Why the fuck did he get rid of somebody for having a can of peaches?
>>70305115
he was suicidal
he was just doing his job, man
>>70305115
Because Rachel doesn't love him anymore
>>70305115
Is this the friends guy? What movie is it?
>>70305342
When Trumpets Fade
>>70305115
Those aren't peaches. Those are U.S. Army property.
>>70305115
Because the USA doesn't have sharia law
>>70305115
More importantly, why is Shaun "Hot Fuzz" Ofthedead standing next to him?
>>70305342
Battle Of Sandwich.
In the late 1960s, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol.[9] The bullet entered his left temple, passed behind his eyes, and exited out the other side of his head. This severed his optic nerves and left him blind.[9] He was later moved to a VA assisted living facility in Waukegan, Illinois. Sobel resided there for his last seventeen years until his death due to malnutrition on September 30, 1987.[9] No services were held for Sobel after his death.[9]
>>70305342
bundle of sibliings
>>70305430
Everyone is in this mini series, even Jimmy Giggles Falon
>>70305479
Back in junior high our principal was a retired air force captain, even though he was nothing like Sobel, I think he was going for the same approach (giving us a really hard time so we would be "better prepared"). He had some bizarre requests, like we would have to memorize songs for the music classes and he made the girls curtsy to him (this was back in 1997 or so) and critiqued them harshly if they did it wrong. I still absolutely hate his guts, he was an unreasonable asshole. Giving your subordinates or pupils a hard time just makes them want to piss on your grave. I imagine easy company felt the same about Sobel.
>>70305479
what a moron
>>70305115
It's not a can of peaches.
>>70305342
F•R•I•E•N•D•S: The Motion Picture
there a decent stream of this series online anywhere? I watched the longest day earlier this week for memorial day, and it has me hankering for more WWII stuff.
>>70307616
Amazon - it is free with Amazon Prime.
>>70305115
Memes aside - it was theft, and he didn't want any thieves in his unit.
>>70305342
Band of Brothers
>>70305115
Because it was United States Army property and it was taken without authorization from his mess facility
>>70305479
some people are just not made for military, should have been a jewish banker instead.
>>70305735
Some of the guys from E company, while not wanting him to lead them in battle, credit his harsh training for getting them through the war. The guy couldn't read a map, and had zero tactical sense, but at least they were better prepared when someone else took over.
>>70307820
He was a ass, but some of the best leaders are assholes.
>In the late 1960s, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol.[9] The bullet entered his left temple, passed behind his eyes, and exited out the other side of his head. This severed his optic nerves and left him blind.[9] He was later moved to a VA assisted living facility in Waukegan, Illinois. Sobel resided there for his last seventeen years until his death due to malnutrition on September 30, 1987.[9] No services were held for Sobel after his death.[9]
wew
>>70305115
Full Metal Can
>>70308009
Being an asshole isn't a requirement of being a good leader and being an asshole doesn't make one a good leader.
>>70307719
i never really got this - he wasn't too far in front of them that it would make a difference to a sniper
>>70308009
He wasn't a good combat leader though. Sounds like he would be better suited for training them than leading them in battle
>>70307820
He was actually perfect for the military, in a training/staff position. Just a horrible combat leader.
>>70308154
He made himself a target by standing ahead and away from them all. The guy looking around with binoculars is likely going to be some kind of officer, not a dime-a-dozen private.
>>70305393
This. Pass revoked.
>>70305115
I could eat a peach for hours.
>>70308154
He showed himself to be a officer - snipers are under general orders to take out officers as it causes units ability to fight to lessen as NCOs are a mixed bunch.
>>70308174
Indeed, why they gave him the training posts when they removed him from easy.
>>70308229
I used to quote that line all the time as s kid not understanding the entendre.
>>70308110
Holy fuck thats brutal
>>70305479
A valuable lesson can be learned from this /tv/
All of you. Pay the fuck attention.
Is Generation War as good as BoB? My great grandfathers fought for the axis and naturally I can relate more to them/see them as my heroes than the American invaders of my continent.
>>70305115
In the off chance you aren't meming, it's because you don't want a thief in your unit. If he's gonna take shit from the DFAC, what's stopping him from stealing from others in the company? It also reinforces discipline throughout the unit.
>>70308276
I bet your parents loved that.
>>70308311
>invaders, damn I like the sound of that
Not our fault your dumbass grandparents let your country get cucked by a retarded degenerate drug addict.
>>70308260
>showed himself an officer
>has a LT symbol on his fucking head
I mean... come on guys.
Contrary to popular belief, it's incredibly hard to hit a moving target. He stopped the convoy and just stood out in the open. It was just a really really dumb decision but it didn't OUT him as an officer.
>>70305115
Its a discipline thing
>>70305479
They didn't mention this in Band of Brothers. Pity really, guy seemed to train his men well.
>>70308371
I'm not German I'm Finnish. Also I don't blame you for responding to Germany when they declared war on you but nevertheless I can't relate to your soldier nor are they any heroes of mine. Is it hard for Americans to grasp that other countries exist?
Which one /tv/?
>>70308330
To be honest I don't think they got it either.
>>70308311
It shows that the majority of the whermacht weren't genocidal maniacs and we're just roped into the war based on nationalism
>>70305115
Why didn't Simon Pegg have a comedial scenes in the series? It feels weird and wasted potential,
>>70308433
I suppose it doesn't really inspire the same thought processes when it comes from a kid.
>>70308441
I don't think he even had a line in this show in fact I think that's the only scene I see him
>>70308276
what and why is the entendre? google has nothing
>>70308471
Mate, it refers to cunnilingus.
>>70308420
Well, yeah I suppose, but America LITERALLY won WW2 single handily without any support from any other country in the world. Not Great Britian, not France, and certainly not the USSR.
Nope. America did it all themselves.
>>70308469
he gives the court marshal letter to winters when they are in britain later on with his BEST american accent.
>>70308421
Band of Brothers all the way.
Pacific has a lotta good stuff in it but from memory they seemed way too focused on the "war is hell" aspect more than the characters or the campaign.
>>70305479
> volunteer at a retirement home
> watch people die on a daily basis from "malnutrition" which is actually people fucking starving
> at least three bodies being carted off every day in the morning
Retirement homes are basically internment camps for old people, they just burn the bodies off site.
>>70308387
he has a fucking first Lt. symbol on his helmet you dimwit. (Single Stripe)
also he has binoculars. which was officer issued.
>>70305342
PIVOT: The movie
>>70308441
He was a complete unknown at that point. I think it was even before Spaced.
I do love watching this show every few years because every time I do there's actors who have become famous since.
Only realised last time I watched it that Bane was the guy fucking that girl.
>>70305115
One of my Co-workers was a family friend of Winters. His family owns a bakery in Pennsylvania and Winters shopped there a lot and they all became besties apparently. Even went back home for the funeral.
>>70308589
>also he has binoculars. which was officer issued.
would the germans know that?
>memo form herr hitler: shoot the ones with binoculars first
>>70308469
Peach = pussy
>>70308612
If only she would have said "you ARE a big guy"
>>70308612
Don't forget Jimmy Fallon was the supply truck driver before they went into bastogne
>>70308420
Well make a movie about the Finn wars vs. the soviets. I am not sure why it hard to understand a american production company is going to produce a series about american troops, just like it not surprising the BBC makes stuff on British troops. Or Russia talks about its troops.
>>70308639
Yes, that why officers were supposed to use binoculars in a covered position, and then move if snipers are known to be in the area so they do not aim at a reflection.
>>70308589
uhhhh why are you calling me a dimwit for? since when is a lt not an officer?
>>70308009
He was a shit leader too
>>70308651
I think it's the only time in his whole career Jimmy Fallon has not sucked a bag of dicks.
>>70308612
Fassbender is the guy who drinks water on the march.
>>70308408
Private Blyth didn't die either, he was shipped home before anyone knew and everyone in easy thought he was dead. Only after the show aired (or the book was released, I forget) he contacted them and was like "yo I'm alive lol"
>>70308656
It's not, I asked about Generation War that is produced by Germans. I watched and liked BoB btw, just was interested in something similar for me. Nowhere did I demand hollyjew should produce that.
>>70308612
Another show you can do that with is Xfiles.
Non stop stream of people who later became famous.
CONTRABAND
>>70308656
>tfw we will never get an eastern front BoB with American production values
>tfw we will never get a BoB series for ww1
>>70308752
>>tfw we will never get a BoB series for ww1
that would be shit
>Day 73: in trench all day again. foot is wet.
>>70308651
Also Magneto and Xavier.
So far The Pacific only has Mr Robot that I recognise as getting famous since. The guy from 13 Hours and The Walk was already in season 3 of 24 by that point so he doesn't count.
>>70305115
Is that Simon Pegg in the back?
>>70305115
You do know that drill instructors should be obnoxious , and since EZ company had such high survival rate(all things considering, they were in almost all suicidal missions) he did something right.
He didnt had to be a good soldier, he just needed to make a person aggressive,really fit and build "Fuck you,ill endure you!"- mentality,
in that aspect he was perfect.
>>70308685
You saying it did not show himself as a officer.
>Walks out in front.
>has a big ass LT. Stripe on his helmet
>Uses binoculars
>Turns around to show the even bigger stripe on the back of his helmet
Gets shot down.
Yes, he showed off at least three things to be a officer.
>>70308790
>high survival rate
>~160% casualty rate
>>70308786
YES GOD DAMN IT.
>>70305115
Because only faggots eat peaches
>>70308741
Fair enough - It a bad of brothers thread - I had to look up that generation war was just a renaming of "Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter"
>MMMYYYYYYY PEEEEEAAAACCHHHHHHEEEEESSSSS?
>>70305479
and that is why there was no Jewish resistance movement in whole Europe(even woodland people of eastern Balkan made Partisans who actually did a lot of harm to Nazis), if you take money out of equation , Jews have no power.
Finally , Israelly are turning into an nation and they have warrior class among them
>>70308827
Ok you are just being dumb for no reason.
The sniper would have been able to tell he had the symbol on his helmet even if he didn't go stand out in the open.
THEREFORE
Him going out in the open didn't OUT him as an officer. They clearly would have been able to see he was way before. It simply made him an easier target since he wasn't moving. Shooting a moving target is considerably harder than a non-moving target, specifically if you are aiming at the head (which the sniper was). Him even turning caused the sniper to miss a bit.
Use some fucking critical thinking next time and get your ass off your high horse you dumbfuck.
>>70308784
That right - was BOB before or after Children of Dune. Children of Dune and State of Play is what made Mcavoy a rising star.
>>70308920
Snipers typically aim for center mass fyi
>>70308920
The officer had not covered his fucking white stripe, didn't put his Maps and binoculars inside jackets, so he showed himself to be a officer.
>>70308488
huh, i thought it was about ass eating
>>70308920
See>>70309000
And>>70308684
Shouldn't have openly used binos in that position. It's pretty much a dead giveaway.
>>70308154
you dont know how snipers work in real life.(in this example it was obvious it was officer so he took him out, usually they just wound first one)
First you shoot someone who is at total front of colone, then you shoot at someone who is all the way in the back(that way you make whole platoon in dissaray ), then, depends on situation, you either relocate while they are trying to get a hold of first shock and then you wound ones who try to rescue first victims.
its one of the oldest tactics in the books, first, last,2nd first,2nd last,relocate, rinse ,repeat until almighty US sniper hits you right in the eye tru scope.
>>70309000
All before stepping forward. Amazing.
The airborne also covered up their badges that signaled they were an elite force as well during Operation Market Garden.
>>70308998
typically, but if presented with a super obvious target not moving and out in the open with no other combat distractions odds are the sniper was thinking "Lol what is this idiot doing" and "BOOM! HEADSHOT TIME"
>>70308408
In the novel, lots of the men say that despite Sobel being a colossal cunt and a terrible CO under fire, the reason Easy performed so well under fire was the training they received from Sobel. Shame they don't really touch on it in the TV series.
>>70309089
This - My great uncle served in the pacific, and while out on the islands that have not been fully captured they were under orders never to salute the officers, as otherwise their officers would get shot by a sniper, and officers had to keep their binoculars hidden.
>>70309089
> openly used binos in that position
I don't get it why the fuck are you idiots being so dense about this?
The binoculars and being upfront are not the only thing that gives off your rank. The fact he had it on his FUCKING HELMET would be a larger factor that they would have seen before he even stepped up.
What is so god damn hard to understand about that?
>>70309071
>i thought it was about ass eating
I'm glad I could clear it up for you before that became an issue in life.
>>70309122
>dds are the sniper was thinking "Lol what is this idiot doing" and "BOOM! HEADSHOT TIME"
Probably not. In fact, almost certainly not, considering the officer clearly got hit in the chest, and the likelihood of missing is increased hugely when you aim for the head.
>>70308421
BOB, but TP could be soo much more,
i feel that Spielberg didnt want to make
action documentary with TP but more of "War is wrong".
And, since you actually follow mortar team in TP, you never see the front lines as you should.
You dont see marines answer to Banzai attacks(machetes and shotguns), some crazy CQC shit weent on Pacific thetre, they should give one episode just to that aspect of warfare(literally cold weapons warfare in WW2 at moments)
>>70309176
>The fact he had it on his FUCKING HELMET
Yeah thanks I'm aware of that. Don't flip your plate of hotpockets just because I didn't mention it.
>>70309126
Honestly I highly doubt Sobel's training had much to do with it.
Every single one of them would have followed Winter's orders no matter how dangerous they were. They all trusted him as an extremely competent tactical commander. I mean, training and physical fitness is important but I'm pretty sure having a brilliant leader is more important, Sobel trained them harder but probably not so crazily different than other airborne soldiers.
What E Company had was one amazing Dick.
>>70309176
The Binos and the map man-purse are bigger giveaways then the small white stripe in the front of the helmet. Not to say that the helmet didn't help his cause.
>>70309000
jesus christ, what has 4chan turned into, guy gets over 9000 and no one says a word, I hate memes as the next guy, but im kinda afraid that im in wrong place at moments
>>70309260
The lesson? Don't be an asshole.
>>70309301
>gets over 9000
Literally not over 9000, and that is not a thing that anyone has ever given a shit about here.
>>70309301
only faggots that care about that shit are mexicans.
>>70308851
i did mention (all things considering, they were in almost all suicidal missions).
Check other companies and compare missions they were in and ratio.
EZ was almost always exclusively on worst place possible.
>>70309278
fitness is key to survival as well. The actual members of easy company who survived the war and were part of the unit under sobel command have stated that while he was a asshole, and was a awful in the field commander, his brutal training made sure they could survive.
>>70305342
Warriors Of Unagi (2000)
>>70309310
>Don't be an jew
Fixed.
>>70309177
not an english speaker, but i remember hearing the expression, her ass is shaped like a peach so i thought it was about ass
>>70309431
I can see how you would make the mistake.
But now you know.
>>70305479
>No services were held for Sobel after his death.
>>70305342
Tiger Tiger Tiger
>>70309221
original post
>He made himself a target by standing ahead and away from them all. The guy looking around with binoculars is likely going to be some kind of officer, not a dime-a-dozen private.
>The guy looking around with binoculars is likely going to be some kind of officer
>binoculars
>officer
The point is that's not what gave him away.
Watch >>70307719 again. He was already standing out in the open and stopped moving. The "stop moving" part was the dumb thing to do. They already knew he was an officer before that.
>>70309424
>Don't be a Jew
Double fixed
>>70308727
>Only after the show aired (or the book was released, I forget) he contacted them and was like "yo I'm alive lol"
>book was released in 93
>show was released in 01
>blithe died in 1967
>>70308851
Most of their casualties were replacements. They weren't nearly as well trained, but more eager to rush in.
>>70309498
>that's not what gave him away.
It might have been, actually. You never know. You're being stupidly pedantic
>>70309336
>>70309353
I dont give a shit but cmon, if it was 2004-2008 whole thread would derailed and would end up with
>this is why we cant have nice things..
Speirs > Winters
>>70309498
As the guy who made the webm.
Just walking out in front with his maps satchel and binoculars out is a dumb thing. Stopping and looking though the binoculars is even more dumb.
Thus - dumb officer gets shot title of webm.
Yes, stopping was dumb as shit, but the NCOs were already asking what the fuck was he doing when he walked out of the group ahead of them with his officer gear hanging out.
>>70309390
fuck, those are kids...
>>70309498
Nah, it was the binoculars. The bar is too small to see.
>>70309590
>actually defending shitty memeposting just because nobody acknowlede his muh 9000 post
r4chan was a mistake
>>70309390
You can be the most physically fit man in the world but if your leader is retarded you're going to die.
I would attribute their survival more to winters than sobels training. I'm sure any company under winters command would have done just as well as easy.
Which was the whole point of Dike. To show how a shitty leader will get everyone killed.
I just don't see how Sobel's training is the factor in their survival at all. The Airborne already had extremely tough training.
>>70309591
Lipton > Speirs > Winters
>>70309115
>repeat until almighty US sniper hits you right in the eye tru scope
white feather, best sniper that ever lived
>>70308727
On 10 December 1967, while on active duty in Germany, Blithe felt nauseated when he returned from a weekend at Bastogne, Belgium, where he had taken part in the ceremonies commemorating the Battle of the Bulge. On 11 December 1967 Blithe was taken to the emergency room at Wiesbaden Hospital, Germany, where he was admitted with a diagnosis of a perforated ulcer. He died in the intensive care unit, on 17 December 1967 after surgery, and was buried in Arlington National Cemetery with full honors.[7]
In the mini-series and the book it incorrectly states that Blithe died December 17, 1948, due to never fully recovering from his injury (bullet to the neck).
Fellow Easy Company Currahee veterans interviewed while writing the book and mini-series had believed that Blithe was wounded in the neck, and that he did not recover and as such Ambrose's book stated that Blithe had died in Philadelphia in 1948. This carried over into episode 3, "Carentan," which ends with a slide stating that "Albert Blithe never recovered from the wounds he received in Normandy. He died in 1948." Though his family publicly corrected this error, not all editions of the book, or of the series, have the correction.
>>70309590
Yeah it's a real shame some shitty anime meme and trips doesn't derail a thread anymore, right?
>>70308919
1. There were jewish resistance groups
2. For an armed resistance, you need support of the locals. If the locals don't like you, you're shit out of luck.
>>70309622
SADF from the 1980s. South Africa at the time had national service.
>>70309630
According to the men of easy company who actually survived, they give credit to the physical training he gave them to help them survive.
>>70309624
>The bar is too small to see
huehuehue
>>70309605
my favorite scene of the series was Winters getting so fed up with Dike's bullshit he grabs his rifle and starts charging the field in his awesome as fuck captains outfit.
>>70309522
Nigga, I meant what I said.
>>70309544
Idk I read it on wiki or something
>>70309753
>>70309753
>my favorite scene of the series was Winters getting so fed up with Dike's bullshit he grabs his rifle and starts charging the field in his awesome as fuck captains outfit.
Stealth request?
Give me a min
>>70309729
>company who actually survived, they give credit to the physical trainin
You can keep saying this over and over but I don't believe it. They also credit winters as the reason for their surviving as well.
I'm just sainyg, IN MY OPINION, their training would have been pretty fucking good already in the airborne and it was their leader that really got them through the toughest battles. Their fitness meant fuck all when Dike took command.
>>70309806
not the guy you replied to, but i guess im not going to bed until i see this webm now
>>70309126
I seem to remember one of the post or pre episode interview segments with the real guys mentioning it.
>>70309806
if you do, I don't know how long it took but so much justice was felt when Dike's cover get's obliterated by a direct artillery hit.
>>70308928
I think it was before Children of Dune. He's really fucking young in both though so I'm not 100% sure.
>>70305735
But you still did it didn't you bitch? That's why you are still NEET.
I love being a teacher.
>>70309824
>God damnit nya Winters, you're a captain of the US army NYA! in charge of a battalion NYA Git' your ass back her' right NYA~W!
>>70308152
This.
Some of my worst bosses were assholes, and their companies suffered.
You can't be pricks to the people that work with you and expect them to stick around very long...or give a shit about you.
>>70309822
okay - and I will keep thinking the guys who lived it might understand it better then a anon who wasn't.
>>70309824
Give me one more second, had to redo as I have one frame clipping out
>>70309882
I can make that next.
>>70309942
I love that part where Winters is being chastised by that guy and he just talks over him to send someone else in to relive Dike of his position.
>>70309893
just checked, BoB was first
>>70309824
>>70309942
>>70310070
awesome thanks.
You can just fucking hear that guys accent when he says GIT BACK HER'
>>70310070
>>70310150
Also, I know it would look incredibly autistic and fedora as fuck but I want that coat so badly.
>>70310070
>>70305115
Because he forgot toPIVOT
>>70310187
Speirs fuckin shrugging off that artillery shell like fuckin iron man.
I watched this recently with my GF that had never seen it before and she was so hard for Speirs and I honestly couldn't blame her.
>>70310187
Did Dike actually die here? I thought he moved.
>>70310176
American WW2 uniforms were awesome.
Working on Spears run. Since I have the webm software up, any other BoB requests?
Speirs was such a crazy motherfucker
>>70310267
in real life
Dike received his law degree from Yale Law School in 1947, became a member of the New York Bar in 1949 and the District of Columbia Bar in 1954. From 1950–1953, he was a U.S. Commissioner in Japan. He also worked for the Central Intelligence Agency from 1951–1953. He then practiced law in New York City and in Washington, D.C. He was a member of the legal fraternity Phi Delta Phi.[20]
In 1954, Dike moved to New Mexico to prospect for uranium.[21] He was an officer of the U.S. Uranium Company, United Western Minerals Company and other oil and mining interests in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and Las Vegas, Nevada.[1] On 12 March 1957, Dike wed Catherine Pochon; his residences were listed as Thompson, Connecticut, and Santa Fe.[22] In October 1958 Dike was elected to the Board of Trustees of the Theodore Roosevelt Association. He visited to Thompson, Connecticut and Providence in November 1958. In 1959, Dike, his wife and baby left Santa Fe for Switzerland; it was his intention to study at the International School of Law at The Hague. Dike resigned his positions as vice president and comptroller of United Western Minerals Company in Santa Fe but continued as a director.[23] By 1959, he had established a law practice in Lausanne, Switzerland.[24] In 1960, Dike became a permanent resident of Switzerland.[1]
Dike died in Rolle, Switzerland, on 23 June 1989 after a long illness. He was survived by his two daughters, his son, and two grandchildren
>>70310070
Look, Binoes and maps covered, front of helmet blacked out in officers, one officer using Binos is in the fucking woods.
>>70310270
I like to think that tank was actually backing up to run away from Speirs. "OH GOD WE GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE HES RUNNING RIGHT AT US"
Some of the artillery strikes would be cool. That shit would have been terrifying to go through.
They really didn't cover the whole shell shock aspect that much in BoB. They really showed how absolutely soul destroying war is in The Pacific though.
>>70305115
Holy fuck, I was just watching this for the first time a few minutes ago. I'm up to episode 7, and damn was this episode fucking great.
Was just about to make a post about how much of a faggot Lt. Dyke is, and how he got alot of Easy men killed. Can't wait for episode 8
>>70310270
Speirs is a fucking badass.
>>70310423
They did have a whole episode on the mental toll of the war.
>Name it easy company
>give it the hardest and suicidal missions
why is this allowed
>>70310537
It all just seemed kinda light as it only affected a couple of the main characters. Buck and Malarke were the only ones to have any sort of PTSD.
The pacific was literally everyone. Soldiers turning into soulless killing machines with no regard for life in every episode.
BoB seemed so much more... hopeful. Like "Yea, we are gonna win this and go home!" in The Pacific it was all "Were going to die here covered in maggots and shit aren't we?" with all the characters being tragically effected by the horrors of war.
>>70310537
This. And this was how it should have been done.
With The Pacific it did show how souls destroying and monstrous it was but that shit just ultimately made the series kinda boring.
>>70310650
>Why does it seem Easy company is always either leading the assault or on the thin edges of the line?
>>70310667
And that is why BoB is better then The Pacific.
>>70309723
1.well, considering whole religion/race of people was in brink of actual extinction, you would expect some form of camaraderie , while they looked to save their material things(this was the hook Nazis got them(yes,you can take 2 bags with you, we will relocate you in beautiful resort in Poland)
2.Trust me, Partisans were communists , no one liked them(actually hated them more than Germans), but they managed to arm themselves and even form some semblance of real army.
>>70310746
All this BoB stuff makes me want to load up and play a WW2 game.
>>70310678
I didn't like The Pacific as much as I did Band of Brothers the first time I saw it but on multiple viewings it's easily my favorite.
Those guys had it fucking ROUGH even compared to Easy. On the far edges of the world no where close to society fighting a radical enemy that was indoctrinated to believe their leader was a god. An enemy that would fight to the very last man and wouldn't think twice about running into gunfire in suicidal charges.
>>70310667
>>BoB seemed so much more... hopeful. Like "Yea, we are gonna win this and go home!" in The Pacific it was all "Were going to die here covered in maggots and shit aren't we?" with all the characters being tragically effected by the horrors of war.
I remember my grandpa telling me that the european theatre was full of hope while the pacific one was just despair
>>70310793
I started playing COD1-2 + United Defense again, just because of BoB.
>>70310356
>>70310270
>>70310070
If someone didn't know spears was based on an actual person, they'd probably stop watching because what he does seems like such over the top action-movie bullshit.
>>70310894
I might acutally play Silent Hunter 3 Grey wolves again.
>nothing like sinking British shipping.
>>70305342
Apt Pupil
>>70310917
hauling ass across an open field of fire to communicate with an isolated group of men is fucking crazy.
running back across that same open field of fire to return to your men is downright unbelievable.
>>70305342
"Who Ate My Fruit?" by Woody Allen
>>70310746
Why is it so boring? It showed that even despite those horrors the marines were able to do their jobs and how a marine would do anything to fight for the man next to him.
It had a lot more character development. It had fresh, idealized young men interacting with the already hardened vets. it showcased how terrible the environment was and how it was just as much an enemy as the Japs were.
The big difference in The Pacific was just how different the enemy was. In BoB the germans are just other white guys living in cities and towns similar to the ones Easy company came from.
In the Pacific everything was completely alien to the Marines. The jungles, the Japaense, and even Japans tactics using in battle. It creates a completely different atmosphere and you could see just how these Marines would lose their connection to the world and their humanity.
>>70305342
Friends 3: The fall of an empire (In which the titular friends experience the horrors of war in the trenches of verdun, guest starring Simon Pegg as 'private Stack' and Idris Elba as himself)
>>70305479
The things is, Sobel may have been an asshole, but the training Easy company recieved was top notch, and a lot of those men came back from that war alive, Sobel is the unsung hero of the show, he's only doing his job to the best of his abilities.
>>70310892
It just had to be. They were fighting on islands completely burned to ash and rock. No signs of life anywhere but from the little burrows the japs would pop up from. No water, no trees for cover hot humid temperature... just razor edged rocks covered in ash and blood. The marines didn't get weekend passes to go visit Paris and fuck bitches. They would just go to some other shitty little island where disease tried to kill you and crabs trying to pinch your balls when you took a shit. Nearly every Marine in the pacific had dysentery, malnutrition, and dehydration.
Being in the Navy wouldn't be much better. Tight quarters with little access to sunlight. Just metal cans that echoed the sounds of cannon fire. My neighbor is like.. 96 years old at this point and was in the Navy during ww2. He had lost most of his hearing just from their own guns. He doesn't like to talk about it all that much so I have no idea what exactly he had been through but it couldn't have been good,
>>70310894
>>70310971
Man, Early 00's WW2 games were so good.
>>70309793
Fucking liar lol
Daily reminder that there was no moral justification for the US to wage war on Europe and that every amerifat soldier that fought there is a war criminal.
>>70305115
Why does Juice guy hate peaches
>>70305115
It's homeland guy here?
I also heard the big guy is in BoB
>>70311424
Germany had no moral justification either
Nor the Brits
or French
or ruskies
or poles
war doesnt have any good justification
>>70310678
>made the series kinda boring.
That's kind of the point. 10 minutes of shooting and hours of waiting around. BoB feels like a melancholy patriotic series about the Greatest Generation. The Pacific felt like the Generation Kill of WW2. All the heroes get gunned down because they were still regular people in horrible situations. Their Speirs gets sniped and Ack Ack is just like Winters and he gets blasted by a sniper. There's a few tears but they have to move on. Then we see civilians get massacred. None of it was suppose to make you go "whoa that was awesome" like Spiers running across the field.
Even Snapfu breaksseeing the booby trapped babies and the Imps using civilians as shields.
>>70310917
They actually had to tone down some of the feats of the men of easy company to make it seem more realistic.
>>70311492
>war doesnt have any good justification
Then why do you glorify these people as heroes?
>>70308492
t. yuropoor suddenly thinks he's american
>>70305735
There are plenty of good reasons to be tough in the army, but teaching kids the same way is retarded.
>>70311626
There's a faint sarcasm in his words tho. I know it was too subtle, just read it again.
>>70308884
renly's peaches
>>70308421
BoB is more satisfying, fun, back-patting
The Pacific is the patrician choice. Not implying that one's better than the other... just for the record.
>>70311424
baiting this hard.
But I know people that actually believe shit like this. That "war" is bad bad bad bad no matter what. That there is ALWAYS a better solution.
These people don't live in reality. They truly believe every person on the planet is reasonable. These people are idiots that have watched too many movies. Yes, that works both wars. Idiots glorify war, and idiots like to think they are better than everyone else.
Pacifists are the worst kind of people. They piss on the people that they rely on to be able to practice their bullshit ideas.
>>70310537
>fake studio forest
>shakycam x9000
worst episodes
>>70311645
>A faint sarcasm
This isn't a line delivery. You're either that cocksucker or relating too much to him. Americans can embarrass themselves well enough without you having to impersonate them
>>70311748
lol what
They also had scenes where the camera flows smoothly through the destruction.
Complaining about shaky cam in the middle of AN ARTILLERY STRIKE is fucking retarded.
>>70311826
the bastogne episode was really good
>>70308421
Generation Kill.
>>70310667
>The pacific was literally everyone.
I wouldn't be surprised if everyone who participated in the pacific theater had PTSD.
>>70311862
Bastogne was so good I rewatch it from time to time.
>>70311962
The scene with Sledge just giving the biggest "Just shut the fuck up faggot" look to the lemonade stand guy is the best.
Anyone had any VAT 69
>>70305479
>9mm
>>70308919
>warrior class
Fighting in a tank children with rocks doesnt make You a warrior David.
Anyway the warrior thing died with WWI.
>not liking The Pacific
Your passes are revoked.
>>70310356
>Dike moved to New Mexico to prospect for uranium
URAAANIUM FEEVER
>>70311733
Wrong.
>>70312216
But Krav Maga is the best hand to hand combat style in the world, folded over 1000 times.
>>70308553
Why would they list it as malnutrition? Malnutrition would obviously be the fault of the people looking after them. Can't they just list their deaths as "natural causes"? If they don't have the presence of mind to even eat then it wouldn't be wrong to say senescence was the cause.
>>70312550
Probably a coroner or doctor listed his cause of death, rather than the retirement place.
>>70312621
What country do you live in? I would imagine that would "malnutrition" would be grounds for a lawsuit.
>>70312742
I'm not the retirement home guy, just chipping in. And yeah it probably would be.
>>70312336
>wrong
lol ok.
how does it feel to be a worthless cunt the relies on people to protect you like the coward you are?
>>70313027
There are two kinds of people in the world
Those that cry for help, and those that stand on their own.
>>70313129
Also thieving gypsies.
>>70308110
It gets worse. Before his suicide his wife divorced him and started a family with a new man. His son became a draft dodging hippie at Berkley. When he died in the hospital, his ex wife and kids never even knew.
>To Michael’s ( Sobels son) knowledge, a memorial service was not held. “Our contact with him had waned over the years,” Michael said, “and when he passed we were unaware of the event. His sister attended to the details. It was days, perhaps even a week, after he died that his sister phoned my mom to let her know.”
http://www.marcusbrotherton.com/unvarnished-truth-captain-herbert-sobel/
>>70311124
The Pacific is hamfisted and not that great.
Because it's United States Army property.
>>70312742
They will claim they refused to eat.
>>70305115
>Why the fuck did he get rid of somebody for having a can of peaches?
First, because he could. Second, because thieves should be strung up by the neck and hung until dead.
The hardest part about being in the military is weeding out all the shit-bags that they allow in, graduate from basic moron training, and ship to a line unit where they become a liability to morale, cohesion, and the effectiveness of the unit.
>>70314276
>national guard
>>70314040
Oh, is this the board where people just say stupid shit with literally nothing to back them up? Is that how this works?
How? It was never over the top with it's representation of war and it's effects. I can't think of a single scene where I went "oh come on really?"
There are a lot of movies and shows that do the whole "I DON'T WANNA FIGHT WAR IS TERRIBLE" but The Pacific sure as fuck isn't one of them.
>>70310270
If you're still making webms, can you webm the opening of the episode crossroads? One of my favourite scenes of the whole series.
>>70309630
>I just don't see how Sobel's training is the factor in their survival at all.
Their mutual hatred for Sobel formed a strong bond within their platoons and company, and when you have a cohesive team that is physically and mentally tough, then you've got a pretty bad ass organization.
This is why chicks and faggots have been excluded from military and combat organizations in every decent military, because they fuck up that cohesion, which makes the unit WORSE.
>>70308289
yeah, use a 12guage not a small cal. pistol
>>70314399
>>national guard
And?
That fat bastard is no different than a lot of other fat bastards that exist in the conventional force.
He's a clear demonstration of how so many shitty "leaders" in the military don't give a fuck about standards, which makes their units shitty, and makes OUR military shitty.
See: females and faggots.
Can you imagine Sobel doing the Brecourt Manor Assualt? Half of Easy's good cast would be wiped out on day one.
>>70314761
how to spot someone that really dosent know anything about the millitary outside of 4chan
>>70310176
I have one. I only wear it if the weather calls for it though.
>>70314670
See, the part that makes me think sobel wasn't the biggest influence on their survival is the fact after a few weeks of D-Day most of Easy was replacements. Seeing how the army mixes recruits with more the vets means they weren't fighting along with the same people they had training with for 90% of their war.
So their "Band of Brothers" connections wouldn't have been with the Sobel trainees but between whoever they were fighting with in their unit.
That's why I believe Winters wasn't a much larger influence on Easy's performance than Sobel.
>>70315149
You just gotta REALLY look the part though. I'm not fat but I'm not exactly fit either. If I beef up some I could probably pull it off.
It's like fedora and suit. Yeah, Bogart and Harrison Ford can pull it off but the kind of people that do wear them just fucking don't.
>>70308884
*birds flying away*
>>70305115
Because he literally fucking stole them, that's why.
People were flogged for the same thing in past decades.
>>70308421
Rome
>>70314761
You've never actually served, have you?
>>70314995
How to spot somebody that's been a conventional leg pog in the military....
![BoB e01_Currahee_RollHD.mkv_snapshot_00.15.17_[2015.06.09_16.40.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ufmcbJo.jpg "BoB e01_Currahee_RollHD.mkv_snapshot_00.15.17_[2015.06.09_16.40.39].jpg")
Fassy
>>70315249
>So their "Band of Brothers" connections wouldn't have been with the Sobel trainees but between whoever they were fighting with in their unit.
Nah, "plank members" of any organization always form the strongest bonds, and essentially become the "big brothers" to the noobs.
>>70315423
see:>>>>>70315607
if he had his own pool would he call it his Schwimming Pool
>>70314761
>females
Female snipers in the Red Army racked up thousands of kills against what was the best army the world had ever seen.
>faggots
See: Ancient Greece
>>70315702
Ahh, a nonrebuttal. Thanks for confirming! Here's your (You)! (You) earned it!
>>70315842
>against what was the best army the world had ever seen.
Red army fought the Roman empire?
>>70315842
>Female snipers in the Red Army racked up thousands of kills against what was the best army the world had ever seen.
How many kills did the men get vs. the bitches?
It's not hard shooting idiots that ignore cover and concealment with a scoped rifle.
Regardless, females are anchors in any unit and slow the men down, and they initiate a biological drive in men that doesn't exist between normal men, this leads to the division of men against themselves due to the fact that some will try to fuck them, others will try to white knight for them (like you), and still others will resent them for the negative impact they have on the unit.
Chicks are a joke.
>See: Ancient Greece
You mean the guys that earned their reputation fighting the same losers that have gotten their asses kicked by EVERY western army ever fielded against them? The guys that lost to the Romans, who in turn got THEIR asses kicked by ze Germans?
Great example.
Sorry, but the faggotry in Greece has been played up by faggots trying to convince people that their birth defect is "normal".
There is NO room in a military organization for romantic / sexual relationships, be they faggots or normal people.
>>70315953
Sure, mr. supply guy / mechanic / water purification specialist....
>>70308790
>He didnt had to be a good soldier
I have a feeling you wouldn't like being dropped into a warzone being led by a control freak who can't read a map
>>70313982
;_;7
>>70309897
>I love being a teacher.
Hello, reddit!
>>70314600
the whole Japanise guy trying to get shot in the water was hamfisted.
>>70314620
Have you seen the mini documentary where winters explains the whole episode
>>70316580
(You)
