>MFW it's actually breddy gud
I don't remember anything from the opening crawl.
The movie is kinda hazzy too... they start on Jakku (not Tatooine) and... Kanjiklub, then the forest planet... and some stuff on the Death Star. Right?
>>70412738
Were you drunk?
>>70412685
yeah it's not bad
still a little forgettable and safe but it's not as awful as lot of people make it out to be
>>70413264
I'm legit enjoying this.
>>70412685
Only dumbass contrarians think it was terrible. It was too much like ANH, the main character was bland and it doesn't give the vast impression Star Wars should, but it wasn't a bad film by any means. It was just alright.
ALso, Daisy Ridley is a fox.
>>70412738
>Luke Skywalker has disappeared
that part got me.
it's a rehash of episode IV.
rey is a mary sue capable of doing things she shouldnt be able to do regardless of lineage.
its a good movie, not a good star wars
DROID PLEASE
>>70413331
dude that Dogfight is awesome.
>>70413490
It's a better Star Wars than I, II, and III.
That's more than enough.
REMINDER
>YWN have a brobot
>>70413562
I feel like I can at least enjoy the prequels as a train wreck and appreciate some of the thought that went into all the locations. Force Awakens is a better movie but it's just so drab and I barely remember any intense moments of dialogue through all the shit exploding
>>70413562
no, it wasnt better than any of them.
its a rehash of a previously done plot which completely negates its legitimacy as it is.
the only good new character was the black dude and maybe the pilot.
people had to figure that disney would give the princess treatment to this franchise since they bought it so its the hand we are dealt with.
episodes 1-3 werent great movies, but theyre better star wars movies than TFA
Being old sucks.
It was bad. What was even the point of it? It was more like a tribute to the old trilogy than an actual movie on its own. They didn't do anything remotely original or expand on the universe in any way. Everything was just a nostalgic set piece.
Not to mention how full of plotholes it is.
>>70413013
>When the weed is too dank
asdasd
>>70413678
It's "so-bad-it's-good" is not an excuse.
>>70413683
No they aren't, they don't understand the spirit of SW.
They gave Yoda a lightsaber, the lightsaber battles sucked and had no depth, Jedi wore Farmer Robes, Jar Jar, shitty love story, etc.
Look at this and tell me that's better than TFA.
>blows up what I assume was the Republic's capital (they never explained)
>people are shocked for two seconds and go back to not caring
What the fuck was the point in that? Since the First Order already accomplished their primary goal, what was even at stake any more?
How would you have reacted?
>>70413948
the resistance's home base and the fate of the entire galaxy.
>>70413948
This bothered me too. So many cut scenes really made that section of the movie hard to follow.
Luckily, I am a fan of the extended canon stuff, so I already have answers to all the questions. I just don't think its fair for the people who don't care about the books.
>>70413863
>TFW
>>70413910
you're cherrypicking.
the saber battles weren't bad at all, idk where you're going with that.
jar jar and the gungans were fucking dumb, that's pretty much universally agreed upon.
you can't tell me you took the emo whiny douche that is supposed to be the next 'vader' of the series seriously when all he did was throw temper tantrums and get beat in saber duels by someone who has never used one.
also, the cringey fucking part where he goes to interrogate her with the force and she ends up resisting and using a jedi mind trick to escape. Jokes, dude.
like i said, TFA was a good movie, but not a good star wars. its rehashed, old, used up. it isnt original and it fed on nostalgia.
>>70412738
>LUKE SKYWALKER HAS VANISHED
something like that I remember
>>70413910
>this was actually in a Star Wars movie
>>70413948
It's clearly stated that that was the Republic's home planet. Pay attention.
>>70413562
No its not. The Prequels will always be better
>>70413981
The resistance only exists to protect the Republic. They failed.
Considering the Empire can just whip up another Death Star/Star Destroyer whenever they feel like it the whole ending feels empty and pointless.
>>70414063
>>70414067
Yeah I have a tendency to miss the offhand exposition in between the 20 minute action scenes.
>>70414082
Mom, why does the Empire get THREE Death Stars?
Wut
>>70414082
lol
>>70414088
They exist to fight the first order because the republic didn't want to make an army.
>>70414135
>he doesn't rewatch the film multiple times
are you not a Star Wars fan?
>>70413013
>nutted but she still sucking
>>70414116
What's wrong with this scene? It mirrors the first film when Luke destroys the Death Star and saves the day.
>>70413825
Reminds me of Skyfall.
>HUR DUR DUR BEST BOND MOVIE
No it wasnt. It mainly acted as a tribute to all the other Bond movies with the gadget, old car references. Skyfall had a better script but Spectre had far better rich environments and that one didnt end with a Home Alone rip off montage
>>70413380
I am a bit upset about that, because it seems worse than the Nostalgia pandering Lucas did in the prequels.
They had some nice cinematography and I did like the characters, except Rey because she seemed too good, but it feels like they wanted to play it safe, way too much.
Fug
>>70414245
think about who did the deed though.
>>70412023
I always get that warm tingly sensation when watching the opening music + crawl from the OT. I thought it was just conditioning because I still got that feeling from the PT. But in TFA, nothing.
>>70414297
Casino was better but Skyfall is still pretty great though.
>Home Alone
this arguement is complete bullocks, m8.
>>70414298
Kylo is actually an amazing fresh character.
>Keeps his helmet in a case filled of enemy ashes
Yes he is a wannabe Vader but then that is the way his character is written: it is symbolic of human society, how we wish to be exact copycats of others.
Actually an intelligent film by Disney in places. Otherwise my main problem with the film is the running time. It was far too short to better get to know the new characters as they spent majority of the time running and being chased.
:3
>>70413380
I think a big reason TFA gets hate that has nothing to do with the actual movie is that it was made by Disney.
The Disney buyout of Lucasfilm and their immediate decision to start making SW films as fast as possible just comes off as very cold business to a lot of people. People had made up their mind, before TFA came out, that Disney SW movies are just product and not movies.
When the comparison to A New Hope started being made after TFA came out, people got very negative, especially with the idea Disney's motive was just to make product that appealed to the long-term fans who knew REAL SW was Ep 4-6. Nostalgia money. Hating The Force Awakens was the result of that.
>>70414508
You're partly right. Disney's hand was all over this movie making it as generic and safe as possible. That's why a lot of people hate it.
>you can't tell me you took the emo whiny douche that is supposed to be the next 'vader' of the series seriously when all he did was throw temper tantrums
not that guy but this describes Anakin easily
>>70414480
>>70414508
It kinda feel like a "corporate cog", sure every product is made with the idea of selling it to make a profit, heck Coppola would have not worked on the Godfather had it not been for his debt problems, but it kinda feels like they just thought out what would work best in the shortest term, like when they closed Lucasarts, which had 1 completed game ready to ship and a huge TPS-RPG starring Boba Feet (on Lucas personal request otherwise the game would have probably been ready by then) that was even presented at E3.
Sure on the short term, that's less salaries to pay, more money for you, but is also like buying a corn field and burning the corn that was about to mature just because you want to build something the next week, you did not pay for it so no loss but you also ruined a huge potential for profit.
So when's the 4K blu-ray out, 1080p is shit
turned it off multiple times it was so terrible, probably should finish it but it's so bad.
>>70414728
>falling for the 4K meme
>>70414432
It's quite literally the same thing m8, are you sure you don't want to hate TFA because it feels like you do.
>>70414789
>Watched Sicario in 4K HDR
>Made the Blu-Ray look like a fucking joke
Watched it on a plane a couple weeks ago.
It was a carbon copy of A New Hope. Not offensively bad or anything, but just too bland to care for more than just the duration of the movie.
>>70413735
Chewie, we're old.
>>70412738
>Luke Skywalker has vanished.
That's really the only thing I remember from the opening crawl.
>>70414508
>Disney's motive was just to make product that appealed to the long-term fans who knew REAL SW was Ep 4-6. Nostalgia money.
JJ confirmed this.
>>70412023
>AGHHHHHHHHHHH!! ACTION!! NO FUCKING QUITE MOMENTS ONLY FUCKING ACTION AHHHHHHHHHHH!!
>>70414508
>thumblr
that image is fucking gay
>>70415049
There's nothing wrong with this, Warner, Fox, Sony, everybody would do the same thing, but at least Disney has some of the best quality control people in the business.
>>70414480
Kylo was just about the only risk they took, actually. And half the audience hates him for not being a badass like Vader despite that being the point.
I don't expect them to take too many risks going forward either. Rian Johnson is good, but I can see Disney nixing any attempt to go interesting directions with the characters. Rey will probably "struggle" with the dark side on paper but mostly just stay the perfect role model.
>>70414596
He is afraid to show his face. He looks away like a little bitch when Hux walks in on him talking with Snoke without his mask.
He's powerful with a lot of natural talent, but the point is he's so fucked emotionally and mentally by trying to force himself to be dark that his strength doesn't mean shit.
>>70414245
It's like poetry.
Noice
>>70413735
>>70414947
I BELONG IN A MUSEUM
>>70415260
You telling me Han never used the bowcaster before?! Or maybe his old mind just forgot.
>>70413562
I don't remember everything looking so obviously CG'd.
TFA was great but it was a rehash of ANH. JJ Abrams basically confirmed it because Disney didn't think the GA would be able to handle anything else but the safest possible film.
Rey was well acted but she was definitely overpowered (muh strong womyn).
Finn was well acted but way too fucking comedic for someone who's been trained to kill his entire life.
Kylo Ren was well acted but I left the theater feeling embarrassed for him because of how badly Rey fucked him up.
DAMN NIGGA
SAVAGE
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>>70415435
best scene coming up
>>70415260
>I LIKE this thing!
This was honestly the funniest SW movie.
>>70415460
AH YEAH
>>70415435
TRAITOR
>>70415514
BEST SONG ON THE OST COMING THROUGH
https://youtu.be/ueqKtype7Kk
>>70415518
Pretty weak 2bh
Besides kylo, what does VII offer that the ANH trilogy doesnt?
>>70415518
He took Finn out like a bitch.
>>70415083
>t. "signature" JJ Abrams "style"
>GOODNESS
>>70415083
>>70415695
Would you rather have mind-numingly boring pace of TPM?
>>70415546
God, how unremarkable it is.
>>70414137
the smoke battle was pre aesthetic
>>70415715
fucking JJ, the absolute madman!
>>70415546
>forgettable pablum i wouldn't wipe my musical ass with
XD good job williems!
>>70415555
Checked
>>70415734
I actually would yeah since then perhaps the story could be advanced with actual story instead of generic space-fantasy battle#213
>>70415734
>it must be this extreme or that extreme!
>>70414137
there's nothing wrong with this
the vehicles are fucking cool, regardless of the shittiness of the movie
>>70412738
>Luke Skywalker cannot be found
This line stuck with me.
>>70415826
Or like >>70415832 says, perhaps just turn down the action a few notches.
>That feel when you see your old bitch
>>70414494
>wearing lipstick
How? She is a desert girl who hardly has a wash
>>70415906
>new jacket?
>>70416033
I kek'd
>>70415555
I'm no match for those quads
>>70414902
It depends who rips and makes the blu rays.
Ive watched compared a remastered 1080p to a non remastered 1080p and they look very different.
All 4K does is remaster the color and some sharpness. All this can be done on a normal blu ray disc.
>>70415474
I have to unfortunately agree with you
>>70413445
>>70414300
>>70414494
She's an ugly butch troll, faggot.
>>70415906
>that cgi ship
WHY JJ
>>70416210
LITERALLY a goddess.
>>70416058
For some reason I read all of that in Trump's voice.
>>70416238
For Britbongs, maybe.
>>70415906
What a terrible(terrible) shot. Feels so artificial.
>>70415906
>"Hey Leia how is your cancer treatment?"
>"Fuck you Han".
xD
>>70416238
she's all right.
>>70416058
>Light side, dark side... Who cares? She's on the cock side
>>70416058
im okay with this
>She will never Jedi mind trick you
>>70414421
>press the button to ACTIVATE ALL THE DROIDS
so really Jorge, why didn't they just attack the droid control ship first? Then where the fuck did the entire blockade go? Like nobody asked why there isn't a blockade anymore?
Was this an Indiana Jones nod?
Yeah the is
>>70417019
I actually kek'd when that happened.
>>70414137
>let's make fun of dated technology
>>70414480
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/716676038902681600
>>70415555
5>6>4>2>7>3>1
>>70414468
No that grid is shit and skyfall is overrated. Spectre looks better and was better even tho its not great
>>70417342
>1 last
confirmed for memer who doesn't actually have an actual opinion
>>70417449
2 is better than 1 for some reason idk why but 1 still is amazing
>>70417478
ok never mind you're somewhat alright
>>70415260
>crossbow is a traditional Wookie weapon
>Han finally tries it after 30 years
Ok, Disney.
>>70417513
Yeah it was shit like that that ruined it.
>>70413948
And how the fuck did they see it from Orange midgets planet?
>>70414480
>>70414137
Is this an attempt to mock Clones? This single webm had more cool action than VII, better pacing in the action scene, editing and looked prettier.
>>70417298
Nah man we're not making fun of dated tech. We're making fun of it being so overused they insisted their tech would look better than actual actors in costumes in close up shots.
CG ages well when its used sparingly and in places only where practical effects are just far too impractical.
>>70417641
lol
>>70417765
Yeah, thought so.
>>70416942
>9gag
>>70417641
Top kek
>>70415555
CALL ON ME!!
http://webm.land/w/mRsF/
>>70417641
fucking lmao
>>70417801
>>70417789
Go ahead and show me a better sequence from VII that is not cut to shit and with better action.
>Kylo Brandishes flaming cross saber
>sees Finn caressing an unconscious Rey
>NIIIIGGGEEEEERRRRR
Looks like Raimis up to his old tricks again.
>>70417830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV6sjwqCQ2M
>better action
>better choreography
>far better pacing
>stronger connection with characters so the stakes feel much higher
>live actors
>better lighting because real place
Well that was easy as shit.
>>70412023
This movie is total garbage.
letdown of the fucking century
>no scope, which is basically what makes Star Wars Star Wars
>boring and/or monkey-tier diversity hire actors
>USE DA FORCE
>>70417433
>wanting used goods that got a water bottle up the ass just to get the part
>>70417948
>mary sue fights angry edgelord in an over dramatic fashion with no emotion at all
I'll give you the part from 0:23 to 0:48 tough.
>stronger connection with characters so the stakes feel much higher
I felt no connection what so ever to any of those characters since the movie just throws them all at you from the get go instead of easing into them and getting to know them.
>lighting
its absolute trash in that scene though. just a dark dull blueish color with the sabers as a very contrasting bright flare makes for a not so good scene.
They could have added some lights behind the trees to create some shadows for a more epic and ominous feeling but no, its just a dull dark blue snowy forest.
also, it has a very jarring cut. when Finn is on the ground at 0:34 and goes to stand up, he is already standing in 0:35 a frame later.
>better choreography
webm didnt really depict a scene that needed fighting choreography but ok.
its absolute abysmal. after almost every attack there is a cut. cut cut cut all the time.
you could probably choreograph a fighting scene better than this one.
>>70418222
>>mary sue fights angry edgelord in an over dramatic fashion with no emotion at all
>Actually saying this in defense of a webm showcasing hollow computer people representations of hollow soulless clones fighting fake plastic robots
>I felt no connection what so ever to any of those characters since the movie just throws them all at you from the get go instead of easing into them and getting to know them.
I feel like repeating myself because it applies so well here.
>Implying three well established main characters fighting can't compete with fake plastic dolls and shaky cam
You fucking call the lighting bad in a scene where the lightsabers literally reflect off of every fucking surface, including the actors' eyeballs over a sequence with absolute shit early 2000s lighting.
I was baited. It took me this long but I caught on. Ending my post here. Fuck this I'm out.
>>70417948
I love the battle between Finn and Kylo (feels like a real swordfight) but the part with Rey is fucking dumb (suddenly becomes a master of the force in a matter of seconds when it took Anakin and Luke years to train).
I still get a chubby from those lightsabers man, I love seeing them smoke up in the snow.
>>70417389
I liked Spectre as well.
>>70418307
>You fucking call the lighting bad in a scene where the lightsabers literally reflect off of every fucking surface, including the actors' eyeballs over a sequence with absolute shit early 2000s lighting.
Fuck yeah i do. No, the lightsaber ambient lighting is all good im talking about the lighting on the rest of the set.
Its like the lighting department had a day off and they just wandered into some dark woods to shoot that sequence.
I mean fucking look at it! It is the definition of DULL.
The light from the lasers in the dust shootout in the webm also reflects on the troopers as well as cast ambient light onto the dust in the air as they fly on by.
And calling the geonosis lighting shit whilst praising the lighting(or should i say lack off) in the arguably most boring looking forest shot in any movie ever is absolutely mental.
>well established main characters
i refer you back to "the movie just throws them all at you from the get go instead of easing into them and getting to know them"
as for the no emotion comment i agree but we're talking about two different engagements here.
we have one were clone soldiers who are bred for war fighting open ground combat and one where the main characters are duking it out in a fight that is supposed to be emotional but just ends up being a very generic sword fighting scene that tries its best to imitate the battles in the OT but ultimately falls flat due to the incredibly awkward editing as well as delivery from the actors.
I mean for gods sake, take a look here.
1:15. In canyon fighting. 1:16. the next frame, in woods again, canyon no where in sight.
Its like they thought action meant "many clips in quick succession".
So no good choreography there. Editing is shot to shit with all those cuts that make no fucking sense. Stale emotional fight. Ambient lighting that my room actually trumps.
>>70418961
Look you have some points but there's literally nothing wrong with the lighting in that scene. It's a fucking snowstorm after Ben just killed his dad, dull and cloudy is what they were going for.
>>70413562
...why was the whole room CG?
>>70419126
Yeah but there are other ways to do dull and cloudy instead of actually making it dull and cloudy.
What they could have done is this.
Add a wee bit more background lighting to bring out some more detail instead of making it all a strange blue-hue forest with white(blue-ish) snow and very very dark not snowy parts.
Like in pic to the left here. See that blurry dark mess in the background? yeah, pop some lights over there to get those branches to cast some shadows as well as more lights to highlight the falling snowflakes.
more incoming.
>>70419369
>>70419126
Also, increase the lightsabers light intensity as a whole to bring out the surrounding areas via the ambient red and blue lighting having them cast beautiful shadows instead of being a red and a blue spot on the ground right below them.
Imagine pic related with the trees casting shadows away from them with a raging red that shows the anger Kylo was feeling, highlighting the surrounding area in a
Get some non over the shoulder oblique shots in there as well.
I think i saw 1 areal that lasted about half a second.
>>70419203
It's lucus. We're lucky the actors weren't CGI too.
>>70419554
highlighting the surrounding in a way that brings out the beautiful terrain via shadows*
>>70414421
>this is supposed to be intimidating
>>70419673
doubt it was intended to be intimidating to the viewer but rather to the low-tech gungans.
>>70414208
[visible confusion]
>>70419554
As well as get some proper choreography instead of cut after cut after cut.
Build suspension through a long cut lasting several seconds. Allow the audience to actually take in the action instead of cutting to the next little clip after one or two strokes with the sabre has been unleashed.
The only long cut that was supposed to give actual suspension was the Rey vs Kylo sword push battle 2/3'rds in but that ends up looking really forced and lame due to the acting of the Rey girl as it looks like no force is being imparted on her at all. Kylo is good though. There's also no suspense on the first view of the movie because we have seen what this Rey chick can do, she seems to be a natural learner so we presume that she will make it out OK, and who could have guess, she does. So no suspense there either.
The whole darn thing was infected with so much Hollywood.
>>70414137
>Concentrate all your fire on the nearest ship
Here's wizened Jedi Master Yoda offering exactly the sort of sagely advice that clones grown and trained for the sole purpose of being military troops would need.
>Move all quadrants to sector 515.
wat
I bought it on blu-ray because I knew my nephew would love it.
Fuck you guys.
>HURR IS IT KINO?!?
Uh, no?
>>70419571
For some scenes, they were.
This movie was a lot of fun, was lucky to be back home with my parents to watch it
>Daisy returns from Death Star 3.0 with Finn on stretcher
>Leia comes to greet her
>my Dad: I told you to bring back my husband and my son and you bring me a NIGGER
I thought we'd be kicked out for sure
>>70413562
>ILM delivers you drop dead gorgeous vistas that will last forever
>put that in a window as a backdrop to your computer game graphics
>>70414468
I found plenty of good shots in Skyfall to be ruined by shoddy editing.
>>70416942
I liked that scene until she tried again and succeeded. As a joke I can forgive her practicing a technique she had no reason to know about but turning it in to a necessary plot point so she doesn't have to be saved by her friends was just bollocks.
>>70418222
Cuts are the fault of editing and direction not the choreographer, to be fair.
>>70412738
>Luke Skywalker went out for cigarettes and never came back
This is all I remember
>>70420710
Yeah, this is an American editing trend. Most cuts in action scenes are down to something absurd like an average of a whole second between them now. It honestly frustrates me to no end.
The choreography in TFA's final lightsaber duels is very nice. The cuts get obnoxious when Rey is fighting. They're tolerable with Finn. There's actually some decent framing through it all when the cuts aren't being spastic.
>>70420710
Yeah true. I just made the assumption that it was poor choreography that resulted in the abundance of cuts the fight had.
Still, until we get an extended and better cut fighting scene we'll never know if the choreography was good or just decent.
>>70414747
>turned it off multiple times it was so terrible, probably should finish it but it's so bad.
i did the exact same thing
>>70420806
>>70420710
I'll add that some of the short choreography cuts was alright but its the strange cuts that cause the actors to stand in different places and hold different postures than the one they did in the previous cut that makes me say that the choreography was bad, as in they relied on short bursts of movements and lots of cuts to make up for the fact that they couldn't(or didn't want to) choreograph a longer sequence.
That's what caused me to hold the opinion that the choreography was bad. But yeah, I agree with you. The fault lies with the editor, director and whomever else had any say in how the final cut came out.
>>70413562
"People fear what they don't understand."
>>70413910
>MEESA NO HAVE A BOOBA
I can almost hear it.
>>70420938
I'll add that some of the choreography in some of the cuts*
>>70414043
>Cherrypicking
>Climactic ending to 1/3 of the prequel trilogy
>Further implying that the other 2 sinned less
Coup de grace of irony:
>you can't tell me you took the emo whiny douche that is supposed to be the next 'vader' of the series seriously when all he did was throw temper tantrums and get beat in saber duels
Literally describes Anakin.
>>70421193
Not him but Anakin was being corrupted by the dark side as well as losing padme and all that so his frustration is understandable.
Kylo though. I have no idea why he was so upset.
Anakin was also beat by someone much stronger than him(Doku) as well as more tactical and in tune with the force(Obbi)
Rey just kind of learnt everything she had to with no difficulties because the plot demanded it of her.
>>70421335
>Kylo though. I have no idea why he was so upset.
He was being corrupted by the dark side and was getting cucked left and right pursuing Rey and the map.
>Anakin was also beat by someone much stronger than him
A strong fault of TFA is not making this clear enough, though there is exposition that covers it: Rey is far stronger in the force than him. He is emotionally unstable and has not yet fully embraced his training. You see that dinosaur Jedi in the prequels get his shit pushed in by Jango up on the balcony? Low level force users are fallible.
Like it or not, Rey is a natural and got lucky against a heavily distraught and wounded opponent. It's all fucking there. The movie isn't the greatest but you don't need to grasp so hard to try and knock it.
Well, originally it was the tale of the hero with nothing, climbing to fight the forces of evil.
With Rey, there was no climb and she just shitblasted the forces of evil. Mary Sue doesn't even begin to describe how she could pilot the MF like she lived in a starship.
JJ just went "BLEH, I HATE THIS SHIT SO MUCH JUST TRY AN AXPLAINIT!"
Dude, what the fuck were you doing? This was a media you loved.
>>70413445
>>70415321
PART TIME!
>>70421434
>He was being corrupted by the dark side and was getting cucked left and right pursuing Rey and the map.
Its these things i wish they expanded upon because on my first(and only) viewing these things were not made clear to me.. or perhaps the fault lies with me for not paying enough attention. Its just that the movie was all over the place so picking up on info and holding onto it gets quite hard when you have some kanji klob, scotsman and giant fucking space monster show up within minutes of each other.
I got the whole Rey is a natural thing as well but it was so forced that throughout the whole movie she just seemed like some unstoppable force.
Combine that with the little we know of her and it just makes for a very strange experience.
Hopefully it will be expanded upon in the newer instalments.
>>70421553
That's the two issues my mind harps on with TFA. They overstressed Rey's angle and in some ways undersold Kylo's. The basic structure is there though and I feel it works despite itself overall. Kylo actually fully embodies the sith code which I got a kick out of for what that was worth.
Basically Kylo and Rey are both self made people with insecurities. Kylo has embraced rage while Rey is clinging to hope. It's outright stated that Rey is stronger in the force than Kylo. Basically it's Liquid vs Solid Snake.
I fully expect for there to be a give and take between the two as they develop. I don't like a single movie being incomplete but I do hope for this now that TFA is what it is. It needs a sequel to knock Rey down a peg as Kylo rebounds.
>>70413445
What Alien film was this?
I didn't like it
>>70414480
Kylo shouldn't have been Force sensitive.
Shouldn't have been Han and Leia's son, for that matter.
>>70421620
>I read the comic books and now it makes sense!
Dude fuck off.
I shoudn't have to to have a comprehensive story.
>YOU DIDN'T READ-
No I didn't, and I should not have to you twat. We are not on /co/.
>>70421721
Didn't read the comics. Just watched the movie with my kids in theaters. Thanks for complimenting my ability to pay attention I guess.
>>70413910
>they don't understand the spirit of SW
>George Lucas doesn't understand the spirit of Star Wars, but I sure do!
Kill yourself, my man.
Guardians of the Galaxy is a better Star Wars movie than The Force Awakens.
>>70421752
Authors lose sight of their original vision all the time, Anon.
Guardians of the Galaxy is a better Star Wars than all the prequels, TFA, and half of ROTJ. Your point?
Would anybody say that this movie will be a lot better after all the characters get a lot more development in VII and IX, just like Civil War made Age of Ultron watchable?
>>70413617
He was such a retarded character whose only purpose was to make Finn not seem as useless as he was.
>Oh boy, I'll be sure to take this baton that can guard against a lightsaber with me on our raid on a space cantina, even though lightsabers are extremely rare and there's literally no indication a lightsaber is anywhere near our destination
>Oh, I was the only one to bring this baton with me?
>Yay, I was right, there was a lightsaber here, and it's wielded by a First Order deserter, what joy!
But I guess that's par for the course with JJ.
>>70421736
I bought it on bluray so I didn't have to hear "AWWW NIGGA DON'T STEP UP TO HAN SOLO AWWW NIGGA HE GOT STABBED."
What hell is this?
>>70421770
I think its their intent. I'm getting tired of movies not being complete packages. Fuck Harry Potter for starting this bullshit trend.
The prequels had better written characters than TFA
>Rey is conflicted about leaving Tatooine despite have no plausible reason to do so
>Finn transformation happens in the first scene of the film and lasts 30 seconds.
>We know virtually nothing about Rey and Finn when they first meet so Finn's lie has no consequence. The film gives the audience no reason to care that the lie jeopardises their relationship.
>Han acts the same as he did in A New Hope, despite the traumatic betrayal of his son
>>70415139
>but at least Disney has some of the best quality control
Hahhahahahahahaha
>>70421871
Harrison Ford wanted out of that piece of shit.
Disney is really riding the money dick into the ground as usual. Where good films go to die.
>>70414421
>lets wait until the droids are done slowly activating and attack us before we do anything
>we are a race of lake dwellers with shield generators who live in a swamp, there is a swamp 100 meters behind us, lets meet the droid army in an open field
this entire scene was completely retarded
I'd rather not repeat what's been pounding on and on throughout this thread, but it is true that what most annoyed me by the movie is that it was clearly all gauged to be a box-office success which "gratifies" the older fans by providing them with an exact copy to New Hope.
The characters are also meh.
And beyond that, no intensity is ever experienced in the movie. Somehow it attempts to portray the First Order's strength with them annihilating an entire star system, but seems to me that everyone in the theater was underwhelmed. That same issue applies to the trench run by the end of the movie where there seem to be barely any stakes...
But let me give special praise to what most annoyed me:
So as I was merrily watching the trailers for the movie, it did become pretty apparent that the movie would basically repeat 'A New Hope' but I wasn't too annoyed because, I'd expected that anyways. But those unsubtle traces of pandering were pretty much compensated by what seemed to be promises for newer elements; the Knights of Ren, Kylo's backstory, that female stormpower.
And in watching the movie, what am I gifted with: ABSOLUTELY NO KNIGHTS OF REN SCENE EXCEPT IN A FLASHBACK LASTING AS LONG AS THE FUCKING TRAILER
NO FUCKING KYLO BACSTORY
JUST SO THE MOVIE CAN SPEED US INTO AN UNINTERESTING RESISTANCE (Rebels) vs FIRST ORDER (empire) STORY
AND THE STORMPOWER SERVED NO FUCKING PURPOSE AT ALL OTHER THAN TO SELL TOYS
>>70414480
>Kylo is actually an amazing fresh character.
Zuko/Loki 2.0 and "whiny vaguely sympathetic villain that tumblr gets wet over and insists dindu nuffin wrong" trope. So fresh and exciting.
>>70413910
>Jedi wore Farmer Robes
You will eternally be a retard.
>>70415215
he's still a better Anakin than Anakin himself
