5>4>6>7>3>1>2
Debate meYou can't
i literally cant
Swap 7 and 3 and we're good.
Your opinion is meme tier at best
Here's the REAL objective ranking
3 > 5 > some gap > 4 > 6 = 1 > 2 > huge gap > 7
>>70554239
congrats, you picked the order that basically everyone on the planet agrees with.
Why did you make this thread?
>>70554239
6>5>4>7>1>3>2
Actually I totally agree with you.
>>70554239
5>4>6>2>1>3>7
7 doesnt have that much replay value for me.
>>70554307
RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>70554239
>that poster
Han Solo and Luke are smaller than obscure characters who get 10 seconds of screen time.
Lucas needs to die already.
> I am the only one who realises 4>5
>>70554239
>Putting 1 above 2
4>everything else because they were really unnecessary and don't add enough that was executed more subtly and precise in 4
>>70554422
At least one had soul
>>70554428
>subtly
die kid
>>70554239
>typical ranking of a 14 year old
>le debate me!
Way to deviate from the retarded teenage plebeian /tv/ stereotype, faggot
Yoda's actually a pretty shit Jedi considering how long he had to gain XP.
>>70554460
Poor baby needs his movies to pound him over the head. Sit on a lightsaber
>>70554485
Fuck off back to /v/ with your le subtle bullshit
>>70554239
That's the exact way I'd rank them. Good work, OP.
>>70554239
Humans have no home planet
>>70554239
>Objective
5>4>6>7>3>1>2
>My opinion
4>5>6>7>2>1>3
>>70554639
>3 last
>7 anywhere in the list
lmfao fucking pleb ass kid
>>70554667
>likes 3
>calls me a kid
Sounds about right actually.
4 and 6 are hard to place, especially on a scene to scene basis.
>>70554693
it's the most feels focused SW kino to date
5 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 1 = 2 = 3
ftfy
>>70554707
I don't care about feels, you faggot. RotS is a mess and it's painful to watch.
>>70554745
then you don't care about what made SW good, kid
>>70554239
Typical redditlist
3>2>5>6>4>1
>>70554239
You nailed it.
5>4>6>3>1>7>2
>>70554397
>>70554420
I hate you redditors so much. Why do you come here? Why not stay on r/StarWars where you can jerk each other off all day?
>>70554239
>>70554307
>>70554317
>>70554379
>>70554639
>>70554723
>>70554789
>>70554801
GET OUT THE WAY PLEBS
>>70555022
>7 good
lol kid
>>70555022
cringe
>>70555046
there's no need to deny the truth anon.
Le 7 is better than the prequels but not as good as OT
also, 5 is my favorite
>>70555180
gtfo
7 was basically a marvel movie, I don't really think ita fair to compare it to 1-6.
5>4>6>3>1>2
5>4>=7>6>Shit>1>3>2
>>70555295
/thread
The movie felt off, it was good but not saga good
>>70554239
I'd only swap 4 and 5.
>>70555288
Ben Schwartz was not in TFA.
Also, just because Ocsar Isaac grew up in New York, doesn't mean he's Jewish.
>>70554639
>Objective
5>4>6>7>3>2>1
>My opinion
4>5>6>7>3>1>2
>>70555559
meh, 7 should be higher.
>>70555460
>Ben Schwartz was not in TFA.
BB-8, M8.
>>70554239
5 being the best is the ultimate meme opinion and the surest sign that somebody is a thoughtless retard.
3 = 6 = 4 > 1 = 2 >= 5
5 is the middle of a trilogy and drags too much because it doesn't do enough to work as a self-contained story. People say 'objectively' best but I think it's the weakest as a stand-alone movie. A stand-alone movie can't be one third of a greater plot and if it weren't for 'I AM YOUR FATHER' becoming one of the greatest memes in the history of film nobody would remember it.
I know plot isn't the be all and end all criticism though as we're dealing with a visual medium. Somebody tell me why Empire Strikes Back is so fucking good.
9 times out of ten when I write this all the responses are 'ARE YOU KIDDING ME' tier. Go on /tv/, prove you aren't the that guy of movies.
>>70555639
>image.jpg
>1 character worth of meme-text
That's about what I expected
>>70555622
>why is 5 the best
>the magic of the yoda reveal and his wisdom
>the really organic Han/Leia romance
>hoth battle visuals
>Vader is cool
>cloud city visuals
>that tense, beautiful Luke/Vader duel
Anon, it's really good.
I don't strongly dislike 3. Heck, the only star wars I strongly dislike is 1. But in Sith...
>greivous is lame
>Anakin/Padme romance is still pretty bad
>politics drags a bit, not too bad, and if you fucking dare tell me I'm a kid who can't sit down for some deeper political talking scenes, then bitch, I watched 7 seasons of the West Wing
>why is the mustafar fight so fucking long, holy shit
Really, most of what I like about Sith is Palpatine. The Anakin/Obi conclusion is good before the mega long fight, some of Anakin's stuff about doubting the counsel and going dark is ok, the opening scene looks good. It's not the worst movie, but it's far from Empire. Frankly, I wouldn't even consider it on Jedi's or Awaken's level.
>>70554239
the fuck is this?
I don't even know which is which anymore
5 > 3 > 4 > 6 > 7 > 1 >> 2
If you disagree, you are not worthy of life.
>>70554239
5>4>6>3>7>1>2
Fixed it for you. However, your mistake is not significant enough to warrant a debate.
>>70554239
No need
![Star.Wars.Episode.I.The.Phantom.Menace.1999.1080p.REMUX.BluRay.AVC.DTS.HD.MA.6.1-HDA.mkv_snapshot_01.53.54_[2016.06.07_10.35.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mO2BBLI.jpg "Star.Wars.Episode.I.The.Phantom.Menace.1999.1080p.REMUX.BluRay.AVC.DTS.HD.MA.6.1-HDA.mkv_snapshot_01.53.54_[2016.06.07_10.35.29].jpg")
5>4>6/1>2/3>>7
>>70554239
Ok lets do this....
5>6>3>4>2>7>1.
I'm hoping ep VIII will be better.
>>70556082
All that stuff you listed about 5 really doesn't amount to a load. There are a couple of particularly good looking scenes and the characters develop RELATIVELY WELL (this is still Star Wars, not the fucking Deer Hunter) but that isn't enough to make a masterpiece. Yoda is pretty generic as far as eastern style sages go. Lucas took the idea to a new audience but didn't really take it in any amazing new direction, Yoda's a tiny green Yuen Siu-tien, his manner of speaking doesn't sound so bizarre when you realize he's meant to sound like an old as fuck Chinese man.
Mustafar fight is cut in with other stuff happening, it's not the same as when you watch it on youtube. And it's a cool effects spectacle, I'm usually willing to forgive action scenes that go on for way too long if they're impressive (like Police Story 3 for example).
Anakin and Padme do have some weird ass dialogue but I think in 3 it goes for more of a melodramatic star-crossed lovers tone, as opposed to 2 which felt a bit too close to genuine autism. And the politics never really bugged me but i can understand how they could and I liked Grievous but I like all of the prequels' retarded side-characters.
>>70554239
why would i want to debate you, OP? your list is not controversial or upsetting in anyway. good show.
meanwhile
>>70554307
>>70554317
>>70554379
>>70554789
>>70554801
>>70556120
>>70556137
are total morons. anyone that places the prequels anywhere but the bottom of the rubbish bin don't deserve to have opinions.
>>70556280
>anyone that places the prequels anywhere but the bottom of the rubbish bin don't deserve to have opinions.
>have my meme opinion or i wont listen to u xD
>>70556280
>k-pop poster
opinion discarded
>>70554239
REAL LIST
2>1>3>7>6>4>5
>>70554292
>>70554446
I don't think you can call the prequels soulless
>>70556249
I recognize that Yoda isn't exactly original, but the execution is superb. Yoda's interactions with Luke in Empire, it's just a huge part of what I love about Star Wars. Factor in that stuff, the duel, Han and Leia interactions, and two very good looking locations that seem really cool and have cool stuff happening, plus pretty much all the Vader stuff is cool, and that's not just a few good scenes and some well developed characters(for Star Wars), that's most of the movie filled with good to great content.
Mustafar effects, I just didn't like them much. Floating over lava, swinging at each other or something, climbing up some stupid thing while fighting, and they're not sweating or tired or hurting...it's just such a gawdy mess for most of it. Color me not impressed, it was a drag on what would have otherwise been a really good scene. The initial conversation they're having feels pretty good, but I'd rather their battle be tight, to the point, and not slop out all the dramatic tension that's been built up with shit that doesn't fit the theme of a dark betrayal and a friend doing something he hates.
5 > 4 > 7 > 3 > 6 >>>>>>>>> 2 > 1
>>70556686
>i got my opinion from newgrounds
>>70554239
Finally somebody gets it right on the first try.
>>70554239
Is this some kind of reverse bait where you post a fact and encourage people to disprove it?
5>4>6>Guardians of the Galaxy>3>7>1>2
objective order
3>7>5>4>2>6>1
>>70554239
I can and I will
1>5>4>3>6>7>2
Now YOU debate me
>>70556971
How is Phantom Menace the best?
>>70557146
I'm not gonna lie it's the perfect prequel, except for maul's death (he should have been a major villain) and anakin and padme's acting. Even that midichlorian shit makes sense if you consider that it was supposed to be set in a "more civilised time". It doesn't try to copy the OT like TFA did, it had a completely different mood and I respect that.
the script wasn't perfect of course but it's a very immersive movieactually, 5 is objectively better but I prefer 1
>>70557296
I mean, I agree with you on most of those things, but is it really better than 3?
>>70557431
Never been a fan of 3 since I was a kid, I haven't watched it in years though, I'm downloading it right now tbf thanks for reminding me
>>70554316
true but i rarely see it posted on here, and when it is, it usually gets shit on because a lot of people here think 2 > 1 lol.
>>70555460
yeah, oscar isaac hernandez is a spic.
>>70554239
3>5>4>7>1>6>2
>>70557296
>except for maul's death
Maul's death is one of the things I liked best about TPM. He was built up as this major villain and antagonist, and they had the balls to kill him off in the first installment. I loved how the prequels tried to play with our expectations.
>>70554239
Nah man, 7 is top 3.
>>70554307
This.
>>70555288
BASED GEORGE
>>70556280
Pleb, pls.
>>70554239
Bretty gud list OP
Personally would go for 4>5>6>7>1>3>2 but we only differ on small point I'm sure and I respect your right to an alternate opinion
This is a nice thread :^)
>>70554239
5 > 3 > gap > 4 > 6 > 2 > 1
OUTTA MY WAY DISNEY FUCKING SHITS
>>70555288
>the less jewish a movie is the better
really anons?
>>70557686
Wow this is 100% accurate. Saved.
5>4>6>7=3>1>2
7 was better than 3, but 3 had Sheev.
5 > 4 > 6 > 2 > 3 > 7 > 1
>>70555559
Attack of the Clones wasn't so bad.
>>70554825
I wonder if they have contrarian faggots like you who say the prequels are good
I bet they do
>>70555022
Perfect, except the ROTS face should be vomiting up blood
>>70557827
>>70557832
ENOUGH, IF YOU AREN'T GOING TO ELABORATE YOUR POST IS WORTHLESS!
>the Episode II is bad meme
Despite a few bad performances, I'll take Lucas channeling John Ford and Raymond Chandler over JJ Abrams trash any day of the week.
>>70555418
If the shit pile prequels are canon, literally anything is good enough to be.
6>5>4>7>3>1>2
>>70555622
You uncultured swine, please extinguish yourself
>>70554239
You're absolutelyright
>>70557935
wow great argument faglord you sure burned me with those hot opinions, oh wait, you don't even have an opinion. If you did you could at the least earn the prestigious title of 'wrong.' As you stand now with this post your contribution to the discussion is nothing.
YOU KILL YOURSELF, FAGGOT
>>70557296
>Even that midichlorian shit makes sense if you consider that it was supposed to be set in a "more civilised time"
So this is what prequel apologists tell themselves
>>70558001
What do you tell yourself to make calling everyone who doesn't mind the idea of midichlorians a retard seem fine?
>muh mystery
Unless you can explain how making the force a physical phenomena actively hurts Star Wars you're just a memeing faggot.
>>70557991
Your butthurt is palpable. I can literally taste it.
Anyone who ranks any prequel above any part of the OT is a waste of life who should be exterminated, even children understand this
>>70558055
I'm still waiting for your 'explanation' of why it isn't an inherently stupid idea. Even if it was a good idea, it's never mentioned or elaborated upon again, which makes it pointless. What did it accomplish? What is better about Star Wars now that we know that midichlorians exist? It was an explanation we didn't need for something we already accepted. It also ruins the idea that anyone can be a Jedi. Turns it into shitty power level rankings which even fucking Dragon Ball Z had he sense to stop mentioning after awhile because IT'S FUCKING BORING.
>>70557900
>I don't want to be a shill for an evil corporation like Disney so I'll shill for Lucasfilm
Congrats, you're stupid.
>>70558149
>Turns it into shitty power level rankings
It didn't, though.
Your Midichlorian count does not indicate your aptitude with the Force.
And it most definitely did not ruin the idea that anyone can be a Jedi because everyone has midichlorians.
I'm not the anon you're arguing with, and I'm not saying midichlorians are good, but you clearly haven't completely understood what midichlorians were supposed to be.
>>70558055
To be fair, he didn't call you a retard, he called you a prequel apologist.
>>70558221
>Your Midichlorian count does not indicate your aptitude with the Force.
>And it most definitely did not ruin the idea that anyone can be a Jedi because everyone has midichlorians.
Okay. I'd really love to hear why that scene isn't completely fucking useless then.
>>70558055
>>70558221
Okay, so anyone can be a Jedi because everyone has midichlorians, but they clearly indicate that the more you have, the more force aptitude you have. "Even Master Yoda doesn't have a midichlorian count that high!" So you can be a Jedi, but whether or not you'll be a weak shitty Jedi no one cares about or an amazing one depends entirely on a factor of your genetic makeup that you have no control over whatsoever?
The most disciplined, studious, dedicated Jedi in the universe still sucks compared to the arrogant idiot who happens to have had the right parents. Why, that's just like the random misery of real life, and not like escapist fantasy at all.
Yeah, I'm gonna say that (at least in part) ruins Star Wars.
Other than Hand and Chewie coming back what does TFA offer? Serious question here.
>space battles are shit, not tension at all in any of them
>character development is low to non-existant tier
>death-star 3, now bigger, stronger and as flawed as the first 2, also manned by space nazis
>if you take out Han Solo all the characters are bland and forgettable, except the "Sith Lord" that obliterated Luke's Jedi order, that its not forgettable because you fucking hate him with passion for being a beta kid instead of the heir of Darth Vader
>the argument of the movie is the search of the Resistance of Luke, something that happends in the firts and last 5 minutes of the film, and that only experiments development because deus ex machina R2-D2 waking up at the end
>That fucking last scene, seriously JJ? You saw that and you tought it would be nice to have that scene as the last of your movie?
>>70558357
There's no indication that your midichlorian count is genetic.
>whether or not you'll be a weak shitty Jedi no one cares about or an amazing one depends entirely on a factor of your genetic makeup that you have no control over whatsoever?
So almost like real life, then?
>>70558149
>never mentioned or elaborated upon again, which makes it pointless
This is too stupid to address
>what did it accomplish/change/improve
Midichlorians being a physical phenomena kind of tied into the eastern mysticism thing Lucas set up in the OT. Qui-Gonn's midichlorian explanation is as much about his philosophy as biology. Through his explanation of how these tiny cells in anakin's body keep him alive and vice versa he's talking about how the whole galaxy works symbiotically. The only physical effect the high midichlorian count has on Anakin is getting him noticed by Qui-Gonn. It doesn't make him a super-jedi.
>>70558198
Shill doesn't mean 'person who likes something' you fucktard, it means somebody trying to sell you something. It gets spammed to hell and back here but that's what it means. Nobody would have any reason to sell Attack of the Clones, anon just likes it.
>>70558233
It's the sentiment.
>>70558357
>whether or not you'll be a weak shitty Jedi no one cares about or an amazing one depends entirely on a factor of your genetic makeup that you have no control over whatsoever?
No. Obi-Wan kicks anakin's ass and he doesn't have a billion more midichlorians than him. Dooku kicks anakin's ass by being a better duelist. General Grievous kills jedi with lightsabers despite not even having midichlorians. You faggots never stop sucking off Yoda but apparently nothing he said sank in.
>Size matters not
>>70558382
>that scene
Can you imagine them filming it.
>Yeah Daisy, keep your arm out, don't move, just keep staring at him, Mark, great stuff
>>70558416
>Mark, great stuff
>here's your paycheck
>>70554292
This.
Bretty good, OP.
>>70558492
truly insightful anon. share more of your mindblowing opinions.
>>70557296
>>70556971
I agree with you 90%. 5 is the best according to me but 1 is a close second.
>>70558416
>The only physical effect the high midichlorian count has on Anakin is getting him noticed by Qui-Gonn. It doesn't make him a super-jedi.
You're right about pretty much everything else, but you're objectively wrong about this. Anakin's midichlorian count literally does make him a super-jedi.
>>70558533
What? This thread is about ranking the Star Wars films. I said I agree with the OP rankings except for the position of 7 and 3. What more do you want?
>>70558058
Children are the only ones who understand it.
>>70558382
>space battles are shit, not tension at all in any of them
The only reason why you would think this is if you were predisposed against the movie because muh Jews
>character development is low to non-existant tier
I'll admit that Rey is too good at things right off the bat but her apprehension to the lightsaber and her first 'vision' alone gives her more character to work with than in any of the prequels. And as for Finn, he had a great arc. Starts as a mindless automaton and then becomes an individual who thinks for himself.
>death-star 3, now bigger, stronger and as flawed as the first 2
I'll give you that one
>also manned by space nazis
They were ALWAYS space nazis you fucking idiot. Look at their fucking helmets in A New Hope. It's not even subtle.
>if you take out Han Solo all the characters are bland and forgettable
False, old fogey Han was actually kind of the bland one by comparison
>that its not forgettable because you fucking hate him with passion for being a beta kid instead of the heir of Darth Vader
Yeah, man. He should have been a badass who didn't say shit and took care of business. Like Boba Fett. Or Darth Maul. Because all villains should be the same. And they' more badass if they have no character to speak of other than one liners.
>the argument of the movie is the search of the Resistance of Luke, something that happends in the firts and last 5 minutes of the film
Do you not understand that they are setting things up for future films? Nice spelling by the way
>That fucking last scene, seriously JJ? You saw that and you tought it would be nice to have that scene as the last of your movie?
I'm not even sure what you're referring to here. Is your dick just so hard for more Luke that you just can't stand waiting? They didn't want to blow their whole wad in one go, dummy. That's how you get Batman V Superman.
>>70558571
What's it do?
>>70558578
1>4>2>5>3>6>7
Do you get my meaning yet?
>>70558591
>The only reason why you would think this is if you were predisposed against the movie because muh Jews
Can't argue with that
>>70558414
Right, and this is escapist fantasy. It shouldn't be like real life. Which was my whole point to begin with, you dullard.
>>70558605
>Do you get my meaning yet?
No? I don't know why you've decided to be so snarky.
2>3>5>6>7>1>4
>>70554239
5>4=7>6>3>1>2
>>70558635
If you aren't saying anything of substance you might as well not say anything at all.
high level /tv/ discourse:
anon 1
>I like star wars 5 best and 4 second best and 6 third best and 7 fourth best
anon 2
>same but I like 7 third best and 6 fourth best
Does something seem lacking here?
>>70558416
>This is too stupid to address
So you have no counter-argument. Gotcha.
>Qui-Gonn's midichlorian explanation is as much about his philosophy as biology
That is really seriously reaching.
>It's the sentiment.
The one that is completely different from the one you alleged?
>midichlorians don't count because various people kicked various asses
So the scene where they explain midichlorians is completely pointless then. Alright. Great editing, George.
>Yeah Daisy, keep your arm out, don't move, just keep staring at him, Mark, great stuff
Nitpicking of the highest order. If only you could direct that harsh lens of criticism at the prequel films.
>>70554239
4>5>6>7>3>2>1
4 is the best because it works as a great movie even if you don't take the rest of the series into account. 5 is a great movie but it ends on a cliffhanger and therefore doesn't really work on its own. I would have rated 6 higher than 5 if half the movie wasn't the ewok happy funtime hour because the rest of the movie outside that is really good and emotional.
All of the prequels have shit characters and writing but 3 has the best action sequences and 1 has the podracing shit which automatically makes it worse than the other 2 prequel movies.
7 is painfully average in every way.
>>70558590
Children are the only ones who understand the prequels? That's one way to put it.
>>70558672
>If you aren't saying anything of substance you might as well not say anything at all.
There are literally a dozen or more other people in this thread doing the exact same thing. Do you really expect every person to justify a slight difference in the ranking of something which is ultimately subjective?
5 >>> 4 >>> 7 > 3 >>> 1 >>>>>>>>>> 2
>>70558672
Yeah if people did that we'd miss all the sperglord rage that gets sprayed around like spittle does while they speak. Couldn't have that.
>>70558723
No. Read your post then my post, and if it doesn't click, then my theory stands strong.
>>70558605
Midichlorians enhance his connection to the force and allow him to develop far greater powers than any other Jedi of his age, and he started his training late. This is mentioned a number of times in dialogue, so it's not even subtext.
>>70558815
Right that's why he said YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER
>>70558696
>never mentioned or elaborated upon again
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE POINT OF BEN QUADRINAROS IF HE WASN'T IN 2 AND 3 FUCKING HELL LUCAS!!!!(*&@(*$&T$#@
>Qui-Gonn talking symbiotic philosophy is seriously reaching
Do you know what the chinese practice of 'life-energy cultivation is called?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong
You just got pottery'd
>the sentiment
You look down on people for something that isn't dumb at all because you take it as a truism because RedMemeMedia told you to. Midichlorians aren't dumb and you implied they were.
And do you really like the last shot of Force Awakens? It's fucking awful. Phantom Menace looks good. I bet you dislike Prometheus too you fucking fag.
>>70558726
I know everyone's doing it, you were just outed because you were the most recent one I saw.
>Do you really expect every person to justify a slight difference in the ranking of something which is ultimately subjective?
YES YES YES YES YES! WHAT THE FUCK ELSE IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD? WHAT THE FUCK ELSE IS THE POINT OF /tv/? WITHOUT OUR SPECIFIC THOUGHTS THAT LED US TO OUR CONCLUSIONS THIS THREAD WOULD BE A SERIES OF NUMBERS AND 'MEMES.'
LITERALLY ALL DISCUSSION IN THIS THREAD HAS BEEN PROMPTED BY SOMETHING I POSTED.
>>70554307
3's still pretty shit, just got some good scenes here and there with the emperor and the battle on mustafar (which goes on far too long if you ask me). 7's got problems but it's a much better movie, even if it doesn't top the original trilogy.
>>70558149
>Even if it was a good idea, it's never mentioned or elaborated upon again, which makes it pointless
I'm the guy who originally said that and I couldn't agree more, pretending midichlorians didn't exist is a major thing the other prequels got wrong but you know I think it was still a decent idea. After all jedis work with the force every day, they should know more about its mechanics than the average goon
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>>70558869
not him just want to add that, wow yes that last shot looks terrible, its even worse in motion.
>>70558591
>The only reason why you would think this is if you were predisposed against the movie because muh Jews
Top kek. Watch from 0:29 and tell me that poe had it hard in any of those 10 seconds while he destroys the entire Order fighter fleet by himself. WHOHOOOOOOOO THATS ONE HELL OF A PILOT (and if you disagree you are an antisemite)!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAt1xJcof1c
>They were ALWAYS space nazis you fucking idiot. Look at their fucking helmets in A New Hope. It's not even subtle.
Tarkin destroyed a fucking "civilian" planet, but at least he never made a speech copied from fucking hitler.
>False, old fogey Han was actually kind of the bland one by comparison
He is the only character that me or my friends liked. If I didnt lurk /tv/ that much I would not remember the names of Poe, Rey and Finn and neither would you. They were all bland and unidimensional (overpowered hero, orphan Mary Sue, repented bad guy)
>Yeah, man. He should have been a badass who didn't say shit and took care of business. Like Boba Fett. Or Darth Maul. Because all villains should be the same. And they' more badass if they have no character to speak of other than one liners.
He is the main bad guy, he should have taken the role of Darth Vader, not Fett or Maul. And even those secondary evil guys were better than him.
>Do you not understand that they are setting things up for future films? Nice spelling by the way
Nothing wrong with dumping completly the main argument for all the movie and the solving it by deus ex machina? No wonder why you like this movie.
>I'm not even sure what you're referring to here. Is your dick just so hard for more Luke that you just can't stand waiting? They didn't want to blow their whole wad in one go, dummy. That's how you get Batman V Superman.
2 minutes of rey with the extended hand, putting strange faces, and of bad shots in general with not a single word
Going the BvS way would have been bad, but this was not better mate.
>>70559017
You know if it weren't for that giant rock hogging all of my attention it probably wouldn't look too bad.
>>70558869
>WHAT THE FUCK ELSE IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD?
To give your rankings, read other people's ranking, and compare how your own matches up to others. You don't have to read or write entire explanations in order to make use of the thread. Consensus and comparison is valuable on its own.
>>70559041
Without context all you gain from the rankings is 'yes, somewhere in the world somebody thinks that.'
Surely you have enough brainpower to work out every possible sequence of preference on your own. If you just want to think about the numbers why do you need the input of other people.
>>70559026
>if you disagree you are an antisemite
Oscar Isaacs isn't fucking Jewish you goddamn fucking retard.
>>70558869
>WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE POINT OF BEN QUADRINAROS IF HE WASN'T IN 2 AND 3 FUCKING HELL LUCAS!!!!(*&@(*$&T$#@
Further evidence you have no counter-argument. Also further evidence that you're a massive sperg.
>Do you know what the chinese practice of 'life-energy cultivation is called?
No, and I don't give a shit either. If I have to do research to understand what the movie was about, it did not properly explore its themes. Also you're just finding reasons to justify shitty writing, which is probably why you think Prometheus is good.
>And do you really like the last shot of Force Awakens?
I never said that, good job moving goalposts. I thought it was awkward, sure. But who cares? That doesn't even compare to the cringe-a-minute awfulness of any of the three prequels. Practically every time a person speaks. Only an autistic fag like you would be like WELP, MOVIE RUINED or really even mention it as an important criticism.
>THIS THREAD WOULD BE A SERIES OF NUMBERS AND 'MEMES.'
If you think it's anymore than that, you're even stupider than I thought. Also, calm the fuck down.
>>70559107
see
>>70558591
>The only reason why you would think this is if you were predisposed against the movie because muh Jews
>muh Jews
>MUH JEWS!!!
I completly agree that the awfully bland fighter battles scenes have nothing to do with jews, but that guy mentioned muh jews as his only argument to defend them
>>70559078
If people are consistently placing certain films in certain positions of the rankings (e.g. the original trilogy consistently being placed above the prequels), then a consensus is being built. We're not discussing objective legal matters here, we're discussing subjective art based on abstract, undefined and unweighted criteria: consensus is the most reliable way of determining the truth when there are this many variables.
If you want to give a full and storied explanation as to why you have a particular ranking, go ahead, but reading and writing rankings are valuable whether an explanation is given or not due to consensus.
>>70559179
If you want a real answer to your midichlorians being pointless point, fine. It's development. You said it wasn't needed, what the fuck is needed in a movie? He took the idea further. Rather than just being magic in space the force is one with everything and being in tune with the force means being in tune with yourself and the universe. Was that hard?
And the Qigong thing doesn't make the movie better, I'm just pointing out that genuine thought went into this stuff. What Qui-Gonn says should be enough to infer his meaning. It's not complicated, or at least, I don't think it is.
>nice job moving goalposts
Where were they then?
>If you think it's anymore than that, you're even stupider than I thought
What's your post then, a meme or numbers?
>>70559240
>consensus
If you didn't already know that everybody sucks Empire's dick like they're poisoned and the antidote is in there you must be amazingly out of touch with movie fans.
>we're discussing subjective art based on abstract, undefined and unweighted criteria: consensus is the most reliable way of determining the truth when there are this many variables
Star Wars 7 has more fans than The Deer Hunter, therefore Star Wars 7 is a better movie than The Deer Hunter. Can't you see you're the one being overly objective about this? If you want to reach a real conclusion on a complicated issue you need some kind of discourse, you can't just quiz strangers on a binary statistic.
Consensus is always worthless.
>>70559026
>Top kek. Watch from 0:29
I'm not going to meticulously fret over minute details of the action scenes and watch segments of them repeatedly in slow motion because I'm not a loser. You have fun though. I enjoyed the action sequences in TFA. I'm sure I will enjoy them even more if I rewatch the film anytime soon because I will be aware I'm also upsetting you as I'm enjoying them.
>Tarkin destroyed a fucking "civilian" planet, but at least he never made a speech copied from fucking hitler.
Right, they walked, talked, looked, and behaved like Nazis, but at least they didn't have any big speeches that were reminiscent of any generic dictatorship speech about order and what not. Idiot.
>He is the only character that me or my friends liked
WELP I'M CONVINCED
>He is the main bad guy, he should have taken the role of Darth Vader
WRONG. This is why JJ knows better than you idiotic fans. I know I'll be called a shill or a kike lover or whatever but it's fucking true. Darth Vader is dead, the last thing this movie needed in addition to a Death Star clone was a fucking Darth Vader clone. It's fine if Kylo Ren didn't work for you but at least they TRIED SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
>Nothing wrong with dumping completly the main argument for all the movie and the solving it by deus ex machina? No wonder why you like this movie.
They didn't 'solve' it. It was left open for future installments, you unbelievable aspie faggot. I'm glad you're not in charge of any franchises.
>2 minutes of rey with the extended hand
It was maybe 30 seconds and I still don't see what the big fucking deal is. The final shots in Star Wars movies are frequently quite awkward. A few major characters just standing around, looking at something, saying nothing. 4, 5, 2, and 3 come to mind. Yet another minor quibble being inflated to gargantuan proportions by angry nerds.
>>70559233
>I completly agree that the awfully bland fighter battles scenes have nothing to do with jews
It might. It could be you went in looking to pick it apart for some other strange reason. People who defend the action in the prequels and shit on TFA make me fucking sick.
4>5>7>6>3>1>2
Sorry, I still think George is a hack and Disney made a far more we enjoyable film despite it copying 4's plot points.
Starkiller base is pretty lame though.
>>70559412
oh come on they tried to achieve completely different things, in the prequels every action scene was deeply influenced by "martial arts" and tried to be as spectacular as possible, in TFA they tried to make it realistic and gritty and it just didn't work
space fights look arr the same
>>70559432
This. It's not that 7 was a modern masterpiece, it was just that the bar was incredibly low.
>>70554239
What's to debate, you're right.
>>70559466
>in the prequels every action scene was deeply influenced by "martial arts" and tried to be as spectacular as possible
No, the fights in the original films were deeply influenced by martial arts. The fights in the prequels were influenced by wire fu and modern excess. TFA brought them back to what they originally were. Admittedly didn't bring much that was new to the table, but at least got the basics of a Star Wars battle sequence right.
>>70559466
I was comparing them to the original trilogy. I'm not sure why you would compare them to the prequels unless you were looking for what not to do.
>>70559517
that's why I added these things whose name I can't recall "", they were very campy and acrobatic and knowing lucas they were probably influenced by shitty chinese movies. The OT fights were based on kendo iirc, they were good but he tried to make more action-oriented movies with the prequels
You can't really compare TFA's fights to any other SW movie's imo, we see mostly inexperienced fighters and huge battles. Now that I think about it if we're talking about armies fighting each other on the battlefield TFA was probably the best star wars movie, the prequels were all objectively shit at it (episode 1 might be somewhat salvageable though) and the ones in the OT didn't feel that huge, even the endor battle
>>70559543
sorry mate I've barged in in the discussion and I didn't get that
>>70559375
>I'm not going to meticulously fret over minute details of the action scenes and watch segments of them repeatedly in slow motion because I'm not a loser.
you dont remember the "woohoooo thats one hell of a pilot" moment? It the favourite of the plebs and the most detested by anyone with a bit of taste. I mean, you blame Boba Fett for being "cool" but you are completly fine with Poe "one man navy" Dameron?
>Right, they walked, talked, looked, and behaved like Nazis, but at least they didn't have any big speeches that were reminiscent of any generic dictatorship speech about order and what not. Idiot.
You get it pleb. One thing is look like "nazis" because they stand in formation like any military does and other much diferent is to make speeches about taking the power from the subhumans. Pro tip, they are not the same thing. Idiot.
>WELP I'M CONVINCED
Contrarian JJ lover detected. Han was the best character of the film for 99.99% of the people. Not that it was dificult...
>WRONG. This is why JJ knows better than you idiotic fans. I know I'll be called a shill or a kike lover or whatever but it's fucking true. Darth Vader is dead, the last thing this movie needed in addition to a Death Star clone was a fucking Darth Vader clone. It's fine if Kylo Ren didn't work for you but at least they TRIED SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
>H-How dare you fans of the Star Wars movies want a main villian as complex and great as Darth Vader (even if giving him different motivationts and traits) instead of angry white teen school shoter #3563 with daddy issues
>They didn't 'solve' it. It was left open for future installments, you unbelievable aspie faggot. I'm glad you're not in charge of any franchises.
They did SOLVE it. They completed the puzzle and found Luke. They did it by R2-D2 waking up for no reason at all but that cool for you isnt it JJ?
Also the final shot of 4 was great, with the heroes getting condecorated with a great OST behind, you pleb.
Episode VII has literally one thing going for it, in fact, the entire sequel trilogy only has one thing going for it and that is that Daisy Ridley turned out to be an amazing goddess of a waifu on screen and in reality.
>>70559931
you absolutely, positively have to go back
>>>/reddit/
>>70559945
>thinking Episode VII was good
>implying you wouldn't
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>>70559931
It had a ton of beautiful shots actually. lots of em that were shown too fast though.
4>6>5>1>3>2
>Empire
>Good
It's boring shit.
>>70554239
3>2>1>6>5>4
Dunny why people like OT. It's just mary sue running around with incest sister.
>>70554239
I... I can't do it...
>>70554239
Holy shit. You got it EXACTLY right.
Call me Reddit and a cuck or whatever. Finally someone who fucking gets it.
I love you anon. That's all I have to say.
>>70559931
>Daisy Ridley turned out to be an amazing goddess of a waifu on screen and in reality.
pffft, you'll get over this flavor of the month soon, if you haven't already
2 is objectively the best one
4>5>6>3>2>1=TFA
>>70555573
Nope. I never thought of star wars as a "turn your brain off"movie. 7 made it that and you had a ton of people going it's not supposed to be smart it's Star Wars. Christ man how cancerous.
>>70561905
>see me meme ma', haha!
>>70554239
You literally couldn't be more wrong
4 > 5 > 6 > 1 > 2 >>>>>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7
>>70554239
The objectively correct answer is this:
4 > 1 > 5 > 2 > 6 > 3 > 7
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>>70562252
now that rating i can get behind
