you go into them expecting to be scared, and when you expect it you arent scared.
>>70602537
bone tomahawk had better characters
>>70600353
MFW they did the opposite with The Village and now everyone thinks it's hot garbage when it's not really that bad (not particularly good either tho)
>>70602539
I loved the Witch but it could've been scarier. The ending was good but they should've done more.
>>70602566
Okay, that's fair. Bone Tomahawk was amazing too because it was a mix of genres which I think makes the scary parts way scarier.
Make more movies like It Follows, even tho I think that movie is mediocre, it shows how shit the horror genre is if that is what's considered quality.
>>70599004
I think most horror movies these days aren't really effective because they're really played out and cliched.
Which isn't really about today, and more about how horror movies have been since ever. From monster movies, to sci-fi creatures to slasher films, to remakes of foreign horror movies to found footage to torture porn to today's mixed bag of paranormal spirits and remakes.
Horror movies have always worked on trends, and most of the time the horror movies that stand out are the ones that weren't in that trend, or the ones that started a trend.Not dissing on the movies that followed the trends. But fucking seriously there's just so many ways you can make a movie about a haunted house before it gets tiring.
So I guess we'd first need that studios would be more willing to risk with different horror ideas? And then the general horror rules of:
>Total danger and complete vulnerability
>Atmosphere is always key
>Never make the audience feel too safe (Humor/quips/that one funny character, the characters fight back/hatch a plan, the movie gets fun, etc...)
>Remember that horror is something that gradually builds up from just eerie/creepy to an inescapable situation of hopelessness and fear.
>No. Happy. Endings. At least not in the traditional sense.
There, these are the only rules that I think should always be followed, the rest is up to the moviemakers and what they want to do with the film.
>>70602539
I don't even know if I would classify that as a horror regardless of the label they or critics have put on it. Nothing about it was particularly scary or disturbing, and considering witches basicallybecame the only redeemable charactersall the tension that was built up was deflated like a balloon.It's still really good tho
who else has seen this masterpiece?
>>70599272
Stop being a hipster bitch. Blair Witch was damn good and it didn't rely on jump scares. the build up of tension and dread was great.
Some found footage films are decent but if it turns into Paranormal Activity for the Nth time then it gets stale.
>>70602537
The Curse (2013)
Japanese movie. Slow tension and buildup.
Fuck your overrated shit.
>>70603645
cant find a film called the curse from 2013
>>70602537
>dat music
>>70603766
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxfQEZXRPNQ
>>70599604
I ain't fucking with this shit right here
>>70603427
>Blair Witch was damn good
I remember when that piece of shit was laughed out of the cinema.
Fuck millennials.
>>70603817
>>70603766
The music they played whenever it attacked was golden. The score was a an assault on the audience, it's perfect.
>>70603855
laughed out by plebs you mean. and it was made in 99
>>70603855
Blair Witch was worshiped when it came out, what reality do you live in?
>>70603842
How the fuck is that scary you cuck faggot?
>>70599604
Wow i shit my pants the bad face is right outside the window wow way too spooky for me
>>70603962
its an unnatural, scary face. imagine that looking at you through the window
>>70603959
The alternate timeline with the BernstEin Bears.
Fuck off you satanic nigger.
>>70603992
simmer down
>>70602537
BABADOOK WAS BETTER AND NO ONE CAN CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE
>>70604032
Babadook was pretty cool. The real horror was that fucking kid though.
>>70602566
Bone Tomahawk wasn't even a horror, though the parts with the savages were surprisingly scary
>>70599691
Could make it where after that, when he speaks on that landline, he hears voices whispering what the person on the other end is really thinking. He doesn't know whether what he's hearing is real or if he's going crazy.
Sometimes he gets calls from voices that sound like they're shouting over a bad connection and they're begging for help with things, demanding that he pass on messages. He continues to ignore them, until they start speaking to him out of closets and other closed doors, at times hammering on them, threatening him.
>>70604069
it is a horror
What are some movies that do atmosphere and uncanny valley well? I seriously can't think of anything other than Alien for the former.
>>70604109
Isn't this Silent Hill 4?
>>70603991
Nigga it's in manga. How much of a pussy are you?
>>70604123
It's a thriller, shitlord
>>70604145
Don't know. Don't think I've seen(or played any) after 2.
>>70599004
>How do we fix the Horror genre?
We build a time machine. Or just watch older shit. Horror used to be an art form in cinema, now it's a theme park ride.
>>70599800
>hates idea
>doesn't offer any help or a better idea
Reddit is not here
>>70604170
oh you mean its fictional and not real? thank you so much i didnt know that
its just a scary face you dumb faggot
>>70604297
shut up fag
>>70604335
Enjoy watching the same three character archetypes do dumb shit forever.
>>70604137
The Mohman Prophecies is atmospheric as fuck.
>>70604178
no it isnt
>>70604430
Yes it is you faggot
>>70604424
>Mothman
>>70604459
its not
>>70604481
Yes it is you fucking cunt
>>70604394
but you just described old horrors. if anything, horror films have become more inventive, not less.
>>70604424
>>70604460
I don't egt why people praise that movie so much. It was above average, for sure, but nothing that special.
>>70604496
>>70604481
>>70604459
>>70604430
>>70604178
>>70604123
>>70604069
>>70602566
This argument is going well
>>70604541
no its not
>>70604524
Yes it is the only horror aspects were in certian scenes
>How do we fix the Horror genre
Realize movies don't impose any sort of bravery on the viewer. You need to make a conscious effort to give yourself suspense. If you're sitting in a chair and you know the only choice you really have is to close your eyes or not there is no deep terror.
Sure this has worked in the past, but the CARA film rating system is too regulated now. Theres just some things you're not allowed to do unless you're fine with lawsuits brought about by heartattacks. I'm sure many of you notice this taming obscuration.
Is response, low standards in horror are fine if the entertainment reaches a broad enough demographic. Its all about flipping a profit, Horror movies are dirt cheap to make. Most directors get into the industry because of this, theres no passion just monetization.
Movies dont give you enough choice and are too tame, its a limited medium. Indie video game horror might revitalize the genre.
>>70604565
but there werent really any thriller aspects other what fits into the horror aspects
>>70603246
It was alright. Don't like horror made into docu style.
I think the problem lies in the fact that we have changed what scary is. The unknown was scary, but the more you show what the unknown is, the less scary it becomes. So now we have to look towards obfuscating the unknown once more.
>>70604530
I just like the fact that it doesn't bother to explain shit. It's spooky because it's playing by rules that don't apply to what we accept as reality.
>>70601840
One of the best things it did, was that they didn't really explain what it was and where it came from and I loved that. I hate that most of these horror movies feel the need to explain the fucking origin, removing any mystery and wonder from the monster.
>>70604498
Excorcist, Don't Look Now, Alien, The Thing, Rosemary's Babie and even fucking Chucky have really well developed characters. Slow burn, no more info is given than needed and they seem like real people. The teen-archetype-team thing hadn't really set in.
Now, even Prometheus, the most self-proclaimed "artsy" horror movie of recent years, uses stock fucking archetypes, while mainstream horror is just a sequence of jump scares with sub bass playing throughout. It's hard to connect to a story if you can't connect to a character.
>>70602537
>atmosphere
Great!
>Effects
Did it have any?
>characters
Haha what?
>Music
Great
>Story
Great, until the 2nd half
>>70604652
>So now we have to look towards obfuscating the unknown once more.
The answer is always to go full Lovecraft.
>>70604717
>cherrypicking
Were created a generation of autistic bitch-men who dont know what horror is.
>"Heh I'm not scared its not even real"
>"Wooow it took a jumpscare to make my body react to this thing im not investing in"
>"Its not my job to immerse myself in the movie, if it had good enough pacing there wouldnt be a problem"
>"No I wont meet the movie half way thats stu-Wooow another jump scare to try to get me interested again nice try"
Unappreciative faggots, let it all burn.
Less cooks = Better horror films.
Horror isn't a genre that lends itself to cookie cutter by committee storytelling.
More auteur horror that has a voice and point of view(like what A24 put out) and Less JJ Abrams type of gimmicky manufactured stuff.
For starters, the fools at WB should get Carey Fukunaga back to write and direct the IT remake.
>>70599577
To expand on your ideas, people today need explanation even if its just temporary and ultimately untrue.
Imagine a movie where things (big or small) happen with no clear explanation, told from the perspective of one or two characters.
>>70600181
The true terror of the original TCM was the plausibility.
The two creepiest scenes were the hitchhiker scene, where the brother was picked up and started cutting himself and talking about head cheese
And then the later part where they were trying to get the old man to hammer the girl's head like she were a cow
It was her not fighting back much that really sold it for me. Because thats usually how itd work out, when scared people are strangely cooperative
On another note, they should adapt "Cry of Fear" into anmovie. That was a really well-done horror game with a few good jumpscares but an especially depressing and frightening horror plot.
>>70604741
All I mean is what they did with the monster itself. Really good use of nudity for horror in my opinion. Similar to the VVitch.
>>70600224
He is great at the set up and atmosphere... All over the place with his endings.
>>70605119
>It was her not fighting back much that really sold it for me. Because thats usually how itd work out, when scared people are strangely cooperative
Ahah, thats the most terrifying imagery in this thread
create scenes that are so creepy you don't need a jump scare to be afraid of them
>>70605427
I'm fine with a dash of jump scares in a film for some flavor, but they can't be the climax of the horror in the scene which it usually is.
>is there something behind this door
>i'm looking behind this door.
>well, I guess there isnt--
>ah! oh no there was!
absolute garbage
Ok the thing about Horror is that it's naturally unpleasant to sit through. It kind of needs another element to keep it interesting, such as exploring the unknown either in the mind (Hannibal) or in the world (Alien).
A good horror should keep you "turning the pages" but cringing every time you do so because you have no idea what will happen or when.
>>70600257
Nope can't think of anything scarier
Scavenge through folklore so you can get rid of
>high schools
>silly weapons
>rednecks
>70s cars
add
>good tits
>scream queens
>good tits
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BDla
>>70605535
For me that horror comes from that interesting element tho, and vice versa. The unknown or whatever your movie's niche happens to be is both interesting and horrifying as the concept itself.
>>70605609
>getting rid of 70s car
that is terrifying
I think putting some actual mythos and depth into the genre is a good idea, even if it ends up steering away from a genuine horror film. I think the Witch and only lovers left alive are good examples.
>>70600712
the endings aren't what makes junji stories scary. Its how it gets there
>>70599004
>How do we fix the Horror genre
Give all the money to Alan Resnick and Ben O’Brien.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gMjJNGg9Z8Unedited Footage > This House
>>70600362
>>70600404
I'd fuck him silly.
>>70605674
yeah but good tits in costume
>>70601840
The thing about It Follows is that the monster is scary but the movie around it is so lame. They don't ask enough realistic questions or act like real people actually would. I've gotten more spoops out of discussing the monster and what I would do than what happens in the film
>>70604581
How hard is the CERA on psychological horror? It seems like there is no limit to how messed up the gore in (certain) movies can get. Why would they crack down on psychological stuff?
>Theres just some things you're not allowed to do unless you're fine with lawsuits brought about by heartattacks.
Do you have any examples? Just curious.
>>70604717
See >>70604831
I don't even necessarily disagree with your point but Prometheus is not a modern horror classic, however "artsy" it "self-proclaims" to be.
I watched The Exorcist, The VVitch and The Boy in last 3 nights in that order. It was like having a 3 course meal only with shit for dessert.
>>70602537
What do people see in this piece of shit?
>>70605713
I'd love a proper horror take on Native American myths.
This was one of those movies I liked while I was watching it. But after it was over I thought "well that was stupid, every action the MC did was downright retarded"
>>70604530
They didn't even show the fucking Mothman. Fucking waste of time.
>>70606817
I hate you the most
>>70599546
>No horror comedy
So no Sam Raimi/early Peter Jackson movies? Some concepts can be creepy but also hard to take seriously so adding humor alleviates the struggle for suspension of disbelief. Horror should be approached in varied ways, otherwise you end up with the same five stories.
![MV5BMzk0ODc1NDMxOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTAzMzgwOA@@._V1_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oXw3x6w.jpg "MV5BMzk0ODc1NDMxOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTAzMzgwOA@@._V1_[1].jpg")
This was a modern horror movie that I thought did a very classical horror take and did it well. It wasn't the scariest movie ever but it was very good.
>>70606817
fuck off faggot
>>70606927
What? What the fuck am I looking at?
>>70606993
Don't ever fucking reply to me again shitlord
>>70607024
or my wife's son
pic related was really good
>>70607263
nostalgia porn is never good. I don't care if the flick made you feel all "comfy" and you considered growing a mullet and starting a VHS collection after watching it. a flick that has the sole purpose to recapture the feel of a diffrent era in genre filmmaking is a fucking gimmick and not a film.
I think the target audience for horror films should be children. When i was a kid that was literally the only time I found horror movies "scary". Adults just can't into horror anymore.
>>70607382
Its a really good movie on its own, good build up, decent payoff, great actors and avoided alot of the typical cliches
>>70599820
>people
>live in the Midwest
Pick one
>>70607382
House of the Devil hardly at all relies on "nostalgia". Just because it's a slow paced, devil focused, period piece doesn't mean it just relies on references and tongue in cheek references. It stands on its own. I've shown it to people who don't like horror or 70's or 80's flicks, but they still liked it and thought it was really well made. Were they too blinded by nostalgia?
>>70599434
k-kirby?
>>70602537
I saw pic related today, atmosphere and score are really great, the story somewhat simple but told in an interesting manner.
You guys have the gif with the woman checking on a sleeping dude making seriously fucked up faces? Where's it from? That always gets me.
>>70607382
youre a faggot m8
>>70605535
Lovecraft as fuck, not for the reader, none of his books are really SCARY, but for his characters.
>>70599004
Is that Bilbo Baggins?
>>70604894
>defending jump scares
>>70608296
not him but they serve a purpose nigger .. sometimes they are good
>>70600257
I've never heard of this show before, but it's completely charming. Didi it air in America?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMmt-CIwmJQ
>>70608018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z6xGU2_g9s
thoughts? I think it was basically fine, but it kind of fell apart near the end
Your favourite horror film has a jumpscare in it.
They all do.
It's the over-reliance on jumpscares, especially cheap ones, that have made modern horror films so terrible. I remember seeing a trailer for some shitty limited release horror film about another shitty haunting and there is a moment where a little boy is playing in a room and his mother is watching him through the doorway, which is half closed.
The boy is talking to his imaginary friend which the door obscures. The mother leaves. The shot holds on the boy. And then the ghost appears from behind the door. It's a moment that only exists to provide a jumpscare. It serves no purpose in the film, it's just a cheap ploy by the filmmakers to yell BOO! at you.
>>70608736
wrong. Lake Mungo has literally zero jumpscares in the entire film and rules.
That being said, yes, shitloads of films have them and they are not *always* horrible
>>70599004
The genre is doing just fine. There's always been shitty movies as well as good movies in any given genre. Problem is the "shitty" movies of the genre -slashers- used to be fun, but now that shaky cam found footage vomit has claimed the shitty throne, they're not even that.
Good horror movies have always been few and far in between. Today they're even rarer. Aside from the studios looking to make a quick buck with Paranormal Activity type shit, the audience is also to blame. If we keep watching them they're gonna keep making them.
We just need some fresh blood. Ti West is no genius by any means, but The House of the Devil was good.
>>70608916
You might have me there, because I've never seen Lake Mungo, but a "jumpscare" isn't just a shot in the film where a shitty ghost jumps at the screen in a sudden fashion. It can also be a loud sound cue.
Maybe not ALL horror films have them, but a majority of the films that considered "classics" or even "scary" typically have one.
When done right they're a way to punctuate the atmosphere and tension. It should work, if it's going to be used, as the punch-line to a set-up, only in horror terms.
>>70609051
Innkeepers is good too. The Sacrament was fine I guess. I want him to collaborate on something with cosmic horror, something lovecraftian, but a girl can dream
>>70609130
You should watch it, and yeah, even sound jumpscares aren't in it. The whole film is done as a documentary, but one you'd find on an actual channel, not some found footage BS. Plus, the acting is SO FUCKING GOOD that if the movie ended before it got real spooky I would've 100% believed it was a real documentary.
>>70608728
agreed
>>70608428
it's an anime series from finland
>>70609160
>The Sacrament was good
>using /tv/'s most incendiary buzzword -lovecraftian
>grill
This some weak b8 but yeah, Innkeepers was pretty decent.
>>70609210
I'll check it out.
>>70599004
less slashers and jump scares
>>70599004
Eliminate children from horror movies.
That would be a huge step forward.
>>70608665
fug
thanks
>>70609512
you mean actually killing kids in horror movies?
i would be down for this
>>70609476
Generalizations aren't helping anyone. Jump scares aren't inherently bad, they're just being overused. Plus there's plenty of good slashers out there. Or at least there used to be. Ever seen The Burning?
>>70609585
that would be cool too, but I meant just not writing parts for children.
mass children IRL murder would be a nice touch too.
>>70600001
You are the problem. Gore isn't horror.
>>70599004
My favorite horror films are the ones that don't explicitly show what we're supposed to be afraid of, just the reactions of the characters in seeing it. Anything we imagine will be worse than what the producers come out with
>>70609761
>just the reactions of the characters in seeing it.
yeah, but there are only so many faces actors can make at something until it fears tiresome.
>>70609678
Kids, animals and old people. The bane of all directors. But completely doing away with them is no solution either.
>>70599272
Found footage combined with mockumentary is great, though.
Poughkeepsie Tapes springs to mind as a film where the found footage genre was supplemented well.
>>70599494
This an Wyeth?
>>70609761
That's why the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre worked. Hell that's the reason even Blair Witch worked. Leaving things to the imagination is terribly effective.
>>70609779
It should be used effectively and sparsely, then. There's plenty that the director can do to convey fear without actually showing what they're supposed to be afraid of.
We need really frightening antagonists.
They don't have to be deep because Michael Myers was supposed to be a one-dimensional sociopath but he was used so well he actually worked, although antagonists with some depth won't hurt either.
The first half of this movie was so good, but then they started with the supernatural shit
>>70606389
That's what I meant. Something that a) knows where you are and b) follows you until it gets you is something so simple and so eery, it could be great.
Yet they fucked it up.
>>70609994
The only good thing about that movie were the footage scenes. That was actually creepy.
The faggot family was just annoying.
>>70609944
See, when I think of deep antagonists I'm reminded of how they treated Jason in the remake. In their effort to have every single thing make perfect sense they took away all of the "magic".
>>70610081
I feel the same way about Rob Zombie's Halloween.
Carpenter's Myers felt alien and inhuman.
Zombie fucked it up by giving him generic serial killer childhood with abusive parents and bullies.
>>70599004
no more jump scare.
>>70610194
I mean why even remake fucking Halloween in the first place right? I'm glad Zombie's gone. His edgy/quirky/satanic/turbogore gimmick got real old real fast.
Horror is in a better state than in the last 20 years. Why are you guys always complaining?
>>70610606
>Cookie cutter shaky cam shit
>Social media "horror" movies
>meta-meta-meta "horror"
>remakes
>reboots
Young man, do you know why I pulled you over?
>>70610742
Yo forgot about new and unique "indie" horror movies, which are better than most horrors from the 00s and late 90s.
>>70609850
Yes. It's called "Christina's World."
>>70610742
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls000006713/
horror is dead/dying because people aren't afraid of shit anymore.
>>70610742
The first Scream was the only movie to do meta right and it wasn't a horror movie, it was a slasher. Then they went overboard in the sequels and it all fell apart.
Also we're going to get nothing but remakes and reboots from here on out because Hollywood is creatively bankrupt.
