Seriously though, what the fuck?
Even under the best tutelage, kids at 10 are still painfully inexperienced and basically retarded.
Children in these situations should be little more than puppets for their advisors.
And what's the deal with taking her into the fucking battlefield?
>>70558514
>kids at 10 are still painfully inexperienced and basically retarded these days, in the western world
Fixed your statement.
If you traveled at least a tiny bit you'll learn that 10 years old kids can know more about life than 20-something-years-old basement dwellers.
>>70558514
She was a puppet, most probably her mother or grandmother or some other elderly women is pulling the strings and there were advisors sitting next to her who controls army, economy, state,,etc.
>>70558514
she's a puppet for her advisors, also the bear island are known as a feminazi society, where women are bred for combat due to constant raiding and pillaging by the ironborn.
>>70558592
i'd control her army, economy, state, etc. if you know what i mean ;) ;)
>>70558592
>most probably her mother
her mother fought with Rob in season 2, you can see her in a couple of episodes, she got killed at the twins.
>>70558514
Game of Thrones didn't actually happen.
Crack open a history book.
While in most cases, you would be right, there are exceptions. Movies and tv are about these exceptions, not about the average and usual.
>>70558577
t.Mohamed
Sansa has been a bitch these past two episodes
>>70558514
She's a Mormont
She has the strength of 10 10 year old kids.
>>70558706
t. high school drop out
>>70558592
Her mother is dead.
>>70558514
>And what's the deal with taking her into the fucking battlefield?
A leader not joining their men on the battlefield
KEK, have you never lead and army? Fucking pleb
>brain doesn't stop developing until 25
>dummies here actually believe a kid as young as this could have the intelligence necessary to do such a large and nuanced job
>>70558514
They had to learn how to handle this stuff early in the Medieval era, with the help of advisors (you can see her asking the Maester and the Master of Arms questions).
This is really a rehash of Bran's S1-2 scenes where he had to act as the Lord of Winterfell while his brother was away, helped by Maester Luwin and Ser Rodrik.
>>70558706
>Movies and tv are about these exceptions, not about the average and usual.
This.
>>70558592
>>70558514
kek, there is nothing to control. they are sending 62 men, they may as well be a small village.people are more liberal when nothing of importance is on the line
>>70558772
why would she follow 62 men into battle when she has a castle full of people to rule
>>70558765
She's Batman?
>>70558795
This isn't modern life. Kids had to learn all of this much earlier in history, because there was always a chance that their parents would die.
>>70558710
>goes to ask guy for help
>"YOU HAVE A DUTY"
Did she go to danny's school of kingship?
>>70558795
most of the brain development past 12-13 years old is about learning how to fit in and kiss peoples asses
the tactical genius however is already present in a child's mind, as can be seen in the case of some famous conquerors
I thought that girl play her part really well. Expecting more from her in the future, seems really cute as well.
Now,
>GoT is a fantasy world
>even if it wasn't you have to remind yourself that the average life expectancy in the medieval era was about 40 ish years
>You were considered a man when you were 13-14 and a woman when you menstruated for the first time
>House Mormont always had a Women Warrior cult
>She has advisors and she probably had a privileged upbringing meaning she's well educated
>Kids would go through a lot in the medieval era, specially in times of war making them tough
What you see today in the western world is pampered and spoiled brats, hence the SJW cult you see nowadays. Today a 20 year old still lives with his parents and doesn't know how to change the tire of car much less how to fight.
Back then it was a sink or swim situation, you were either weak and died in your youth from disease of famine or you were strong and survived.
>>70558833
62 men were sent because they probably don't trust Jon and Sansa. Bear Island is bigger than 62 warriors, but they were probably left to guard the people.
She went into the field because, I dunno. To look important?
>>70558834
Leaders did that to keep ruling. When your people think you're a coward, they might rebel.
I thought all you GoT fags were just memeing when you post all those "DandD feminist propaganda" shit, but then i read an article about this character and holy balls.
>>70558834
It's still her army and she is going to war. Size doesn't matter.
>>70558833
considering they lost most of their men following Robb, the 62 remaining they're able to spare won't be proportional to their actual population, even though she confirms they're a small house
>>70558872
Example?
>>70558860
Stannis's.
>"I am the rightful king! Of course you must help me, it's your DUTY!"
Dany at least tries a triehard coolgal act to receive awe and respect of the feeble minded.
>>70558834
to help lead her men, mostly at critical points, to recall them or do other stuff. mostly such representation helps with loot distribution and making sure that your people are not the ones always put in the vanguard or neglected in food distribution
>>70558904
Spoonfeeding isn't good for your brain development.
>kids at 10 are still painfully inexperienced and basically retarded
Confirmed for never leaving the house.
>>70558708
he fucked a 9 nine year old, not the other way arround. he was the first pedo
>>70558834
If you followed a loli queen into battle, wouldn't you give everything you have and more ?
kinda cringy scene.
>>70558514
>kids at 10 are still painfully inexperienced
ask a 10 year old Chinese gymnast something about gymnastics.What do you think she did all they, watch tv?unlike Shireen she did not grew up in a group that thinks women can't rule and unlike bran she was not the 4th backup so yes she has skill that comes from being raised for a job. you can even see her childish side when davos starts talking
>>70558987
kys
>>70558983
no, i'd be more likely to ignore her orders when it came down to the wire due to her inexperience and fundamental lack of intelligence
>>70558875
>tire of car
that is next level, many can't use the washing machine
>>70558942
>I have nothing to back up my claims
>>70558881
62 men got sent because most of their people died during the wedding and they do still need men to stay and guard against iron born and other shit but when you talk kingdoms and territories you talk in thousands not in 62s
>>70559046
>literally 0.38 seconds of googling
http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/6-child-monarchs-who-changed-history
>>70558881
>To look important?
to learn
>>70559090
>clickbait
>half of the examples are legends made up after the fact
'no'
>>70558514
there are kids in collage at that age not every kid is retarded
>>70558514
Still a better actress/character than Emilia Clarke
>>70558983
depends on her personality and my power. If I can fly and do some other cool shit than I will indulge ideas even if they come with risk. cool personality is key, if she is a whiny bitch or the type that gets melancholic about cherry blossoms and won't let me kill unarmed enemies than I may just desert and look for a better ruler
>62 good men
Ramsay is done.
>>70558969
>>70558514
she's not 10 you retarded fuck she looks about 5'2" standing next to others in the camp and is obviously about 14 years old.
>>70559130
>lel clickbait
You sure convinced me, bro.
>>70559090
>“King Tut” inherited the throne at the age of 9 or 10 and initially ruled Egypt under the direction of advisers due to his young age.
where is his personal contribution?faggot was a cripple and his sisters puppet
>>70559130
So, the only thing you want is to "not be wrong on the internet"?
I don't talk to your kind.
>>70559090
>King Baldwin IV not only saved Jerusalem from capture at the age of 16, but he did it while suffering from a debilitating disease. Born in 1161, Baldwin IV rose to power at the age of 15 following the death of his father, Amalric I. Despite suffering from leprosy since childhood, Baldwin IV would go on to repeatedly defend his Christian kingdom against Saladin, the famed Muslim military tactician who ruled as sultan of Egypt and Syria.
>mfw the only thing i did repeatedly at the age of 16 was masturbating to chinese cartoons
>>70559197
She is stated to be 10 in season 5 by Stannis, so she is either 10 or 11 now.
>>70559090
>Mary Stuart—more famously known as Mary, queen of Scots—ruled as queen of two separate nations before she was 18 years old. Mary became queen of Scotland after her father died only six days after her birth in 1542. While she was too young to govern, her position as a royal made the infant queen a very influential figure in international relations. Anxious to unite Scotland and England, in 1543 King Henry VIII proposed a future marriage between Mary and his son Edward. Political tensions between the two countries led the Scottish parliament to reject the engagement, and Mary was sheltered in various castles after Henry VIII invaded Scotland and tried to force the marriage in what became known as the “Rough Wooing.”
To keep her out of reach of the English, in 1548 the 5-year-old queen was taken to France. At 16 she married Francis II, briefly ruling as queen of France after he ascended the throne. Following Francis’ death, in 1561 Mary returned to Scotland to resume her duties as queen. She remarried twice as an adult, but a 1567 uprising forced to her abdicate the Scottish throne and flee to England. There she was imprisoned for nearly 19 years before being executed for her unwitting role in a plot to overthrow Queen Elizabeth I.
again,where is the personal contribution?
>>70559225
Maybe, but he went into battle at a very young age.
>>70558514
I wanna do some heavy petting with her
>>70559242
mfw have a based last name
>>70559225
>inherited the throne at the age of 9 or 10
>thought to have ruled for 10 years
Read the whole thing, that means almost all of his contributions were as a fucking teenager.
>>70559000
was it not a cringy scene?
>>70559242
>mfw the only thing i did repeatedly at the age of 16 was masturbating to chinese cartoons
Im sure it was the will of God
It's okay there is a je- I mean maestar whispering in her ear
>>70558710
>sells out her family to lannister fucking shits several times
>past two episodes
She's always been a bitch mate
>>70559262
so?leadership usually sits in a tent after doing a ride along the line to show their presence(tops) strategy is given out but for all you know the advisers made it. I saw a guy get shot when I was 5, does not make me wise and epic
>>70558860
He should have told Sansa that her duty is to spread those legs and produce a bolton heir
>>70559303
I thought it was
kid actors are always cringe
>>70559282
>moving the goal post
>>70558872
>>70558992
>she was not the 4th backup
She actually is. Jeor, Jorah, Maege were the lords before her, Jorah being the proper successor that fell from grace and Maege eating it at the Red Wedding.
Given that she has older sisters who are absent for some reason (but definitely not dead), Lyanna is actually closer to the 6th or 7th in line.
>>70559345
He died on the battlefield. He was a fucking warrior king.
>>70558987
It was cringy, nothing 'kinda' about it. No kid at the age of 10 is as eloquent as that girl was
>>70559345
>seeing some nigger get shot is equivalent to leading an army into battle
>>70558514
Check your ageist privelege
>>70558514
You're not giving her the benefit of the doubt and you're not even looking at what happened.
She approached the situation with all the discretion and maturity of an adult. She had to be convinced to make her decision.
I'd like to see your dumbass in the hotseat.
>>70559197
Sansa says she's 10 in the episode and Stannis said the same in the previous season you dumb nigger.
>>70559365
he also had a point about her not being a start, the whole cloak swap thing is to show she is leaving her house and becoming part of a new one, there should not be a "taking back my maiden name". technically she never divorced tyrion but still married the bolton so I guess they do whatever they want
>>70559390
tfw Tut's heart was crushed beyond recognition and he was mummified heartless, which means that he could never go on his journey after death
This is an Illyria/Fred level of sad.
>>70559378
How exactly is that moving the goal post? The point is the same, good rulers are born and already show signs of leadership from a young age. The opposite is probably correct too, in that list there's even an example of a bad ruler (Elagabalus) who managed to get assassinated when he was 18 because he fucked with everybody.
>>70559420
>She approached the situation with all the discretion and maturity of an adult.
That's what makes the scene so silly.
In the GoT universe people have to age quickly. In the books Jon was 14 when he went to the wall, and Robb wasn't much older when crowned KINGINDANORF
>>70559390
are you memeing? he died from being inbreed, faggot could not even ride a chariot because with his partially clubbed foot he was unable to stand unaided
>>70558514
in medieval times ppl actually married at the age of 12 or 13, so being 10 in medieval times is equal to being like 18 or 19 now (remember romeo and juliet? juliet is actually 13 is this story). The children back then were more mature, they started working with 5 etc.
>>70558514
Bran was Lord of Winterfell once Rob left. The only reason you can't comprehend this is because it's a loli
>>70559566
>juliet is actually 13 is this story
Too old.
>>70559303
She isn't Dakota Fanning tier cringe tho
>there are people actually trying to defend this
>>70558577
>>70558706
>>70558829
>>70558875
>>70558872
>>70559090
>>70559453
the point is that no 5 year old is going to save an army with some genius insight.people on the list took the throne young but that does not mean they had leadership skills and were not anyone's puppet
>>70559566
the whole "people died at 40" is bit of a meme, statistics are a bit crooked due to high infant mortality
>>70558514
>kids at 10 are still painfully inexperienced and basically retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFxiZjayyZg
>>70559573
>Bran was Lord of Winterfell
and he sucked at it
>>70558875
Citation needed
>>70559627
5 year old is an exaggeration, but if they aren't competent enough at a young age they either ruin the lives of other people or just get quickly removed by them.
Being anyone's puppet also doesn't mean they don't have leadership skills. This Mormont girl is portrayed as a decent ruler but gets charmed by Davos anyway.
>>70559676
This is literally the same thing, she's clearly being fed this crap.
>>70558514
>Even under the best tutelage, kids at 10 are still painfully inexperienced and basically retarded.
>literally repeating the advice of her maester
Excellent observation skills, anon.
>>70559676
Eww she burped
>>70558514
He looks like Bran
>>70559676
Damn.
>>70558833
62 Bear Island men
They are as strong as 620
>>70558969
Wtf? Likenesses of the prophet are forbidden.hypocrisy
>>70559928
>we're one or two episodes away from a war room council meeting discussing power levels
B R A V O D & D
R
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V
O
D
&
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Cult of the badass
>>70558514
I'm guessing you are not a fan of Arya either.
>>70558514
My problem with her is the amount of arrogance she has, we used to shit on the main characters when the behaved like that in the first seasons but somehow people love this little shit, hypocrisy much?
>>70560066
>liking cold steel the edgehog
Nothin personel
>>70560105
>declared for King Rob
>her mom dies in the war of the five kings
>Rob ends up with a fucking direwolf sewn to his neck
The fact that Bear island is actually an island makes it that much more isolated from the mainland feuds. What I don't understand is taht Jorah said he bankrupt his house to appease his wife, yet House Mormont can still spare 62 able bodied knights?
>>70560144
that's euron
>>70560105
>We
Only you liberal cuck Sanders (RIP Bernie Sanders Relevancy 2016-2016) basement dwelling girl pants wearing kike enabling nigger loving supporters thought this way.
Real men have always liked the hardasses on this show.
>>70560167
You can be an skeptic and say no without being an arrogant cunt, just look how she treats her advisors
>>70560167
He never went bankrupt.
>Jorah married Lynesse Hightower, but his new wife had expensive tastes which Jorah struggled to fund to make her happy. Ultimately he resorted to selling poachers into slavery, which has been illegal in the Seven Kingdoms for millennia and is a great taboo throughout Westeros. Jorah was caught and disgraced. He was stripped of his Lordship and fled to the Free Cities to avoid being executed by Eddard Stark.
>>70559435
Tyrion never consummated the marriage, so in a medieval society the marriage could be annulled easily.
>>70559948
>>70558577
No, you retard. Every children under 15 is stupid annoying cunts.
>inb4: t.16-years old
>>70558834
>entire thread full of people shitposting about a 10 year old cant possibly lead a castle
>now its not okay for a 10 year old to lead her people in battle
There are dragons and zombies and women with substantial power who are actually sexually attractive. Its a fantasy show guys.. Its not even high fantasy either.
>>70558514
DOES THE NEW QUEEN OF /TV/ TRIGGER YOU OP?
>>70560105
>arrogance she has
are you sure you don't just hate women?I have seen lots of arrogance in this show and I think you are seeing what is not there
>>70560204
>Robb
>Hardass
>Jon
>Hardass
>Arya
>Hardass
>Long etc
I meant the undeserving arrogant cunts, not people like the hound who has lived long enough and saw enough to know shit
I hate characters that behave like badasses without deserving it
I want to put a bear inside her stomach, a cub that'll be kicking from within.
It'll be loud, though without vocal cords, she'll put an end to him.
We'll make all the right appointments no one ever has to know,
and then tomorrow I'll turn twenty-one, we'll script another show.
We'll play charades up in the Chelsea, drink champagne, although you shouldn't be.
We'll be blind and dumb until we fall asleep.
None of our friends will come, they dodge our calls, and they have for quite awhile now.
It's not a shock, you don't seem to mind, and I just can't see how.
>>70560306
>let's turn this into a misogynist problem
Nice bait, you actually made me reply
>>70560258
Resorting to something illegal sort of implies he was out of money, anon.
>>70560234
>just look how she treats her advisors
she needs to show that she is in charge while in front of guests.she can't really be sitting on old mans lap and gating patted on the head everytime she says their whispers out loud
>>70558514
12 years old is the age nobility were considered adults in the middle ages.
>>70560306
Didn't know Geoffrey, Jon and Robb were girls, then yes, it must be that I hate women,not that they act like undeserving arrogants.
>>70560283
no one knows that and after ramsay there is no way to prove it
>>70560323
The Antlers are overrated hipster garbage.
>>70560380
>Robb
not being hype for robb
>not supporting Jon when he is the only one that sees the big picture
Do you think everyone should suck dick just to come off nice?
This reminds me we never got Dacey Mormont.
>>70559663
yes but children inheriting responsibility (including paternity and marriage) was common, even for whites which have always had this semi aversion to it when compared to Asians/Arabs/Niggers
>>70560293
t. 16-year old
>>70559948
It's not Muhammad, it's Ali.
>>70560429
I meant the Jon in the first seasons, anon, follow the trail of conversation. Right now he's more experienced, wise and calm
>>70560313
Arya was never really arrogant, she was just reckless and lucky a bunch of a times. She knew she wasn't shit.
Robb wasn't arrogant, he was confident in his abilities which were superior to everyone he encountered at war. His problem was that he was an idiot when it came to politics and everyone around him was useless.
Jon was never arrogant about anything ever and I have no idea why you thought that. He only made LC because Sam tricked everyone.
Actually pay attention to the story you fucking reddit cliff notes hipster faggot.
I bet there are more experienced kids out there in the world then most of the people in this thread
Yeah, really painfully inexperienced.
Even though the person playing that girl is probably 10 or so IRL and is an actor. Probably more competent than you.
>>70558514
Bear Island is an isolated place. They have 62 fighting men. Their previous leader died, along with the rest of their fighting men, under Robb Stark. Their leader before that went to the Wall out of shame for the fact his son and heir was exiled for... I'm not sure what the right term is. Slave-mongering?
Anyway, Bear Island's a wonderful piece of nothing with nobody on it. Might as well let a ten year old run the place at that point. They have quite literally nothing to lose.
>people forgetting "you know nothing" Jon Snow" everytime he behaved like an entitled arrogant cunt
It hasn't been that long, anons
>>70560406
careful with that mustache
>>70560489
Robb won like 3 battles before he got killed at the age of 16, he wasn't that amazing
>>70558969
Hey let's clear the air. He stuck his dick between her thighs at 9, he finally fucked her at 11.
>>70560477
>implying its unreasonable to be butthurt when your dead lets his wife bully you despite being "muh honorfag" and half your siblings acting like you subhuman
>MFW born in the "best" family in the world and still get dragged to the wall with rapists and thieves
yeah he had no reason to be salty or feel like he is better than a rapist
>>70560545
He sure behaved like he was.
>>70559621
Well, at least they are trying to defend their point instead of just quoting people and giving nothing of value towards their point of view.
Thanks for stating the obvious that people are trying to defend their opinion, I wouldn't of known that if you didn't clearly lay it out for me.
She did act like a 0 year old though
>tells her a ghost story
>pls take my men and make the spooky men go away
>>70560105
She isn't arrogant but pissed that House Stark is condescending towards her by begging yet again for support and effectively trying to force her to help them by saying "muh oaths".
House Stark is dead and dysfunctional and she'd risk her own house for a Bastard and Ned Starks daughter that married a Bolton (from a law standpoint she really is a Bolton now)
>>70560526
>"you know nothing" Jon Snow"
to me that often sounded more like something a smug fool would say thinking knew the best.halfway it was all meme and no bite
>>70560606
yeah I was surprised that no one questioned the claims of undead rising
>>70560105
She's shitting on Jon and Sansa, she gets a pass.
Honestly every child of a noble should be raised the way bearloli was considering what's expected of them. Every other kid is more or less useless and has to be taught by others because their parents didn't bother.
Even Arya needed it so forget about bitches like Sansa who is still useless.
>are you a Bolton? Or is it a Lannister?
>I-i-i-i did what I h-h-had to do
She effortlessly rattled MUH EMPOWERED Sansa. Whether or not that's because Sansa's character development is in line with the thinking of a ten year or or not is irrelevant. The Stark name is gone and she fucking called them on it. Once Arya makes a miracle recovery and sails back to Westeros, the houses will actually rally.
>>70560742
>I did what I had to do
Lay there and take it like a stump?
When's Gendry coming back?
>>70560735
modern parents just throw their kids off on their teacher's or daycare providers and never bother actually raising their kids on their own. it's sad
>>70560735
As the successor to their houses, they topically are taught as such. Literally taught from birth to rule and govern people. It's the whole reason that nobility and peasants are separate. This negative reaction from the GoTfags is so confusing to me, when it feels like it should be incredibly obvious why she acted like a little cunt.
>>70560984
seasons last for years, tides for decades
fucking showfags
>Tywin got killed
>Got Bear Island Loli instead
I'm okay with this
Am I the only one who is going to address the elephant in the room? Fine then...
Why THE FUCK is nobody questioning Jon Snow about leaving the Watch? Isn't deserting the Night's Watch pretty much among the worst things you can do?
His father killed a deserter retreating from White Walkers, claiming he was a madman. If his father was alive and arrested him, wouldn't he have him executed all the same? He surely wouldn't believe that he died and got resurrected, right?
>>70561308
Everyone knows he's Azor Ahai and that he got resurrected which means his oath was fullfilled.
It's why no one asks.
>>70561308
As far as anyone knows, he's the lord commander. If he's traveling on official business, ie warning the northern houses about a potential war + the night king, then why would they question it?
>>70561366
Getting resurrected doesn't make you Azor Ahai though. Does that mean Gregor Clegane is Azor Ahai? Jon hasn't done anything to prove he's Azor Ahai and he definitely doesn't believe in R'hllor.
Bran is more likely but knowing these faggots it's probably Arya.
I'd like it to be Jorah.
>>70561000
Well, people have jobs, I'd imagine kids are a massive pain in the ass for no real payoff. Nice trips.
>>70561054
I guess it comes down to their personality or whatever. Tommen for example, total bitch.
>>70561457
>Tommen for example, total bitch.
True, though I would argue that Joffrey was the one groomed as the heir, whereas tommen was taught how to rule a lesser house, like taking the seat as the ruler at Dragonstone due to his being the third heir to the throne. It would make sense that they hadn't really prepared him for it.
>>70558514
>And what's the deal with taking her into the fucking battlefield?
Moral. In the medieval age soldiers fought for their lords, not countries or even families.
>>70558651
If she got killed at the Twins, why is Lyanna so hesitant to fight the Boltons? She just says Maege died ''fighting for your brother Robb'', so apparently that's Robb's fault.
