>Hitler's origin story is degraded to that of a comic book villain
>Hitler is an insufferable autist with no redeeming features whatsoever
>literally who Ernst Hanfstaengel is essentially treated as Hitler's number two, despite having nowhere near as much importance in reality
>none of Hitler's henchmen are portrayed accurately, or even look like their real life counterparts
>Hitler's henchmen do virtually nothing, except for Roehm who is unrecognizable
>events happen in completely the wrong order
>Hitler's relationship with Raubal is completely inaccurate
>scratch that, EVERYFUCKINGTHING is completely fucking inaccurate, seemingly without reason since it would have been EASIER to follow reality a lot of the time
>there's no reason whatsoever why anyone would follow Hitler
>his speeches are garbage
>even O'Toole is fucking garbage
>all the Gerlich (reporter) scenes
How did they fuck this up so badly?
I still can't believe there are people who defend this
>>70469863
Don't forget the bit where they show him literally kicking a puppy
Got to say this piece of crap dented my respect for Robbie Carlyle a little
>titled RISE OF EVIL
>expecting anything other than leftist propaganda
I stopped watching when he started beating his dog. Hitler would never ever hurt a pupper.
This is pure propaganda.
>>70469944
This.
He was a vegetarian and loved animals.
>>70469863
I'd like to see Hitler do a Bob Ross-esque show for the early BBC, thus averting world war 2
>>70469906
Me too
Are we going to see a real unbiased bio pic/show about Hitler before we die?
>>70469863
shitler dindu nuthin
>>70469863
Did you watch the movie? Its literally nothing like you described, it was terrific, it just ended before things got good
>>70469863
is Max with Noah Taylor any good?
>>70469863
>>70470173
>unbiased
You mean favorable, you transparent moron?
>>70470389
Anything other than "HITLER WAS THE ULTIMATE EMBODIMENT OF PURE EVIL" is considered favorable to normies.
>>70470173
>>70470444
Downfall is surprisingly unbiased
>>70469863
>The rise of evil
Even though it's about Hitler, I can't take that name seriously. I'm surprised the box art is not Hitler eating babies with one hand and raping russians with the other. You know, to really send a message.
Hitler was an alright guy. Himmler and his inner circle were some maniacs, though.
>>70469906
>>70469944
>>70469982
Reminder that Hitler forced his dog to bite a cyanide capsule a few days before his death
Reminder that he ate eat frequently before 1929
>>70470389
you can make a movie about hitler that isn't "favorable" without telling outright fabrications about him. The dog beating made no fucking sense.
>>70470724
and?
>>70470724
>Hitler sadly makes pupper eat cyanide because he knows what the Commies will do if they find his dog.
Poor Hitler.
>>70470724
>stops his dog from getting raped to death
>bad
>>70470361
kek jewspotting
>>70470946
*upvotes*
>>70469941
Doing a movie on Hitler?
You can't actually do it any other way then as depiction of evil. Any other film would be shut down as a HATE CRIME.
Simply. To do any movie about an serial killer or other criminal, especially that of a infamous Hitler, who's known for bigotry is illegal in the same way as ISIS.
It doesn't matter who it is, promoting HATE CRIMES is inciting HATE CRIMES which is the only taboo in art and free speech.
He's a war criminal. You can't make a flatting film about hitler, osama, or hussien.
Sympathetic, realistic, pragmatic, but Hitler is literally a meme to it self, with enemies that have killed people for doing anything related to him.
Israel isn't one of the most advanced armies and spec ops for NOTHING. Those bitches hunt down Nazis.
>>70470481
I was surprised honestly. They still shoehorned a few cuck themes but that was really several orders of magnitude lower than usual.
I guess the fact it was about Germany's defeat may have puzzled the yid producers. A similar movie about the year 1934 wouldn't get the greenlight.
>>70471051
What are you even trying to say you twit
>>70470444
>>70470762
a favorable movie would be considered a hate crime.
>inb4 "muh jewish sympathizers"
He orchestrated WW2, one of the biggest wars in the world ending with nuclear weapons first and only times used.
Not a small war about human rights...
He caused it
>inb4 "The black hand started it"
He was looking to start a war.
>>70471095
FAVORABLE FILM ABOUT HITLER IS A HATE CRIME.
IT'S ILLEGAL ON A CONSTITUTIONAL LEVEL.
IT WOULD NOT BE HARD FOR ALMOST ANY GOVERNMENT IN THE WORLD TO SHUT DOWN PRODUCTION, LET ALONE DISTRIBUTION, LET ALONE PUBLICATION OF ANY FILM THAT WAS FAVORABLE TO ADOLF HITLER.
Downfall did it right, but if you had any understanding of Entertainment Law, you'll know it's a fine line to make an accurate depiction of Hitler.
>>70471203
It doesn't need to be overtly favorable, just balanced. Of course even that would be a hatecrime to the normies who have spent their entire lives being brainwashed on how Hitler is the most evil man of all time.
>>70471203
This desu
They should just dispense with any notion of showing as either a 'dindu nuffin' or 'liderally hidler ;_;'
They should just make a film set between 1936 - 1938, showing him as the political genius that he was and as a straight boss, not condoning his actions but at the same time, not trying to understate how fucking impressive his achievements were.
>>70471051
Scorsese makes flattering movies about criminals all the time.
>Hitler's origin story is degraded to that of a comic book villain
HE WAS A SHRIEKING LUNATIC MADMAN WHO WANTED TO CONQUER THE WORLD AND MURDER BILLIONS OF PEOPLE
END OF STORY.
STOP ASKING QUESTIONS YOU RACIST.
>>70471379
Seriously shut the fuck up
You're preaching to the choir here mate
>>70471077
Out of interest what would you class as 'cuck themes'?
>>70469863
>Hitler is an insufferable autist with no redeeming features whatsoever
name 1 redeeming feature?I don't hate nazis but hitler comes of as a faggot even in mein kampf and germanny has failed so many times that one has to wonder about their place in he racial hierarchy
>>70469906
Look Who's Back had him shooting a dog
>>70470724
it had to be done, who knows what secrets the dog could have told the allies
He is a big guy
>>70470607
hittler was a faggot, inner circle had some madmen but they got shit done.I always disliked hitlers assertion that the dreamer of the world concept is as or more important than people who make it into reality.any fag can picture a rock being lifted but only a true hero of the people can conceive a pulley system or counterweights
>>70471051
What if it was an HBO show and had many POVs with hitler being only one of the many.
>>70472136
He could be charming on an interpersonal level if he wanted to be. Most of his secretaries remembered him as a kindly old man even I spite of the atrocities he was ordering in the east.
Also, a man capable of going from sleeping on a park bench to master of almost all of Europe - even if for a short time - is a political mastermind, no fucking questions asked.
In the series, they could have at least gotten his speeches spot on, but they fucked that up as well, either because of Carlyle, the producers, or more like my a mixture of both.
Also, keep in mind that Germany has always been surrounded by enemies (which certainly played into Hitler's joo paranoia) and that they were fighting against virtually the entire fucking world. They did pretty well considering.
>>70469863
That was footage for The Greatest Story Never Told and for high school use only.
>>70471095
That no country values fee speech to the same level as the USA, in euroland they give jail for facebook posts
>>70472381
Hitler was an insufferable retard when it came to pretty much every intellectual consideration whatsoever
He should have stuck at what he was good at
>>70471259
actually all you need is a hollywood budget and some skill.If the remnant can not gather that much money from the whole world than the whole thing is dead anyway.make it and dump it on the internet, start a controversy and everyone will see it
>>70470849
A dutiful master does the needed thing. I've had many dogs and ended the suffering of some. Many farmers and hunters who love their pets do the same.
If you were miserable would you want a merciful death or prolonged agony with slow death?
At some point he has dinner, the scene feels out of the grand scheme of things, like an opportunity to have a scene that is not historically driven. And at this dinner, Hitler goes autistic talking to women about purging subhumans.
Literally one opportunity to have Hitler say something not obvious and he spergs out.
>>70471203
>literally the US Japan and Russia all committed way worse crimes
>>70471203
>He orchestrated WW2, one of the biggest wars in the world ending with nuclear weapons first and only times used.
He didn't orchestrate the Japanese offensives in Asia and the Pacific, That process was in motion for decades before Pearl Harbor and was almost completely a separate war.
>>70472665
Kek he actually did do this irl if I remember correctly
I'm sure he was a little more classy about it though
>>70472437
>Most of his secretaries remembered him as a kindly old man even I spite of the atrocities he was ordering in the east.
meh.
>
Also, a man capable of going from sleeping on a park bench to master of almost all of Europe - even if for a short time - is a political mastermind, no fucking questions asked
is he, or is he just the right man at the right time?stalin also had a crap life and while politics did their part the social climate being ripe played a big part.
>they were fighting against virtually the entire fucking world.
and that was because hitler acted like an autistic kid when it came to diplomacy.He also deluded himself into thinking people the British would side with him despite also having said that in its current state Germany had nothing to offer as an ally.not picking allies based on his fanboy lies could have helped, not being so blatant about his ambitions could have also helped.
>Hitler's joo paranoia
I suspect Hitlers main goal with the jews was to get their stuff.
>>70471203
>He orchestrated WW2, one of the biggest wars in the world ending with nuclear weapons first and only times used.
This is what happens when the eternal Anglos and the Jews ally in a super-propaganda movement. Churchill himself admitted he did everything he could to antagonize the Germans without even caring about Hitler's program. The allies repeatedly told German embassadors suing for peace as early as mid 1940 to fuck off, purely out of principle of total war. And it was the US that used nukes (and rightly so, did nothing wrong).
The (western) allies were less bad than Hitler but saying that Germans "caused" the war is on the same level as Germany's posters about "the Jew : he starts war, he fuels war".
>>70472665
Was replying to >>70472111
>>70472521
>He should have stuck at what he was good at
Which is?His paintings are ok but nothing above average.When reading mein kampf I was expecting to be swayed to his side by cleaver half truths and omissions but instead I found a petulant child insisting that he could have accomplished anything if he had only applied himself, he just did not feel like it.most omissions related to him having to cook sausages in the same pot that served as a chamber pot during his days hostel for the poor
>>70472601
You know that HATE CRIME laws would have any leak on the net shut down. It's how they're fighting ISIS using twitter and shit like that. NEo-Nazi are not considered the friendly Domestic Terrorists.
>>70472665
>>70472720
>>70472994
Ah ok I thought you were talking about the Rise of Evil
The Downfall scene isn't as bad as that one desu, it's only a few sentences if I remember, but yeah it felt hilariously out of place thematically
I just chalk it up to him having a complete mental breakdown
another misconception I had about hitler was that he started out as an ok chap but cracked under stress, turns out he was always an ass.
>>70472687
They were not the ones charged with the war crimes, and we're not talking about Yamato and Stalin, but Hitler. Hate speech is about intent, and since it can be argued by a sect of a religion that free speech defends that favorable movie about hitler is hate speech that's it.
How else you think america got evolution shutdown in schools. The bigger issue is about taking away the equality of religion in free speech. Either way, fuck Hitler. He was a terrible military leader. He did the same mistake as napoleon and had no order within his ranks.
It's hard to be favorable about a opportunistic autistic idiot, that was a vegetarian hate mongerer. At least churchill was badass enough to survive imprisonment and didn't rule by inciting hate. He had the dignity to be a gentleman. Even roosevelt is the reason why Germany and Japan are doing great now.
But this is above a lot of peoples heads, and most people will think I am SJW cuck that is just spouting stuff I saw on some YouTube video and not researched years ago on my own volition.
I don't care either way, I am an olderfag then anyone else here. I'll go back to DIGG now.
>>70473188
Yeah, I mean how do you go from failed artist to genocidal leader. He was known for passionate speeches. Not intellectual movements. It was emotional, not knowledgeable. He was an artist, in a crude form, but nothing like a leader should be. Just look at the shambles he let his military be in.
>>70473118
To put it bluntly, dominating others.
Certainly not a talent that non-sociopaths would be proud of, but clearly that didn't stop him
And yeah his paintings are completely unremarkable
>>70473354
>He did the same mistake as napoleon
Only because of Italian stupidity pushing the start of the campaign forward
>and had no order within his ranks.
What
>>70473188
Lmao he was a bully in elementary school as well.
He was never an 'ok chap', not even nazi apologists believe this.
>>70472665
his romantic life was always shit
>>70471287
don't be problematic, anon http://previously.tv/the-strain/that-nazi-thing-was-over-the-line-even-for-a-nazi-thing/
>>70472994
>The (western) allies were less bad
even if that had not been the case the victor need not justify himself nor the steel resolve needed to come on top
>>70469863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBr0sfFLoh0
enjoy. its actually good.
>>70473522
Yeah, he had the worest military hierarchy in major military history.
>>70473842
noice and the android from alien as the propagandist... seems cool. thanks. i still hate nazis, but it's still a very interesting movement. if a good movie on hitler hasn't been done yet do not expect one to come up ANY time in the future, you're better off finding a good movie on sesame street.
>>70472994
>Hitler's program. The allies repeatedly told German embassadors suing for peace as early as mid 1940 to fuck off, purely out of principle of total war.
I'm sure he was totally going to back out of Poland, France, Norway, Belgium, Luxemburg, Czech Republic, it's those damned Allies that made him fight to the end!
>The (western) allies were less bad than Hitler but saying that Germans "caused" the war is on the same level as Germany's posters about "the Jew : he starts war, he fuels war".
Are you fucking retarded? Germany worked together with the USSR to divide the Europe in half since the late 30's. German economy was focused on war even before that. They fired the first fucking shot with a ready plan to attack the Western Europe. Besides, how can you say he was being antagonised when he made a claim on three foreign coutries and broke every treaty he signed when it suited him?
>>70469941
Hitler was a Leftist socialist anon. So was Mussolini. They were both riding the wave of the lower class worker and farmer peoples revolutions that were sweeping through Europe at the time.
>>70473354
>Hate speech is about intent
intent is a point of view. who is Yamato, do you mean all of japan?
>The bigger issue is about taking away the equality of religion in free speech.
don't they teach the controversy?
fun fact:Roosevelt died never knowing if the war would be won.
>>70473985
There's no way to explain the historical actions of Hitler, there's more propaganda FOR him then against him in America. This why hate crime law exists, and is so hard to describe. Hitler's purity of race is what makes him more evil then Russia and Japan. It's a crime against humanity, like that means anything to the ignorant.
>>70473885
Go on?
>>70474121
damn they really did a number on you at your "university" didnt they
>>70474075
>Hitler was a Leftist socialist
Kill yourself
>>70470724
His dog would have been killed nonethless after Russians raided their base, or taken to the test-labs anyway.
Hitler loved animals, he made Blondie swallow that pill because it was a less painful way to die than what would have awaited her.
>>70473435
he was full of hate even in his artist days.only thing he was right about was dangers of Marxism.
>emotional
emotions can give you a boost but no amount of "will" will counter being out gunned.The fact that he did not know much about anything also lead to cronyism with him making his teacher into a minister of finance ,etc.making up 500 fake members may look good on paper but it won't help you during the real fight.
What I wonder about is who actually made the NSDAP, who was that unknown guy hitler jacked it from.
>>70474081
because the Aryan Race or whatever, is well known ideal. Intent can only be proven with evidence, and isn't just implied. each accusation of Hate Crimes is treated on case-by-case basis, and there is no such thing as precedent.
Hirohito, I meant sorry. I forget where I got Yamato from.
Roosevelt's death can be seen as the biggest tragedy to happen to USA, and maybe even teh keystone to it's terrible state of affairs to this day. The prosperity of Germany and Japan was his intent for USA as well, but got corrupted and shut down by corporate greed.
It's sad, but a stronger working class is proof of a stronger society. Maybe it only works on smaller scale like Germany or Japan.
>>70474206
He was anon, you just have a poorly conceived understanding of political ideology, especially mid 20th century political ideology. He brought about a people's revolution in Germany centered around socialist reform. Mussolini was also a fervent and outspoken socialist his entire life.
>>70469863
>>70473442
>dominating others.
That makes him too much like SJW
>>70474183
I went to music school for a year, that was taught by member sin teh industry, and no actual professors.
I enjoy military history, and entertainment law. Both of which applies to movies about hitler and the controversy that surrounds it.
In Canada. So cuck me with your best shot. I don't really care, I just don't like bullies. Churchill was better leader.
Want proof?
Who won?
>>70473580
he outlines how he took over the school, look at that smug face. stalin had the same thing in that he could not tolerate anyone other than himself being in charge even in a school clique
>>70474300
He learned secret Aryan Vril channeling techniques and was able to weave a collectivist zeitgeist into the minds of the German people
>>70474300
Some people even say hitler was killed off and a double of him took place for the later part of the war. when is was seen as inevitable. this is why they never wanted anyone to recover his corpse.
>>70469863
I remember in History we had an entire unit dedicated to Hitler and his life. This is the movie that we watched in class.
I mean I can't complain really, it killed about three lessons worth of time.
>>70472994
>suing for peace
that worked out so well the first time.
>>70469863
He's not really Hitler. He's Dr. Nicholas Rush in an alternate timeline.
>>70474121
How about we put the fucking linguistics/political ideologies aside and focus on the millions of people that died as a result of his actions? The decline of Europe as a superpower? Is that proof enough of his villainy?
I'm all in favour of discarding the stupid "Hitler was a madman!" if only because it diminishes his evil - there is more to learn if we rationally analyse the situation in Europe of that time but you have to try and actually debunk the points I make.
>>70474351
Sociopaths are just like anyone else. They can be Ted Bundy or Head of Surgery. zoey of GamersGate or Bill Gates.
>>70474351
Hitler was the definitive SJW.
>calling out the flaws in society
>blaming them on a convenient scapegoat
>fighting to destroy that scapegoat
>waging war to spread his ideology worldwide
The only difference is that people actually listened to him.
>>70474552
You blame Hitler for literally everything that happened as a result of WW2?
>>70474121
>Hitler's purity of race is what makes him more evil then Russia and Japan
eugenics was big before hitler jumped on it. also while it was never officially announced I don't think USSR was fighting for the niggers of the world.
>crime against humanity
how many allies got punished for theirs crimes?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II
armenian genocide and many other such events prove that if you win in the end than you can more or less get out of it unharmed
>>70474425
I've never actually read it desu but I wouldn't be surprised if he was exaggerating or outright bullshiting about a lot of that stuff.
He doesn't seem so alpha here, for example.
>>70474317
would a socialist be so pro military?
>>70474552
"Hitler did nothing wrong" was just a shock value meme that some people think is true. That's the level of idiocy. Some people find it funny, the shock value like Cleese in Faulty Towers. Some people ACTUALLY see him as a genuine genius!
The proof is, he was disorganized. He wanted to twist science to his favour. The USA took his scientists and went to the moon.
He was a shrewd businessman and politician, he was the center of the start of propaganda as we know it. Anything else is up to debate, asides from him thinking genetics dictated better people. How that had to do with Judaism the religion, is even farther fetched.
>>70474487
its more likely that he did not want it to be desecrated.no one wants to end up like gaddafi.
>>70474475
more like poverty and stagnation made people go "fuck it"
>>70474569
Funny thing is, Hitler wasn't really a 'sociopath' as we understand them in modern times.
By all accounts he had a genuine and bizarrely overpowering love for his mother, which a true sociopath simply would not be capable of.
Goering actually fits the diagnosis of ASPD far better than Hitler. Adi was just a narcissist.
>>70474650
He made a battlefield out of Europe. He contributed to its economical decline, fucked up the demographics for almost two decades. He let communists take over Eastern Europe, something that YOU should've found detestable as all the concessions made in favour of pre-WWII Germany were made with the goal of turning it into a bulwark against communism.
I'm getting tired of you ignoring everything I write in favour of focusing on small details that you hope to twist against me. Are you going to address the other points I made?
>not muh hitler
>tfw despise every aspect of National Socialism
>almost as much as this propaganda flick and what it implies
>>70474673
Might not be fighting for the niggers of the world, but that still doesn't imply he was fighting AGAINST THEM, like the Nazi party.
Hitler was going to destroy almost all the art in europe if he lost. That's a bigger crime then gassing jews, IMHO.
as an admirer of arts.
but yeah, when it comes to war you can justify the means by the end. If you lose then you'll pay. But frankly, Hitler picked a fight with the world and lost. He didn't do it by making as many allies as you'd think, as much as annexed and forced labour, which is some how defendable?
It's not like UK constricted Canada into the war,and forced USA into manufacturing bombs, and took over france to fight or else.
>>70474311
>Yamato
Yamatai means land of yamato, its one of the names of japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Japan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamatai
>Hirohito
Hirohito like most emperors of japan was a puppet so its hard to blame him for anything.
>Aryan Race
what does that have to do with anything? KKK is also well known but loophole was found in the law since it assumed that one would only ever burn a cross to instill fear.same thinking could be applied to other views
>>70474785
Who would desecrate him? fucking Wilhelm II lived out his life in the netherlands till 1941. There was something else being hidden.
>>70474317
you're retarded
>>70474795
Maybe, but he always stuck up for his dumbass brother who kept getting arrested for resistance against the state.
>>70474397
>Want proof?
>Who won?
Stalin must have been a godly strategist
>film about hitler
>obviously gonna be propaganda
durr anon, history is written by the victor.
TGSNT is on youtube though
>>70474795
Sociopaths do make OVERPOWERING and BIZARRELY strong attachments, and to their mothers. Ed Gein for example that was the inspiration for Psycho. It's more of a fetishism.
It's not like love like we have. Sociopaths are not that different then us, they just think different. They can still love and cry exactly like us if they need too. They can just replace the feelings if need be too. It's how powerful people get through the day, when the stress starts to get them. How do you think doctors that do surgery for 18 hours straight to save a child, and have to make a decision to save it's life over the mothers live with themselves.
It's that same thing. Detachment. It's harsh, but it can also be used by a killer to feel no remorse over someone because of some bigotry. Eventually it becomes a lifestyle.
>>70474912
>he was bad because he lost: the post
>>70474698
If I recall correctly he was not at first, it all changed when he got into a big fight.Who knows, since his idea of ideal kid was someone who only goes to school and workouts I would not be surprised to find he did not get out much during his early years.He did not do well in school, saying they were not teaching him in the right way, the right stuff and teacher was a yellow belly coward.Basically he was everything you may hate about modern youth
>>70475019
>Hitler was going to destroy almost all the art in europe if he lost. That's a bigger crime then gassing jews, IMHO.
that's a pretty monstrous opinion
>>70474711
I don't know, was the USSR pro military?
>>70469863
>Hitler is an insufferable autist with no redeeming features whatsoever
That's historically accurate.
>>70475095
That's the difference of a hate crime. Killing a nigger isn't a hate crime unless you say "i hate niggers" or they can prove you're part of a group like the "kkk" or "nazi party" or whatever group that has affiliations to something like that.
you can easily denounce it at the tribunal to get around hate crimes, but when it comes to art it stands for itself and isn't as easily swayed by opinion of the creators of the art.
It's not horribly simple to describe, but hitler's "MASTER RACE" is well documented basis of the Nazi party. It was fundamental from near the start. It's what makes Hitler EVIL. Hate mongering. Not just militaristic, but literally hate mongering.
>>70475360
Yes. In 1936 the USSR had more tanks, planes, weapons and troops than all other nations combined.
>>70475156
No doubt. That man was even going to take out UK if USA didn't join. His troops were feared. Also look at the cold war if you want to see his legacy. That would be a bigger one then Hitler's Germany.
>>70475300
That's not what I said but I'll play along, if only to see what kind of a retard you can make out of yourself next time.
I suppose it's the entire Europe's fault for fighting against Hitler instead of giving into his demands? Or do you think that, if he had miraculously won, all the millions of people killed and billions worth of infrastructure would've been made insignificant?
>>70475276
You're a butthurt socio, aren't you?
Literally none of this is true. I'm talking about actual sociopaths, not normies who can act like sociopaths if they need (or sadly, want) to, i.e. Hitler. There IS actually a difference.
>>70474552
>millions of people that died as a result of his actions
how many people died during the spread of colonialism?Empires are not made by talking.Even the method can be ignored with passage of time.
>The decline of Europe as a superpower
There was no EU, they where at each other's throats and it was going to blow eventually.
>Is that proof enough of his villainy?
While I think this is bullshit in Chinese morality there is no good and evil, only moral relativism thus a man torturing or raping someone to help the one they care about can be seen as righteous.1.3 billion people live this way.
>>70474317
>"you just have a poorly conceived understanding of political ideology"
From the guy who said that Hitler was a leftist
Having "socialist" in your party's name doesnt make you one, especially when your ideology comes from the volkisch movement and the stalhelm-like groups that emerged after the war
>>70474912
yes he single handily did all that.Im sure he personally bankrupted my grandfather and thus is to blame for my current poverty
>>70475336
Art is more delicate then the human body. It's a preservation of a human spirit. It's like killing an immortal child. You can't even really compreihend the implications of what might have happened if the art was destroyed, what type of world we might live in. Humans bounce back, art is gone. forever.
There is billions of human lives you have forgotten about if you ever knew they existed. There is art that is older then anyone you've ever known.
>You're monstrous for not loving over a Billion people that you never met.
>>70475376
Fair point if we're talking < 1914, but the war made him slightly more bearable. Afterwards, he may have been more resentful, but he knew how to talk to charm people if it was really necessary.
>>70475112
>Who would desecrate him?
>>70475376
But yet 100% true. Everyone around him hated him, he was always ranting and raving about vegetarianism, and how kids need to go for walks, and the jews were destroying german culture, and how we should just enslave people to work for us, when all they wanted to do was live peacefully.
When all they wanted to do was live peacefully.
No one can say they wanted to be in a living hell.
>>70474795
>By all accounts he had a genuine and bizarrely overpowering love for his mother
citation needed. they said the same about his love for Geli Raubal, some even claim he shot her so no other man could have her.
>>70470173
Probably 2045, 100 years after the war when everyone involved in it has died.
>>70475607
you're talking about the murder of millions for literally no reason, that's not just a normal part of life
additionally putting the preservation of art as more important than the preservation of human life is pretty easy when its not your life or the life or anyone you care about
>>70475523
If you're so supportive of colonialism, do learn that the decline of British empire was a direct result of WWII. EU is a shadow of the former Europe's glory, especially since WWII led to USA taking over the spot as the one and only superpower.
Besides, colonialism is an awful example as it is immoral and ineffective on the global scale.
>>70475578
Yes, he can be made personally responsible for that as he drew Europe into a war and destroyed the production and infrastructure of many European countries. Are you a fucking retard to not understand that?
>>70475488
True fact: Acting like a sociopath isn't much different. The human mind cannot tell the difference between reality and imagination. This is why you get scared of nightmares. This is how visualization works for practicing sports.
You can make fun of "hurr durr it's not real unless it's real" but that's how it becomes real. At some point, they pretend it's not real. That's the dissociation.
No one grows up to be a sociopath, but are taught it somehow in life. If either by abusive parents or mental illness of the parents. There's little to indicate that babies are not all born empathetic, since that is the one thing that babies DO! That's how they learn language.
>er glaubt dem elektrischen Juden
>>70475681
>When all they wanted to do was live peacefully.
If they'd done this, their shitty country would have been raped by the Soviets even more brutally when Stalin had advanced through the east.
Don't get me wrong; Hitler utterly failed in his aims. But at least he tried.
If I recall correctly doesn't he manipulate his way into getting the iron cross in this movie? Despite that clearly not being the case in reality.
>>70475417
>art it stands for itself
art is very subjective unless its a work of "realism", especially today when art can be interpreted as having the opposite meaning or being ironic
>prove you're part of a group like the "kkk" or "nazi party"
all that group would need to do is not have it officially written in that they hate niggers.There are many groups today that claim moral highground and lofty ideas but their actions don't match their words.
> "MASTER RACE" is well documented basis of the Nazi party. It was fundamental from near the start. It's what makes Hitler EVIL. Hate mongering. Not just militaristic, but literally hate mongering.
but realistically was not that at the heart of all nationalism?
>>70475966
>If they'd done this, their shitty country would have been raped by the Soviets even more brutally when Stalin had advanced through the east.
Thanks for the divination madame Blatlavsky. I wonder why they didn't ravage Europe after WW1?
>>70475656
What indications did they have of that? Did he mail letters to UK and USA saying how he was gonna but rape their corpses? Why wouldn't they publish that if it were true?
They didn't want anyone to know Hitler was alive and well, so they destroyed the proof that their beloved dictator escaped.
No proof of it, just a thought.
I also find it weird we never saw Osama's body even though we saw Saddam's get his teeth checked on TV.
They just buried him at sea... nothing else to it.
>>70475990
he rode a bike or something to deliver a message
>>70475966
>If they'd done this, their shitty country would have been raped by the Soviets even more brutally when Stalin had advanced through the east.
we can't possibly know this for certain, remember when Russia went to war with poland in 1919 and lost?
>>70469863
>Hitler is an insufferable autist with no redeeming features whatsoever
Just like the real Hitler then.
>>70475836
Death of art is like killing too, but they can't escape, or fight back, or survive on their own. It's sad in it's own way. There was a lot of it burned and lost forever. No one appreciates the lost art of the world. But yet, here we are on /tv/ talking about art.
What if all copies of your favorite movies were gone forever. Could never watch them again. Would you give your life to save them.
NO, because it's just Ant-Man :D
>>70469863
>The Rise of Evil
oh yeah this has accuracy written all over it
>>70475940
>dodged the question completely
Yup, you're a socio.
>True fact:
Sure.
>Acting like a sociopath isn't much different. The human mind cannot tell the difference between reality and imagination. This is why you get scared of nightmares. This is how visualization works for practicing sports.
This shit isn't even relevant.
>You can make fun of "hurr durr it's not real unless it's real" but that's how it becomes real. At some point, they pretend it's not real. That's the dissociation.
This is somewhat more reasonable, but there have been actual scan of sociopath's brains that show they process emotions differently from us. If they wanted a full spectrum of 'normal' emotions, they literally couldn't develop them no matter how hard they tried.
These are the kind of people I'm talking about, and sadly they are 'different.' I wish this wasn't the case, because it makes the condition all but impossible to cure at present, but this is the truth.
Regarding your last sentence, there are actually several cases of babies who were naturally sociopathic. Sometimes, it's genetic.
>>70476019
Probably because they were experiencing a civil war, a revolution and had just been defeated militarily, you utter imbecile?
>>70475966
Who knows. All we know is that Germany attacked Austria because of the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
Russia was waiting, and if you look at the Cold War, that might have been all that ever happened, because SOME people in Russia wanted peace.
They didn't have an overly hate mongering leader like Hitler, that was pushing on an EMOTIONAL front to escalate.
Escalation is just emotional response.
>>70475681
>how we should just enslave people to work for us
and he did. state of qatar keeps slaves even today, they even built an anti slavery museum with slave labor
>when all they wanted to do was live peacefull
kek most of the people around him were near destitute but being in the party got them rich.
>>70475816
That did not happen with native Americans or US slavery
>>70476172
I'm not trying to minimize the loss from destruction of art, but it can't be given a higher value than the loss of human life -- nothing can, and it concerns that your earlier post seemed to imply genocide is just one of those things that happens so who cares. Or as the japs would say, it can't be helped.
>>70475855
>ineffective
kek.
>>70476288
>Russia was waiting, and if you look at the Cold War, that might have been all that ever happened, because SOME people in Russia wanted peace.
I think that really had more to do with mutually assured destruction creating a new and unprecedented era in human history than peaceful factions within the soviet government.
I've always felt that if nuclear weapons had not been invented, and could never have been invented, world war 3 would have been inevitable.
>your tight-ass script about hitler stubbornly being escorted out of besieged berlin at the eleventh hour by a handful of ss veterans and a gaggle of hitler youth will never be made
>>70469906
Reminder that Carlyle plays Gabriel Belmont in Castlevania LoS.
>>70476066
>What indications did they have of that?
Was butt stabbing common around gaddafi, was making you look like a pathetic hobo common around Hussein?Is pissing on dead bodies common among soldiers in iraq?Be it middle ages or any other time period is never a good idea to put yourself at the mercy of your opponent
>>70476281
>defeated militarily
You wrote that yourself and still decided to post, you fucking cock jockey. Again, thanks for the divination, got anything meaningful to add this time?
>>70476172
if law texts did not get saved during the fall of constantinople who knows what world we would be living now.
>>70476015
>he master race (German: die Herrenrasse, das Herrenvolk (help. · info)) was a concept in Nazi ideology in which the Nordic or Aryan races, which were thought to predominate among Germans and other northern European peoples, were deemed the highest in an assumed racial hierarchy.
No. Nationalism believes your country is strong. Not you and other people that have the same ancestry, regardless of country.
>The Nazis declared that the Nordics (now referred to as the Germanic peoples), were the true Aryans (ethnically the closest descendants of the Proto-Indo-Europeans) because they were much less racially mixed with peoples who were "non-native" to the European continent, than other Indo-European peoples, such as the Slavic peoples, the Romanic peoples, and the Indo-Iranian peoples. Based on this claim that the Nordic peoples were superior to all other races, the Nazis believed that they were entitled to expand territorially.
All of that aside, it's the Untermenschen, that is the real kicker. There's no name for Nationalism against it's own people. That's not Nationalism. That's racism, i guess. Either way, it wasn't clearly defined because the MASTER RACE was guess at who was pure or not.
At least with USA niggers you could tell who was or wasn't black or white. But trying to split hairs between indo-european and not, is as dumb as guessing which leaves are perfectly symmetrical and not.
This follows the bloodlines of royalty, more then anything and that leads to inbreeding.
It's about on par with the pure breed of dogs. At best Master Race was about breeding humans like pets. At worse, it was an excuse to bully other people.
>>70474075
> Hurr durr there's socialist in the name so he was leftist
>>70471051
>>>/reddit/
>>70476488
But that's true you dumbfuck.
>>70476232
But then it's like saying brain damage can be learned. Which is odd, if not probable. I've heard of people becoming institutionally retarded.
>>70476430
There's no way this would turn out to be anything other than a comedy.
>>70476414
You know it's hard to tell, and since human evolution is tied with technological advancement it's almost to say, if it wasn't nuclear war it would have been something else like poisonous gases or cluster bombs from ICBM or both.
It's not just the nuclear war, but the fact that Russia even to this day holds posture and only acts in limited ways. Russia didn't advance the Iron Curtain, and it wasn't for fear of nuclear attack, since they could have responded too.
I think Russia has always been a more calculated miltary then given credit for. Hitler was an idiot for not making Russia an ally again. But he interfered with the USA/Russia Arms race, and lost. That's really how the war started.
>>70476468
Gaddafi was killed by his people, it was incited by a civil war, THAT would be understandable.
>>70476720
Based on what? The numbers seen in documents provided by Soviets themselves who exaggerated everything both to intimidate other countries and to impress their superiors? USSR has systematically been purging their military cadre thanks to Stalin's paranoia. Not only that, much of their technological advancement came from trading resources for blueprints with the Germany (which also trained their tank operators). All of that only happened only because USSR had access to resources that Germany was otherwise forbidden to import, that's why they made this deal in secret.
Once USSR got invaded it required a constant stream of supplies from the Allies. Without that it would've been an even bigger piece of trash and collapsed quickly. Who's the dumbfuck now, cretin?
>>70476583
>you and other people that have the same ancestry
but that is true in some cases.
>That's racism, i guess
I don't think stalin much cared for race of the people he sent to jail
>it was an excuse to bully other people
and to take their stuff
>>70476553
Some people even think that if the Library of Alexandria wasn't destroyed that humanity might be advanced centuries. That implies that knowledge can save more lives, as well. That who knows that art that was lost might have saved more lives then lost.
>>70476624
sure. I just visit 4chan since /x/ because 9gag wasn't invented yet. You came here for the spider-man meme.
>>70476988
there were more than 15 attempted assassination of hitler, what do you think such people would have done to his body to appease the invading force
>>70477030
Lmao.
Ok I know what happened here. I thought you were discussing Russia after the end of WW1, not WW2:
>>70476019
>>70477057
Nationalism doesn't include neighbouring counties. his was looking at hereditary stature like how royalty was done in ages of old. That is pre-nationalism thinking.
Stalin didn't give a fuck for anyone, his own family included, saying Stalin hated anyone specifically is false.
>>70477091
>That who knows that art that was lost might have saved more lives then lost.
maybe 2 leaders would have bonded over a nice looking painting thus avoided a war.stranger things have happened
>>70471328
>1936 - 1938,
>impressive
nice meme man
>>70477174
Well, I know that the UK would never have descrated him. USA might have taken some pictures with him, but RUSSIA, they would have strung him up from the tallest pole and stripped him nude, and who knows what else.
Still, it's not like we found evidence of Hitler. He wasn't as much of a idiot to die for the people. He was in there for power, not because he was a believer in some lofty ideals, like Democracy or Communism.
He was an opportunist. This is why people regarded Hitler as a businessman before the war. It's why USA was reluctant to fight, they liked doing business with Hitler. It was never about ideals, as much as it was about rebuilding the economy.
His propaganda machine was unparalleled at the time, so it's hard to know the facts, other then what we can figure out now. He was a master of misdirection. Germans didn't even know about the SS workings until after the war and USA found the records.
>>70477409
>I know that the UK would never have descrated him. USA might have taken some pictures with him
read some history.
>He wasn't as much of a idiot to die for the people.
he offed himself because there was no other way out that would fit his character.
>>70477409
>Germans didn't even know about the SS workings until after the war and USA found the records.
lies
>>70477244
And it's sad. Art doesn't create wars. People do. Art is like a child that needs us to protect it.
It might be horrible that I find art worth more then human life, but people are brutal and savage compared to the most shocking painting by the most depraved painter.
That movie The Monuments Men really hurt me to watch. It's just that art is a living memorandum to human life.
Hitler burned books as well as paintings. That's a monster. He treated human lives the same. So anyone that defends him, it's like... there should never be a movie depicting him as good, without it being burned into the nothing as well.
>>70477291
It certainly wasn't him at his 'best', but I'm thinking of points where he wasn't so overt about his brutality and methods. A lot of the nazis actually believed their own BS; if it was told from the perspective of the Germans, normies might give it the benefit of the doubt. It could be an emotional tale about the plights of the German minorities in the Sudetenland.
>>70476920
it's ocean's eleven meets midnight run, who stumble across the last detail at a some like it hot party
ya feelin me
>>70477571
Well this is just what my Grandma told me of her upbringing in Germany before the wall. Who knows. MAybe Germany knew that the SS was abducting it's people to kill them in the night and were okay with it, and not mistaking missing people for people fleeing a country in a time before/during a war/being no good jew/UK spy.
People are smart like that, even pre-WW2 propaganda people that didn't have an understanding about the lies in the media like the savvy people of modern times.
>>70476430
It's only because that was done so fluidly that it would be boring.
Seeing a plan work out perfectly to the letter without a hitch is a shitty movie.
You'll sooner see a movie about 9/11 being an inside job... oh wait we have.
>>70475855
>do learn that the decline of British empire was a direct result of WWII.
yeah you don't know what you're talking about, which makes this very embarrassing because you come across so confidently in your ignorance.
>>70477787
>Well this is just what my Grandma told me of her upbringing in Germany before the wall.
its very possible that she did not know while at least 1/4 of non SS society knew
>savvy people of modern times.
kek
>>70469863
I love how there's been like... five posts actually discussing the series?
Quality thread anyway though, desu
>>70478443
>implying anyone has seen it
>>70478570
It's shit.
http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/
Enjoy the truth
>>70479017
This is unironically the worst documentary I've ever seen.
It's even more biased than the docs that portray him as the Devil, just biased in the other direction.
>>70469906
I 'm sure Robbie Carlyle is very much concerned that a neo-nazi didn't like that movie. He is sitting down right now, writing a letter to his agent so they can figure out what to do. A first reply on 4chan? This could cripple his career.
>>70471051
>the only taboo in art and free speech.
it's not a taboo, it's essential
disagreement ocurs when people disagree over their common goal and ways to reach it.
When one's interests are against another's, that is not disagreement, that is conflict
Context is necessary.
When Hitler lived and rose to power there were no things like the geneva convention, civil rights and major world powers regularly committed atrocities with no shits given by anyone.
Freedom of press was barely a concept in anyone's mind and you could literally kill off millions in your colonies without anyone caring or even reporting it.
Racism was still the norm and apart from artists women had little to say in world affairs.
Napoleon, who is considered a much more noble historical figure steamrolled Europe and literally waged war for his entire life with no planned end to it just because he wanted to do so, yet he is not portrayed as a villain, even by countries he fought and subjugated.
Stalin, who arguably committed even more atrocities is still venerated in Russia and you can talk openly about how he was a great guy with no repercussions.
Makes you think.
ITT: despreate attempts at revisionism by /pol/tards who sweat over their keyboards
pitiful
hitler was always an evil, pathetic, little fucker, and germany always was a pathetic nation
>muh jews
>>70479680
And yet he conquered almost all of Europe.
I'm sure your own achievements, such as shitposting on an internet imageboard, are considerably more impressive though.
>>70479628
refute them
>>70479610
>you can talk openly about how Stalin was a great guy with no repercussions
why are nazi-faggots on 4chan so fucking delusional?
also
napoleon wanted to conquer europe for political reasons and pure ambition
hitler was literally filled with resentment for a particular group of people with no connection other than their ethnicity, he was the lowest of the low, using the common jew peasants as a scapegoat, and he murdered them in droves for no political gain
why are nazifags so fucking delusional? i dont understand
>>70479758
you can be powerful and pathetic at the same time
>>70477787
how old is your grandma you liar
>>70479610
>Makes you think.
sure it does...
>>70479841
you only have pathetic down
>>70477932
Right back at you, fuckface.
>>70479789
>using the common jew peasants as a scapegoat
They were fifth column subversives and Communist traitors like Rosa Luxemburg - either peddling their smut and usury on the streets of Berlin or actively trying to transform Germany into a Communist ghetto run by dreidel spinners.
>>70479758
>achievements
by these standards I am lesser than Hinesse Habre, Breyvik, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, Augusto Pinochet and Mitt Romney.
I am fine with that.
>>70479769
nah bro
I won't negotiate history with you. What happened, happened, bother to learn some.
>>70479970
translation: I have done nothing good with my life, I can't bring up one single achievement. but these people are evil and I am not
cool argument
>>70480055
it is
>>70479970
>by these standards I am lesser than Hinesse Habre, Breyvik, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, Augusto Pinochet and Mitt Romney.
Yes, you are.
>>70480038
you sound like you know your stuff
have you ever considered political autism.. I mean activism?
>>70470724
You do realize the Russians would've literally skinned it alive and paraded it around Berlin, right?
>>70470724
ate eat?
>>70480243
>you sound like you know your stuff
you 're damn right I do
>have you ever considered political autism.. I mean activism?
the question is, since you want achievements, have you?
>>70480243
>>70480218
>>70480346
meat you idiot
>>70471051
t. EU pro-censorship shill
>>70477666
If done objectively sure. Such things as all the killings of german socialdemocrats, checks and the puppeting of slovakia discounts him as a nationalist. Make people cheer for him a little bit, and then reveal that the sob stories of chech genocide of germans were false as well as the opression of slovaks
>>70479789
>napoleon wanted to conquer europe for political reasons and pure ambition
no he didn't you lying sack of filth
>>70480378
I designed and organised the building of a local park
I own a patent on a mechanism thats in use, its not a new thing it makes the existing one easier
you on the other hand think you know something wont explain and act smug
Alicia Florrick is so goddamn hot
>>70481072
>I designed and organised the building of a local park
>I own a patent on a mechanism thats in use, its not a new thing it makes the existing one easier
your mom must be so proud of you
>>70469863
Ok so this is a fucking longshot, but has anyone ever read 'Young Hitler' by Hant?
This seems like one of the few books that might actually tackle Hitler's early life relatively fairly, without either portraying him as Satan or a dindu nuffin'.
I'll probably ask this on /lit/ if I don't get an answer here.
>>70481264
a concept foreign to yours
>>70481408
what am I doing here, I better go to a rehab center and become a good person
>>70469863
Hitler was a great man aside from the killing the jews thing, which I would argue never happened but which isn't a bad thing to begin with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO6Zk5qkYcA
DAT PASSION
>>70481267
I read a little about young Hitler in the essay part of Karl Ove Knausgård's My Struggle book 6. Seems like he was a very sensitive and emotional person. Very idealistic and misunderstood by his father and other people close to him in his youth. I remember that part about him falling in love with this girl but only idealizing her from afar part well. I think if you can find a good book on his youth, it's worth reading. It's interesting, because he was a very kind person in the beginning.
>>70469863
>evil
Ummm reddit?
>>70469863
Of course it sucks, it's agenda-driven production by leftists instead of any passion to tell the truth or story
Protip you triggered nu-males who will bite my head off, I'm not implying that "the truth" is that I view hitler favorable, the truth I mean the objective truth which we know about hitler as a BIOPIC should be
OP is completely right. If Hitler were like how carlyle and the director's depicted Hitler, he'd have no followers
I'm not at all a neo Nazi and I think Hitler was a terrible human being.
BUT it pisses me off when normies think that he was the personification of evil with not even a tiny bit of kindness in him.
The reality is Hitler was probably an alright guy towards his friends and family. He probably made jokes, watched sports, listened to the radio, maybe watched movies (were films a big thing back then?) just like everyone else, except he was also a piece of shit who killed Jews and other minorities.
It's kinda like those black criminals who murdered someone but their moms go "he didn't do nuffin he was a good boy". It's just like that, everyone has good qualities but normies act like he's Satan, and I really think that line of reasoning is pretty dangerous. Because currently in the EU it's used to restrict free speech - i mean ban hate speech - because anyone who doesn't like immigrants must clearly be the personification of evil and doesn't deserve any rights.
>>70470724
>>70480276
>>70470881
>>70470849
Wrong. The main reason is that hitler wanted to assess the poisen pill. He had become paroniod it wouldnt work, and he lived in fear of it just incapitating him for Russian capture. He had an EXTREME fear of russian capture and or humilation. It's the same reason he didnt go out fighting with the troops, and why he wanted his body burned
Although I suppose he did realise blonde was dead one way or another
>>70482872
>he was a very kind person in the beginning
Go on?
>>70470173
It's literally illegal to portray Hitler or Nazi germany favorable in multiple countries.
So know, not until the jews lose their power(never)
>>70483367
True. If there were any objective way to measure "evilness" then Stalin was probably much more evil, it's just that the soviets didn't have an active racial cleansing and eugenics program like how Germany had, and it's why everyone sees Germany as being morally satan personified while Stalin and the soviets, they give a free pass.
That's not to say Stalin didn't have a sense of humor, knew pain for when his wife died, when his son died in the war etc, but as a government totaltarian leader, you only get one quality projected
You should really watch World War 2 Behind Closed Doors, it's a documentary with drama that really goes after Stalin for once
>>70483706
>that story about Stalin saving a calf from drowning, and then immediately breaking it's legs after for no reason
This guy would give Jared Leto a run for his money
>>70483706
>knew pain for when his wife died, when his son died in the war
His son was captured by the Germans who wanted to ransom him. Stalin ignored all offers until the latter died.
>>70483367
>and I really think that line of reasoning is pretty dangerous
oh really? so we should just keep distances and do nothing, because everyone was once a kid? Well my friend, as much as I want to upkeep that, the truth of the matter is many children lost their mothers, their fathers and their lives in WW2. So how does that weigh in in your reasoning?
>anyone who doesn't like immigrants must clearly be the personification of evil
they are. they are racists, nothing more to it. It's that simple. And they would like to have Hitler again in power. It's that simple. All those bomb attacks? Provocations by european secret services. And you useful idiots are lining up to do Merkel's and Hollande's bidding. Guess what; they don't give a fuck about you. It's not like they hate you, which would be better, it's the bitter truth that they don't even care about you. They don't care how you end up, in a hospital bed dying because you couldn't afford health care because of their measures, or if you end up escaping, then they will just focus on the big mass. They just don't care about you, you could as well not have been born at all.
But you still think that refugees are to blame. Somehow, people fleeing from their homes and from bombs falling over their heads, are responsible for a process that has been taking place for 40 years now.
But you don't think to blame the government (unless they don't kill refugees on sight) or your bosses (unless they hire refugees...for a wage smaller than yours...and probably more hours). Somehow you cannot take the red pill and see the fairy tale you 've been believing.
>>70484289
He didn't ignore it, he said it wouldn't be right to show favoritism to his son and not the other millions of prisoners that were captured during barbarossa.
He was a communist party leader after all and he did the right thing. To assume he's a psychopath who didn't care about his son is just a fallacy
>>70484289
if anything, that shows resilience.
You have such examples all over history
>>70484289
>>70484355
And btw, the Germans wanted to ransom him by trading Hitler's relative with stalin's son.
>>70471051
Guess you haven't seen Max. I guess it's not about hitler per se, but he's shown in a sympathetic light (movie is okay, not great from what i remember)
Jewish narrative. Almost all media out there about Hitler portrays him as an emotionless monster.
>>70484305
Yes, they're all sociopaths. We know.
>>70484355
>>70484371
I'd much rather subscribe to the notion he didn't care about his son at all, only using your explanation as an excuse. After all he indulged in plenty of abuse of power.
I do so not out of a desire to hate someone but just by taking into consideration his paranoid/ruthless personality. I honestly don't know about any of Stalin's acts of heroism - the man betrayed and terrorised almost everyone he knew.
>you will never see hitler paraded on red square.
FUCK
>>70484371
>>70484355
>>70484399
despite what we say here, honestly, I think it was soviet propaganda. I mean it's not impossible that such a "heroic act" could be propaganda, sepecially in times of war.
>>70469863
If you portray Hitler and Nazis as human beings instead of the personification of pure evil you're being anti-semetic.
>>70484619
This desu
Stalin was almost comical in how over the top his sadism was
See
>>70483853
>>70471051
Der Untergang actually portraits Hitler as a human instead of a comic book villain. And it wasnt shut down. What are you trying to prove?
>>70469863
with a subtitle: the rise of evil, you kinda know this is going to happen going in
We'll always have Der Untergang.
Did you enjoy this film, /tv/?
>>70485072
Easily the best Hitler film ever made.
Perfectly captures the utter bleakness of the final days.
>>70485072
Adolfkino
>>70485072
Best portrayal of Hitler since 1945
>>70485072
True Kinó.
>>70470173
Are we going to see a real unbiased bio pic/show about Stalin before we die?
>>70485711
I think realistic Stalin biopic would trigger a huge wave of butthurt in Russia..
>>70485711
An unbiased Stalin movie would portray him in an even worse light than most of the negative Hitler movies.
>>70485711
You mean one that illustrates the fact that he was just as much of a homicidal madman as any Nazi, but because he killed millions of people because of a political ideology instead of because of their race, no one seems to care.
>>70479418
Criticizing inaccuracies doesn't make someone a neo-nazi. Hitler may have been fucking evil but even I know he loved dogs.
>>70485711
It can be done, but it would have to show some horrifying stuff.
