Just watched Red Dawn 1984.
What a great fucking movie.
I dont care if i get banned for this. but this movie was magnificent.
Jeez im not even american and still felt a sentiment of patriotism
>I dont care if i get banned for this.
What did he mean by this?
>>70591044
For once I think somebody is legitimately asking this, and I cant answer
>>70591149
What did this /tv/ poster mean by this
>>70591149
kek
>>70590954
You do know this was basically pro-mujahideen propaganda right? In other words, they took the precursor to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda as inspiration.
>>70590954
You're welcome anon
Never forget the brave sacrifices of these young souls during the red invasion.
>>70591044
>>70591149
>>70591184
I meant its wasnt a viable thread subject according to the rules so i might get band for so called shit-posting
>>70590954
Legitimately great movie, that scene at the end with the stone becoming a monument gave me the feels
>>70591234
I saw so many similarities, and i asked myself if Americans when watching this compare it to insurgent groups such as Hezbollah in Lebanon. or the PLO 'palistinian liberation front"
Do Americans understand they will also consider bombings and assassinations and even suicide bombings when it comes to defending their home land... or do they just laugh at towel heads thinking they are dumbfucks who don't give to shits about their home land
>>70592092
same i felt like i was about to shed a tear... but they died in vain.
>>70591234
BASED FUCKING JOHN MOTHERFUCKING MILIUS
the film got booed btw, and was a commercial failure if i'm not mistaken
>>70592429
why ?
wtf??
>>70592429
Milius is too conservative for even most conservatives. Red Dawn is him saying "anyone who isn't a beef-eating, cigar-smoking gun-toting survivalist deserved to be murdered by commies"
>>70592537
" Red Dawn received mixed reviews, receiving a score of 53% on Rotten Tomatoes.[5] Red Dawn was the 20th highest grossing film of 1984, opening on August 10, 1984 in 1,822 theatres and taking in $8,230,381 on its first weekend. Its box office gross is $38,376,497.[1] "
i was saying shit, it wasnt a commercial failure. made me wanna watch it again, probably tonight.
>>70592584
i think he was more about not being a 'slackjawedfagot', he was into the great men of our civilisation and the ubermencsh nomenclatura, but yeah he had not chance in hollywood, most people dont give a shit. conan is the perfect representation of milius true ideal, of living like a man and being true to yourself, fighting evil and so
>>70590954
is there a soviet equivalent of Red Dawn about evil merican capitalists?
>>70592584
how the fuck is that conservative.
people who defended their land in the name of liberty or death.
and a traitor must die to teach others a lesson.
>>70590954
Those goddamn mexicans just found another way to invade us
>>70590954
>im not even american and still felt a sentiment of patriotism
why?
>>70592748
The desire for freedom is universal.
>>70592117
>>70592165
>ending clearly shows that the Americans ended up succeeding in repelling the invasion
>died in vain
>>70592747
>>70592808
now that is the type of to far right conservative bullshit...
>>70592808
mfw you have no idea what cuck means go back to /pol/ you basement tattooed peice of white trash.
>>70592788
socialist freedom if you ask me
>>70592730
He probably meant right-wing as opposed to conservative. They're not the same thing.
>>70592859
Fuck you spic. I'd happily drag you through the streets
>>70592859
>cuck trying to explain what being a cuck is
>>70592843
right wingers can die if you ask me... their fucking as bad as left wingers...
take It as a lesson anything taken to an extreme is fucking shit. and i MEAN ANYTHING.
>>70592919
mEANT FOR YOU >>
>>70592877
>>70592717
Not really, it was very rare to depict americans as enemies, the only one that come to my mind is http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089721/
>>70592117
Mostly just laugh at towel heads, not for strapping bombs to their children and telling them to get candy from Americans but for doing that stupid squat shooting position. They can't hit shit.
>>70592919
>right wing
>extreme
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>70592917
Ya you can fuck your sister so you can keep the same inbred blood line you red neck white trash...
but honestly that is one weired monitor in that pic
>>70592919
really what bothers me the most is the militant dismissiveness of people on both sides.
Maybe I'm just getting too old for this place, but it seems like most trump supporters are just the same shitposters who think repeating KEK KEK LMAO over and over is new and exciting. I'm sick of it.
>>70592946
>it was very rare to depict americans as enemies
yeah sure thing pinko
>>70592992
>white trash
>>70592911
are you pro trump ?
>>70592970
true though they dont give a shit about many things bcs they are shit fucks ... but i think its suppressive fire...
also would like to add remember who supported the rebels in Syria and who is currently supporting ISIS
THE GREAT FUCKING USA AY MEN TO FREEDOM RIGHT
LIKE FUCK THE ASSAD REGIME RIGHT HE WAS SO OPPRESSIVE WITH HIS SYSTEM...
thank GOD AMERICA INTERVENED
>>70593060
I'm pro beaner bashing
>>70593049
i love how if you dont support one thing a right conservative cuck thinks t immediately means you want a commie america fild with mexiacans...
honestly i hope you not one of those guys
>>70592911
lol not a spic
but are you a trump supporter by any chance ?
>>70593060
what should we have done instead? Yeah arming the "moderate rebels" was a fantasy and an unbelievable failure, but what other options are there other than that and doing nothing? Directly support Assad, no thanks that guy is as brutal of an autocrat as they come he's no different than Saddam was. And look at how the Russians won the war for him and then when they pulled out and said ok now negotiate peace they refused to and made Putin look like a complete sucker. All the alternatives to helping Assad are horrible, and helping Assad is horrible.
As far as I'm concerned the middle east can go fuck itself, its not a problem we can solve and we shouldn't try to.
>>70593129
what is beaner bashing ... and are you Pro Trump or No ?
>>70593150
>not a spic
>>70593181
you've got some pretty epic memes there my friend, really raising the level of political discourse in this thread
great 80s movie with genuine feels
DONT WATCH THE NEW ONE
it was trash
>>70593204
>/tv/ thread about Red Dawn
>political discourse
as someone who fantasizes about armed insurrection I found it to be terrible.
>>70593260
Awesome more memes, nice man!
I sure do love memes! And it's got the green frog and the white guy, two of my favorite memes!
>>70593260
politics and art is intrinsically linked, unless you're a fan of capeshit and "turning your brain off"
>>70593177
Doesn't matter, I can't vote. I'm here illegally. I just really hate mexicans
>>70593295
>>70593302
You know that faggot is a fan
>>70593170
>no thanks that guy is as brutal of an autocrat as they come he's no different than Saddam was.
>brutal of an autocrat
>autocrat
Please tell me how you know so much about syrian history and how FOX News depicted this so called "autocrat".
> Russians won the war for him and then when they pulled out and said ok now negotiate peace they refused to and made Putin look like a complete sucker.
DISCUSS PEACE...
what do you think this is lala land you fucking bitch.
Did you even read the fucking agreement... i swear you americans are one brain washed bunch... the peace was to divide the land half for the mussies or so called rebels and other half for the syrian nationalist...
Jesus christ put a fucking sock in it....
>As far as I'm concerned the middle east can go fuck itself, its not a problem we can solve and we shouldn't try to.
And that here is my favourite fucking american quote...
i can stick my 7 inch nose in everybody elses business but GOD FORBID NOTHING follows my cookie trail....
i NO dont ask me to intervene after supporting the rebels that destroyed a fucking nation...
oh god dont ask me were to put all the niggers i brought on slave ships
their are consequences that come when you support the elite lobbiests you fucking dumb ass.
>>70592117
I doubt Americans would strap explosives to disabled people or little children. I seriously, honest to God do.
Bombings and shit, sure but I honestly can't see them doing that sorry.
>>70593181
not white trash either.. and not a trump supporter thats for sure...
>>70590954
Completely agree, anon. Fuck rotten tomatoes
>>70593389
I'd strap up if I had cancer or something. You know, head over to Palestine for shits and giggles
>>70593411
>>70593320
can you answer my fucking questions:
what is a beaner basher?
&
Are you a Trump supporter?
>>70590954
charlie sheen the mujahideen
>>70593375
you may not realize this, but many Americans were against the Iraq war from the start and do not wish further entanglement
your english needs a lot of work btw, I can barely understand what you're trying to say
>>70593440
A Mexican and no. Shillary all the way. You don't have to be stupid to hate illegals.
>>70593375
Is this some kind of elaborate form of bait or post-modern shitposting?
Also, look uo barrel bombs. They fill explosive barrels with shrapnel and drop em on neighborhoods from helicopters. They've killed a fucking ton of people and independent human rights groups have verified their deployment against civilians - which is a war crime. Assad isn't based you scum fuck retard
>>70593512
and thats how this dumb fuck replies.
not answering how Assad was an autocrat...
not answering anything about the so called peace treaty. finally his way to answer the final question is that not all americunts were pro iraq war.
fuck you & nobody cares if 20% of the country werent pro war... because i know for a fact that you set the middle east 60 years back.
but wait i know what you going to reply
>kek 60 years back... those towel heads didnt know shit and are stupid...
to which i reply pick up a history book and read you illiterate faggot.
>>70593559
>Shillary all the way
KILL YOURSELF YOU FUCKING LOSER.
i trust a liar.
she didnt leave the men in benghazi to die...
lets forget about all the lies because we need a female president
>>70592698
>Red Dawn received mixed reviews, receiving a score of 53% on Rotten Tomatoes
It got mixed reception from critics, but was a huge hit with general audiences, becoming an iconic 80s movies like Top Gun or Ferris Bueller, that people remember when thinking back to the decade.
I just think the opening is really well done, and relatable. Kids are sitting in class like any normal day when suddenly armed men start falling out of the sky with parachutes right outside the window. It's very surreal, and who hasn't daydreamed about surviving out in the woods with your closest friends. The second half is really dark. Showing kids make all these tough moral decisions and kill each other for survival is something not that many movies would show, without the deaths feeling cheapened like in Hunger Games.
>>70593637
Man, why are you so angry? If your country is really that shit just go to germany like everyone else.
also Assad is an autocrat because he wields unlimited authority and was not put in power through free and fair elections, additionally he was hand picked as a successor by his father who was also an autocrat. When faced with a movement demanding his resignation he responded with bullets, that is not what a democratically elected president does.
>>70593561
Assad isn't based, but he is a much better option then letting Syria fall into the hands of ISIS/Daesh and the various Western backed rebel groups.
All you would get if he is removed is another location that will be permanently destabilized .
>>70593673
I doubt any 4channers support hillary because they feel we need a female president.
>>70593432
getting closer but i didnt vote for trudeau ...
>They fill explosive barrels with shrapnel and drop em on neighborhoods from helicopters.
TOP KEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
show me proof..
i lived in Lebanon for 4 years anon ive been gone know for a while but i have gone to syria and i have spoken to refugees and ITS ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT.
I have even spoken to sunnis who hated assad and they regret every fucking moment they protested becasue they know that the american lie of "freedom and liberty" was a lie all along...
They had it all. one of the most stable nations in the middle east but hey if they are a threat to ISRAEL then obviously get the americans to spend money and israel watch your tax money fly...
>>70593719
And you think a "democratically elected president" is even possible in Syria?
How is this democratic government going to hold back ISIS? Also this "democratic government" was caused by Western interference just like in Ukraine. The new government would be doing the same war crimes Assad is right now to hold the state.
>>70593727
that's entirely true but it doesn't make the thought of supporting a guy like assad any more comfortable which is why I feel none of the sides are worth our support
>>70593763
>TOP KEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
stopped reading right there
>>70593763
Assad does regularly drop barrel bombs on his own people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApZdvz_n4ro
>>70593790
well the west is directly helping both ISIS and rebel groups such as the FSA with gear. I'm not saying they give directly to ISIS but these "moderate rebels" who we do give gear to tend to either join ISIS or get beaten by ISIS and the gear is taken.
>>70593765
>And you think a "democratically elected president" is even possible in Syria?
I never said that, but I said Assad is an autocrat which is one reason why he does not deserve our support.
You said 10 minutes ago that he's not an autocrat, now you're admitting he is but saying that's ok? Way to move the goalposts buddy.
>>70593837
different poster anon, Assad is an evil dictator, but the people who would step into his shoes are just as bad if not worse.
They would use chemical weapons in a second where Assad has not used them or if he did he got away with it
>pic related
>>70593824
did you miss the part where I said none of the sides are worth our support
bombing ISIS positions is all well and good but the efforts to recruit and train "moderate rebels" have been an unbelievable waste of time and money. I just can't believe heads haven't rolled for that. But hey who cares right, it makes the arms industry happy.
>>70593637
How is he not an autocrat? The Syrian Ba'ath party holds elections every 7 years and guess whose name only appears on the ballot? In fact this past election in 2014, for the first time in Syrian history, there was a contested presidential election with two other people appearing on the ballot. They were both Ba'ath approved candidates and Assad "won" with 88 percent of the vote. So right off the bat, his regime has no respect for the democratic process.
Lets see what else... Linked to various human rights abuses not the least of which being war crimes. This all began during the Arab Spring when PEACEFUL protestors called for his resignation, just the same as in the other Arab dictatorships. His crackdown was extremely violent including abductions, torture and imprisonment of dissenters which transformed the civil disobedience into a widespread revolt against what many saw as an illegitimate regime. America no doubt help with its destabilizing of Iraq which allowed jihadist groups to operate and infiltrate but fuck off with this "Assad is just tough leader in tough times". He's a brutal dictator who has no qualms about killing innocent people.
Go ahead, write me off as a Fox News redneck or whatever mental gymnastic you do to protect that fragile ego
>>70593888
nah, the middle east can go fuck itself
I don't care if the alternatives are worse, I don't want to support a dictator who murders his own people when they demand greater freedoms. That's not what America should be.
>>70593719
>additionally he was hand picked as a successor by his father who was also an autocrat.
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU and FUCK YOU
he wasnt even suppose to be the president of syria you dumb fuck it was his brother however his brother was killed in a car crash a fews days before Hafez al Assad died.
Man, why are you so angry?
Yes Im fucking angry.
and no im not a syrian, but im a man who understands politics and atleast knows what is going on in the world before i fucking post shit online.
Im mad because you fucking support the destruction of a stable state in fucking lie of freedom and liberty and then dont expect any consquences and over all that you ameicans take in propaganda off of Fox News and CNN
and the best part is that its all happening in the interest of Israel a country that once tried to back stab USA after being treated like a brother.
YOu guys are so fucking confused and think you know it all there is no path back to safety...
what a lost fucking load of fuck nuts
>>70592117
Well, Lebanon/"Muh Palestine" and the Americans DO have one thing in common
>Democracy by force
>>70593947
No America is paying a bunch of Islamic rebels to overthrow governments.
That is exactly what America is about though, whatever ideal you think of what America "should be" doesn't exist. They are an expansionist country with many national interests that involve getting just as dirty as Assad
So you can say "fuck the dictator, off with his head" but you'll just be getting another Iraq or Libya, a state that is permanently destabilized by terrorist organisations
This movie is clear-cut Jew propaganda
The director as a Jew
At the time the movie was made, Israel was an enemy of the USSR
This movie is literally "yes goyim, die for Israel. Cuba is your enemy because they don't have relations with us!"
>>70593950
>FUCK YOU
>FUCK YOU and FUCK YOU
and stopped reading right there
>>70593765
"democratically elected president"
he was fucking elected you dumb fucks several times after the war had even started... but obviously you wont see that bullshit on FOX OR CNN...
>>70593972
I see nothing in that post saying he supports hillary because she's a woman
>>70593790
>stopped reading right there
you stopped because you knew thats where you would lose this argument ... but hey thats cool you can go back to watching porn and buying the newest concole while you ignore the real world right ...
THE AMERICAN DREAM
>>70594012
are you implying that the cold war was some kind of jewish plot?
really?
>>70593824
here we go again... ask for evidence you get this fucking video posted on some rebel media channel...
this is rebel land he is bombing that IS FUCKING SUNNI ISIS NUSRA FRONT FUCKING TOWEL HEAD SUICIDE BOMBERS YOU FUCKTARD.
NO PRESIDENT WANTS TO SEE HIS PEOPLE DIE ONLY HIS ENEMIES
>>70594058
if you want an intelligent political discussion you shouldn't directly insult the person you're talking to
it just makes you look like a fool who is not worth talking to
>>70593824
please stop saying the FSA... this fucking shit never existed it was all along a mask to hide the islamic terrorist groups.. but i guess fox and cnn did a pretty good job at brain washing you.
>>70594135
>FUCKING TOWEL HEAD SUICIDE BOMBERS YOU FUCKTARD.
why do you talk like this?
are you 11?
>>70593888
>Assad is an evil dictator
evidence bitch
>>70593389
Nah us americans arent in this situation. Even if this redneck dream from am invasion comes true they wouldnt do it. US americans would try to fullfill the stronk american people clichee and die in an unorganized attempt to fight of an invader.
BUT when people live long enough in a bad environment you can be sure they would try anything.
>>70594023
You don't understand how Ba'ath "democracy" works do you? A single name appears on the ballot, approved by the Ba'ath party - the same guys who ruled Iraq with Saddam. They also came to power through a coup decades ago so to pretend this is democratic in anyway at all is fucking willfully ignorant at best my man. In fact the 2014 presendtial elections were the first to have more than one presidential candidates... all candidates were selected by the Ba'ath Party however
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_presidential_election,_2014
>>70594174
If you approach rhetoric and dialogue without acting like a little child and swearing like a kid maybe people would be more willing to converse, also it's obvious who you are because you put "..." in every post as well as expletives.
Also you have to ease into arguments because there is a lot of propaganda thrown around on both sides, I'm just going off information that is spoon fed to me by our media sources.
>>70594197
he used chemical weapons, not even Hitler went that lowI don't think he actually did, I just want to trigger this child who swears like a pirate in every post
>>70594197
the concept of a benevolent dictator is inherently flawed, all dictators are by definition evil
if there was ever anything close to an absolute moral imperative it would be to have leaders selected by those who follow them
>>70594206
You sound like a massive nihilistic cuck based on the speculation from your post
>>70594273
>not even hitler went that low
can we not make these comparisons please
>>70594322
why are cuckold fetishists so fucking obsessed with inserting their dumb fetish into absolutely everything? What does anything he said have to do with cuckoldry?
You guys are the new furries, I swear.
>>70594325
Some idiot cunt set the rules for dialogue in this thread, it seems to be swearing like children so I will revert straight to Godwins law thank you very much
seeya later
>>70593915
>guess whose name only appears on the ballot
National Progressive Front:
Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party
Arab Socialist Movement
Arab Socialist Union Party of Syria
Syrian Communist Party (Khalid Bakdash faction)
Syrian Communist Party (Yusuf Faisal faction)
Social Democratic Unionists
Socialist Unionists
Democratic Socialist Unionist Party
Arabic Democratic Unionist Party
National Vow Movement
Popular Front for Change and Liberation
Syrian Social Nationalist Party
People's Will Party
Other registered parties (as of 19 June 2012):[2]
Solidarity Party
Arab Democratic Solidarity Party
Syrian Democratic Party
National Development Party
Al-Ansar Party
Democratic Vanguard Party (Al Talia'a Democratic Party)
National Youth for Justice and Development
Syrian National Youth Party
Syria Homeland Party (Souriya Al-Watan)
People's Party
THERE IS A LOT MORE..
IVE BEEN TO SYRIA YOU DUMB FUCK... so stop arguing and get your ass out of the american propaganda.
>Linked to various human rights abuses not the least of which being war crimes.
what links proof or it didnt happen
they tried to blame him for chemical warfare and it was caught to be a lie and the footage was faked...
Though the smartest tactic he did was he cleared a whole city by dropping flour over it.... those fucking mudslime syrian traitors were so dumb they fled like pussies.
>This all began during the Arab Spring when PEACEFUL protestors
Do you still think that arab spring was good for the middle east... Please stop because you are fucking stupid it was a low key tactic to destablize all the fucking countries tell me one country that has peace after the arab spring.... for christs sake open your eyes and see it was all planned to DESTROY THE MIDDLE EAST.
>including abductions, torture and imprisonment of dissenters
last i remember a whistle blower blower was chased out of the country and traitors to the state deserve to be executed.... those "peacefull rebels were supported by the enemy of syria
>>70594398
>the arab spring was a conspiracy started by the west to further destabilize the middle east
to what end?
>mfw this turned into a Russkie vs Amerilard /pol/ thread
the good old days, more Ukraine threads when??
>>70593956
obviously not bullshit because america wouldnt be there
>>70594286
Nah, dictator didn't initially have a negative connotation to it. In the Roman empire, it was originally an office that both consuls could nominate someone to fulfill that would posses extralegal abilities including no liability for your actions when in office. Usually it done hastily when an invading army was approaching and required all facet of the bureaucracy focused on handling the threat and it was usually given to generals.
So yeah, you don't really know what you're talking about t b h. Many heroes of Rome are in fact dictators such as cincinnatus and Julius Caesar. There's nothing inherently wrong, least of all within the definition, with a dictator. It becomes a problem because there is no way to keep said power in check
>>70594012
your fucking retarded the commies were a direct threat to the USA
>>70591234
It's almost as if people are the same shitty species across the globe!
>>70594019
i love how you always stop reaading because you know your about to get rekt and raped in the next part of the text but like i told this other guy...
Now you can go watch porn and look up the new gen. console and ignore the real world for another 4 years before more games come out...
living the AMERICAN DREAM !!!
>>70590954
Anon you don't get banned for liking a John Milius movie.
The commies are hated and despised in /tv/.
>>70594045
NO JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE A RETARD ANON - TRUSTING A LIAR.
>>70594146
WHEN THE PERSON DESERVES IT AND speaks like a 15 yo kid who just heard daddy talking about FOX NEWS FLASH then yea yesy you can go kill yourslef for all i care because you an ignorant fucking loser.
>>70594177
to fit in 4chan thats why... in real life im not like that...
>>70594493
which is the problem with autocratic systems of governance, yeah maybe you get super lucky and actually get a good leader but what do you do when he dies? One party systems tend to select their leaders based on who is the shrewdest operator of party politics, rather than who is actually the best leader, which is how you end up with sociopathic monsters like Stalin in charge of countries.
Yeah I was a little over the top in saying that dictators are by definition evil, but autocracy simply cannot work in the long term.
>>70590954
John Milius is fucking awesome
>>70594607
you need to lurk the fuck more
>>70594197
>gasses his own people
>against human rights and democracy
More?
>>70594493
such a 1984 picture right there
>>70594212
its part of the constitution. Its the main nationalist party... its how Natinolist socialism works you dumb fuck...
they didnt fuck with anybody so why fuck with them....
also assad was trying to push for more democracy but noticed that america had tried to intervene and blame him for raffiq al harriris death... so he stopped his "damascus spring" [look it up dumb fuck]
listen your at a loss... your talking with a Canadian lebanese who lived in Lebanon for 4 years,,, traveled to syria and spoke with more syrians than you can ever think off PRO AND ANTI Assad.
>>70594680
1984 was actually written as a direct critique of Stalin
George Orwell was a hardcore communist but in the years directly after ww2 as more and more came out about the realities of life in Russia he became increasingly worried about communism's future.
>>70594691
>a fucking leaf
>a fucking allawite on top of it
it all makes sense now, I bet you voted for the weed candidate too
>>70594273
so instead of fighting the argument you describe my posts and speculate my age by looking for the number of "..." those.
You know your at a total loss so just stop.
and no he didnt use chemical weapons it was just like the WMD's with Saddam.
OOPS we fucked up a whole nation looking for WMD's and now after destablizing everything and letting the taliban loose well guess what we dont care...
american arguments at there finest.
>>70594325
they are the same and you should kys.
>>70594433
what do you mean to what end ?
>>70594776
>hahah memes
not an original thought in your post anon
>>70594744
Sure but the book hitting upon mass surveillance and the effects of it is even relevant in "American democracy" today
although I like Orwells novels and essays much more
>>70594691
LOL
That fucking backpedal
>"B-But okay, so maybe it wasn't r-really democracy.... but they weren't hurting nobody!! In fact, Assad wanted MORE democracy! It was uh... America!"
Also, that means nothing since first of all its purely anecdotal information and secondly you make the assumptiom that by virtue of being a citizen they understand how their government works.
Spoiler Alert: They don't. Most citizens of their respective countries don't understand the first thing about politics or how the government works in their respective country. Your conversations mean absolutely nothing in ant context other than to illustrate and bolste your own feelings.
>>70594817
how does doing any of that benefit the west, what's the point?
>>70594642
been lurking since 2008
fuck off
its this new gen of /pol/ 12 yearolds who take this white nationalist bullshit for real not knowing when the joke stops...
>>70594839what is Israel
personally I dunno what the link is but it seems obvious that our military interests directly coincide with Israel's interests as well.
So yea I dunno "to what end"
>>70593703
couldnt agree more
alost " who hasn't daydreamed about surviving out in the woods with your closest friends"
i remeber frist time i saw battle royal it perfectly captured that feel
>>70594647
your argument was as dumb as this:
>Gives candy to all his people
>He is the best president in the world
THE EVIDENCE BITCH IS WHAT I ASKED FOR NOT FOR YOUR DUMB GREEN TEXT...
and please dont tell me that FOX is tryingto start a HOLOHOAX in SYRIA ... please dont
>>70594858
and yet you still post like a cancerous newfag fresh off the boat from reddit
lurk the fuck more
>>70592992
At least he would be fucking something, unlike you kek
>>70594858
>Lebanese guy calling people towel heads
>FUCKING WHITE PEOPLE
Fuck off, cuck. He said he was from the middle east. He's apparently using it ironically to illustrate American ignorance.... somehow
>>70594776
>states hes lebanese
>faggot calls him an alloite...
kill yourself you cunt and no i dont worship some fucker called Ali.
>>70594915
are you trying to character assassinate this guy by calling him a "newfag" on one of the most casual shit boards on 4chan?
fuck off, this board is filled with ledditors
>>70594858
Yeah sure since 2008.
This retarded post word for word has started appearing only after the Tumblr raids. literally a tumblr meme.
we attracted you retards in this site and you try to rationalize why you are universally despised
lurk more
>>70592117
There really are no similarities.
If this were about mexico and the usa fighting over texas maybe but russia invading the us? No thats entirely different than the situation in the middle east with two factions fighting over land they both got a legit claim to.
>>70594879
this is it? It doesn't seem like you've thought this out very well. Have you ever heard of something called Occam's Razor? It's far more likely that the arab spring was a collective yearning of arabs in repressive states for greater political freedom. There are numerous historical examples of similar things happening.
A prime example here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848
numerous uprisings across Europe against autocratic regimes that were almost entirely put down violently with next to nothing accomplished
>>70594826
talks about speculations and then makes one about a country he has never set foot in thinking we are all americunts and we dont have classes to understand how our own gov. works....
its a democracy just like your american democracy... only two parties throwing the illusion that they are different in any way... but still lead by the lobbiest...
so instead of the lobbiest its a dictator...
but Assad actually cared and was working for a true democracy and attempted to change his fathers constitution... and there was always a democractic elections.
>>70594947
are you implying there are no allawites in lebanon?
>>70595029
right.. and with western weapons and gear being flooded to these terrorists using "the simplest explanation is often the right one" we can see that it's not a political revolution of arabs but a foreign funded insurgency.
>>70593170
Assad may not be a saint, but he's certainly not as bad as you make him up to be, plus he's the much, MUCH smaller evil in the scenario. Btw, the Russians never pulled out completely and are even coming back stronger.
>>70594929
Lebanese women some of the most beautiful women in the world...
and you are so fucking degenerate that you think fucking your sister is better than fucking nothing... just think about how low youve gotten you inbred shill/.
>>70595077
>what is cause and effect.
The original uprising was entirely arab. Its fucking retarded to think a foreign power could turn millions of people against their government.
>>70595059
rarely and most consider themselves as shiites
>>70595162
what is Ukraine
am I going to have to post our friend Victoria Nulands leaked "fuck the EU" call or can we just agree it is possible for a foreign power to turn people into becoming revolutionaries
>>70594985
im saying assuming that your country was being invaded you would still do the same
>>70595162
foreign power could turn millions of people against their government.
THE POWER OF PROPAGANDA
go watch a documentary or something you piece of shit and watch the biggest pushing force behind the Egyptian revolution ...
>>70595196
Ukraine isnt an uprising its an invasion.
>>70595077
I mean, what do you do in Europe/America's place? You just let ISIS steamroll Assad and then let them keep sending terrorists overseas to attack peaceful places like Belgium and France? (France I guess participated in the No Fly Zone over Libya for a while but why fucking Belgium or Japan?)
Do you fund Assad, a dude condemned by human rights groups everywhere for torturing and killing innocent people?
I'm serious, what are they supposed to do? They can't just let the meat grinder keep happening. They continue to outfit the Iraqi government forces and "moderate", western sympathetic rebel groups who promise not to commit war crimes.
Theres nothing short of a full-scale multinational invasion that the US/EU can do short of recognizing ISIS as a state and let it run train on everyone in the middle east like it intends to do
>>70595230
What propaganda? What TV stations did the western powers hijack? What newspapers were foreign owned and pushing against the arab leaders?
>>70595077
you just went from talking about the arab spring as a whole to the syrian civil war, the syrian civil war was an event caused by the arab spring when the syrian government shot its protestors until they eventually started shooting back.
>>70595113
agreed but I still don't want to support him, its a similar situation to the israeli palestinian conflict imo in that I feel that as things stand neither side is worthy of our support
>>70595281
They already have clear aims and goals that aren't made clear to the public, for all we know they want these places to be permanently destabilized for political or other reasons
>>70595292
just how the maiden protests turned into a full out civil war, but they started with protesters being turned into violent revolutionaries
>>70595283
OH BUDDY ITS 2016 THE FUCKING INTERNET AND TOR HAVE YOU HEARD OF THESE.
GO WATCH A FUCKING DOCUMENTARY Or READ A FUCKING BOOK FOR CHRISTS SAKE...
I SWEAR YOU DUMBED FUCKED NEW GENERATION BELIEVE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT THE TV SAYS.
>>70593561
>barrel bombs
>They fill explosive barrels with shrapnel and drop em
Sounds like a pretty standard bomb to me.
>>70595262
>that filename
so this....is the power of /pol.
>>70593042
But it's true. In the Soviet movies you often could see say, American spies trying to steal some secret shit, but there was nothing like Red Dawn with heroes fighting and killing American soldiers. This
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089721/ is the closest thing to the Red Dawn, but even in this movies the bad guys are some rogue CIA and military guys who want to start WWIII, and not the US government.
>>70595340
>for all we know they want these places to be permanently destabilized for political or other reasons
such as?
>>70595369
Im canadian arab and fuck pol is a bunch of those dumb asses pic related
>>70595403
>They already have clear aims and goals that aren't made clear to the public
again occams razor, not sure why they're doing this shit but there has to be a reason for it whether it's just to make cash, use it as a news story to cover other news or it helps out allies in the reason.
what difference does it make?
>>70595340
the maiden protests did not turn into a civil war, the syrian civil war and ukrainian conflict are not comparable
>>70595359
Same, I didn't name it however
>>70595435
how do you expect me to believe you when you say ITS A CONSPIRACY when you can't even explain why they're doing it?
>>70595423
You hate white people?
>>70595447
How exactly did they not turn into civil war?
I was under the opinion that the area of Donetsk is held by separatist groups
>>70595476
I'm not expecting you to believe anything I say, I can only go off the very limited knowledge I have been exposes to.
It could ALL be propaganda for all I know, I'm just sharing my thoughts on the very little information I have been spoon fed
>>70595479
i hate degenerate white people... actually all types of degenerates.
any extremist falls into the group of degenerates
>>70595423
that blonde chick has a nice rack
>>70595423
>>70595690
Yeah the blonde is awesome.
>>70594585
This
Unfortunately they nuke every Frozen thread, which is sad.
>>70592004
Wait what? What rule would this break?
>>70595923
read the thread nigga, this entire thread should be on /pol/
>>70591044
Jannies ban you for liking things cuz it breaks the /tv/ code.
