What made X-Men 2 so great?
>>70303227
Huge Acktman
>>70303227
>The Nightcrawler White House Scene
>The Wolverine X-Mansion Scene
>Overall rapport between Xavier and Charles.
>Mystique wasn't an annoying ugly whore.
And that's just off the top of my head.
>>70303258
>brian cox being evil in a position of high authority
>"no charles! get out of my mind charles!" scene
>wolverine vs lady deathstrike
>based colossus and shadowcat cameos
other than that, pretty mediocre
>pyro and iceman dick measuring contest
>rogue does nothing
>honey, have you tried NOT being a mutant?
>>70303227
Why is this Nigralle Berry in the front and near wolverine on the cover? Why the fuck? She has nothing to do for the plot or relation with him.
Fucking correctness.
No idea, even I use to think it was great but after watching it recently it wasn't that great. It's got some good stuff but it's not as good as people keep saying.
>>70303603
Halle won an Academy the previous year.
>>70303227
it followed a painfully underwhelming disappointment of a movie
Famke Janssen aged horribly.
>>70303642
>won
>was given due to her colour as a token of nigger appreciation
>>70303642
she was pissed her character basically did only 2 things in the entire movie
>>70303701
Here we go again..
>>70303655
have you seen her in The Wolverine though?
>>70303701
>it's a /pol/ tries to derail the thread with Jewish and negro hatred episode.
Fuck off with your bait, stormfag.
>>70303740
CGI was used.
>>70303762
stop giving them (you)s then, morons
>>70303762
>>70303725
>Hatred
I just your and the whole greedy hollywood hypocracy
What makes an X mans poo so great?
>>70303603
They had a relationship going in DOFP but the scene got cut.
>>70303227
Nightcrawler
>>70303822
mutation!
>>70303258
>Overall rapport between Xavier and Charles.
Xavier IS Charles
>>70303959
kek, i actually missed that
I watched X-Men 1 the other day for the first time in like atleast 7 years. It's still good, but I really hated how forced the Jean and Logan "romance" is. Nothing happened, he just thinks she's hot.
>>70304041
It's Famke fucking Jansen man, you don't any other reason.
>>70304087
I guess. I'll watch X-Men 2 tomorrow, it's been the same amount of time since I watched that aswell
I don't think I'll watch 3, hated it.
>>70303258
>Mystique wasn't an annoying ugly whore.
Rebecca Romijn's Mystique was fucking perfect. So sensual & deadly. I miss her.
>>70304127
3 wasn't as bad as I remembered, there was some good stuff in there if you go in already knowing that it's shit compared to 1 and 2
Were there any shots of Rebecca Romijn's pusy lips or butt slit in these x man movies?
>Based theme music
>Emotional ending/tease for Phoenix
>Mystique espionage scenes/infiltrating Stryker's dam
>Magneto's escape from plastic prison
>Brutal Wolverine vs Deathstrike
>Brian Cox
>Pic related scene
>>70303655
>Hi Im a dumb tripfag with stupid opinions
We get it already.
I wish they kept more music in the films for continuity sake, X-Mens soundtrack is one of the most memorable capeshit music
https://youtu.be/BLmaJea4ZoU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=padpEYIkq4c
>>70303512
>other than that, pretty mediocre
Which puts it head and shoulders over most of capeshit.
Honestly, it's pretty decent. Doesn't hit the highs of 80's and 90's blockbusters, but I can't think of many from the 2000's that are any better.
>>70305823
>Which puts it head and shoulders over most of capeshit.
canned response.txt
You'd find a better argument in your couch.
>>70305857
It wasn't an argument. I was just saying. You think superhero films are a bastion of excellence or something? The genre is a dumping ground.
>>70303227
It had a lot of great but short scenes, but to be honest rewatching it you realize this movie is mostly filler.
>>70306034
>this movie is mostly filler
In what way?
>>70306075
not enough quips
>>70303253
HugeActor
>>70306075
Key scenes are great,
>Nightcrawler in the white house
>Mansion fight at night (The fight in the lab was more or less shot the same but still a lot of fun)
>Mystique and Wolverine were great together
But a lot of time the movie seemed to be waiting around killing time for the next scene to start, lucky you had Brian Cox, Xavier, Wolverine, Magneto and Mystique to make those scenes watchable. But for the most part I feel the movie is dragging it's feet. It's a good movie but it stops itself from being great.
X1 was so shitty it made X2 look great when it came out.
The art style/camerawork givong it an eerie aura
Aliens and Terminator 2 did that too, hard to pinpoint what it is
>>70305491
It's basically RR wearing nothing but a g-string and pasties then painted blue, no pussy shots but you can see every detail of her perfect ass if you play her scenes in slow motion
>>70306193
>movie seemed to be waiting around killing time
It's called character development. It's this strange thing films used to do before they became 2 hour amusement rides.
>>70306214
X1 was good until Wolverine goes to the mansion, then it just becomes a chore of ticking boxes.
>>70306343
It really wasn't, it added very little to anyone except Wolverine.
You could cut those scenes and the characters wouldn't be any different.
>Tried to turn Pyro and Iceman into characters but forgot to actually develop them.
>Wolverine just learns a bit about his past but doesn't change.
>Xavier and Charles remain the same.
>Mystic is into Wolverine, that's the fall depth.
>Storm and Nightcrawler may be into each other, but it doesn't matter as he's missing in the third
>Rouge is just there hanging out
>>70304041
Rewatched last week for the first time in about a decade, it's certainly no masterpiece but it's so much better than modern capeshit that it legitimately made me depressed.
P.s. the original X-Men has got to be one of the scariest capeshit titles other than Hellboy, it's more sci-fi/horror than straight sci-fi
>>70306441
You're... really dumb, kid. Underage?
What made X-Men 2 great?
Well, that's because the core conflict is a philosophical conflict between Xavier and Magneto, and the consequences of their conflict affects the whole world.
It's one of the big problems with Civil War, especially when it feels like the Sokovia Accords does not tie into the search and rescue of Bucky Barnes.
>>70306454
Kek, I remember when it first came out my local video store put the original X-men movie in the horror/thriller section because of how scary it was
>>70306441
>Xavier and Charles remain the same.
THEY ARE THE SAME PERSON
You are this guy >>70303258 again. Did you come in here to praise and then shit on the movie like a dumb troll?
>>70306441
Singer cannot into romance, literally every romance subplot in X-men has been awkward and forced as fuck, the only half decent romance was the unspoken sexual tension between Rogue and Logan
The fundamental problem with the Xmen movies is they tried so hard to not be a superhero movie they forgot to be anything else. Blade 1 and 2 and Spider-Man 1 and 2 did what they tried to do but much much better.
The first one wasn't even too good at the time, X-2 was but like >>70306193 say's, so much of the movie is redundant.
If you think Storm and Nightcrawler's relationship was supposed to be a budding romance, you might be borderline retarded.
>>70306589
Daily reminder that Mystique wasn't originally going to be nude in X-men, Rebecca Romijn specifically asked to portray her character completely nude
>>70306644
B A S E D
>>70306537
Sorry I realized what I did right after I posted, I had just read >>70303258 and got distracted.
>>70306505
You clearly haven't seen any movies if you think the x-men movies are some how a highlight of film making. They aren't even a high light of the genre.
Many of those scenes consist of no character development, no exposition, no world building. They aren't even used to explore most character interactions. It's always just more of the same. If it weren't for Valkyrie and Apt Pupil I wouldn't believe Singer is capable of directing a great movie.
Stryker did nothing wrong
>>70306644
Now THAT's a true woman.
>>70303227
Good characters, interesting story, threatening antagonist, and good action scenes.
>>70306644
That's pretty based of her. She could have worn the white dress she wears in the comics and nobody would have bitched, but she went above and beyond to make her performance and character much more memorable.
>>70303227
No stronk womyn bullshit, fuck Jennifer Lawrence really, Mystique is just a side character and in the latest movie she's literally the protagonist. In the comics Cyclops is what's Captain America for the Avengers or Robin to the Teen Titans.
Best to worst
>First Class
>X-2
>X-men
>Days of Future Past
>The Wolverine
>X-Men Origins: Wolverine
>X-Men Apocalypse (Better made then Origins but less entertaining)
>X-Men: The Last Stand
>>70306671
I never understood why they styled her hair in such an ugly way until I realised it was because it made it easier to animate during the CGI parts
>>70306748
They always fail to cast a proper Cyclops.
>>70306687
>You clearly haven't seen any movies if you think the x-men movies are some how a highlight of film making.
I haven't seen any movies? Dude, I was just saying your dumb because your comments about the movie were way off.
>They aren't even a high light of the genre.
Name 5 that are better.
>Many of those scenes consist of no character development, no exposition, no world building.
Judging from what you wrote up-thread, you don't understand what was happening in the film.
>>70306781
>le first class is a good movie meme
Fuck off with this bullshit already. To say it's a good movie is already ridiculous as it is. To say it's better than X2 or even the first one is already insulting
>>70306827
It's weird considering there's probably no shortage of hunky dudes with brown hair in Hollywood
>>70306833
You're*
D'oh
>>70306781
>X2
>X-men
>DoFP
>First Class
>X3
>Apocalypse
>The Wolwerine
>Origins
Are the Wolverine movies really that bad? Never watched them.
>>70306896
The first one is genuinely entertaining if you like unintentionally funny movies
>>70306896
Origins is total shit and doesn't even matter now because of days of future past and deadpool so you can just forget it even exists.
The Wolverine was a bit better and probably a bit more enjoyable than origins so you could give that a watch
>>70306833
>Spider-Man 1
>Spider-Man 2
>Blade
>Blade II
>Batman
>Batman Returns
>Constantine
>Pretty much all the MCU (The X-men 1 and 2 are probably at best on par with Iron Man 2)
>The Dark Knight
>Batman Begins
>Superman
I will give you this, they are better then Fantastic 4 and Catwoman.
The reality is they were good when your a kid, but they were quickly outdone buy everyone else and have aged terribly.
They were okay action for the late 90s early 00s and that's it. They are still watchable, but that's it.
Sorry you can't move on anon.
>>70306781
Good
>X2
Mediocre
>Days of Future Past
>X 1
>Wolverine goes to Japan
Bad
>Apocalypse
>X 3
>"My plan is to nuke the world because mutants will survive it and make them stronger" movie
> X men Oranges
>>70306644
>>70306748
>have almost zero lines and only a couple of minutes of screne time
>still manage to be one of the most memorable parts of the movie
Rebecca Romijn's Mystique was truly based, she had that perfect combination of sexy and scary, JLaw's Mystique just looks and acts like she's being forced to wear a cheap Mystique halloween costume to an X-men LARP
>>70306896
Origins is ALMOST so bad it's good. Just a little less effort, and they would've made a great awful movie.
The Wolverine's alright. Not bad, not good. Alright.
>>70306896
>>70306962 is right about Origins, watch it with a friend and a few drinks and you will have fun.
The Wolverine is completely forgettable I forgot it existed until I was about to post that list. It's not bad enough to be entertaining, nor is it any good. It's just boring and a huge waste of time.
Huge Jacked Man.
>>70306998
yeah. Street Fighter is so bad it's good. Xmen Origins is just a fucking abomination
>>70306827
The casting wasn't a problem, it was Bryan Singer's boner for Hugh Jackman and Wolverine that basically replaced Cyclops as the leader.
Hell the new kid is actually pretty great as a young Cyclops, but this time gets tossed aside thanks to that fucking Oscar winning cunt.
>>70306896
They're not exactly bad, just very inconsistent in quality and kinda boring, lot's of missed opportunities in them where they poorly adapted good plotlines from the comic like Logan losing his healing ability(and yet still recovering almost immediately from being shot six times wtf)
>>70305454
>>70305823
>>70305907
>>70306075
>>70306343
>>70306454
>>70306505
>>70306833
>>70306834
I see the fanboys are suicidal because their mediocre nostalgia flick aged like milk.
>>70303227
Nightcrawler
>>70307132
except nobody says that.
X2 is still seen as the best of the series
>>70306991
>"My plan is to nuke the world because mutants will survive it and make them stronger" movie
Was that the plot of First Class?
I haven't seen it since it came out, I remember liking it a lot, hence>>70306781
Seemed like it would have been a good starting point for say an HBO series or something. Probably the best format to tell an X-Men story. Plus it was before Jennifer Lawrence stopped acting.
So we're just going to forget Angel could grow his fucking wings back?
>>70307175
The best movie of a series that ranges from mediocre to complete trash is still mediocre.
>>70307195
Yeah, literally retarded. That's why I thought Apocalypse was going to nuke the world or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9_Hv5oRhHs
>>70307207
After that he hit puberty and it gave him his wings back. Happened to me.
>>70307175
>responding seriously to blatant bait
>>70303603
Her and Jackman had the most star power at the time soooooooooooo....eat a dick
>>70307245
Huh, I think I need to rewatch it, I will maintain it's my favorite, but it's clear I remember very little.
I have no idea what the actual plot was but I remember it was the only one that felt like an X-Men movie.
>>70307207
All he did was scratch some skin and feathers off of his wings with the implements in his box of nightmares, he clearly didn't cut them off and then regrow them
>>70307269
In all seriousness, X-2 is just okay at best.
I also enjoyed the era, but like most things from then, it's shit.
>>70306978
Judging by your list, you're still dumb. Really dumb.
>>70303227
the first one is better imo
>>70307324
You mean the movies everyone who moved on from 2003 accepts as superior and better made. Sure kiddo, stay butt hurt.
You probably still think the first Matrix is the best Sci-Fi ever made.
>>70307207
Of course, Warren has healing powers similar to Logan in the comics, he can even heal other people via blood transfusion
>>70307324
>>70307175
>>70306833
>>70306834
>>70306343
The butthurt in this thread. It's fucking amazing.
>>70307321
So is there any capeshit that you think is good or do you just hate the whole genre?
>>70307064
You can see how they tried to make Cyclops lead in X1 but Wolverine just overshadows him.
>>70306748
If they want a stronk womyn then why they don't use post-Ms.Marvel Rogue?, she is fucking badass and probably the most liked female superhero in MU.
>>70307384
>You probably still think the first Matrix is the best Sci-Fi ever made.
No, I'd say Blade Runner is.
>>70307444
So is the samefagging.
>>70307292
It saddens me the average attention span, care for details, and memory of the average person. Born too late to discover the world but born just in time to see a live action version Idiocracy.
>>70307445
X-2 is almost good,I like the first act of the first one, I put them with the likes of Batman Begins, and the Incredible Hulk, they are almost quite good.
>First two Superman,
>Batman
>Batman Returns
>The Dark Knight
>Batman and Robin (I really think it's misunderstood and a lot of fun returning to the camp of Adam West.
>Spider-man 2 is a masterpiece
>Spider-man
>I enjoyed Man of Steel ( I don't think I would enjoy it watching it again)
>The first two Blade movies.
>Most of the MCU I really enjoy, although never really feel the need to rewatch, also they need to achieve a third act that's stronger then the second beyond Ant-man.
>>70307585
If you remember all the details of a movie you saw 5 years ago you must be a Neet.
>>70307585
>Revising a movie from years ago to memory
Was it autism?
>>70307453
She served the plot of the original trilogy perfectly in her role as a tragic mutant who's powers were not a gift but a curse. Honestly I'm glad that they didn't include mai waifu in the First Class continuity, she probably would have just ended up being Jennifer Lawrence with a blonde streak in her hair
>>70306781
>>70307195
>>70306991
First Class had the best character development of the franchise, but the villain motivation was need fleshing out.
>>70303603
She was a big star at the time. Even more then Famke.
>>70307696
She served a purpose the first one, but was nothing but dead weight in the second.
>>70305454
X2 is still a good movie.
also, Famke was a 10/10
>>70307612
Curious as to why you think X2 is dated and mediocre but S2 is a masterpiece considering they came out at nearly the same time, got similar reviews and both consistently appear at the top of lists of best capeshit
>>70307612
>Spider-man 2 is a masterpiece
>Spider-man
It amazes me whenever people talk shit about the X-Men films and then go on to suck Raimi's dick for his shitty, cringe inducing spider flicks. What's more amazing is that the same people treat Spider-Man 3 like a botched abortion when it's only marginally worse.
>>70303227
Nightcrawler
>>70303227
Nothing. It was okay, but when you finish puberty you realize it's nothing special.
>Always liked Gambit and Rogue in the cartoons when I was a kid
>No Gambit in the movies
>Rogue is little damsel in distress kid before she stole ms marvel's powers
One day I looked up what happens to them in the comics and wish I didn't. Comics are so stupid.
>>70307777
One day you'll grow up and move on to the better superhero films, listed here:
>>70306978
>>70306896
The Origins movie is almost so bad it great. the workprint version really is so bad it great.
>>70307772
Meh, she was a bit of a dead weight in X2(although her romance was the least forced in the trilogy) and her role in X3 was tiny but crucial since it established that not all mutants were getting the cure just because "muh oppression and prejudice against mutants" I'll admit that I'm biased because she's one of my favourite characters tho and I liked how she was portrayed
>>70307790
The writing and execution. Kirsten Dunst was miscast but beyond that they are pretty much flawless. The problem with X-2 is that when things work they work really really well, but those scenes are few and far between. I really think X-2 is held in such high regard because of nostalgia.
Spider-Man 2 wasn't just a great superhero movie it was a genuinely great movie.
>It amazes me whenever people talk shit about the X-Men films and then go on to suck Raimi's dick for his shitty, cringe inducing spider flicks. What's more amazing is that the same people treat Spider-Man 3 like a botched abortion when it's only marginally worse.
I hope your autism is treated soon kiddo. Be the best you you can be.
>>70307827
errr, naaa
X2 is better then all the cape movies except
(In alphabetical order)
Avengers
Batman Begins
Capt America 2
GotG (if you count that as cape)
Spider-man 2
>>70307794
X3 might have had it's flaws but at least it didn't have Spiderman with emo bangs doing elaborate dance sequences, Sandman was GOAT tho
Why do Marvel characters like Nightcrawler continue to believe in the God of Abraham when Norse mythology is canonically real? Can you nerds explain away a plot hole that gigantic?
>>70307800
It was the same story in the cartoon. Claremont's X-Men run was fun as hell and basically made it the huge hit it became. The franchise has never escaped his shadow.
At least we can agree that the x-men movies fare better than The Fantastic Four ones. Fuck they're disappointing.
Magneto's breakout from the vault was pretty awesome
>>70307800
>Always liked Gambit and Rogue in the cartoons when I was a kid
>No Gambit in the movies
>Rogue is little damsel in distress kid before she stole ms marvel's powers
Add beast to this and I feel you, also Wolverine switches between being Wolverine to just Hugh Jackman being Hugh Jackman from scene to scene.
Xavier and Magneto are the only ones who seem to be a decent adaptions of the characters.
>>70306834
first trilogy is shit.
First class was great, yet only because it had the based Hellfire club
>>70307909
I would argue its better then Begins and I'm not even an X-Men fan.
Begins is a pretty clunky movie.
>>70307954
The Asgardians aren't actual Gods, they are aliens that humans mistook for Gods and then they created a religion over it.
>>70306187
Huge Jackedman
X2 had many things going on at the same time, like a comic book story.
>Wolverine's past
>Human / Mutant conflict
>X-Men saving the world.
>Magneto's agenda.
All those stories connected to the main story. It was a literal adaption how to make a comic book movie. Many sidestories connecting the main story in the end.
All I want is a ''Wolverine and Jubilee go on a road trip'' movie. Is that too much to ask?
Regardless of how you feel about these movies, can we at least all agree this franchise needs a complete reboot if it's going to continue.
>>70305569
>>70303740
>>70303655
Don't use a username, you stupid shit.
>>70307900
I'll agree that X2 struggles to juggle it's over 9000 characters and subplots but I still think it's one of the best cape movies even without nostalgia goggles, other than the slightly outdated special effects I think it would still get pretty high reviews if it were released today instead of 13 years ago.
>>70307954
Magic
>>70307968
I read that Gambit fucked Mystique, becomes one of the four horsemen, then is rescued by Mr Sinister and then when reunited with Rogue she just tells him to leave her alone or some dumb shit like that.
>>70308008
I actually find it a better film then TDK due to the fact that the TDK just crash and burns pace wise in the last 30 mins. But I understand not everyone thinks as highly of Begins as I do.
It wasn't that great - it had no shots of Mystiques BARE SOLES
>>70308021
Okay. I guess that would work if not for the fact the Asgardians refer to themselves as gods too. I don't follow the Thor stuff because outside of Beta Ray Bill I think it's goofy.
>>70308090
this - the special effects are dated (as you would expect) but it still a good movie.
>My Face When the best way to adapt X-Men is a TV show
>Marvels Face When it's the only way people would really care about there shows and be the best way to connect the movies to the shows.
>>70308052
I'm guessing they're planning on at least a partial reboot since Hugh Jackman is retiring after the upcoming Wolverine movie and JLaw is presumably retiring now that her three movie contract is finished
>>70307900
>villain is a well meaning scientist who becomes a maniacle super villain after a failed experiment
>just like the villain from the first flick
>genuinely great movie
To even compare garbage like Spider-Man to the worst X-film is a joke.
>>70308090
>X2 struggles to juggle it's over 9000 characters and subplots
But that was the best thing about X2's massive subplots and characters. It was like a comic book story in big screen.
>>70308112
That's a 2000's story. Claremont's first run ended in 1991. Almost everything since has been shit.
>>70308118
I would have to share your opinions there, the end is so forced and seems like Nolan wasn't sure how to end an otherwise good movie you would think Marvel made it.
Begins has a lot of good qualities, and I think if perhaps better polished would have been the best of the Nolan Batman movies.
Im still mad at them casting J. "I can't fucking act for shit" Lawrence for Mystique.
Mystique is supposed to be the embodiment of grace, sexyness and like her fucking name suggests, mistery.
In the recent movies she is literally a useless whinning little shit with 0 purpose other than "muh internal struggles."
>>70308210
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD32P4L4g4A
People honestly don't think x2 was the goat xmen movie
>>70308226
Well she's pushing to come back since she's having difficulty to find work.
It seems like it will just be a soft reboot, even softer than First Class since Singer plans to stay on.
Apparently X-23 will replace Wolverine and that's what the next Wolverine movie is about.
>>70308238
Plebeian autisim, I feel really bad for you anon
>>70308274
Isn't it all the same canon/sequel anyway? I don't read comics, I personally hate how they have so many multiverses and are unable to let shit go. For example, Venom dies, but gets a new host, then another host, then eddie brock gets another symbiote or some retarded shit.
But I guess they gotta keep putting crap out to make money.
>>70308345
I think everyone agrees it was the goat xmen movie, its just the xmen movie franchise is trash.
>>70308223
Mite b cool, considering how successful Daredevil, Gotham and BLACKED have been I could imagine a similar series based around the X-men being GOAT, at least that way they'd have enough time to give some character development to their massive cast of characters
>>70308389
If it makes you feel any better, Eddie Brock got rid of that new symbiote and now has someone else's.
He's also a full villain again, except when he's not and Peter Parker is Bruce Wayne.
>>70308412
Even if Marvel doesn't have it Fox could do it, but they wont because Deadpool.
>>70308295
She was tolerable in first class but then she got famous and her acting went to complete shit because she won an Oscar for no good reason.
>>70308431
Sounds dumb.
>>70308389
Eddie Brock is the X-Men movie franchise of the Spider-Man comics.
>>70308295
Keep in mind that she was dirt cheap when she was originally cast, she only got paid 500k for First Class, they had know way of knowing that she'd turn into an arrogant little cunt when they signed her for a 3 movie contract
>>70308358
>likes capeshit with cartoon character villains
>calls others autistic
>>70308494
Also Peter died again.
But he came back because he never truly died.
Also Doc Oc was Spider-Man.
There was also a Goblin King and army of Green Goblins.
Peter Parker has one of the biggest Tech businesses in the world. A surprising amount of time is spent watching him run in.
Eddie Brock is now Toxin, who was some new character who was the son/spawn of Venom an Carnage. He is an extra roided up Venom essentially.
>>70306896
Get the workprint version of Origins.
It was a 1080p copy of the movie about a month before release on pirate sites and it doesnt have the special effects done yet, just a shitload of concept.
Its fucking hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5AsOEk-ZJU
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>>70308226
JLaw's tune regarding continuing with the franchise has changed lately. She's indicated much more willingness & desire to stay on than had previously been suspected.
That being said, she was really very boring in Apocalypse, much more so than in her previous outings, and it wouldn't bother me terribly if she left. Fuck, you could get Romijn back. She's only 43 and still looks fantastic. If she's not so eager to do the bodypaint look anymore because she's had a couple of kids, they could always go for the white dress look.
>>70308535
Not enjoying Willem Dafoe in almost any role.
1lyk 1 pray
>>70308583
I already heard about that doc oc spiderman thing.
Like I said, fucking dumb.
>>70308583
>>70308431
.... I bet this would have been in the Amazing Spider-Man movies.
>>70308645
Oh he also came back, as a space time ghost when all the Spider-Men from the different universes formed a team, he challenged for the leadership and lost arguing he was the best Spider-Man.
It was brief and served no purpose.
>>70308521
Imagine a world where JLaw remained a nobody and stayed in the background. Also had to continue to endure the make-up instead of that terrible bodysuit because she actually needed and appreciated the job.
I still think she was a terrible casting choice for Mystique, but she would have at least been tolerable if she never got famous.
>>70308467
>Deadpool will never have a 5-10 minute post-credits scene after every episode of the R-rated X-Men tv show that serves to mock the plot of the episode in the same way that the Deadpool comic makes fun of the current storyline of the Marvel universe
Why even live?
>>70308690
This is all confusing.
>>70308690
Whatever
>>70308712
Please Hollywood Jews, fund this mans idea. Will surrender my Aryan mouth
>>70308712
If Marvel made this and did all that, I would watch all of agents of shield and their other shows in return.
>>70308583
To be fair Spiderman has had a lot of fucking retarded plotlines and characters ever since the 60's, for example the one where Doc Oc tries to marry Aunt May for no reason other than to piss off Spiderman, also the over 9000 different clones of Spiderman
>>70308853
Wasn't that because Aunt May was suddenly hot.
>>70308690
>Oh he also came back, as a space time ghost when all the Spider-Men from the different universes formed a team, he challenged for the leadership and lost arguing he was the best Spider-Man.
Top kek, I've actually read this story arc, the best part is that it's portrayed 100% seriously without a hint of irony or self awareness, I have no idea wtf Marvel was smoking when they wrote that shit
>>70308631
Dafoe was good when he wasn't in that ridiculous costume spouting cheesier shit than your typical Power Rangers episode.
>>70308947
I mean't rich.
I'm very tired.
>>70303258
Also that Phoenix shot at the end. (Before they fucked it all up)
>>70308997
I don't think so, she just inheirited some land in Canada and Doc Oc wanted it, honestly I think he was just doing it to fuck with Peter's mind
>>70306748
He's more of what Superman is to the Justice League: a good leader who always follows the rules and tries to do whats right but is kinda boring and one dimensional
>>70306978
75 % of the movies on this list are horrible.
>>70307665
That's some busted ass retard logic if I've ever seen it. I remember everything about the Lion King and I haven't seen it in like 15 years. Guess I've been NEET since I was 12 right?
>>70309031
That shot...that fucking shot of the phoenix in the lake. For some reason it is so fucking epic that it gets me hyped up every time.
I think it's because it is done in a perfect level of restraint that it isn't obvious what that orange light is, but at the same time you know what it's supposed to be. The music also makes 50% of the scene
Nothing, it's full of shit like any other cape and OP
>>70311059
Then you realize she had no reason to be on the ground, she could block the water and lift the plane while on the plane.
>>70307909
>if you count that as cape
Why the fuck wouldn't you? It's a comicbook hero movie just like everything else mentioned in this topic.
>>70311405
You wanted to say "everything else on this board"?
>>70306781
>The Wolverine
>X2
>X-men
POWERGAP
>Apocalypse
>Days of Future Past
>Origins: Wolverine
>First Class
>getting fisted by an AIDS-ridden hobo
>The Last Stand
>>70311486
Yeah sure whatever, still curious what that anon thinks sets GotG apart from the other capeshit.
>>70306187for you.
>>70307207
It's silly to have Angel as a great cage fighter.
All his bones are extremely light and brittle (helping with flight).
>>70305454
is that photoshop or she always had big boobies?
>>70313348
>boobies
Blade
Xmen
Spider-man
Unbreakable
Hulk
X men 2
Spider-man 2
Blade 2
Hellboy
Literally one after another great cape movie. What went so right? Where it went wrong?
Was the secret to avoid sucking the comic book's dick and try to make good films instead of accurate adaptations?
>>70313867
Spiderman 3 is where it went to shit.
I put off killing myself so I could see that before I died.
That was a mistake.
>Cerebro?
I'm gonna watch Apocalypse on the weekend.
I've only ever watched the first three X movies, so I want to binge the rest of them.
I hear a lot of negative stuff about Origins and how it's more of a spin-off.
Can I skip Origins and go straight to First Class?
>>70314026
Skip the Wolverine movies.
>>70311405
Its could pass as a science fiction/space opera film without change.
>>70314026
Yes, the Wolverine in Japan movie is okay, but just go to first class. Origin is balls.
>>70314089
Are they that bad? I hear The Wolverine is set after Last Stand, I kind of wanna see where they go from there.
But I honestly don't care if they're just plain shit
>>70314193
Watch The Wolverine, First Class, Days of Future Past
>>70314193
It's your time. Origins is awful. The Wolverine has its defenders but I think it's pretty dull stuff. Neither are essential to understanding the X-Men storylines. In fact, they aren't even actually consistent.
>>70314026
Origins is written off canon after DoFP so skip it.
Is there a more forgettable movie than "The Wolverine"? I just remember that Wolverine went to Japan and there was some chick with eyes 6 feet apart.
>>70303227
Pyro
>>70303655
based xenia onatopp
she was already in her late 30s when the first one filmed what do you expect
>>70315141
It was great as a small-scale character story for Wolverine. The last act just went to shit and turned into a generic kill the villain plot.
x2 is best because it has best nightcrawler, best jean, best wolverine and best magneto.
>from here it doesnt look like theyre playing by your rules. maybe its timee to play by theirs.
>>70306748
Thats one lazy drawing. They just mirrored half of his face.
>>70313293
silly for nightcrawler too since he wouldnt want to fight and you would have to build a special cages to hold him. its also dumb because they already introduced wolverine by cage fighting scene in the first x-men movie.
What's wrong with this one again?
>>70319195
It's an unremarkable snore that further reduces Wolverine to a generic action hero.
>>70319308
I just remember enjoying the nuke sequence
>>70319394
I forgot all about it. All I really remembered was that Wolverine was angry the hunters were using illegal arrows or something, as if he were a park ranger. Fucking boring.
>>70303258
Mystique is shit since the first movie. Those stupid wire fights with a character that's not even a fighter in the first place.
>>70319516
I thought he was pissed they were hunting a bear.
If you're right, that IS retarded
PLUS, now that I think of it the plot hinges on X3's bullshit
>>70319516
It was like especially cruel arrows or something that caused a lot of pain and prolonged the animal's suffering combined with them failing to track the animal down and finish it.
I think he'd have cared less if he just found a dead bear in general.
>>70319931
>I thought he was pissed they were hunting a bear.
Yeah, but he still brings it up and is angry about it. Why the fuck would Wolverine care?
>>70320169
Why mention their illegality though? Why would he even know this?
Wolverine: an animal, a merciless killer... THESE ARROWS ARE ILLEGAL! Whadda fag.
>>70320225
Because after being forced to kill Jean he becomes a 'pacifist'
>>70320327
And that extends to animals as well? Is he a vegetarian? Does he vote the green party and suck dicks?
Like I said, the character is a bit lost in the film series. More Hugh Jackman than Wolverine.
>>70313954
Why haven't you killed yourself already then? You're not very good at committing, step it up
>>70311277
She needed a better angle or something. I mean, strictly speaking, she didn't, but it's a running theme throughout the movies that mutants' powers are often restricted by their own state of mind, and to be in the right state of mind to do what she needed to do, she felt she needed to be outside the plane.
>>70319811
mystique has been shit in every movie. in x2 she can pilot a helicopter, beat up like 15 guys at once, operate the dam control system, and reproduce lady deathstrikes fingerprints all perfectly. also her appearance in first class makes her like 60 years old or something in x2. she is basically a overpowered plot device for every x-men movie.
also it always pissed me off that singer wanted all the x-men in black outfits cuz muh realism, but it was totally fine to have a bright blue naked mary sue doing back flips and sliding under tables and strangling people with her feet.
>>70320612
>mystique has been shit in every movie. in x2 she can pilot a helicopter, beat up like 15 guys at once, operate the dam control system, and reproduce lady deathstrikes fingerprints all perfectly. also her appearance in first class makes her like 60 years old or something in x2. she is basically a overpowered plot device for every x-men movie.
If you don't like what the films did with the character, fine, but this reads like a list of nitpicks.
>also it always pissed me off that singer wanted all the x-men in black outfits cuz muh realism, but it was totally fine to have a bright blue naked mary sue doing back flips and sliding under tables and strangling people with her feet.
The black leather has always struck as being due to lack of budget. And X1 and 2 were released in a time when comic book movies were thought of as silly.
>>70311059
Ratner could have done a movie where wolverine and storm try to set the time on a VCR, everyone came in hyped from the 2nd one. This is why last stand did so well, cause X2 hyped everyone up so much.
>>70303227
>best jean grey
>best mystique
>best wolverine
I'm on the fence regarding the old/young Professor X and Magneto. J-Law looks like a Smurf.
>>70321208
>dont have the budget for colors.
that makes no sense and the two most recent x-men movies had black suits and big budgets
>>70320225
Because they did finish the job. The shot it and let it suffer. He killed Jean as a mercy killing, she was suffering too. It mirrors the mercy killing of last stand, as wolverine kills the bear.
>>70322511
It's not colors, but making a number of colored suits that are unique and look good. With Batman, we're sometimes lucky to get one good suit.
>the two most recent x-men movies had black suits and big budgets
I'm talking about the first two films, but it's true that Singer doesn't have an eye for this stuff either. I wish they'd at least revert to the blue and gold. That said, it isn't something that makes me hate the films.
>>70322621
Im saying, why would he care whether or not the arrows are illegal?
>>70322763
Because they are illegal for a reason, he wants to do things the right way, the legal way, but it's struggle when he knows he could just kill them all himself. No more dumb fucks using hurting bears for no reason. The poison also foreshadows Vipers role as well.
>>70322763
>Im saying, why would he care whether or not the arrows are illegal?
Arrows were legal but poisoned (wich is illegal), they just shot the bear and let it go. Poison dorve the bear mad and it killed several hunters.
>>70303227
UNLEASH YOUR POWER!!!
>>70306565
>only half decent romance was the unspoken sexual tension between a grown man and a tweeny
I wonder why
>>70307207
should have taken the white pill
>>70322893
>Because they are illegal for a reason, he wants to do things the right way, the legal way
Doesn't sound like Wolverine at all. Don't get me wrong, he'd hand those hunters their asses, but he wouldn't do it for the law or some sanctimonious motive.
> The poison also foreshadows Vipers role as well.
And the bear foreshadows the metaphorical pot of honey in that one chick's slanty snatch.
>>70323010
Doesn't answer my question.
>>70308630
mmm
>>70323277
Thats the point, he tried to be a by the book, law abiding person working with the x-men, but was about to go "fuck it" and kill them, when ayylmao stopped him.
>>70323277
>Doesn't answer my question.
He did not cared much about them being illegal, he just mentions that they are. He was angry about them poisoning the bear (wich was basically his neighbour), not finishing the job wich caused several human deaths.
>>70323475
Yeah, but if that is in fact the point, it's dumb and totally out of character for Wolverine. Even if we are to accept that Wolverine had a change of heart and no longer kills (which is as perverse to me as Batman killing guys), that would never be motivated by what is deemed right by the law. That is antithetical to the character. Makes zero sense.
Which is why the line stands out to me as ridiculous. He's not Judge Dredd.
>>70306834
First class was the only one that didn't have singer involved. It's definitely the best.
>>70323575
>He did not cared much about them being illegal, he just mentions that they are.
Why say it all? By including that line, and having Jackman say it with anger and rage, it sure serms like he cared for some reason.
>He was angry about them poisoning the bear (wich was basically his neighbour), not finishing the job wich caused several human deaths.
I get this, dude.
>>70319516
I remember the train sequence and somewhat remember the crappy ending.
I actually liked it much more than I thought I would, definetely better then 1 one.
>>70323835
>Why say it all? By including that line, and having Jackman say it with anger and rage, it sure serms like he cared for some reason.
I just litteraly explained it to you, how fucking old are you?
>capekino
X2
DOFP
>Decent
X1
First Class
>mediocre at best
Apocalypse
The Wolverine
>WHY GOD
X3
Origins
>>70320169
>>70320326
Because the bear was in pain from the poison arrow it flipped out and killed some campers (remember the torn up tent he found near the bear?). THAT was why Logan was angry.
>>70306565
It's funny because when I saw 1.2 & 3 I had no knowledge of the Xmen what so ever.
I thought that there was supposed to be something going on between those two, (and cyclops and Jean were an obvious couple) and the Jean grey/wolverine shit came out of complete nowhere
>>70304011
