What do you all think about Snyder's planned adaptation of the Fountainhead? Should they change anything to make it more palatable to non-objectivists, like say making the main character not be as much of an asshole?
Hopefully it's not as bad as the Atlas Shrugged movies.
>Snyder
hyped
>>70438244
I'm hyped because it means he'll be so busy with this movie that the damage he does to DC will be minimized. Also, because it'll prove to my annoying friends that Hollywood isn't as liberal as they thought.
>>70438195
I honestly liked Dagney's brother the best in Atlas.
>>70438195
too bad nobody's ever going to watch it, because if they did it'd be a meme an order of magnitude deeper than bvs
>>70439241
Why? He was a strawman death-seeking moocher that hates succesful people and only wants to drag them down, because that's what Rand thinks all people that disagree with her are like
>>70438195
I'd like to see Amber Heard in it tbH
>>70438195
>like say making the main character not be as much of an asshole?
Impossible. Being a huge asshole is part and parcel of the ideology.
it's kinda perfect for him
so many explosions/sex scenes/monologues
>>70438195
There was already a movie based off of this book.
Didn't we already get that with MoS?
Fucking hell, Ayn Rand just makes fapfiction for her supposed ideal male that doesn't give a shit about anyone. Fuck that book and reading it in highschool
Does Ayn pander to SJWs or MRAs? I've never gotten this figured out, both sides says different thing
>>70439957
I'd say mostly to MRAs. She hated feminists and her ideal man is an uber alpha to whom women submit to.
>>70439854
And Ayn Rand wrote the script too.
>>70439957
Neither?
ITT: Triggered communists
>>70438195
>Snyder
>Fountainhead movie
This is going to be such a catastrophe
>>70440362
as an actual european commie, nobody gets triggered by Ayn Rand because no one takes her seriously
>>70440452
And this is why Yurope is cucked.
>>70440452
are you excited for the return of the european right
i assume you commies are jumping at the new excuse to go flip cars and burn shops, and it'll be even more fun to watch when there's gangs of skinheads out to compete with you
>>70440362
>taking the writings of Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum seriously
The original with Gary Cooper was surprsingly good.
>>70440362
So you think that anyone that isn't an objectivist/libertarian is automatically a commie?
Yup, you sound like Ayn Rand all right.
>>70440362
god damn claire is fucking perfect
>>70440699
You sound like someone that has never read a Rand book before and only gets opinions about her from leddit or tumblr.
>>70440739
thats like calling someone out for never reading a GOT book
she's a shit writer
>objectivism
>>70440831
So admit that you are calling her a shit writer without ever even reading any of her books?
>rand
What's it like being 13?
I'm erect with anticipation of this guaranteed total trainwreck.
if snyder's fountainhead doesn't finally convince everyone the man is a literal retard, then humanity is truly lost.
>>70440936
>says the NEET that probably can't even get through Atlas Shrugged because you couldn't finish highschool.
>>70440739
I did read Rand. Anyone that disagrees with Rand is a death-seeker that is jealous and hates succesful people. They're all strawmen, anyone that isn't an objectivist is evil.
>>70441022
I can attest to this.
>muh Ayntology
>>70441022
What's a death-seeker?
>>70441003
Lol. Anyone who reads Atlas shrugged over the age 18 is a joke
>be objectivist
>get lunge cancer
>sing of for social security
>>70441075
They all want to die and bring the collapse on civilization. It's their secret goal.
>>70441102
Learn to spell.
>>70438195
>2 1/2 hours of shiting on collectivist scum
Yes please
>The "philosophy" is called objectivism
>It's objectively shit
>American philosophy
Rand was a feminist, just not a supporter of the identity-political riddled socialistic version that's displayed today
>>70441123
anyone who mooches off others
aka ayn rand
in collectivism she would have been buried while still alive
>>70441407
Well, to be fair, women weren't entirely equal to men yet in western civilization.
Unlike today where women are as equal (or even more privileged than) men.
Feminism still had a place back then, not today.
>>70441293
>all philosophy
>>70441473
>I've never spoken to a woman who's not my mom
>>70441549
What the fuck are you on about?
Here is a moment that proves how dumb Rand was. Not only is she being pretty racist, she's claiming that consumers don't matter to the economy at all, a store goes bankrupt even though it has paying customers.
>Now project the mentality of a savage, who can grasp nothing but the concretes of the immediate moment, and who finds himself transported into the midst of a modern, industrial civilization. If he is an intelligent savage, he will acquire a smattering of knowledge, but there are two concepts he will not be able to grasp: "credit" and "market."
>Then the savage observes that the department stores are full of wonderful goods, but people do not seem to buy them. "Why is that?" he asks a floorwalker. "We don't have enough of a market," the floorwalker tells him. "What is that?" he asks. "Well," his new teacher answers, "goods are produced for people to consume, it's the consumers that make the world go 'round, but we don't have enough consumers." "Is that so?" says the savage, his eyes flashing with the fire of a new idea. Next day, he obtains a check from a big educational foundation, he hires a plane, he flies away—and comes back, a while later, bringing his entire naked, barefoot tribe along. "You don't know how good they are at consuming," he tells his friend, the floorwalker, "and there's plenty more where these came from. Pretty soon you'll get a raise in pay." But the store, pretty soon, goes bankrupt.
>The poor savage is unable to understand it to this day—because he had made sure that many, many people agreed with his idea, among them many noble tribal chiefs, such as Governor [George, not Mitt] Romney, who sang incantations to "consumerism," and warrior Nader, who fought for the consumers' rights, and big business chieftains who recited formulas about serving the consumers, and chiefs who sat in Congress, and chiefs in the White House, and chiefs in every government in Europe, and many more professors than he could count.
For once I'm glad Hack Synder is ruining something.
>>70441293
>russian immigrant
>american
wat
>>70441774
She is 100% right. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>70441832
How is she right? How did the store go bankrupt?
>>70441774
Rest of quote
>But, in fact, consumers qua consumers are not part of anyone's market; qua consumers, they are irrelevant to economics. Nature does not grant anyone an innate title of "consumer"; it is a title that has to be earned—by production. Only producers constitute a market—only men who trade products or services for products or services.
>>70442001
>>70441987
>>70441922
>>70441774
television and film truly are the dumbest medias
They should just make a Bioshock movie
>>70442167
vidya
>>70442167
Very well then, enlighten me. Explain how an economic system can survive without consumers and why a store would go bankrupt if it has a bunch of customers.
Rand seems to view the economy as just rich producers trading with each other, this is quite evident in Atlas Shrugged. All the protagonist rich people deal with materials and transportation, there's a big disdain for the masses.
>>70439461
Yeah, the philosophy basically says that being selfish is a virtue, so naturally selfish assholes latch onto it.
>>70438195
>It's OK to blow up a building because I'm the architect and they dared modify my design
Why is this guy the hero again?
>mfw a literal Objectivist tried to make movies about superheroes
>>70438195
>>70443200
Is Snyder really an objectivist?
>>70438195
They better cut out the long boring monologues
>>70443591
Whether he is or not, whether people realize it or not, it appears that he's turned his career as a director into a performance art adaptation of "The Fountainhead's" central themes, at least from my cursory understanding of the book, never having read it.
>>70440452
Do you love niggers?
>>70442275
It's entirely bullshit and doesn't make sense dude, it's just philosophical rhetoric.
Objectivism is objectively shit and actually unnatural, altruism and cooperation are inherent human qualities passed down from the tribal stages of human social evolution.
>>70445465
The Patricia Neal version from 1948 basically is going to be impossible to beat, in that it fixed a lot of the bad shit from the novel to make it pretty compelling.
Indeed, the only thing Snyder can offer to the table is making a version that has Toohey suffering a horrific just punishment, as in the '48 movie and original novel, he fucking gets away with EVERYTHING and it's implied that he will continue to try and ruin Howard
>>70446284
To be fair that is a common trait of Rand's work: IE the villains ALWAYS get away with their shit and only the common shitlord actually pays the price for the main villains shit
>>70438195
SNYDERRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
>>70438195
More than objectivism per se I think Snyder is interested in exploring the creative process.
It'd certainly be interesting to watch, sonce he loves giving an unexpected spin to his adaptations.
