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BvS Ultimate Cut trailer analysis
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Some pretty juicy bits in this trailer DCbros

>Scenes in Africa
Seems to be a huge change. We see the aftermath, KGbeast with the setup (flamethrower) Superman stopping the missile. This sequence seems massively improved and should now be clearer as to its intent and importance to the film

>Superman after the bombing
We see Superman having helped the survivors before leaving. Helps to alleviate those criticisms of Superman not caring.

>Clarke in Gotham
Seems will help a lot to inform Clarke's opinion on Batman and how people in Gotham feel about his new crueler ways

>Jena Malone
Still no clue who she is

Overall it seems this Ultimate Cut will massively improve Superman and Clarke's character as well as the overall it threads that surround him.
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>shows Superman saving people in Africa from Lex's drones, caring about human life
>shows Superman being framed/unable to absolve himself of guilt since bodies get burned, becoming jaded by world's unfairness
>shows Superman helping survivors at Congress bombing, being remorseful of his actions
>shows Clark investigating Batman and becoming increasingly resentful of him for his brutality, explaining why he doesn't try to reason with him


WWHY THE FUCK CUT THIS THIS IS LITERALLY MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS I READ ABOUT THIS FLICK

WHY DO THEY DO THIS ZACK SNYDER
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>>70374145
runtime
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>>70374145

Cuz FUCK Superman
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http://screenrant.com/batman-v-superman-ultimate-cut-response/
>Batman V Superman Cinematographer Says Ultimate Cut Won’t Change Minds
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I'm glad it finally shows Clark being competent at his job (a reporter) and gradually forming an opinion about Batman. He was a joke in the theatrical version.
>B-But vigilantism's wrong!
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>>70374288
Good thing I'm in the latter category then. And does Evans ever shave outside his movies?
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I'm not anti-Snyder but this is probably going to be Watchmen all over again. The directors cut was advertised as adding new content when in reality, the scenes were filler at best. They added nothing to the movie. It will probably be the same thing with this. Everyone will expect much needed exposition but we won't get that. Just more montages and probably about 5mins of actual content.
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>>70374669
It's not the exposition that's needed but more scenes to help smooth out the pacing of the film so it isn't unnaturally choppy like the theatrical version (for example, some of Lex's scenes seem to appear out of order). Also more development for Clark/Superman so the story doesn't feel like it's fellating Batman the entire time.
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>>70374029
Nobody likes bvs/mos because its heavy handed symbolism makes it feel like ur being indoctrinated into a cult. Its more boring than church. The more you try explain it the more you sound like a brony defending his paedophilia.

More explaining isnt the answer. 20 extra minutes wont explain doomsday or wonderjew, or why superman got a hobo funeral.
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>>70374669
>>70375278
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>>70375278
>church is boring
Only if you're a filthy heathen.
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>>70374029
>KGbeast with the setup (flamethrower)
Burning victims to make it seem plausible Supes heat-visioned them to death? SAY IT AIN'T SO!


WHO COULD HAVE POSSIBLY GUESSED SUCH A THING?
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>>70374029
Superman exiting the Capitol after the explosion looks interesting
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>>70375278
yeah bro that's definitely why people hated it. Knocked the nail right on the head. Because normies totally pick up on and care about that stuff.
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>>70374288
This. You're still getting "No one stays good in this world" Supes, bat jesus, special bullets conspiracy, piss of jar, drowning horses and Lex. The bad will outweigh any litte improvement the extra scenes may give . You girls are setting yourselves up for another second fresh review situation desu.
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>>70377484
And what if it turns out those special bullets were, in fact, k-tech-inspired and being field-tested by Alex's guys at the behest of the government as a possible deterrent against Supes?

LexCorp did already have access to some of the salvaged k-tech and weaponry, not to mention Zod's abandoned drop-ship.
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>>70377484
>>70377683
Both of you are CANCER. movies aren't about contrieved plots and exhaustively explaining every detail. Cinema is about transmiting ideas and feelings to the spectators.

Atmosphere and visuals are everything. Plot is just a vehicle, and a necessary evil.
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>>70377683
But why would the guy that can shoot lasers from his eyes bother to use special tech? shit even makes his rampange more blatant. This sounds better >>70375782
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>>70377829
It's called world-building, faggot.
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>>70378017
The bullets probably weren't to frame him. They were probably testing them to see if they could hurt him. Hopefully, the extended scenes will make that more clear.
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Requestan webm of the security footage of Bats raiding Lexcorp where he drops down from the ceiling and just fucking abducts a guard
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>>70374029
"Men like that, words don't stop him! You know what stops him? A fist!"
>stopped by the word Martha
Bravo.
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>>70375278
> a cult
"Cult" is a single syllable word small minded people use to describe a visionary and his followers.
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>>70374145
You know what? These scenes would make the movie make more sense, but will deepen the movie's most fatal flaw: It's a dark, depressing, miserable experience. You want dark? Fine. But it better mean something. There better be some depth or emotional resonance. BvS had no emotional resonance and all it's depth it's plebian.
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>>70374145
>>shows Superman saving people in Africa from Lex's drones, caring about human life
Jesus that's like 15 minutes.

But are you telling me they had an entire scene of Superman fighting Lexcorp Predator drones, mercenaries and gueralla fighters and then African Queen Mumbabi and the rest of the world still blames him without mentioning anything else?
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>>70379454
She was paid off.
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>>70378356
She was referring to Superman, not Batman
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>>70374392
he said he is more confertable with beard
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Am i the only one thinks Jena Malone's character looks so hot
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I want a fucking good copy
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>>70375278
People hate the movie because it's a fucking chore to watch.
It's really boring.
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>>70374029
I wonder if superman will get two nails up through his hands, perhaps he will have some sort of last meal with all of his news friends, maybe he will discover a new power where he turns soda into coco.

I'm also hoping for a scene where it shows the Martha's meeting up when they were young and doing Catty insane things!
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>>70375278
kek that pic
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>>70378927
More like a three syllable for an idea that thinks it is fit for big minds
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>>70375278
Can you tell me why spiderman or antman or hawkeye were in the airport fight scene? what would zemo do if police had killed bucky? why does tony stark suddenly care about some nigger's opinion? what would zemo do if tony didn't go to that bunker? how can some random guy access top level security defence agency like it's nothing ? why are there 1421412 angle shots w/ shaky cam in 5 second in fight scenes? why does serious tone transform into quipfest in milliseconds, civil war had so many problems but people don't give a shit, they praise marvel even though they release same generic garbage cashgrab movie three times a year.
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>nightmare sequences allowed to continue
>weren't allowed to show basic motivation

The fucj
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>>70374029
Too bad it will not remove that disgusting twink kike Juden Eisenshekelberg. Therefore the flick will remain utter shit. Also Doomsday was Green Lantern levels of shit and then there is Auschwitz Woman.
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>>70374029
A shits a shit no matter how much you polish it
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>>70377829
Shut up, Zack! Your movie sucked shitdick and is beyond redemption.
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>>70374145
exactly my thoughts, this trailer should have been for the theatrical release.
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>And so falls the House of Usher
What did he mean by this?
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>>70377484
I didn't have a problem with the scenes themselves, it was how choppily edited and rushed they came across, because they were.

This cut adds upon all the scenes that abruptly ended.
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>>70375278
>why superman got a hobo funeral
wut? superman got all that shit in metropolis for his funeral

Clark got his mother and family friends in Smallville

what are you fucking gay
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>>70379289
This is the worst meme I've ever seen. To sit there and type out what you just did can only be explained by you being systematically brainwashed to think only what others tell you to think. Or you're trolling. One of the two.
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>>70378927
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
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>>70375278
>that pic
>implying DC friends are insecure and need validation from self employed housewives and glorified bloggers
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>>70383976
>Inb4 'you can take a jar of piss and call it Granny's peach tea'
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>>70384324
House of WAYNE
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May actually buy this. I loved the Watchmen Ultimate Cut.
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>>70383942
http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/lex-luthor-explained/
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>>70378038
>world building
>>/v/
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>>70380635
>its boring

its literally not boring at all.
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>>70374145
Studio did this. This is what Snyder said he wanted to release in theaters until the studio forced cuts
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>>70385994
They hate us..... Because..... They ain't us!
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>>70379946
Why would she be referring to Superman during Clark Kent's investigation on Batman? It even has a GCPD car in the background.
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>>70374029
im pretty hyped tbqh, ever extended cut Snyder does is way better than the theatrical cut.
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>>70383942
Villains are supposed to be disgusting. Looks like he's doing his job.
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>>70378038
>films should just be documentaries of fictional universes

Fuck off.
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>>70388192
>there's only one style of film!
>stop liking what I don't like!
Don't like it, don't watch it.
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>people complaining about character's lack of motivation when there's scenes of characters actively explaining their motivation to other characters
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>>70374145

so let's take into context what Snyder's task are. He is given a task to create a movie that:

1) create an origin movie for Justice League
a) this will include scenes and character development for Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman
b) have the 3 team up to serve as a basis for Justice League - obviously this has to be a super villain since how can stand against 3 superheroes?
c) have that super villain be engineered by human to serve its origin and for connecting with the human personas of Superman and Batman

2. have a continuity to Superman's actions after the Man of Steel 0 this includes the political aspects of having an uncontrollable god exist in the presence of humans and its spiritual implications as well

3. Introduce Batman and relate him to Superman

4. Be distincly different from Marvel movies. tackle the serious side of having heroes within among us and let the people think


Given this ginormous task, its amazing how Snyder was able to make it all work in his film. To cover all this points would take about 4 - 4 1/2 hours and I feel that if given the freedom Snyder would have done it so. A task of this magnitude would have failed Kubrick but Snyder has done it, although we admit this is not his best work but I would have loved to see what he could have done in a 4 hour epic Director's cut of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice ™
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>>70388430
Too busy texting during the movie to pay attention. It has to be said multiple times in multiple different scenes, just like other movies.
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>>70388465
Aside from Lex's one great monologue it IS though
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>>70388449
I really liked the movie, but is there any reason for him to use Doomsday instead of Bizarro other than a reference to Death of Superman?
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>>70388507

can't answer that question but most likely Bizarro is planned for another storyline.
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>>70388507
It should have been Metallo tbqh
>fits the theme better
>less CG
>already had room to do this without shoehorning it because they tease Metallo for MOS2
the only problem would be Wonder Woman because she would be too OP against him
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You can add in the new scenes just get rid of all the slow mo shots and the run time will even be shorter than the original cut.
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>There's a new kind of mean in him: He's a big guy and he's hunting.
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>>70388678
Citation needed.
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>>70388584

How does Metallo fit the theme better? I'm not judging just curious.
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>yfw ut turns out to be a masterpiece and all those YouTube """"""critics"""""" end up looking like stupid fucks who try to get paid by making fun of the work of others.
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>>70388739
about men vs monsters and gods
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>>70388831
Well I only listen to geniuses who make movies like Space Cops, truly the Citizen Kane of our time
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>>70388831
They looked so juvenile during their BvS review.
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>>70388831
I kinda dropped the video after Rich started talking about how nothing made sense and pointless action and "MUH MISERABLE EXPERIENCE"
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Why the hell do they insist on making extended cuts in movies? They announce that the blue-ray will include 30+minutes of additional scenes days before the release of the movie and expect me to go and watch that shitfest anyway? Why the fuck would I want to watch half a movie with many important scenes missing, instead of downloading the extended cut when it comes out?
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>>70388968
And then Rich and aids-man released a video to make fun of it even more. Even though their thing is videogames.
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>>70388968
>>70388926
>we need escapism
>god forbid we forget about 9/11 for a couple hours
>SUPERMAN NEEDS TO SMILE
what ever happened to reviewing a movie as it is intended to be seen? I mean BvS is far from a perfect film, but they reviewed it so horribly
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>>70389027
Because runtime, stupid.

>Shitfest

You type like someone under 25.
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>The bloated, horribly edited film gets even longer! It'll be a masterpiece!

Whatever you idiots say.
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>>70389059
All they did was laugh at every scene and laugh at their own jokes.
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>>70389100
You disliking this film doesn't bother anyone.
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>>70389059
Imagine doing this for every serious movie. In fact, I'm going to do this for Schindler's List. WHERE ARE THE QUIPS?
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>>70389115
I don't trust critics for even novel reviews because basically anyone can do it now over actually learning how to critique properly. It because nothing but manchildren with a camera and mic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTKDtoBR-2M
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>>70389175
Well, look at fucking watchmen. The tone is constantly overshadowed by threat of nuclear annihilation in the whole film, making even happy moments dour. Getting upset at that, when it comes off as intentional is retarded.
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>>70386945
this shit is brilliant !!!
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>>70389257
http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/42-understanding-lex-luthor
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Can someone explain to me why do you get hyped by ANYTHING this hack makes? He butchered the characterization, and he thinks that he can make anything deep and meaningful if he slaps some christian symbolism in it.How the fuck do people swallow that shit and ask for more? The only one who actually gave a fuck about his character was Affleck, and he still couldn't save that shitwreck.
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>>70389311
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>>70389311
You didn't get the movie. Try training your brain and watch it again later.
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>>70389311
Baseless Internet complaint number 46426743
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>>70389311
>not muh comic characters!
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>>70389311
Watch it again when you're over the age of 25. Not a day sooner.
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Calling it now: This will be like the cinematic versus final cut of bladerunner.

Pure kino. 10/10. One of the greatest movies of all time.
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>I DON'T WANT TO BE REMINDED ABOUT HOW EUROPE IS DYING

>JUST LET ME CLOSE MY EYES AND BLOCK MY EARS HOLLYWOOD JEZUS :(((((
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>>70389434
one can hope...
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That trailer was fucking incredible. Every character was saying the themes the fucking plebs on this board couldn't grasp.
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>>70389434
Blade Runner is trash though you entry level imdb drone
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>>70389084
So it's my fault that he can't make a single point with his movie in 2+ hours? Oh I forgot. He was supposed to actually make a couple more movies before BvS but WB cucked him in attempt to compete with Marvel.
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>>70389460
Fuck that flabby failure seriously. He has shit taste in movies. Everything sucks unless it's some old monster movie shit that you wish you directed instead of space cop. We get it. Everything is schlock.
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>>70374029
Which version will be canon though? The theatrical cut or the Ultimate cut?
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>>70389521
He made several points. Your millenial mind couldn't grasp any of them. Stick to "get the magic stone" and "stop the bad guy" plots.
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>>70389084
BvS already feels overlong and too long at 2.5 hours. It needs an entirely new cut, not just adding more to the bloat

Wonder Woman, Doomsday, and all the future vision shit shouldnt have been in this movie, period.
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>an ultimate cut this quickly instead of a few years of editing and cutting the perfect film
Confirmed for anti art trash commissioned only to make some extra cash
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>>70389311
There's no characterization to butcher. Batman/Superman were accurate... to at least one of their dozen different comic counterparts.
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>>70389390
Oh. I get it. I'm supposed to watch it when my movie tastes turn to shit.
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Why did Lex want Batman dead? Did he know it was Bruce Wayne? If so, was it Bruce he wanted dead and not Batman? Was he expecting Batman to win the fight? What was his plan if Batman lost? What the fuck was his plan?
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>>70389588
You don't know movies.
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>>70389175
Except BvS is about a man who dresses as a bat , and a man with laser eyes flying in a cape. The source material is made for 10 year old boys in the 40ties by people who didnt give a shit about quality. You cant make a philosophical piece of cinema with such a shitty background
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>>70389653
Post your top 10 films of all time

Try not to pretend that you don't have a list because its "pleb" either you child of /v/
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>>70389635
Watch the movie.
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>>70389588
"Too much content!" What kind of weird complaint is this? Who gets angry at having more stuff? It's not like they executed it poorly.
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>>70389635
You aren't supposed to know what his plan was because he is a literal genius.

This is the power of capekino.
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>>70389588
Kingdom of of Heaven was also very long in its theatrical version yet most would agree the director's cut was an improvement in every way.
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>>70389588
top 10 movies, now
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>>70389686
http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/42-understanding-lex-luthor
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>>70389683
They DID execute it poorly. Wonder Woman has no reason to be there whatsoever. They stop the movie to show teasers for the Justice League. The africa bullet subplot ultimately amounts to nothing. Doomsday is just there for a big bloated CGI setpiece.

The movie should have been focused on an ideological battle of wills between Batman and Superman. Instead it throws in a bunch of hamfisted setups for later movies that detracts from the core themes of the movie.
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>>70389595
The ultimate cut was made before theatrical
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>>70389686
>http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/lex-luthor-explained/
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>>70389666
Film was made as a way of documenting day-to-day shit like trains and crosswalks. You can't make a philosophical piece with such shitty origins.
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>>70389635
He stole the Kryptonite, and was a general menace to his efforts to obtain it early in the film? Plus I think at this point Batman had already established quite a reputation around Gotham and abroad.
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>>70389748
Sure
1. Dead Man's Letters (1986, Lopushansky)
2. A Man Escaped (1956, Bresson)
3. Guns of The Trees (1961, Mekas)
4. Berlin Alexanderplatz (1980, Fassbinder)
5. Closely Watched Trains (1966, Menzel)
6. The Great White Silence (1924, Ponting)
7. Syndromes and a Century (2006, Weerasethakul)
8. My Night at Maud's (1969, Rohmer)
9. The Color of Pomegranates (1968, Parajanov)
10. Lucky Star (1929, Borzage)

How about you, fetus?
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>>70387960
I'm betting she's not referring to either one of them, directly. She's giving Clark the Gotham perspective on the Batman and what he does. He speaks a language the criminals understand - asskicking.
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>>70389635
http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/lex-luthor-explained/
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>>70389794
Cape comics are for children as are cape movies. Its not an insult just a fact. BvS should have just been a family friendly movie instead of Zack masturbating to objectivist philosophy
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>>70389844
shit taste
consider suicide underage
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>>70389887
god forbid someone wants to do something different
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>>70389677
>nothing

As expected from a superhero plebeian trying to pretend he knows something about art.
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>>70389887
Lying won't make your argument any stronger, buddy.
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>>70389311

>Implying that the Christ imagery was just slapped on

It was an integral part of Clark's characterisation, he finds that all of a sudden he's been thrust into a messianic role that he neither wants or encourages. The implications that people worship him, along with failing to save people at the hearing in DC are the pressures that drive him away from being a hero, and he only eventually comes back because he comes to terms with his own will to be a hero rather than feeling forced into it because he thinks it's his destiny. He truly becomes a man rather than a Messiah with that choice, and at the same time releases himself from the burden of trying to save everyone (note the Atlas-like pose of his first monument) and be willing to ask for Batman's help rather than just destroying him.
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>>70388483
Lex's one great monologue is him spouting whatever bullshit he thinks will scare Superman the most. In this case, it's that a dangerously unbalanced lunatic is going to kill his mom unless he does what he's told.

Lex's true motives and true plan are never stated. They're only shown.
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>>70389844
how do you feel, knowing that you are diagnosably retarded?
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>>70389844
topkek/10
I can't believe you unironically exist
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>>70379289
>You know what? These scenes would make the movie make more sense, but will deepen the movie's most fatal flaw: It's a dark, depressing, miserable experience. You want dark? Fine. But it better mean something.
I agree. These additions sounds like they'll make for a better - and yet even less enjoyable - movie.
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>>70389924
>H-he missed his cue to argue with me
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>>70389892
What didn't you like about Mauds journey with Blanchet? It's literally referenced in BvS too
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>>70388507
If it was bizarro I'd have jizzed in my pants

Maybe have him start off normal talking to lex and over the film slowly transform into bizarro
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>>70389924
someone did though, you're right though he's pleb tier
see>>70389844
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>>70389921
At least when they try and do something different they should try and make it good.
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>>70389998
>the /sp/ mobile posting child porn spammer is a superhero drone too
yikes
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>literally one good film on the list
holy fucking shit
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>Implying that WB wanted anything more that fast forwarding JLA 4 movies before it's time.


>Snyder my man! How about you save us a few years and hastily set up a movie that makes no sense but brings us to Justice League sooner?
>Do I get to add Christian Symbolism?
>Sure,whatever.
>Say no more!
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>>70389844
>someone liked these abortions
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>>70389844
pp-p-pretentious hipster bullshit!!;((
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>>70389844
today is opposite day...right anon?
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>>70389844
>someone thinks Lucky Star and Berlin Alexanderplatz is good
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>lmao he used Christian symbolism. He thinks he's SOO deep.

I hear this all the time yet none of you elaborate on how it's NOT deep. Just because?
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>>70389844
>list of pretentious """""""""""""""""""""films"""""""""""""""""""" and maud
10/10 list. did you show your wife's son these movies yet?
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>>70389844
>all these upset replies
THE RUMORS ARE TRUE
DC PLEBS REALLY ARE NEWSHITS
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>>70390087
>>70390150

>being this triggered
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>>70389952
http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/lex-luthor-explained/
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>>70389844
this is nothing like the movies we watch
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>>70389844
are you memeing right now?
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>>70389635
Plan A is Clark killing Bruce. It's what completes his frame job of turning Superman into an "alien threat" that he and other good "patriotic citizens of Earth" can hunt down and kill, either him or Doomsday - that's his true win/win.
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>>70390166
>14624xxxxx frogshit
I'm actually triggered now
Is there anyone left on this board that didn't start posting here after 2014?
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>>70390178
>>70390087
>>70390150
>>70389844
it's time to stop posting and go back to /reddit/ anon. you revealed yourself
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>I don't like Batman v Superman.
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>>70390006
huh i guess you didn't see any of them then lmao
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>>70390234
>triggered baby is mad that his pretentious films are getting called out
>deflects at pepe
newfag pls go
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>>70389844
>this list
>unironically
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>>70390123
If you just re-enact bible imagery instead of subtly add it to the context of the movie it's anything BUT deep. There's nothing brilliant about it.Snyder's influence probably came from the 90's when adding christian allegories to your movie was all the rage, because it was controversial, taboo, daring etc. But that was 20 years ago. Now it's just cheap and overdone.
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Бля, нy вы и тyпыe нaхyй.
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>>70390275
>clearly a newfrog
>any of those entry level movies
>>pretentious
Keep digging that hole 146xxx newfrog
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>>70389844
>only good movie is Maud
>literally one good movie
>top ten
jesus
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>>70389769
This. From what I read (before the movie came out) the ultimate cut WAS the version originally meant for cinemas but WB got greedy and wanted more showings per day so it got hastily recut at the last minute.

I will say that Zack Snyder has a problem with length but cutting his movies short usually just makes things worse, not better. If anything he needs to be restrained at the preproduction level (which seems to what's happening on Justice League pt.1), if hired at all.
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>>70389844
why does the post count keep going up but not the number posters?
have bvs babbies been curbstomped into submission again?
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>>70390238
>he doesn't deny samefagging out of being triggered
holy fucking shit
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>>70390342
So because you don't like it. Got it.
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>>70390393
he's samefagging replies to his own post
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>>70390378
Adding 30 minutes on the dvd isnt going to save a movie thats broken at the fundamental level
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These are my favorite movies and I loved BvS

Am I okay?
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>>70389924
>>70390014
Serious question for you guys: why aren't you off discussing what qualifies as a great film to you instead of . . .

Oh wait, that's right. It's much harder to come off as an intellectual snob when you're not taking swipes at the low-hanging fruit, isn't it?
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>>70390431
>le broken on a fundamental level
reddit/10
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>>70389311
>under and not over for his toilet paper
What's wrong with him?
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>>70390123
Because it's a meme they repeat over and over. There is no argument it's just an insane repetition of something intended to aggravate sane people.
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>>70390433
http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/42-understanding-lex-luthor
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>>70390436
because they want to derail threads
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>>70390398
sorry newfrog, but I only samefag when it comes to getting this board split into /tv/ and /film/
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>>70390433
at least you aren't pretentious
to answer if you are okay, i dont fucking know or care
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>>70390483
>samefagging
>gets called on it
>LOL NO I DONT
jesus stop it
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>>70390431
That remains to be seen, because unlike a lot of movies this "extended cut" isn't really a superflous extra, but the original version. I'm not even a Snyder supporter.
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>>70390433
good list anon. true /tv/ poster spotted
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>>70390436
When plebs step up to other plebs the tastemakers must defend the plebs better than the turboplebs
In this case the turbo pleb is >>70389653 and the pleb is >>70389588

Our ''elitism'' (as the insecure state so oft) is merely inherent from our ciniphilic nature and want for a better board with a better community. We mean not to startle and insult those below us, but one must pave the path ahead with the blood of the common man. And that is you.
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>>70389921
If you want to do something different snyder dick sucker use brand new characters.
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>>70390433
Good list
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>>70390518
what's wrong? is posting who the fans of this flick really are not a good thing for your anti /tv/ cause?
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>>70390577
BvS is shit anon. stop pretending like it isn't you pretentious swine
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Look how much we're discussing this as opposed to civil war. Checkmate.
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>>70390527
An addendum to that; part of the evidence is that deleted Steppenwolf scene which featured finished effects work rather than usual previs.
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>>70390433
The hallmarks of the tasteless and the uninitiated. It's okay if you're just getting into the medium, but there are some (even here, on a so called ''film'' board) that actually believe they are cultured or have a snippet of taste because they like these movies, when in actuality they are nothing more than embarrassing cringeworthy copy/paste babbies with no opinion on the medium they claim to love whatsoever.

For a cinephile like myself, it is truly disgusting to watch, and the main reason I, and many others, steer far away from this pit of despair and depravity.
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>>70390643
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>>70390342
>>70390452
All the religious imagery is there to convey a message other than "Superman = Space Jesus," It's mankind's unconscious deification of the "man in the sky." More to the point, he's presented as multiple types of deity over the course of both films - a sky god, a savior god, and a sun god.

Lex even names two solar deities during his monologue.
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>>70390643
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>>70389939
I could accept any of those points,but the thing is he didn't seem bothered from people dying in the first place: not in BvS and certainly not in MoS. He doesn't say nearly enough or show any guilt or remorse as Superman would.
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>>70390613
what? I never said it was good.
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>>70390677
Wasting your time. These people are stupid.
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>>70390692
Superman clearly showed remorse stop talking out your ass.
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>>70390365
See >>70390006
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>>70390695
>BvS is good!!!
>post top ten
>shit 10
>gets triggered
>bvs is shit
>n-no i-i-i-i-i-it isn't good anon
at least stand with your posts you faggot. I have more respect for DCucks that admit it over you now you pretentious idiot
>inb4 i didn't say that
common cuck response when found out
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>>70390677
And Superman's far from the only person to receive this sort of treatment. He's just the only who receives it so overtly.
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>>70390759
>only good movie is maud
>WHY DIDNT YOU LIKE IT
?
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>>70390692
Well he didn't personally and intentionally kill a lot of those people so there's not much to feel guilty for besides his own existence as a trouble magnet.
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http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/lex-luthor-explained/
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>>70390768
can you link these posts in order?
I'd really like to see where this happened and who you think I am you pretending not be a capeshit fan
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>>70390799
Have you seen it?
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>>70388449
"Is it really surprising that the most powerful man in the world should be a figure of controversy?"
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>>70390876
>le link them
they already are you worm
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>>70390643
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>>70390342
>instead of subtly add it to the context of the movie
Is that even possible?
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It's pitiful how much you people try to defend something so unforgivably bad. But it's okay. I know that you'd be too embarrassed to defend it in public.
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>Our ''elitism'' (as the insecure state so oft) is merely inherent from our ciniphilic nature and want for a better board with a better community.

pic related
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>>70390960
can you hurry up and stop beating around the bush? stop pretending youre on the fence too
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>>70391092
>GUYS GUYS! LOOK HOW COOL I AM FOR DISLIKING THIS THING YOU LIKE!
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>>70391025
>>70391073
>>70391119
www.manofsteelanswers.com/lex-luthor-explained
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>>70391092
>mfw I converted some friends to Snyderology
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>>70391103
hey is that the board that was opened early by swaglord because the idea of a board full of people that laughed at him when he showed up here as invisi made him insecure??
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>Devil painting in the back
>Hell hound statues
>Trojan horse
Zack we get it, he's evil you don't have to paint horns on him.
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>>70391257
It's his father room untouched
http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/lex-luthor-explained
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>>70374288

I think his point was less "it does nothing to make the film better", and more "if you hated it, then there probably isn't much we can do to change that"

I'm sure this cut clears up a few things. That wont stop the bashing though.
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>>70391235
You're not alone. It was fun watching their "HOLY SHIT" moments when it all clicked into place.
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>>70391168
How is what you're doing any different from what you accuse me of?
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>>70391168
do you think batman and superman dawn of justice could make the cut? we know who the fans are and stuff too so
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>>70391257
Mmmmmm, that's not what that means fampamalam.

The "helldogs" are actually simurghs, think griffins but with dog features. It was believed that they purified the lands and waters.

The white horse that's broken is symbolic for for Lex's state of mind. He thinks he's the good guy who's broken because of his damaged childhood.

He blatantly explains what the painting means in the movie itself so it surprises me that you even got that wrong.

0/3 and people should take you serious why?
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>>70391134
hey friend I gotta go so just link them and then I'll reply on ghost and we can continue this there
thanks and remember to do a better job at pretending to be someone on the fence next time
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Apologize
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>>70391092
I'm not a comics reader but I thought it was a pretty good action flick. Maybe people were attached to a particular version of those characters? I don't care much about superheroes in general so I have no frame of reference for how things are "supposed" to be.
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>>70379289
>BvS had no emotional resonance and all it's depth it's plebian.
I almost fucking teared up at the ending scene with "If you seek his monument, look around you." No emotional resonance, my ass.
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>>70391697
>And all dem people standing vigil

It got me too, as did Clark telling Lois, "You are my world," and her understanding what he was about to do.
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>>70390692
Watch the movies again and pay more attention to Superman this time.
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>>70391697
What about when Supes said: "No one stays good in this world."

Gave me chills.
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>>70391897
The one that keeps coming back to me is, "I didn't see it, Lo. I didn't see it because I wasn't looking,"

When you go back and watch the bombing scene, he can't bring himself to do more than glance at Wally, because he feels so guilty about what happened to him.
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>>70391235
>>70391335
The memepost that it would be a "classic in 20 years" is wrong. It'll take only a few months to get everyone to realize that BvS was a masterpiece. Just keep fighting, like Superman and Batman, against injustice.
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>>70374029
Whose that nigger supposed to be?
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>>70392548

Just a dude Clark interviews in Gotham
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>>70392328
I told someone on here the other day that Superbros are like the X-Men of /tv/ - fighting for a righteous cause in a world that fears and hates us.
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>>70392328
>It'll take only a few months to get everyone to realize that BvS was a masterpiece
t. mo/v/ie buff that doesn't understand cinema
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>>70391697
Literally only sociopaths didn't have emotional resonance. The part which I felt the most was when Batman, after Superman got nuked, did not even hesitate to say "I've got to take it back to the city" in order to get the kryptonite spear. It really felt like in that moment he was the only hero left on earth.
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They should cut the fucking JUSTice league trailers, that's the worst part of the movie since it feels like an after-credits scene but put into the fucking movie.
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>>70374029
fuck off capeshit shill.
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>>70374145
Clark saved people in Man of Steel. He's cared about saving others since the first fucking movie.
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>>70392772
Unflinching resolve. I loved it.
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>>70374029

Maybe we'll see more of Mercy Graves because I didn't see her do enough to really capture the character of Mercy. I don't remember that she did much besides be Asian.
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>>70392792
I hope it's relocated. I think it will be, not necessarily to after-credits, but where it was in the theatrical cut is really disruptive.

It needs to stay in, though.
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>>70392921

She caught Bruce being "drunk" down in the server room
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>>70392792
> it feels like an after-credits scene but put into the fucking movie.

Based Snyder doesn't make you sit through credits.

THANK YOU LORD SNYDER, BRINGER OF CAPEKINO, BREAKER OF PLEBEIANS, FATHER OF THE UBERMENSCHEN
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>>70392672
>>70392709
"But why endure a lone crusade, fight a fight you just can't win? If asked the Bat would tell you, 'someone's gotta stand up to all this sin.'"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=enpCr4HQK08
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>>70374029
>250 posts
>only 70 posters
so when will the BvS was good meme end? When 1.jpgfag finally kills himself?
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>>70392982
That picture's hawt.
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>>70392982
HE REALLY LOVES ME!
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>>70389588
>and all the future vision shit shouldnt have been in this movie, period.

No! I thought the future stuff brought the movie up to the next level. Some of the payoff is delayed, but they're building a universe. This is what people praise Marvel for doing, yet they've still done way too little to convince me that Thanos poses a significant threat to Earth. After BvS though, I know that something is coming that could fill the world with horror. It's just too bad they didn't leave that communion scene in the theatrical cut.
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>>70391073
he doesn't destroy metropolis. They contain him
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>>70393045
People usually reply to other posters. If, say, 70 people had 3 posts each, then it would be 210 posts. First time on 4chan, buddy?
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