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Have you guys seen the James Bond Blu-Ray restorations? They look absolutely incredible.

What are other really good restorations of old films?

How good is the criterion collection? I hear they're really good at restoring films.
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>>70574856
>the cover art
cant they just use the posters for the boxart? they seriously look generic
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>>70574887
yeah, the covers are pretty lame.

kek, just look at this one.
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They rereleased half the movies last year with fantastic art, then they just stopped for whatever reason.
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I watched all the bond movies recently.

Jesus christ Moore is shit. The one with the 40 minute boat chase almost made me quit.
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>>70574856

I really, really love my Vincent Price Collection on Blu-Ray. Those Roger Corman/Poe adaptations are beautiful!!
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>>70576679
This one was good
>>70575680
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>>70576679

Moore is a great Bond. I can see how people dislike him but I always liked his contrast from Connery.

I always enjoyed Connery and Moore. I don't care for any of the other Bonds. Bronson fit pretty well in with the 90's although I only enjoyed Goldeneye.
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>>70576839
this nigga gets it
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>>70576839

Pretty much this.

It's hard to really judge Lazenby and Dalton since they barely did anything, but Connery and Moore are the true Bonds.
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>>70574887
It triggers the fuck out of me when they do that shit.
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>>70574856
Lawrence of Arabia

Can you post some screen caps of Dr.No
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>>70576679
I agree, way too campy.
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>>70576860
yeah he gets it but damn Dalton was good too.
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>>70574856
>>70575680

What a lazy cunts, just put something in the bottom part, like the gun barrel or anything you lazy fucks.
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>>70576884
Dalton was way closer to the books.
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>>70576839
I enjoy Moore for what he was

Brosnan is the worst for me, just incredibly bland
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>>70576884
I really like OHMSS but it doesn't feel like a bond film.

I think there is a lot of similarities to OHMSS and Bourne. The bit at the ice rink could be a bourne scene easily, that's not Bond playing all cool and macho it's a man in a dangerous position weighing the odds and feeling suddenly aware.
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>>70576988
great poster, shame about the flick itself
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>>70577007
JAMES BOND GET
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>>70577007
You're a fucking retard if you think Diamonds is a flick
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>>70577007

I didn't hate that movie but it is a weaker one in the series. The two queer guys just make a strange movie even more bizarre.

My favorite Connery Bond movie is From Russia With Love. For Moore it's definitely For Your Eyes Only.

I like most of them though. I used to always watch the Bond marathons in November that they played on TV (I think they might still do them?).

Comfy as fuck.
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>>70576988
>>70577031
Why aren't they using these? I don't get it.
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>>70577075
>My favorite Connery Bond movie is From Russia With Love.

t. redditor
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>>70577103
>holly goodhead
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>>70577119

Had no idea that was a reddit tier selection.

Oh well. Go fuck yourself.
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>>70577119

How is that in any way Ribbit? From Russia is a solid movie.
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>>70577179
>>70577161
hes just scared of the boogyman
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>>70577161
It's not.
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>>70577161
>>70577179
It's the safe choice, it's what everyone says, the top of every list.

Best connery is Dr No.
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>>70577217

>It's the safe choice

I had no idea. Maybe it's the safe choice because it's a good fucking movie?
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>>70576884
Except, Dalton came in and became the best Bond.
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>>70577217
Goldfinger is safer.
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>>70577217
I thought Goldfinger was the safe choice.
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>>70577241
>Maybe it's the safe choice because it's a good fucking movie?

Upvoted fellow redditor
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>not buying steel book versions of bond films
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>>70577075
>The two queer guys just make a strange movie even more bizarre.
Then there's cross-dressing Blofeld.
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this poster is lewd.
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>>70577334

>craig
>bond
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>>70577594
>i posted it again
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>>70577594
>Cast as the fictional British secret agent James Bond in October 2005, his first film in the role, Casino Royale, was released internationally in November 2006.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Craig
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>>70577594
autism
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>>70577217
>It's the safe choice, it's what everyone says, the top of every list.

It's good because it's somewhat gritty and has more realism than the others. As far-fetched as Bond movies are, this one could have actually happened, and is at least partially based on reality (MI6 wants to get their hands on a Russian cryptographic machine; inspired by the real-life ENIGMA).
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How do you feel about Eggs Benedict Cabbagepatch being the next Bond?
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>>70577748
>Unironically thinking Craig is any good as bond
Suicide is an option
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Daniel Craig is to Bond what Goerge Clooney is to Batman.
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The Man With The Golden Gun was always my favorite classic bond, Casino Royal 2006 overall
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>watching Ion
>they're doing a Craig and Bronson marathon
>no fucking GoldenEye

For what purpose?
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>>70578267
nah
DAD is literally bonds batman and robin
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So there's always a bit of controversy in Bond threads, but can't we all at least agree that this is the best opening theme?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNA7DcVppEs
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>>70578455
yes
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>>70578267
>>It’s not just the public that has endorsed Daniel Craig as James Bond. Even Craig’s peers have thrown their weight behind the English thespian. Shortly after watching Skyfall, Roger Moore, who had long insisted that Sean Connery was his favorite Bond, admitted to Time that he’d changed his mind and revealed that Daniel Craig now had that honor. Sean Connery has called Craig "fantastic" as Bond, Pierce Brosnan labelled him as "magnificent"," while, after Skyfall, Timothy Dalton declared, "There’s a case to be made that Daniel Craig is the best Bond ever."
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Official, unironic, non-meme objective Bond tier list

>007 Tier

Goldfinger
From Russia With Love
Casino Royale
The Spy Who Loved Me
On Her Majesty's Secret Service

>High Tier

Goldeneye
Thunderball
Skyfall
Dr. No
The Living Daylights
For Your Eyes Only

>Mid tier

Live and Let Die
You Only Live Twice
Licence to Kill
SPECTRE
Tomorrow Never Dies

>Low Tier

The World is Not Enough
Octopussy
Diamonds are Forever
A View to a Kill
Moonraker

>SHIT tier

The Man with the Golden Gun
Quantum of Solace (fuck off contrarian memers you KNOW it's shit)
Die Another Day

Connery > Craig > Dalton > Moore with good material > Brosnan > Moore with bad material

It's really hard to judge Bond actors, because they can be incredible in one movie and shit in the next. Moore was hit by it the hardest, because he was great at being the suave, charismatic, and even cold-blooded, but the writers were insistent on playing him as a literal clown so he never got too many moments to shine. Who the fuck even knows how you fit Lazenby in there.
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>>70578629
>Official, unironic, non-meme objective Bond tier list

jeez you weren't kidding. Good list.

License to Kill is too low.
GoldenEye is too low.
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North by Northwest and Vertigo are beautiful.
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>>70578521
>The public are retarded, evidenced by the yearly success of capeshit, they know nothing about cinema and the first James Bond film 90% of them saw was Tomorrow Never Dies
>99% of them haven't seen all the bond films
>Senile old fart who played the second worst ever bond says the worst bond is good because he is losing his marbles
>Other bond actors jump on the band wagon because they don't want to bully the sensitive new kid or the centinial dementia patient
>None of them actually give half a fuck about the new films anymore
>Lazenby, the best bond actor and only one with integrity doesn't praise Craig
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>>70578795
>speculation vs actual quotes

ok buddy.
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>>70578629

>non-meme
>includes james bourne
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>>70577116
At least you can print them out and have custom cases you like
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>>70578629
>007 teir
>Casino Royal
>Low teir
>Diamonds are forever

Are you being retarded on purpose?
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>>70574856
You open a thread, just post some screencaps
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>>70578736
Goldeneye is one of the most stylistically unique films. I really dig the heavy steel-drum based score and the heavy post cold-war motifs, and it set the stage for examining Bond as a human being that they would run with in Daniel Craig's movies. and how can you not love that tank chase?

I'm also a sucker for history and I really dig the movie's plot being based around the legacy of World War II and the Cold War
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>>70577007
great song too
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>>70578795

Be fair. When a film franchice is 20+ entries tall, almost always following the same fundamental formula, the completist audience is motivated less by a love for the medium itself, and more by the collector's impulse. At this size and with these properties, Bond is not so ontologically difficult from capeshit. After all, Bond is a bit of a superhero himself.

The person who has made it his business to see every Bond film, and report same with pride, is not so much a lover of the cinema as he is an autistic completitionist, doing it because It's There. Nor is there anything terribly wrong with this, many of us have our little niche that we geek out on. But it's not "love of film" which motivates such activity, but pure, simple geek autism, directed towards one particular body of work.
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>>70578992
Casino Royale is a top tier bond flick and diamonds is one of the worst, you're literally a contrarian memer if you think otherwise

Connery had completely phoned it in and was only doing it for money at that point. No good action scenes, set the stage for slapstick campy Bond that would ruin the Moore era, forgettable villains and girls, etc

only good thing is that Charles Gray hams it up as Blofeld and he's at least fun to watch.
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>>70574856
>What are other really good restorations of old films?
The Jaws Blu-Ray is fucking amazing. Also the even season of Star Trek: TNG are great.
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>>70578629
>>SHIT tier
>The Man with the Golden Gun

I need to watch the films again, but is this really a shit tier bond film?
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>>70579437
Nah. It's not great, but it's definitely not shit because of Scaramanga.
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>>70579542
>Scaramanga
My man
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>>70579437

People have very different ideas about what makes a good Bond film.

Personally, I'll take iconic moments, great locations, cool gadgets/feats/chases, awesome villains, quips, one liners, and Bond being Bond over a coherent plot, decent pacing, and muh real human being Bond with feelings.
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>>70579542
Christopher Lee can't save the entire movie when he's hardly in it.
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>>70579437

I've only seen maybe 6-9 Bond films, several of which I don't remember too well.

That said, I did make a point of sitting all the way through that one maybe five years ago, and I do remember being honestly unimpressed. Some boring, slow pace, Christopher Lee isn't really doing much of anything, oh there's Tattoo, a hall of mirrors maybe, whoops done.

At least Moonraker (of which I am fond as my first exposure to the Jaws character as a kid) gives us fun sets and a little suspense right at the end. It seems like they're stuck on that one stupid island for half the movie in Golden Gun. Anyway it left a boring taste in my mouth, and I chose it to confirm my bias of Moore as inferior Bond. Even OHMSS has the marriage thing and a different take on the Blofeld character, whom we've become interested in over Connery's arc.
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>>70577103
>dat Taytay on the right
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>>70578629
LTK too low, diamonds are forever WAAAY too high
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>>70579616

>i did make a point of sitting all the way through that one

Pretty much sums up my experience with Skyfall. It left such a bitter taste in my mouth I haven't even given Spectre a chance yet.
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>>70579654

Wow. Honestly uncanny.
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>>70579672
>le skyfall is bad meme

I bet you loved Quantum too, huh?
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>>70578992
stop being a contrarian
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>>70579672
Skyfall was great you cuck.
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>>70574856
>>70575680

these two look like they ran a heavy ass noise reduction over the original film until it was watercolor like mushy grainless, then applied digital grain effect.

looks shit.
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1. Connery Bonds not including diamonds are forever
2. The spy who loved me
3. Casino royale
Power gap
4. Everything else
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>>70579610
He was criminally underutilized, but I still loved him and Nick Nack. The movie should have dropped the shitty mcguffin (Solvex or whatever the name is) and focused more on the villain as an expert assassin who kills in one shot. It could have been so much better, the end result wasn't shit only because of the villainous duo.
Maybe we will get some sort of soft remake of this movie, that would be great.
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>>70579840
>mary sue villain with mommy issues in a gritty, realistic movie
This shit didn't work in a serious Bond. Look at the other examples of more grounded entries, LTK, FYEO, CR, QoS had pretty plausible villains, nothing too ridiculous. Bardem was good, but his character sucked and ruined Skyfall.
Cinematography was top notch tho.
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>>70574856
Ran and The Good, The Bad and The Ugly remastered both look really good.
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>>70580143
>ruined

It's still a fantastic film.
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>>70578629
>The Man with the Golden Gun
>Shit
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>>70580379
It was not bad, but certainly not fantastic, lol...
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>>70580555
>hurr durr plot holes and silly villain that CinemaSins pointed out

The villain had fantastic screen presence.

also

>bond
>plot

The fact that the ending doesn't take place in a Bond Villian's lair and takes place in Bond's "lair" is just brilliant.

Judi's M also plays it very well.

The opening where James actually fails his mission?

That intro and song?

The cinematography?

All fantastic.
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>>70574856

how do they restore them for hi definition? are the original movie reels shot in hi definition or are they upscaled?
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>>70580871
>>hurr durr plot holes
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>>70580962
The original negatives are shot very carefully in 4K.
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>>70580991
>Bond
>Plot
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>>70581013

but wouldn't that cause a grainy look?
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>>70578455

That opening piano riff and the line, "nobody does it better", encapsulates Bond more than any other 10 seconds in any other film.
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>>70581064
This is how they do it

https://youtu.be/OPN16G_9H7Q

This video is on the Blu-Ray.
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>>70581064
they hire like 200000 indians for next to nothing and let them remove all the grains with tweezers.
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>>70581062
Yes, there's a plot
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>>70577103
this looks dreamy
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>>70581295
>implying a James Bond movie needs to have a perfect plot
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>>70575680
>>70574856
They're rereleasing them like every two years and always changing cover arts for some reason. One uglier than another. Probably cheaper that way.
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>>70574887
>>70575680
Some of the ones released here aren't too bad.
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>>70581436
>implying I ever implied that
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>>70575680
Just get the old blur-rays, the covers are far better. Whoever had the idea for those white spaces on the reissues should be fired

Also what the fuck is up with the GoldenEye transfer? The picture quality is utter shit, and it's one of the few films in the franchise that didn't get a restoration. Makes no sense considering it's one of the most popular
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>>70576905
That's sourced from 4k version that's very compressed. Blu-ray looks better.
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>>70581436

This.

Bond movies are a spectacle, not an artsy-fartsy narrative.

The "plot" is just a way for there to be as much eye candy and awesomeness as possible, with the coolest character ever created.

I absolutely love Bond movies, but pretending like they're better if they make Bond more human and vulnerable, and have anything like a realistic plot while giving up everything else just misses the point.
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>>70581703
>implying implications
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>>70578629
git gud at QoS
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>>70574856

read bluray.com about it
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Lawrence looks fantastic
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>>70576988
Connery looks like he has a horrible spray tan.
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Zulu, looks fucking amazing.
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sound of music, dunno if that was 70mm or not

also Baraka, from 1990-ish but still probably my favourite of all time. Looks reference quality
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>>70581896
>this context
>not Florence
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I really enjoy all the Shaw Bros and Mario Bava restorations
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>>70581732
I assume it is from a stream since the UHD disc is not out yet.
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>>70581955
how come primarily beautiful women would star in old movies?
Things have changed... now you have movies like Trainwreck and so on
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>>70582374
that's just cherry picking
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>>70574856
>What are other really good restorations of old films?

This
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>>70577116
You know why
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>>70577397
Bad pussy I say
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>>70582087
Arrow did a great job on Blood & Black Lace.
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>>70582817
It's a shame about all the ridiculous edits though.
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>>70583069
For what fuckin' purpose?

>It's a little unclear what R2-D2 is doing in this scene. Is he hiding or just hanging out in the shade? Better put some more rocks in front of him for the sake of clarity.
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>>70583139
he's hiding from some mobsters that just showed up
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>>70583069
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>>70574856
arent the old star treks like amazing now too?
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>>70583139
>>70583188

The length of this fucking wikipedia article says enough:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases

>Darth Vader now says "no" while the Emperor tortures Luke with lightning, and then screams "nooooo!" as he picks up the Emperor and throws him off a ledge.
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>>70582817

>special editions
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>>70584070

The changes/added stuff in the special editions are shitty and redundant but the picture quality of the blu ray editions are amazing
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The Crow and escape from new york could do with some kind of touch ups. Some parts are way too dark.
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>>70574856
>>70575680
1 minute in microsoft word
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>>70584493
maybe 2.
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>>70579437
yes
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>>70577103

>>What's Bond doing?

preparing for Re-Entry sir
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