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Since /a/ is hopeless. Can /tv/ explain to me what the actual
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Since /a/ is hopeless. Can /tv/ explain to me what the actual fuck was going on?
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>>70454362
have you seen the rest of the series?
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have you watched the series
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It's not even that complicated. They explain what's happening several times.
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>>70454414
>>70454417
Finished EoE and I don't understand a single thing. Why did Shinji strangle Asuka?
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>>70454362
Fuck off Hillary
Stop making Eva threads on /tv/ you fat cow
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>>70454362
Are you a pleb? If you can't understand something as simple as Evangelion you probably should just watch Marvel capeshit so you can stuff popcorn in your face while laughing at mindless quips.
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>>70454362
Hedgehog dilemma of what happens in the show and concludes in the movie.

Girl likes boy, she keeps giving him obvious advances but grows frustrated since boy is too fucking naive to notice. Thus she keeps getting hurt.
This could be solved if they had proper communication.

Boy likes girl but is too scared of getting rejected/getting hurt by her. To the point of perceiving her as a hate machine in his own mind – because of her frustrations that are unknown to him.
He is only capable of telling her how he feels and what he wants when she is incapable of saying no.
This could be solved if they had proper communication.

During Instrumentality fuck up, boy goes again to girl in desperation. The girl "how he perceives her on his mind" rejects him and hurts him as he expected her to do so. He explodes in frustration and strangles that which makes him weak and suffer.

Once the Instrumentality fuck up is finished. Boy sees the real girl on the beach and hurts her on impulse believing that the girl that he perceived on his mind during instrumentality is how the girl really is.
Girl on the beach reaches for his warmth – shows him kindness - despite being hurt by boy.
In this case plainly referencing the hedgehog dilemma in which hedgehog A gets close for warmth to hedgehog B, without giving a shit about being hurt. Thus ending the dilemma.

Boy feels the sincere kindness and touch that he had so longed and breaks into tears over girl. Thus confirming to the girl that boy reciprocates her feelings.

Girl says: disgusting which could mean:
She is disgusted that she loves a guy like him.
She was aware of what boy said and did during the hospital scene and insulted him as he had asked her and also because she feels repulsed that he jerked to her.

In the end they finally manage to communicate with each other and the walls of frustrations that where been built during the show are gone, leaving them with a very promising note.
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>>70454487
t-thanks
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>>70454362
>Since /a/ is hopeless.

kek. i spent about 20 mins there and never wasted my time again.
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>>70454605
almost as bad as /mu/.

almost.
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>>70454461

>Why did Shinji strangle Asuka?

To make sure she was real.
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>>70454487
its either this or shinji just confirming his reality, the world he choose to live in at the end, where he could get hurt but it was better than scaping for ever, and he breaks in tears when he sees that asuka doesnt reject him, maybe he felt like a huge asshole for letting instrumentality happen in the first place
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>>70454605

/a/ is fine, it's just not an entry level board like /tv/ so we don't humor dumb questions there.
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>>70454804
i hope you are being ironic pham
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The Rebuild movies are actually a direct continuation to EoE.
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>>70454852
>There's more
Fuck this shit i'm actually done with mindfuckeries.
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>>70454745
In his own autistic way
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>>70454804
To be honest /a/ is just bad for anime discussion. I assume this is because anime fans are terrible people. I know I am. I just hate everything and everyone thus I shitpost and laugh all day on 4chan because anime can rarely be discussed in anyway other than shitposting, it's usually too targeted to a certain fetish or just makes no logical sense that can be split and talked about and it shouldn't be. pic related, typical anime face I post while shitposting.
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>>70454461
Because Mr. Anno knew that him doing so would leave many idiots like you confused and guarantee his work be discussed well into the future. The act itself is meaningless.
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>>70454960
2deep4u
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>>70454777
Don't forget.. Evangelion its a story that repeats itself Evangelion its a story that repeats itself Evangelion its a story that repeats itself Evangelion its a story that repeats itself Evangelion its a story that repeats itself :')
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>>70454889
those movies are more pleb-tier, so if you want to get rid of mindfucks you should watch those, they re-tell the story of the series adding some new shit, either way, nothing is better than the original series+end of eva
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>>70454852
Yes, they're
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>>70454905
all my shitposting on /a/ is contained to Jojo threads.
I haven't really even watched any anime in a while I just like to shitpost
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Explanation video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho07Ag6lV9g
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>>70454362
>>70454487
So why is there a giant woman on the sky?
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That feel when you found 4chan in late 00's and they tricked you into watching anime, even though the only good shows are Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Berserk, and LoGH if you have autism. I feel violated.
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>>70455056
eva, flcl, lain and mushishi are good picks too m8
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>>70455049
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>>70455106
Eva is so overrated. Also there is that gory show with naked lolis that was huge back then but I can't remember the name.
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>>70455118
>everyone gets turned into Tang
What in the actual fuck? You stupid nerds actually watch this trash?
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>>70455203
higurashi?
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>>70455258
i think he got confused with elfen lied
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>>70454362
its a purposefully ambiguous
you should just think about what it means on your own
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>>70455206
2deep4u
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>>70455118
A GRAT MAN XDD
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>>70455289
that's it
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>>70454889
here
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TV ending was much simpler film was over the top
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>>70454362
For plot, which is actually less important to the film than it seems, read the Eva wiki.

For everything else that the movie and tv series are actually known for (character development, exploration of the human condition, being schway as fuck), try rewatching the series while incredibly depressed and preferably going through drug withdrawals at the same time. Watching it immediately after ending a horrifically fucked up relationship that went three years longer than it should have is also a good option, and will help you appreciate the true kino that is EoE.
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>>70455565
>Breaking-Bad-Nazi.png

why
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>>70454960
actually this
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>>70455604
Because I didn't rename the file ya dangus

>tfw one digit away from quints
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>>70454362
If you want to know what Anno was getting at rewatch episode 26 since it's about as candid as the man will ever get.

EoE is more of an experiment in how kino he could make a story about teenagers piloting bio-mechanical ultramen as a metaphor for his own personal experiences with depression.

If you want the actual plot that's not too hard. The whole series had been building up to instrumentality, or turning all of humanity into one consciousness. Humanity as a whole rather than human beings as islands. All the fighting was over how this would go down. SEELE, using the JSDF, wanted to control instrumentality as they saw human existence in its current state as a miserable mistake and hoped to transcend to a god-like state by directly controlling the process. Gendo wanted to control instrumentality as a means of reuniting with his sort-of-dead wife whose soul was inside Unit-01 all along. Rei and Kaworu were just tools needed to complete the process, and Gendo had all he needed to make it work when his tools turned on him. Rei decided that Gendo was kind of a selfish asshole so she left humanity's future in the hands of Shinji, who she considered kind and selfless. However since Shinji was so fucked up he decided that he was done with life and would rather reduce humanity to a sea of tang than keep going.

Then at the end he changes his mind and decides to stop being tang. Then Asuka does too. Then he chokes her because he has no idea what the fuck's going on or how he feels about anything. Then she touches his face and this small display of affection/intimacy/humanity is enough to completely ruin him so he starts sobbing like a bitch.
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>>70455815
>>70455815
why are Japs so bad at storytelling?
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>>70455863
2deep4u
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>>70455863
Anno likes to experiment, both technically and with storytelling. I like how oblique and stylish Eva gets. A straightforward delivery wouldn't have been half as interesting.
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Is the final part of rebuild out yet
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>>70455903
>13 hour story + movies to tell story
>still makes no sense
wow so deep
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>maybe 13 the first time I watched Evangelion
>when EoE finished, I just kind of got up from my computer and went and sat on the couch for a while
>not really thinking or feeling anything
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>>70456001
Makes sense to me, maybe you're just retarded. And there's no inherent skill in brevity, Ernest Hemmingway was a hack.
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>>70455383
>r/envagnelion
holy shit m8 at least crop that out
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>>70456043
Yea I'm sure 50 years from now schools will be assigning the Evangelion script over Old Man and the Sea.
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>>70456024
>going from seeing the first couple eps of Eva to EoE cuz my older sister was showing it off.

>finding it completely depressing but still somehow comforting.

>Never forgetting that initial flabbergasted feeling at the seemingly hopeless ending.
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>>70454487
so its basically that smiths song through a sci fi lens
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>>70456103
>analysing script in an audio-visual medium
Why would anybody do that. You can't appreciate 10/10 best girl character design in print. And do schools look at Old Man and the Sea?

>>70456125
I think of it as this song: https://youtu.be/6lazXg2pAXk
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>>70456104
>>70456024
watching the entire series then EoE for the first is an experience for real though

the misato scenes really get me to this day
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>>70456125
wich one?

also, thread's theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxZ01ncJ7qs
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>>70456173
I can whack off to Asuka and read Hemingway at the same time
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>>70456245
this is a gem too tbqh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGrYf8GHJgI
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>>70456245
girl afraid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=700I5J_305I
not so much now that i think about it but it's what came to mind immediately

>She says
>He never really looks at me
>I give him every opportunity
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>>70456173
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FLY ME TO THE MOON
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>>70456517
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>>70456535
bump
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>>70456557
>>>reddit
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>>70454487
This is a better explanation than you will ever get on /a/, where half the anons are shipping and the other half are engaging in headwank.
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>>70456530
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>>70456573
sup /a/.

This thread seems to be 2deep4u and you seem to be lost.

Luckily, a nice anon such as myself is willing to help you out!

>>>/a/
>>>/y/

Thanks and have a nice day!
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For some reason this thread is making me feel like I'm on opiates

Help. Post more EoE.
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>>70456740
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>>70454605
I hope you're not pretending /tv/ is any better
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>>70456740
not eoe but close enough
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>>70456787
>that massive grandfather clock arm building
Forgot about that but it's making me even more light headed

Maybe I should see a doctor

>bottom right
;_;
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>>70456814
This is such a nice cover but the reality is so fucking jarring

>GNR's massive staring eyes
>split face down the middle
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>>70454362
evangelion has to be the most overrated anime ever.
it's fucking garbage. zero deep.
ofc it would amaze the little minds of all the fucking weebs.
>muh religious imagery
>muh psychology
>muh depression
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>>70455203
Elfen Lied?
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>>70454487
>leaving them with a very promising note.
b-but what about the other people? are they still soup? can they choose to come back to being a human?
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>>70457007
But what is the most underrated anime ever? Your answer to this question is the key to everything.
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>>70457007
>>muh religious imagery
Anno said it's just there to look cool
>>muh psychology
Psychological anime best anime after SOL shit
>>muh depression
Drink bleach
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>>70457007
>being angry because you don't understand something

why don't you drop your ego and realize it's completely within reason to know things others don't while also not knowing things that others do.
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>>70457034
>are they still soup? can they choose to come back to being a human?

yes and yes
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>>70457034
The Rebuilds are sequels.
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>>70457050
Cowboy Bebop 2bh

perfect exhibit of show don't tell when it comes to storytelling
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>>70457168
what the hell? I thought the rebuilds were just retellings(aka cash grabs) of the original series?
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>>70454362
>Since /a/ is hopeless

Why don't retards like you read the archive or use google/bing/whatever?
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>>70457215
>Bebop
>underrated
I agree it's a fantastic expample of show don't tell and throwing out exposition in favor of episodic "Noir" storytelling, but it is not underrated

>>70457217
It's kinda both and up for you to decide really what they are
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>>70457217
they're actually interquel paraquels
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>>70457217
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

nobody knows and nobody will know until the fourth one comes out in 2025. The ending to the manga, which was kind of an expanded adaption to the series, hinted at a strong link between the lore of the series and some of the new stuff added in the rebuilds.

>>70457215
>Bebop
>Underrated
Wrong answer. The response we were looking for was Cream Lemon.

>>70457266
The archive is no fun. You can't shitpost in an archive.
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>>70457284
it's easily the best anime series

the fact that it's even in dispute lends to the underrated argument
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My problem with the series is that it spends too much energy on the psychology and philosophy and doesn't ever really flesh out the meat and potatoes sci-fi elements. I thought that the whole concept of these proto-god like beings scattered across the cosmos by some unknowably ancient alien race was really neat. The scope of it all and potential was awesome, but it's never explored and just sits in the trunk while we watch a story about an extremely whiny kid struggle with his place in the world while piloting a biomech.

It was just really underwhelming for me
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Seele finally have the conditions to conduct The Human Instrumentality Project after having Nerv finish the last Angel, but with Gendo having put instrumentality in his own hands unbeknownst to Seele and with the help of Kaji, using the soul and body of Lilith and the embryo of Adam, Seele use the JIDF to invade Nerv and create an instrumentality by their own design originally planned, to devolve humanity into a singular consciousness free from the human misery in contrast with Gendos plan to reunite with his wife, Yui.

Meanwhile Shinji having a breakdown feels guilty for what has happened to all the people he had grown to love. Asuka was hospitalised, Rei had a new clone, Kowaru betrayed his friendship and Shinji was forced to kill him. All he could do was hide. The JSDF begin their operation and invade the Geofront, killing most of the staff. Before they manage to find Shinji, Katsuragi saves him and convinces him to go to Unit 01 and fight. She gives him a kiss for confidence. Prior to this Asuka was put inside and Unit 02 and sent them to the bottom of the lake to hide. Meanwhile Gendo and the Rei clone are in the room where Lilith is kept, ready to execute his plans for Instrumentality, but is interrupted by Ritsuko threatening to murder him, but is killed in by Rei.

Gendo fuses his hand with the Adam embryo and attempts to fuse it with Rei being inhabited by the Soul of Lilith. Things were going according to his plan until Rei rejects Gendos wishes and instead takes control of it herself. She then fuses with the body of Lilith and creates an Rei-Adam-Lilith god like creature. Unit 01, along with Shinji, become the catalyst of the ritual in conducting the Project. Third Impact occurs and The Human Instrumentality Project is complete. All humans have invisible AT fields that separate us from other people. The Rei-Adam-Lilith hybrid uses an Anti-AT field to destroy our AT fields and create a singular entity free from the blights of existence.

Cont...
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>>70457342
It wasn't about the aliens and the protogods.

That would make for an interesting OVA though
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>>70457342
>doesn't ever really flesh out the meat and potatoes sci-fi elements

Because it's ultimately unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Why waste time on it? This is why plebs get angry about the TV finale and ignore the actual good aspects of it.
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So is this the kino of anime?
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>>70457517
No, that's Code Geass. Eva is capeshit tier.
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>>70457365
but why not exsplain the protogods atleast by the end aswell as tell his story, would that not make it better.
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>>70457649
>Code Gay-ass
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>>70457343
>Rei
>killing Rit-chan
Gendo shoots her
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>>70457517
Gainax are too mainstream. They're like Kubrick, sure they're as cool and technically competent as all the stupidly obscure names we like to jerk each other off over, but everyone knows them so there's no fun to it.

The kino of anime are a bunch of old experimental OVAs made in the 80s and early 90s that you've never heard of.
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>>70457649
lol code geass...k. Gasaraki is better
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>>70457007
2deep4u
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>>70457662
Because some things are better left well enough alone, anon. It helps maintain mystery and furthermore they really weren't a vital part of the story.
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>>70457662
no eva is literally a kids cartoon
lovecraft god nonsense not for them
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>>70457342
The plot was just a vehicle for the character arcs.
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>>70457677
>>70457698
Not him but Code Geass is comically great
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this
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>>70457766
Motherfucker, I was thinking of posting that to accompany my post.

Nice digits.
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Honestly, Cowboy Bebop is the only anime show that doesn't feel like it's episodic garbage. I thinkit was trying to be more. It really is a shame that it gets grouped in with the rest of this cancerous genre. If you're looking to get into anime it begins and ends with this show.
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>>70457766
>>70457803
Where can I watch this? And Dub or Sub? I haven't watched Anime in forever.
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>>70457835
Anime isn't a genre.
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>>70457897
Kissannime (probably), sub unless you like stilted acting
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>>70457897
There was a great youtube channel that had a whole load of old OVAs, including this one up to watch in decent quality but it's dead now.

https://bakabt.me/torrent/131632/bobby-ni-kubittake-bobbys-in-deep-xvid-toy-rc

Don't tell anybody.
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>>70457835

Spoken like a true pleb. Please stop making people hate on Bebop. It's not its fault people make inane comments connected to it.
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>>70457933
Say this on /a/ and you'll trigger the entire board lmao
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>>70457933
>>70457951
Thanks guys
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>>70457803
haha, well tbqh i watched it off a rec on tv that was probably you anyway

>>70457897
bakabt, only a janky laserdisc rip is available sadly
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>>70456024

I had watched Dragonball before on TV, but so had everyone else. I don't really count it as my first experience with anime and manga. My real first experience was when I picked up the Evangelion manga at a public library one bored summer as 14 or 15 year old kid. I took the first four volumes home and read them all in one setting. My teenage mind was utterly and completely blown. I just sat there afterwards. I became completely obsessed with the series. Soon afterwards I found out there was a TV show and from there I got into your standard teenage anime stuff like Naruto and Bleach.

Good times.
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>>70457994
What, recommending a streaming site? Some people don't have a terabyte HDD and others don't like torrenting. There's nothing wrong with streaming "muh quality" aside if you're autistic.

/a/ is a bunch of bored oldfags trolling newfags trolling newerfags, there's nothing to discuss that hasn't been discussed to death.
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>>70458070
Just use kissanime or torrent. /a/ is just being an elitist asshat
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>>70458027
Yeah, I post about it a lot here. It'd be a shame if people were to forget it.

>>70458070
>nothing wrong with streaming
delete this
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Now that you all get NGE it's time to graduate to the next level kino.
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>>70458070
just don't discuss any shows you watch on streaming sites with me. Its like have an opinion on a movie after reading the wiki page
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>>70457343
The choice was made Shinji, being the catalyst, and also because of Reis maternal instincts, which arouse out of contact with Unit 01s soul, I presume. Shinji chose this because of the current state he was in. Bad things were happening to him his whole life and it's been worse than ever lately. He chose ambivalence over misery. But while he was in this state of Instrumentality, Shinji begins to remember his life and things he has been through, the connections he had made, the times he felt something. He believed the current state was worse than being alone, worse than loss, worse than sadness, because it was just nothing. This part of EoE is largely projections of Anno's state of mind at the time, and an attempt to justify living over death. It is one of the greatest introspective moments in cinema history.

Shinji finally chooses to exist again and rejects instrumentality. The Rei-Adam-Lilith hybrid returns the souls of humanity back to Earth, then dies. Shinji and Asuka are among the ones to be reborn from the primordial LCL. In a state of confusion Shinji attempts to choke Asuka, in order to remember what it is like to feel. Asuka returns the gesture with a comforting hand. Shinji overrun with emotions, begins to sob. It turns out that Yui had her own plan as well. The reason why she fused her soul with Unit 01 was so that their would be eternal proof of humanities existence, because ultimately we are alone in the universe from our own perspective, and this was her way to preserve the significance of humanity.

>>70457682
You're right. My memory was fuzzy, as I haven't watched it in a while.
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>>70454461
So you haven't watched the series.
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>>70454469
Keep it up.
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>>70458044

>those young and innocent times
>getting into anime as a young teenager and just being amazed at everything
>getting completely swept up in the hype of shows like Naruto and Bleach
>that pure bliss at watching episode after episode

I honestly miss it. Being able to get so fucking hyped over a show or movie.
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Who bandaged Asuka?

Who nailed Misato's cross into the telephone pole?

Why were Shinji and Asuka laying right next to each other?
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>>70457217
The skinny boy that Shinji didn't fuck in the bath - at the end of rebuild 2, he literally says without actually saying it "I know I'm going through all of this again, but you don't, and this time I won't fuck it up." none of the other characters realize they are somehow reliving that part of their life again though
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>>70457321
>haven't kept up with the manga
>mfw now reading about Mari
ANNO!
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>>70457331
I think as it goes on Ruroni Kenshin may be better, but at first is definitely not.
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>>70458298
Why do you need an answer?
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>>70458308
It makes sense.

Why else is the water red? Why else is there a blood spray on the moon?
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>>70458298
>Misato's cross
Biggest fan theory is Shinji did it and has been chilling out, maxing, relaxing all cool a long time (hence the rusted look) for the rest of humanity decides they don't like being tang.
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>>70457266
some people actually enjoy discussing things, you are not allowed to discuss NGE on /a/ apart from whether asuka is best or not. she is
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>>70456840
What is it though?
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>>70458368
yep, i think people were positing it for a while until that point
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>>70458436

/a/ is shit for actually discussing shows. It has all devolved into waifu faggotry and people posting the same images over and over.
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>tfw EoE's ending got me depressed for a few days
>look for some random anime on Neflix to put on in the background
>Pick some stupid looking show called Gurren Lagaan
>it ends
>suddenly no longer depressed
>life has meaning agian
>all is well

What show helped you recover from Eva /tv/? Or did you just wait it out?
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>>70458459
Sword Art Online killed that board for like the 3rd time
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>>70458436
>some people actually enjoy discussing things

This thread is made at least three times a day on /a/ and are usually more than substantial than this one. What are you even talking about?
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>>70458459
I'm not typically an /a/ poster but it seems okay enough for shows that are actually on air.
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>>70458478
Eva's not a downer though. And if you withdrew and looked for more anime afterwards it didn't work.

And Gunbuster will light a fire under your ass better than any other anime ever made.
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>>70458478
for me it actually worked the other way around, are you a teenager anon?
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>>70457217
At this point, granted Anno is master troll, it's pretty likely the Rebuilds are actually sequels. Especially now that the manga ended, the sequel theory holds up more. Christ, Kaworu hints at it a TON. I'm pretty sure he has at least one line in each movie that makes it seem pretty possible it's a sequel.
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>>70458444
a couple of the single frame images that flash by when asuka's mind is being invaded by the angel
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>>70458481
that show turned to shit after the first half of season 1... please don't tell me people still watch that.
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>>70458478
I thought GL was boring, and I liked Eva.
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>>70458478
Waited it out. After EoE I just kinda sat down and stared outside for a while.

Good choice, TTGL gets too much hate on /a/ the major fault being that Simon is too much of a spineless worm
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>>70458524

It was shit from the start.
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>>70458520
Best girl has a pretty mind.
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>>70458520
>Asuka's mom second row right
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>>70458478

It's been a long, long time since I saw Eva, but I remember it affecting me for a couple of days afterwards. I was in the this weird funk.
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>>70458577
>mom
wat
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>>70458577
>second row right
That's Asuka and the other girl from their school that she hangs out with.
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>>70458604
Oh wait yea her mom died when she was a kid

>>70458611
It's been a while, I don't remember that at all
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>>70458478
In all honesty, really made it difficult for me to get back into anime. Eureka 7 helped out a bit, but mainly I got heavily into superhero comics.
>Tfw Superman will never save Shinji.
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>>70458478

Some of the greatest moments of that show are the deaths of Kittan and the Twins. They just go out in an absolute blaze of glory.
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>>70458478
Initial D
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>get in the damn car, Shinji
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>>70458642
she's not that major of a character, but she does appear pretty regularly. asuka goes to her house (and plays her pirated sega saturn games) when she runs away for the first time
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>>70454362
Its been a while since I watched it so let me try to tell the plot for you.

First of all everyone in the series is fucked in the head. Especially Shinji and Asuka. They totally want to bang but are too fucked in the head to do it.

That huge explosion thing turned the world into semi post apocalyptic containment world where "Angels" pop up. There are mystical artifacts events around that will allow for the rebirth of humanity, the third impact. A neo(new) genesis(origin). In the end this turns out to be some new reality mind fuckery.

NERV is an organization that monitors this mystical shit and is focused on the Third impact. On surface they want to prevent it but other power players want to use it for their own good. Gendo wants to get his wife back and the Illuminati wants to recreate humanity.

Then comes Shinji who is special. Shinji has a connection to the Mystical shit because part of his mother is in the EVA unit. Same with Asuka. So Shinji has the chance to be some sort of deity and therefore control the third impact. They may or may not have been mind games on Shinji, manipulation by the power players to get what they want. IDK I don't remember correctly.

But Shinji despite his flaws chooses a world where people still be shit instead of a complete utopia and that is the scene in the end with Asuka. It is also the congratulations scene in the Anime. Shinji accepted he is a total fuck up so now he doesn't worry about what people think of him. I hope he fucked Asuka tho I was getting boners in some scenes, that bitch is fine as hell.
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>>70458676
Why is takumi so based while shinji is such a faggot?
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>>70458697
Time for a rewatch I guess. I still refuse to watch the rebuilds. Once you see something you can't unsee it and I prefer to remember Eva how I first watched it.
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>>70458676
too bad it consistently got worse as it went on, especially where the art was concerned
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>>70458651
I meant to say EoE made it difficult for me to get back into anime. I remember being fairly confused since for one, I was 12 at the time, and I only watched Eva one time through, but despite not understanding the specifics of the plot, I just picked up on that horrible raw energy of it. Also, I love how in that scene leading up to human instrumentality, it's like everyone's parents wind up disappointing them.

>Gendo tries to bring forth the apocalypse
>Asuka's mother can't protect her.
>Ritsuko's mother chooses Gendo over her
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>>70458520
Asuka's mom is in the red EVA same way Shinjis mom is in purple EVA right?
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Just to clear things up
Misato > Rei >>>>> Asuka
Asuka a shit fuck you
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Apparently this lipstick imprint was made by one of the (very few) female workers at the studio
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>>70458764
yeah
hence that sequence in eoe
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>>70458764
yee. Can't remember what Unit-0's deal was. Did unit 0 have Eva's soul in it, even though Rei did at the same time?
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>>70455118
OOOOHHHHHH!
Okay, yeah.
That makes sense
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>>70458776
which studio
eva was outsourced to everyone
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>>70458824
I think unit 0 was a prototype and still had Shinjis mom in it. Rei is a clone of Shinjis mom so thats why their sync levels were really high.
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>>70458848
Was Shinji's mom inside 2 Eva units at the same time?
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>>70458824
>Unit-0's deal was

It had part of Rei's soul in it. This is revealed when Shinji is tested in it and is explicitly shown before Rei does a hero.
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>>70458846
Don't remember. Gainax maybe?
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>>70458824
I remember reading something saying it was the soul of the first Rei, to justify why it tried to kill Ritsuko that one time I guess
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>>70458905
Post Reiquarium

That shit was downright spooky
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>>70458768
this
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>>70458726
>tfw I dont know if you're talking about Initial D Shinji or Eva Shinji
Apparently, all Shinji's are huge fags with no self esteem or confidence

>>70458752
true, fortunately 1st stage is pretty long, and final stage is pretty short, and 5th wasnt that long either, I probably look at 4th with the most disdain, even if it isnt the worst stage overall imo, just because of how long it drags on. Still I dont think any of the stages are inherently bad, but definitely dipping below where I would really want them to be, I wouldnt watch the whole series if it was all on the same level as 5th stage. But yeah the art definitely got worse too, I actually kind of enjoyed the weird lima bean heads everyone had in 1st stage.
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I rewatched it yesterday.
On my like, third viewing now, I only just realised how weirdly not depressing the movie is towards the end. When >>70456245 starts playing it more or less follows the traditional anime "FUCK YEAH ANIME PROTAGONIST IS WINNING NOW" ending, and in the subtext pretty much everyone gets the happy ending they want.

Still good though.
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>>70458905
>soul of the first Rei

They all share the same soul, mate. A part of it just happened to be in the Unit 0.
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>>70458905
spooky Rei is still cute. CUTE!!
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>comfy Eva thread at nearly 4 in the morning with some decent discussion
Sometimes I forget I'm browsing /tv/
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>>70458984
>in the subtext pretty much everyone gets the happy ending they want
The Earth is a huge fucking mess, though. The ones who chose to return will have to live one it. And not many people will choose, apparently.
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>>70458938
4th is definitely the most boring.

The character art is probably more consistent later on, and the 3d is miles ahead of course, but the 1st stage art is so much more expressive. Plus the characters actually look like teenagers and twenty-somethings racing their econo shitboxes. Like, Shingo in the ovas looks like he aged 15 years and gained 30 pounds of muscle
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just remembered how angry i was watching 3.33
>shinji you motherfucker what the fuck you have done. i swear ill kill you!
>what have i done i dont remember anything?
>no time to explain, but i swear ill kill you if you do anything
>what should i do, can anyone tell me what happened?
>shinji what the fuck are you doing?! ima beat your fucking ass i swear
rinse and repeat
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>>70454461
Because he hates her. He wants everyone to die, remember? She's the one that triggered him into it, the cunt that she is.
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>>70454487
ffs I am shinji irl
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>>70459091
wrong
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>>70454543
lol
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>>70458984
>is winning now
He wasn't really winning though. He had accidentally everybody on earth because he was afraid and decided afterwards that he shouldn't have done it.

Nobody really won there. It was incredibly melancholic.
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I've never watched this but I just read the entire thread. The aethestics are great, the story sounds great and the ending sounds great except for one thing... The main guy strangling the chick because he doesn't know if she's real or not. That sounds so unbelievably retarded, I think I'd be mad if I watched all of the show and then it ended like that.
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>>70459173
you're retarded for trying to judge a moment based on an offhand description and theyre retarded for thinking it was to find out if she was real
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>>70459173
Anon here did a good explanation>>70454487
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>>70459173

If you want to interpret it differently, feel free to do so.
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>>70459173
He's like, 14 and a fucking psycho at that point.
Just watch it.
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>>70459058
I agree entirely, especially about Shingo, they changed him up entirely after first stage or so, they even changed the colour of his hair for no discernible reason. The OVAs messed with his characterization a bit too I felt, all of a sudden he went from having this fierce rivalry, standoffish relationship with Takeshi, all of a sudden he's trying to hook him up with Saiyuki, and then back to standoffishness again, it was jarring really.

>>70459173
A lot of people have a lot of interpretations on the ending of EoE, but it actually differs from the ending of the anime (eps 25 and 26) in some ways, anywhere from not at all to quite seriously depending on interpretation. If you do decide to watch the series, I would say watch all of Neon Genesis Eva first, than EoE, it will make more sense, and provide you with another set of tools to look at it with.
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i love how threads about eva's meaning or something related sometimes gets 200+ replies

congratulations /tv/
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>>70459300
the characterization of the two of them actually never bothered me. i thought the point was to show that being humbled by losing to takumi made them both better people. plus there's this scene when he's watching him race keisuke. maybe theyre a little too chummy in the ova, but it's set a bit after 1st stage and has a lighter overall tone anyway
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>>70459476
I agree in general that their relationship improved and progressed a lot throughout the show, and that losing to Takumi improved their relationship, but like you said, I just thought they were a bit too close in the OVA, and it isn't even that theyre too close, but that I felt like afterwards they were still making the same jokes they were making in the earlier stages about not wanting to be seen watching the races together and such, almost glossing over the OVA. It didn't really bother me too much, I just kind of saw it as odd that after their relationship had suddenly improved so much in the OVA that they were suddenly back at the point where they were in 1st or 2nd stage even though it's like 5th stage at this point.
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>>70456054
Grow up.
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>>70459705
whoops i had actually forgotten they had cameos in the later stuff too. that is p lame then. but not unsurprising considering shingeno was never really any good at handing the supporting cast.

like how all the old akina boys are totally irrelevant once project d is inf ull swing
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>>70459834
>like how all the old akina boys are totally irrelevant once project d is in full swing

fuck, that had me so pissed, early on I was enjoying watching Itsuki and Iketani get cucked eternally, but by the end I was happy just seeing him show up at all, instead of just being Keisuke and Ryosuke: the show ft. Takumi
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>>70456054
Nobody fucking cares except you, ya fuckin' sperg. It's good information.
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This is the only 10/10 anime ever made.

FLCL is close to a 10 but it's a slight bit short.
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>>70454461
you fucking autists make me sick. not every fucking thing has to be fully explained. that literally goes against what art is supposed to represent. you are the kind of people that will look at a picasso and think "that looks nothing like a person, fuck this shit this dont make sense".

what's more important is that the emotions, themes, etc. is expressed through visual medium (in this instance). in that regard, even though i have no idea what is ACTUALLY happening within the fictional canon, i do "get it".

and to me the scene, the red ocean, the dark sky, represent the bleakness of reality which shinji has come to terms with. when he sees asuka he basically loses it. all the real world pain and suffering he went through comes back all at once and he looks for a "release" (echoing the FIRST scene of the movie where he is looking for some kind of "release").

when asuka touches his face, he realizes in this bleak real world that there still is hope for happiness. he starts to cry and asuka says her famous last words. in another callback to the first scene, you could say this is her "response" to it. it also encapsulates the feeling of rejection shinji and subsequently anno feel. those final words tell us that even though shinji might find moments of happiness (represented by asukas touch), he still has to deal with the pain, guilt and shame that he creates and that others place on him.

this is my interpretation of the last scene. i didnt need to spam a board or watch some kids "analysis" on youtube to "get it".

it is a powerful movie.
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>>70460494
EoE's ending scene is the most kino moment of any anime.

Fuck it's so good it feels like something Kubrick would direct
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>>70459313
Evangelion is pretty much a required watching for anyone on 4chan.
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>>70456288
>>70456245
nge ost >eoe ost tbqh family
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHq68t2kgwM
still can't listen to this without tearing up a little
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>>70460474

>mfw plebs call the style "poor" or "cheap" and "low budget"

I'm not even on it's jock but it has impressive animation, pisses me off, this is why it's better for things to stay obscure or atleast like evangelion where plebs might know about it but don't really watch more then a few episodes.
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>>70454362
He strangled her because she wasn't Rei, like he wanted.

It's really not that hard to figure out.
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>>70460624
>not posting the best theme

wew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpY5IVPynAo
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>>70460695
This guy gets it
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>>70460624
>but .. doesnt everyone hate me?

>no you idiot! dont you see it was just your imagination !?

: (
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>>70460715
Asuka > Rei
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>>70460711
also great but i was always a fan of the simpler tracks and the more ambient ones

like borderline case and infantile dependence, adult dependency
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Only incredibly stupid people think this shitty cartoon is confusing and deep. Take this fuckwit for example >>70454461 apparently it's super difficult to remember the faggot lead choked this bitch 20 minutes earlier for rejecting him so he continues the job when he sees her again. Wow, so fucking hard.
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visual kino master
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>>70460922

So much pottery in Evangelion isn't recognized.
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Is it explained how Asuka manages to survive getting gangbanged by the Angels and somehow ends up with Shinji in the final scene.

Also why does Rei appear standing over Misato before she dies?
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>>70461088
Enough left of Asuka to get tanged apparently.
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>>70461070
Posting some more cinematography
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The last two episodes and EoE don't make any fucking sense on purpose, Anno wants to fuck with people and make them think that all these meaningless things mean something, but they just can't figure it out.
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>>70461185
>Says this while posting a Rebuild image
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>>70461088
The dead are shown being tanged throughout the film, so presumably she doesn't survive. Certainly no one losing as much blood as she was would last long in the best of circumstances. Time doesn't mean much to lilith, remember she appears to shinji at the beginning of the series
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>>70461174
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>>70461249
neat to see him use those kinds of tank shots again in the godzilla trailer
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>>70461306
Godzilla's looking pretty hype.
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>Eva is one in maybe 100 animes with tangible visual direction
>because of this, anime plebs mistake it for actual cinema
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>>70461249
>cinegraph for the first episode

literally what's the point? do one for the entire series, not one episode
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>>70461381
Anime will never be taken seriously because the manchildren watching it hate anything that deviates from the status quo or isn't generic cliche shit.

Just look at MAL, the top 10 shows are dominated by shonenshit with no artistic merit while shows like Lain, Texhnolyze and Eva are trashed and called "pretentious".
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>>70457050
Your picture actually happened to me once.
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>>70461462
Do you think you might have wanted to die?
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>>70458070
Not /a/'s fault that you have no standards :^)
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>>70457016
Elfen Lied was always just a pussified Genocyber.
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>>70461544
I torrent movies and albums but fuck pirating anime.

Who the fuck wants to wait ten minutes to download 1-3gb of anime when you can stream it on various sites for free at 720p?
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>>70461596
More people should watch Genocyber. It's got this reputation for being mindless edge when there's so much more going on than that.
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>>70461459
>look at the top 10 anime on MAL
>5 of these 10 animes are Gintama
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>>70461610
This. Anime doesn't deserve downloading.
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>>70458518
>>70457321
tl:dr about those hints in the manga?
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>>70461650
I'm intrigued anon. What more is there?
Genocyber isn't really what I'd call deep or something, but it's so brutal that everyone should see it. There's no grand moral or bittersweet ending. It's just fuck you everyone's dead.
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>>70461691
Gintama isn't a typically shonen
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>>70457034
Shinji opened the door for others to come back, Asuka was the first. Shinji is the savior of humanity
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>>70457050
Unironically Kill la Kill
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>>70462118
>no plants
>no animals
>cities destroyed
Good luck.
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Evangelion is overrated shit. I watched like 14 episodes and dropped it.

If you want an actual good animayshit with mecha, stuff like giant robo is true kino.

Anno's a hack. Just wait to see how badly he fucks up the godzilla movie. mark my words.
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>>70462307
>giant robo is true kino

This is actual overrated trash. What's next, watch G Gundam?
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