>Some crew initially heard J.J. Abrams was supervising the reshoots.
>Gareth Edwards is doing the reshoots himself but with a partner, Christopher McQuarrie.
>Christopher McQuarrie, the final writer on Rogue One will be working extensively with Edwards onset to make sure they’re on the “same page” with the most recent draft of the film.
>Christopher McQuarrie’s draft of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story was considered superior to the film they shot previously.
>It was not Edwards’ fault as McQuarrie’s draft wasn’t completed when much of the film was shot and revisions kept coming in that made the film feel uneven.
>32 sets have been recreated for the reshoot.
>The crew expects they are reshooting 40% of the film.
>They are working 6 days a week for 8 weeks.
http://makingstarwars.net/2016/06/how-extensive-will-the-rogue-one-reshoots-be/
>Hey you can't go alone, we are a team!
>Not this time, i have to go.......Rogue
It's Star Wars, it'll sell, shit or not
>>70358111
She looks like the store-brand Gemma Arterton
>>70358181
Yeah but then you look at flicks like Thor 2, Iron Man 3 and they are regarded as shit movies even by the fans.
If Star Wars movies flop critically, it can damage the IP. And that`s what they want to avoid.
>>70358244
> it can damage the IP
Worse than Phatom Menace?
>>70358111
sounds like a lot of bullshit rumors to me, apart from the length of reshoots. i also call into question a script for a film of this magnitude and by this completely hands on company was not finished months before shooting began. that's not how the mouse does things. i have worked on Disney co-productions with a tenth of the budget of a Star Wars film and EVERYTHING they do is run through committee before it's greenlit.
>>70358441
Yeah, but Hollywood execs are also notoriously reactionary.
In the past couple months, we've seen an over hyped juggernaut of a comic book movie with a dark, brooding tone barely break even. At the same time, we saw a small, under-hyped, but light-hearted comic movie shatter box office expectations.
Concurrently, Alice II just shit the bed, The Good Dinosaur flopped, and compared to Deadpool, you could argue that Civil War has underperformed. Hell, I'd even argue that TFA underperformed seeing as it how they clearly went into it looking to beat Avatar and came out barely able to beat Titanic in terms of overall grosses. It was still a massive hit, but in that light, it may well have left hundreds of millions (or billions) on the table in the eyes of Disney execs.
In this era of ever-increasingly big budgets and marketing campaigns, a flop and an under-performer can leave you hundreds of millions in the hole and negate the box office returns of 2 or 3 hits.
Now with all signs pointing to Warcraft and Apocalypse underperforming, it's looking to be another cool year at the box office, and fans may be finally growing tired of more capeshit, which likely has Disney scared shitless, since Marvel is their cash cow. The lustre also seems to have faded from Pixar, and the days of their films being reliable blockbusters died back in 2010 or so.
So in that light, Star Wars is their only "fresh" IP, and I would not at all be surprised if, in the eyes of Disney's execs, Rogue One absolutely cannot fail.
So it makes sense that they might be doing panicked last minute re-tools of it, all in the hopes of catching just one or two more potential audience demographics.
Hopefully this will get Disney to reconsider yearly Star Wars releases. Definitely grasping at straws there.
>>70358111
this sounds like Fant4stick all over again, it will pobably end in a disaster.
>>70358291
Phantom Menace wasn't even that bad.
>>70358920
They need fresh material. Video game movies failed, is animeshit the only stuff left?
>The crew expects they are reshooting 40% of the film.
>>70359260
>tfw you realize that a YA adaptation of The Vision of Escaflowne could be a box office juggernaut, like Harry Potter, The Hunger Games and Pacific Rim thrown in a blender, and you wouldn't even need to genderswap any characters to chase the YA demographic.
I should go work in Hollywood
>>70358920
yes i read that hollywood reporter article too smart one.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/alice-x-men-messes-studio-898137
>making a movie before the script is even done
Because that turned out well for every movie that has done this! Transformers 2, quantum of solace, tasm2, such quality films!
>>70359260
anime will fail because the sjw's will cry about the main characters not being chinks.
>>70359600
Joke's on you, I don't read the Hollywood reporter, I just go off of what I hear on /tv/
>>70358145
I rogue
>>70359622
Didn't mib3 do this? I liked that movie
>>70359473
Hnng. Would watch. I loved escaflowne
>>70358920
Did any nonmemer really believe BvS was going to be good? I mean just look at the trailers and the title, it was destined to be derpy af. I went in knowing that and it's probably why i enjoyed it for what it was.
Rogue honestly looks like another BvS. Silly premise, looks shallow, and people hyping it for some reason. If execs can see that then it's smart of them to want to avoid that, though whether they're successful is another story.
Also, Inside Out was good
>>70358920
whether this is an original response or not, it doesn't address the main point i made. no way the screenplay was not finished months ahead of the shoot. yes, apparently Disney is reshooting a lot of of new footage, but no way the film began shooting without an approved screenplay.
>reshooting 40% of the movie
Wow it smells bad. I am sure we will never see Edwards vision, sadly.
>>70359449
>40% reshoots
That's sounds more like a remake
>>70359876
Its aesthetic would look fucking phenomenal on the big screen.
Cast a 30-something heartthrob Ryan Gosling-type (Nicolaj Coster-Waldau?) as Alan, a short, brooding Andrew Garfield/Kit Harrington type as Van, and the next JLaw/Shaline Woodley/Saoirse Ronan/Emma Roberts as a whitewashed Hitomi, with the runner-up as Merle.
Instant succes, if the script was halfway decent.
>>70358111
Hasn't been such extensive reshooting since Superman II
>>70360004
Oh, I'm sure it was approved, and I'm sure the execs shit themselves after seeing BvS tank in face of the script they approved.
8 weeks of reshoot 6 months away from the release 4 months for editing and cgi. Big gamble. Disney really hates the first cut
>>70359622
Jaws did it too.
>>70359912
So the plot being they get a rag-tag team of people together in order to steal the plans for the most powerful weapon in the galaxy knowing they face certain death in hopes to jumpstart a revolution is a bad premise?
Come on anon, it isn't any worse than a new hope... I mean TFA.
>reshoots
Understandable for a scene or two
>reshooting 40% of the movie
>
>>70358145
>I have to go... Rogue.
>One second, I'll come with you.
>>70358291
Everyone is going to see Rogue One, but if it's not great the sequel will be a MUCH harder sell. And they probably want this to be a trilogy.
>>70358291
The bad one was Attack of the Sand.
>>70358920
I have a feeling Dory will underperform too. People who watched early screenings said it just copied the same plot points of Nemo with none of the heart. One more flop after this and Pixar is screwed.
>War movie isnt fun enough
>reshoot 40% of the movie
>Shoehorn in Han Solo v2 to add quips
I was hyped for a gritty war movie set in the Star Wars universe before this news.
Disney are going to fuck this up.
>>70360674
Just let Pixar do Newt already
>>70358111
If you didn't drop star wars when they cast boyega and introduced Mary ray sue you're a waste of space
>>70358111
Who fucking cares? I mean, seriously.
>>70360758
There's nothing wrong with Boyega.
>>70359912
>derpy
Kill yourself
>>70360674
Yeah, when the most "exciting" films on their upcoming roster are sequels, you know the magic is gone.
But, like Amblin in the 80s and early 90s, from 1996-2010, Pixar was utterly untouchable. They had a good run, for sure.
And inside out would have been ranked down with Monsters, Inc. and A Bug's Life if it were released in the 2000s, and you know it.
>>70360870
Casting a nigger and le strong women as the main characters was a basically telling all white men who arent cucks dont spend your money on this shit
>>70360342
>>70360703
Are you guys 12? Gritty doesn't fit Star Wars (not saying it can't be dramatic). Especially when they would never pursue an R rating.
>>70360944
Pic related. I'm hype af for sweet release.
>>70361094
it sucks to be you, you'll be at peace only when you embraceCURRENT YEAR
no amount of Trumps will make it better.
>>70358920
>you could argue that Civil War has underperformed
>I'd even argue that TFA underperformed
lol
>>70361094
look at all those /pol/ buzzwords
>>70361094
I hate this worthless fucking board
>>70361321
yet you keep coming back you cuck
>>70359622
Spectre too.
They're reshooting the scenes to make it so that the lead female isn't a massive mary sue like in the Force Awakens.
On the other hand they might be making her into an even bigger mary sue to pander to the tumblr and reddit crowd.
>>70358111https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/4m8d6w/forget_all_the_crap_about_people_saying_they_know/
Oh man.
>>70361460
>mary sue
>mary sue
>pander
>tumblr
Are you genuinely autistic?
This board needs to bring back the world filters fast
>>70359912
Premise was promising
The Ira belle focused trailer damaged that badly. I was expecting saving private star wars, not another hunger games knockoff
>>70361497
> No. She remains loyal only to the idea of finding her father. She doesn't care about the battle between the Empire and the Rebellion, she just wants to find her father. It is that love which uncovers the Death Star. The Rebellion would have been screwed if Jyn didn't go rogue
Holy shit that's awful
>>70360703
Actually, most of the reshoots are focused on redoing action sequences to be less scary, primarily a Saving Private Ryan in space sequence and a sequence at night where Vader takes out a group of rebels slasher movie style.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/4m8d6w/forget_all_the_crap_about_people_saying_they_know/
>>70361727
holy shit, did Chris Nolan write this?
>>70361786
And her father deliberately adds the thermal exhaust port as a weakpoint when he has a change of heart.
>>70361727
After all this years Jyn is the Rogue One®: A Star Wars™ Story in Real 3D and IMAX.
>>70358111
Great Movies that have had reshoots
>E.T.
>Jaws
>Apocalypse Now
>Blade Runner
>Superman II
>Rocky
>Back To The Future
>Top Gun
>The Avengers
>Mad Max: Fury Road
>X2: X-Men United
What's the issue here?
>>70361241
I would reckon that between the budget and the media-saturation promos, Civil What's break-even point was likely at or near $750 million. As the de facto to 3rd Avengers movie, and as a movie that got far, far better reviews than AoU, they were likely hoping for a combined worldwide gross in the $1.5-1.6 billion range that Jurassic World and Furious 7 grossed on far lower budgets. If it tops out at ~$1.2b, that's still leaving $300-400 million in profits on the table that Disney may well have been planning for.
In the blockbuster world, a $400m net on a $750m investment is still a fairly "meh" box office reception, on the same level as a $75m movie only grossing $120m.
As for TFA, increase the initial investment to $800+ million, if not a billion even, and then add in the $4 Billion dollars that Disney spent on acquiring Lucasfilm, Ltd., and now, even that gross "profit" of $1.6 billion starts to feel a little underwhelming when you realize that TFA will likely be their top-grossing Star Wars film and they were probably hoping that it would return Avatar numbers and bring home $2b+ in gross profits.
Rumors said that the reshoots involved a cameo that people were expecting but didn't get I think. So that's got to be Vader or Sheev.
>yfw Finding Dory, Pete's Dragon and The BFG underperform and Rogue One fails to break even Disney's net profit from Civil War and Jungle Book
>>70361241
How in earth did Iron Man 3 perform that good in box-offices?
>>70362549
Post-Avengers hype.
>>70358111
Can't wait for another quip fest
>>70360466
>I rebel
>reshooting 40% of the film
>40% capeshit quips
>trailer looked like it was going to be an appropriately dark film
>early screeners described it as a sci-fi war film
>now they're gonna fill it with quips and ruin all the tension and its going to be boring and stale just like every Marvel movie.
>>70358111
i heard they're doing the reshoot because test viewers complained about its gross whiteness and overall lack of powerful females and diversity, specifically not enough white female/black male relationships.
Which one will they turn into the comic relief character?
>>70362749
All Donnie Yen scenes will now be performed by Melissa McCarthy.
>>70362086
A couple days of reshoots for the purpose of fixing and tweaking a few things are common, yes. Reshoots for the purpose of "correcting" the tone not so much. They tried it with Fant4stic and it completely broke the movie.
>>70362749
One of the ayys from the visual guide leaks is the comic relief, probably the hairy midget
>>70362928
>Rogue One will be reshooting for 8 weeks
wew lad
>>70358920
>fans may be finally growing tired of more capeshit, which likely has Disney scared shitless, since Marvel is their cash cow.
Good, they can go back to Paramount.
>>70359211
This
>>70362970
>8 weeks
What did Gareth Edwards do to fuck up this hard?
>>70361123
The "Star Wars is funny" meme has to end. Empire Strikes Back was dark and gritty and it is everyone's favorite
>>70363067>I'll put it this way: a lot of characters die in this movie right now, and that was supposed to be the whole point. You don't name an entire squadron after a group that got a happy ending, no that's normally in honor of a great sacrifice.
>In a night scene Vader absolutely lays waste to a Rebel ground Squad. Unfortunately this is one of the scenes we have to water down. We made it like something from the old slasher/horror films. Rebel soldiers who joked about a boogie man with magical powers and then minutes later are absolutely wasted.
>>70361021
Are you suggesting Monsters Inc. wasn't a good movie?
>>70362683
>>70362697
>>70362588
You guys realize that Christopher McQuarrie is way, way more talented in every fucking aspect off filmmaking than Edward's right?
>reshoots directed by McQuarrie
>reshoots written by McQuarrie
based.
Usual suspects, Edge of Tomorrow, Rogue Nation, Jack Reacher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Godzishit
How expensive are quips? Probably not very
>>70363067
Nothing - they wanted a war movie, he delivered.
Now they want quipshit.
>>70361756
>Actually, most of the reshoots are focused on redoing action sequences to be less scary, primarily a Saving Private Ryan in space sequence and a sequence at night where Vader takes out a group of rebels slasher movie style.
I hate this fucking planet
>>70363197
I like McQuarrie but if his style is what Disney wanted he should've directed Rogue One from the start. Instead we'll end up with a movie that's half Edwards and half McQuarrie. 40% reshoots are never a good thing
>>70363168
Gareth is that you
Why did you have to fuck it up Gareth ffs
they can reshoot all they want, but the original cut needs to be preserved and released in some form.
>>70363122
ESB was darker than ANH but it wasn't gritty.
>I THOUGHT IT SMELLED BAD... ON THE OUTSIDE
>le funny puppet sensei
>le suave black man
>le goofy dismembered droid
>>70363454
Rogue One Special Edition?
Based Disney saving this film from that Godzilla hack
>>70361756
no...this cant not be true.....
IT CANT BE !
wonder if they will release the original cut in bd. like alien 3
>>70363454
But that would imply that Disney didn't do a good enough job on the released version, which is something they would never allow.
Seriously, watch the behind the scenes for TFA. They made it look like the entire production went off without a hitch, ignoring Harrison's leg injury and J.J. not being their first choice for director.
>>70358111
>Progressive
>Asians look stereotypical asian warriors.
Mmmmmmok
>>70363616
it's like the no sad kids rule in disney world
>>70363168
But this is what we wanted to see!
GARETH I hope you saved a copy of this version and release it online for us
>32 sets have been recreated for the reshoot.
>The crew expects they are reshooting 40% of the film.
wtf
>>70361727
Dafuq? So Rogue One shares the same premise as TFA. Lone woman, searching (waiting) for parent(s) inadvertently joins the Rebellion (Resistance) has natural powers, and helps fuck of The Empire (First Order) just like TFA became an unoriginal reboot of ANH???
Ahh, shit Disney. Just release the original theatrical OT cuts for me the fucking kill yourselves. None of this shit is canon to me now.
>>70363941
pretty sure the original theatrical cuts are out on torrent sites maybe?
>>70363941
Poems of Poetry
>>70363856
How do you even fuck up that badly.
>>70358291
You're clearly underage. Everyone was excited for Star Wars because it had been decades since the last. Critical backlash came years later. But the key difference between the prequels and this is Lucas was calling the shots without studios telling him what to do and what to sell. The executive meddling in ANH was enough for everyone to say fuck hollywood
>>70363960
Despecialized versions are good but not perfect. Disney has the originals. They can buy ANH from Fox Keep the original FOX logos seguing into the films also.
>>70359912
>derpy
kys
>>70363856
>>70364037
It sounds to me one of those situation where the plot is incoherent. I am assuming this might have to do with the direction of SW Force Awakens. Maybe they rewrote to be coherent with a subplot.
>>70358111
>>The crew expects they are reshooting 40% of the film.
HAAH WAAW
>>70364115
I don't mean the despecialized, I'm almost positive I've seen actual theatrical cuts of the first movie at least around.
>yfw they need to cast a white cis male actor to save this movie.
>>70363122
>everyone's favorite
THIS meme needs to die. People disliked it when it came out. It only got popular recently.
>>70359622
>making a movie before the script is even done
>What is Casablanca
I keep getting Gareth Edwards mixed up with Gareth Evans. When is that Welsh fuck making his next movie
>>70361756
Has this been verified because if he's right, Disney is going to destroy Star Wars in the next few years.
>>70359622
(Iron Man sits in the corner, shaking its head at the retard making a fool of himself)
>>70362173
This, Disney closed down all their video game studios (That Disney Infinity thing) because they only achieved 300M$ of profit.
>>70364548
Iron man? The movie with an abysmal third act and terrible villain?
>>70362749
Is Donnie Yen character's blind?
Also, it's gonna be Alan Tudyk as the robot.
>>70363196
A Bug's Life was one of my favorite early Pixar films, but objectively, it and Monsters, Inc are generally considered to be two of the weaker early Pixar movies, compared to Toy Story 2, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, etc
Rogue One looks like a SW version of Fury. That's why Disney is pissed. Disney is catering to the whimsical fun of the OT (mostly lighthearted adventure with minimal dark themes) just how TFA delivered. Rogue was just too bleak and dull. If it was bleak and good Disney honestly wouldn't care. Unlike Sony, Disney knows what a quality film should look like. Poor JJ.
>>70358291
TFA
>>70362549
A plot that heavily appealed to the Chinese market.
>>70361241
It's interesting how you can ignore the entire post to single out something and post something completely useless. Keep it up.
>>70358920
He's right, you know
>>70361094
This
>>70358111
I'm glad I don't give a shit about Star Wars anymore. Love to hear when shit goes wrong for it now.
Did you guys see that announcement on The Disney Channel? Star Wars Episode 8 will be title Revenge From Space and Episode 9 will be titled Moving Forward. Gotta say not the best titles.
>>70364762
Get out of here, STALKER.
>>70361241
TFA underperform my ass. All movies today in general underperformed. TFA did great in comparison. The thing is there hadn't been a SW film in 10 years that's why. Too much capeshit is ruining the franchise. Deadpool did great because it was Rated R. People are getting capeshit fatigue. That's why studios are investing in vidya game films like Warcraft and Ass Creed because they don't know how to make original blockbusters anymore. Disney is smart. Competing studios making capeshit films is too many. Only Disney can do Star Wars but if they oversaturate the series with too many spinoffs it won't be a money maker anymore. I think Disney knows SW is limited too so they will oversaturate it until it dies. I mean how many times can you shoot lasers and swing lightsabers for fuck's sake
>>70359656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jafd97yJFOI
FUCK DISNEY GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/4m8d6w/forget_all_the_crap_about_people_saying_they_know/
Mad crewmember leaking infos
BRAVO DISNEY
>>70365512
God the movie sounds so shitty.
The designer purposely left the vulnerability in the Death Star? Fuck you. They're defeating all dread and meaning to the death star now. Fuuuck.
>>70364616
This, as proven by:
>>70363168
Now I thought Godzilla 14 was mostly a snoozefest, but my god did it have me on the edge of my seat feeling this pervasive sense of dread at the thought of what I knew I was about to see.
Any of the sequences early on involving the nuclear plant, the MUTO attack on the nuke train, and the buildup to that last-ditch HALO jump into a MUTO-ravaged San Francisco were spooky as all hell, and were easily the best parts of the film. I would go so far as to say that they were legitimately scarier than anything that has appeared in a Japanese Godzilla film so far, INCLUDING 1954 and 1984.
Now, that sort of edge-of-your seat sense of body-pervading dread as we know we are about to see awful things happen and the raw horror of death and destruction might be tonally PERFECT for a classic-styled Kaiju movie.
But even I (someone who HATED TFA and is desperate to see something different come from the Star Wars franchise) can admit that the exact sorts of scenes and emotions that Gareth Edwards is fucking fantastic at capturing on film might be completely inappropriate in any Star Wars film.
Now, Darth Vader appearing from the shadows to massacre the heroes in a stomach-turningly dread-inducing scene that could be scored with Györgi Ligeti's "Requiem" in the trailer might sound "cool" at first (I know I think it could be fucking amazing to see), but I can also see where cooler heads may see a scene like that where our favorite cybernetic sith lord unleashes a horrific beatdown that Ser Gregor Clegane could be proud of might be a TAAAAD inappropriate for a film set in the same universe that contained C-3PO, Yoda, and the Ewoks.
>>70362086
But they didn't really almost half of the fucking movie.
>>70364425
>disliked when it came out
>recently became everyone's favorite
So? It's still everyone's favorite in the present. I couldn't give less of a shit about 40 year old opinions.
>>70358111
>>32 sets have been recreated for the reshoot.
>>The crew expects they are reshooting 40% of the film.
>>They are working 6 days a week for 8 weeks.
>>70364425
>People disliked it when it came out. It only got popular recently.
That's not true at all.
>>70365512
>The ending will stay the same, but the crew's fate will be implied, not shown. The reshoot a will be for our Normandy inspired beachhead scene and the Vader massacre, as well as a few other combat scenes.
Fuck this is infuriating
>>70358111
>reshooting almost half of the film
DOA
O
A
>>70365604
You're talking about a character who unhesitatingly killed defenceless children in Revenge of the Sith, and who is consistently ranked the greatest villain in movie history. Seeing Vader going full Clegane on a group of rebels would be one of the best moments in Star Wars history.
>>70365919
I know, I made the mistake of typing all that before I read all the Reddit spoilers.
Vader going full Mountain vs Martell on a bunch of hardcore mercenaries could be a fucking pinnacle sequence for the franchise.
I take back everything I said, R1 as Gareth shot it sounds fucking bleak as all hell, the hollow victory "Seven Samurai in Space" that I think Lucas himself deep down inside wanted to make when he started writing Episode I, before he talked himself into adding kid Anakin, Jar-Jar, etc.
So yeah, I was wrong.
Bring on Clegane Vader.
GET HYPE.
>>70366442
>GET HYPE.
But they're reshooting this.
why are they doing reshoots?
>>70366596
Disney execs said it didn't feel like Star Wars and they want it to be more like ANH and TFA.
>>70365798
Confirmed underage. Critics disliked the film for the cliff hanger ending and felt like the movie dragged in the middle.
>>70366656
>Disney
well, i guess they can afford it
>>70366561
Well, hopefully the Reddit guy's (and the R1 crew in general's) viral campaign takes hold and the Disney management relents and at least gives us a director's cut. Or something.
>reshooting 40% of a movie 6 months before it is supposed to come out
holy shit
The Rogue One panel at Celebration is gonna be awkward.
>>70366663
People changed their minds quickly about it. Saying it only got popular recently is retarded.
>>70367325
>Saying it only got popular recently is retarded
How? 1995 was the point people were warming up to it.
>>70366810
It happens all the time.
Xmen Apocalypse had stuff being shot a month before release
>>70367818
>How?
People watched it at home.
>1995 was the point people were warming up to it.
I've never heard anyone spout so much bullshit before with so little text.
>>70367912
& that movie sucked
>B-based Disney giving us fans the Star Wars we REALLY wanted!
Is the TFA honeymoon phase over so soon?
Hi everyone
Let me bleed past the damage control
Christopher McQuarrie has been shadow directing this since 3/4s through the original shoot.
Gareth Edwards is only present on set because the director's guild requires it.
None of the 40% theyre reshooting is the 25% McQuarrie was in charge of. Coincidence?
Edwards is done in Hollywood. Not quite Tranked since Disney kept the onset disaster leaks very quiet (the news of McQuarrie ""touching up"" the script was barely reported on).
Its very sad. Another victim of this idea of plucking a little indie guy and giving a producer-governed 175 million dollar flick then watching him fall apart.
>>70367912
Only the dumb Wolverine action scene exclusively
>>70368726
What happened on set that was such a disaster?
I don't care if its bullshit, tell me a good story.
I thought this was shitty news until I realized how much I dislike Monters and Godzilla, if rogue one was gonna be as crappy as those movies then I'm glad Disney has intervened
>>70368726
Holy hell let this be real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj08Jwp-2q0
>>70368220
>ESB was met with overwhelming critical response at it's release
You have to be stupid to think this when the evidence proves otherwise. Look at the critical reviews at it's release dude not now
>>70365452
No badass Vader, of course this is disney and everyone told you this 3 going on 4 years ago.
>>70368726
>Christopher McQuarrie
is that a good or a bad thing?
>>70362173
Hadn't Disney already made a huge profit (billions) off Star Wars merchandise before TFA hit theaters?
>>70361756
Vader going slasher movie villain on the heroes, killing them one by one? And it being genuinely frightening? This is exactly what I wanted! Don't water it down, Disney.
>>70370056
He's totally grabbing her tits just out of frame.
>>70368726
>Christopher McQuarrie
"My films do very well on home video."
"Oh my God, you look at all the uniforms in Star Wars, and it's all Nazi iconography."
>>70370688
I would imagine that today, where you're basically just dealing with Hasbro (and sorta Mattel), that there is much less money to be made from toys than there was in the 1980s, when you had over a half dozen major toy companies jockeying against each other, all willing to cut killer deals with you to get your sweet, sweet IP.
It's kind of like what the EA/Activision duopoly has done for gaming.
>>70358291
worse than TFA
>>70358920
>Hell, I'd even argue that TFA underperformed seeing as it how they clearly went into it looking to beat Avatar and came out barely able to beat Titanic in terms of overall grosses. It was still a massive hit, but in that light, it may well have left hundreds of millions (or billions) on the table in the eyes of Disney execs.
I've been saying this for months.
Considering how big star wars is I believe execs expected TFA to make at least 3billion, probably 4.
>>70361756
>a Saving Private Ryan in space sequence and a sequence at night where Vader takes out a group of rebels slasher movie sty
REEEEEE
this would have been awsome.
>What we've created is not so far from the inspiration of the original films in that we styled it after WWII combat. The difference is that the original trilogy only used that inspiration for air fights. We invoke that same feeling in infantry scenes. There's a beachhead scene that's very much derivitave of Saving Private Ryan, but in the Star Wars universe.
> There's a beachhead scene that's very much derivitave of Saving Private Ryan, but in the Star Wars universe.
>a beachhead scene that's very much derivitave of Saving Private Ryan
disney needs to burn
>>70358920
Maybe if hollywood execs would let creative people do their jobs adn tell proper stories instead of monkeying with the process through endless script rewrites and editing and reedtiting films to the point of incoherence.
But I guess hollywood isn't in the story business anymore due to the fact that the largest paying consumers of movies don't speak english so it doesn't matter anyway.
>>70371589
Yeah, it's why Spielberg had that quote from a couple years ago about how sometime soon a "too big to fail" movie will fail and take the studio down with it.
>>70371868
>We will never get the star wars movie version of the TV show Combat!
When will hollywood finally fucking implode and go away like Stephen Spielberg said?
>>70372367
More like two or three failures. I have a feeling BvS was the first big proverbial horseman of the hollywood apocalypse.
A couple more under performances like that film could lead to some serious shit going down in the industry.
>>70372472
nigga on suicide watch
>>70372500
which in turn will lead to movies becoming even more formulaic pieces of shit.
>>70372472
>>70372472
He's saying "don't take the rumors as fact" but what does "do your job" mean? continue to perpetuate the hype?
>>70372432
>>70372500
>>70372367
Will we get another New Hollywood?
>>70372671
shill harder to drown out the naysayers
>>70372671
I'm guessing he's criticizing news sites for running bullshit stories and telling them to contact him for the real details aka DAMAGE CONTROL MY SHIT UP.
>>70372644
The reason that movies are formulaic pieces of shit is that thanks to the death of the home video market and Hollywood's apparent inability to control expenses nobody is willing to take chances on something unproven. Therfore you get soulless crap made by bean counters who don't even like movies.
>>70360502
Was never going to be a trilogy with these characters. This is just the start of a series of one-off anthology movies, the next one will be Han Solo origins, then followed by Boba Fett. If they do well, who knows what'll be next
> Yoda Origin
>>70360466
>Watch out, we got a rogue one over here!
>>70372362
Samefag here.
>But I guess hollywood isn't in the story business anymore due to the fact that the largest paying consumers of movies don't speak english so it doesn't matter anyway.
You just hit the nail on the head. The formulaic blandness of the MCU, TFA, and plenty of other recent movies (the Alice in Wonderland 3D BS comes to mind) has far less to do with the gradual worsening of American tastes than you might think, and much more to do with the utter lack of taste that the 3rd world international market tends to have.
The studios have realized that the REAL money is made when you dub the film into Spanish, Mandarin, Arabic, or Hindi, and open yourself up to the billions of 3rd-world rubes out there who are too stupid to understand (or care about) proper storytelling, but sure do love to see explosions, mindless action, and other flashy "Hollywood" shit on the big screen.
Add in the fact that certain storylines and characterizations might fall flat or be offensive to "international" audiences (if the jist of it even makes it through translation), or run afoul of censors/ratings boards, and you now understand why most every blockbuster since Bayformers/POTC or so (some of the first movies to score BIG internationally) has been such homogenized tripe.
Disney is ESPECIALLY guilty of this, which is why ever since Pirates, every single one of their live-action tentpole releases has followed the same time-honed formula of "bland, committee-approved, no-real-stakes storyline carried by light-hearted quippy dialogue, liberally peppered with fan service, and structured around 2 or 3 large-scale action set pieces with enough flashy, compelling visuals to distract the audience how otherwise forgettable the movie actually is.
The Pirates movies followed this formula.
The MCU follows this formula.
And now, Star Wars follows this formula.
Pity to Gareth Edwards for thinking otherwise.
>>70372500
But what will be the next?
My money is on Finding Dory.
>>70364080
you should know that the opinions of /tv/ are rarely seen outside of 4chan
>>70361094
what about leia and lando?
>>70371868
The saving private Ryan scene was never copied that great. Im tired of all the other films aping it not that well
>>70373361
I came here to argue otherwise, but as I thought it through, nope. You're right. Spot on.
>>70358111
>40%
NOOOOO!
>>70358111
>6 months until release date
>make that 5 months due to leaving an extra month of organizing the shipping of the film to every cinema
>Have 5 months to reshoot 40% of the movie
>Build 30 new sets
JUST
There is no way they are gonna pull this off.
This has become way worse than Peter Jackson's Hobbit film schedule
>>70373248
Like what?
>>70358111
I bet you its Kathleens fault
>>70358111
APOLOGIZE
>>70360502
>sequel
lol darth vader kills them all at the end after they send off the data
>>70358441
Didn't Iron Man famously start shooting without ANY script at all?
The film turned out preddy gud tho.
>>70376216
But he was right?
>>70358111
Anyone else super disappointed? I wouldn't have minded a darker tone Star Wars while the main series can maintain it's slightly light-hearted fantasy tone
What's the point of playing with the Star Wars IP if the same movie is going to get rehashed over and over again?
>>70378195
The entire reason I was excited was because it looks like it was going to depict a side of the Star Wars universe you had to go to the shitty EU for
I mean, my favorite games are KOTOR2 and Dark Forces so I know how good a darker Star Wars movie could be.
Should've hired McQuarrie to direct in the first place. He made the best Mission Impossible film short of De Palma, and Jack Reacher was surprisingly good.
>>70378195
>What's the point of playing with the Star Wars IP if the same movie is going to get rehashed over and over again?
Because they basically print money by not taking risks. It's been Disney's whole gameplan since they took over Marvel Studios, and it's working out so far.
>>70358111
>>The crew expects they are reshooting 40% of the film.
>40%
>>70369989
Nothing you write makes any sense, retard.
>>70358111
Is it keeping the release date? If so, it will be certifiably rotten.
Tons of major red flags in this movie:
1. "It's a rebellion, I rebel." The most cringe worthy line in Star Wars history. Literally smacks of everything we were afraid of when Disney took over.
2. Main character is a total, unpleasant, unlikable cunt.
3. 90 pound girl karate chopping armored stormtroopers. I'm all for tough heroines but this is so bad it insults your intelligence.
4. Gareth Edwards. He made that shit Godzilla movie and his films are terrible.
5. The writers. They've both produced nothing but shit.
6. The Death Star... AGAIN. With this film we have 8 Star Wars movies and the Death Star is mentioned or seen in 6 of them.
7. Yet another Mary Sue lead that will alienate everyone except for self hating men, gays and teenage girls.
And that's just for starters.
>>70363856
Sounds like a big mistake.
>>70363839
It's Disney. They have fucktons of lawyers ready to burn the footages already
>>70378966
what are the two?
episode one and five?
>>70358111
JOHNSON
WE NEED MORE QUIPS, JOHNSON
YOU FORGOT THE FUCKING QUIPS JOHNSON
>>70379533
who rebels first?
do i rebel first?
> not realizing trailers chop up dialogue
> judging audiovisual media from a single trailer
dumbass
>>70378966
Half of these points come from the sick mind of a /pol/tard
>>70379528
Episode I is the only one
OP is a mongoloid who forgot the Death Star is mentioned in the opening crawl of Episode V
>>70365604
Is this pasta meant to mock reedit? Because of it isn't I know where you have to go back to.
