itt: GOAT shows nobody watches/watched
>>70215597
I never see /tv/ discussing this, I think it's one of the best shows that's airing right now. Every season is better than the previous.
Christ that show was fucking terrible.
>>70215697
Yeah, it's a shame
I think nobody watches it because it's airing on a shit channel, hopefully it gets some more exposure with being on netflix because it really deserves to be more well-known.
>>70215697
stop typing like a commercial you shill
>>70215794
Sorry anon
Too many seasons
>>70215862
How is 4 seasons too many?
>>70215755it's not over yet
>tfw no alison wife
Alison is best clone
>>70215976
>who is MK
>>70215597
How the fuck can you watch this crap?
I tried to catch up on it, but when Allison and her cuck husband scenes came and that annoying theme music that plays in their scenes started playing i remembered why i quit watching
>>70215973
roll for sarah
>>70216053
Allison is top tier though, and her husband being a cuck gets more bearable as time goes on.
SHAMELESS US
one of the best shows ever made
>>70216069
>litterally who
>>70215973
reroll
>>70216121
The first few seasons where GOAT, last season was pretty shit though.
>>70216173
im watching season 4 atm and its good, have to see about the fifth
>>70215597
>tfw kira looks like a fucking rat
why can't she be beautiful like her mother?
>>70215597
It had potential but quickly degenerated to acting-school tier character studies.
Completely jumped the shark with the "tranny" clone. I literally cringed when she started trying to talk like a "dude".
If it wasn't for the Russian clone, the show would be unwatchable.
>>70215973
>tfw no GILF gf
>>70216121
Everyone watches shameless and it is not close to being one of the best shows ever made.
>>70216208
season 5 is where it starts going to shit, season 6 is barely watchable.
>>70216218
the tranny clone was only for a few episodes though
>>70216233
>everyone
Doubt over 7 billion people watch it m8
And its easily a top 10 show
where the fuck is helena?
>>70216359
Don't worry about her, she's gone camping.
>>70216336
"normies" watch it and I guess a top 10 is subjective but it wouldn't make mine
>>70216099
If i wanted to watch desperate housewifes, i would watch the actual show, why even have a spoof of it in a scifi show? It only drags the show down and makes it unwatchabel, they could easily cut those scenes out and the show would improve
>>70216440
I bet you watch some fucking french shitshow and wonder why you have no friends
>>70216497
>itt: GOAT shows nobody watches/watched
Shameless does not fall into op's category
Shameless is a pretty good show not top 10 or unappreciated is all I am saying.
>>70215597
I think I watched the first two seasons, but then when the third came out I forgot where they left off and ditched it.
It was decent, but simply too much to buy honestly. The whole idea that genetics don't matter and even though they are supposedly all clones, they have all kinds of different personalities (even up to sexuality, which honestly is kind of offensive. No idea what point they were trying to make with this one) is really stupid. Experience absolutely does not offer any evidence that it would turn out this way — in opposite studies show that twins that were separated at birth largely develop parallel. I'm not normally the kind of guy that cares for realism much, but this kind of ruined all credibility for me. It just comes off like some stupid agenda (we are all just the product of our environments, everyone has potential yadda yadda) to me.
Underrated as fuck.
>>70216584
>het thinks you are born gay
>>70216584
They develop in things like intelligence at the same rate but don't have the same personality, hell I know identical twins who were raised together and are quite different.
Also leading research points towards homosexuality and transexuality being caused by hormone imbalances in the womb, and since characters like Cosima and Toni had different birth mothers they'd be gestating in different hormones. This triggers both conservatives who are hung up on muh religion and libs who don't want to admit it's literally a birth defect so you don't hear much about this.
>>70216649
Doesn't matter what exactly I think, it's just that people eventually will feel offended by the message this sends and I think it's a stupid move in a fucking TV show. I just don't get why they thought that was a good idea.
>>70215597
a lot of people watch this
>>70215697
theres always threads about it, less than season 1/2 when it was always >cosima best girl threads, but still some
>>70215973
pls alison or krystal
>>70216279
the fuck you on about
>>70216805
>muh recycled plot
>muh teenage pregnancy
>muh alcoholism
this is season 6
>>70216584
>The whole idea that genetics don't matter and even though they are supposedly all clones, they have all kinds of different personalities (even up to sexuality, which honestly is kind of offensive. No idea what point they were trying to make with this one) is really stupid. Experience absolutely does not offer any evidence that it would turn out this way — in opposite studies show that twins that were separated at birth largely develop parallel.
>gets buttpained about clones having different sexuality
>tries to refer to twin studies
>completely ignores the fact that there are twins of whom the other is gay and the other is not
>>70216851
i didn't read properly thought you were talking about orphan black
>>70215697
>Every season is better than the previous.
But Season 3 was shit and you know it.
Season 4 is a huge improvement.
>>70215597
Carnivàle is the most underrated HBO show
>>70216218
Nah, they do pander a little to the tumblr crowd, but they must have realized that everyone else hated "Tony" too, so s/he was quickly written of the show. The great acting, jokes, and generally interesting plot make up for it's flaws.
>>70215973
pls sarah
>>70216980
I agree, s3 didnt sit as well with me as this season, which im really enjoying
>>70216980
the first part yeah, the second part was great
Do people find Maslany attractive
I think she's really pretty
I don't think I've seen Vinyl discussed here nor has anyone I know seen it.
The first season premiered earlier this year and I really enjoyed it.
>>70217413
I find her really attractive as certain characters but not others
I guess I like girls for their personalities like some kinda fag
>>70217621
That means her acting is working.
>>70217413
Tatiana Maslany a cute. A cute!!!
I really love Orphan Black, I wish /tv/ had more threads about it. This season is definitely better than the last.
>Nobody loves Rectify but me
It's ending this year too, any other Sundance TV shows worth watching?
>>70215597
>nobody watches
Maybe because it's shit. This show went from bad to worse. The same actress playing everything was interesting for about 2 episodes, and the plot is becoming more and more grotesque
>>70215597
It's just damn good television. It has everything.
>Cop shit
>Science Shit
>Housewife scandal shit
>military shit
>religious shit
>plot twists
>reveals
>risque shit
Plus the actors are all decent and the child actors aren't absolutely awful. Also it is filmed in Toronto so I recognize a few of the locations which is neat.
>>70215973
Rolling for Helena
>>70218310
So much this, this is also why it probably isn't that popular.
>>70215973
roll
>>70215973
Roll
>>70217621
Alison's a bitch.
orphan black season 1 is great but it goes to shit with season 2. It tries too hard to be progressive and becomes more and more retarded. Hell in the end it turns out that sarah and all the clones were created from a bigendered chav hag by an organisation with alien mind powers
>>70218354
nice roll and nice waifu
>>70219153
she's not bigendered, she has a real condition where she absorbed what would have been her twin brother in the womb
>>70219319
This, it's called chimerism. Has nothing to do with gender identity or anything, it's a legit genetic anomaly.
>>70215597
>BBC
You're not fooling me again. Five out of the six BBC shows I've watched on recommendation were shit.
>>70218069
make discussion threads next episode then
>>70215973
thing is, they are all ugly except Cosima and Beth who are literal 9/10.
How is that even possible?
>>70215597
Guess the season :
>Helena is held up and tortured somewhere
>Sarah goes on a thrill detective ride made of constant plot twists and stunning reveals
>Alison has wacky funny adventures in her sururb
>Cosima do some science shit
>Rachel plots something sinisters
>>70220262
>not wanting to get mouth fucked by Rachel
excuse me
>>70220574
which was more rapey
when Rachel made Paul fuck her or else he'd get turned in to the authorities
or when Sarah was pretending to be Beth and fucked him?
>>70220773
sucks to be Paul :(
campy, funny, and pretty good action series. wish it wouldve been on longer cause it's really good
Rectify
Enlightened
Outlander
>>70220449
season 2
>>70216584
>I'm not normally the kind of guy that cares for realism much
>but this kind of ruined all credibility for me
You care much more than you think.
>>70215597
Yeah no. Not interested in this show in the slightest
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/04/male_characters_on_orphan_black_are_undeveloped_making_the_show_s_feminist.html
>>70220773
the latter was double rape since he was lying about who he was too
>>70224748
>believing the slate.com
the Castor clones were great and Donny is actually a gangster when the time calls for it
>>70224814
This. When your main character is 8 people who are all female clones, you don't get much opportunity to develop side characters, male or female. Donny is great and even Felix can be good once you get over the whole "obnoxious flaming faggot" sort of thing.
>>70215597
it kinda feels samey after a few episodes
>>70215597
These shows weren't really GOAT but it seems like nobody really watched them (or not enough people)
Almost Human
The Unit
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
V (2009)
>>70217002
That would be luck and treme.
>>70216649
>het thinks you are born gay
Do you really think they’re not? Homosexuality is obviously a genetic / mental issue that some people are afflicted with, it’s not an option.
I don’t know about you, but my parents didn’t have to sit me own and explain that as a male, I was supposed to be attracted to females and not other guys.
As far as Orphan Black, I liked the 1st season but it started getting really convoluted in what seems like an attempt to stretch out the series and while I plan on watching all of it, I’m currently 1.5 seasons behind.
Also; Allison is the hottest clone.
>>70215597
I though Orphan Black was depressing
>>70217536
I have seen it and it was discussed here several times mostly people disliked it. I personally enjoyed it but basically its every episode som character meets famous celebrity show but last episodes were great.
>>70221068
1st season was gud
>>70226484
>Allison is the hottest clone
maybe your parents should have sit you down son, you clearly turned out gay in the end
This one.
It's like, the best show ever
>>70226484
>Do you really think they’re not?
Not that guy. But no, I don't. How is homosexuality "obviously" genetic? Because it fits into SJW/LGBT mafia narratives? I don't think male babies are sexually attracted to males.
I don't think people are born liking beer either.
And studies about homosexuality nearly always have an agenda (look! sisters of gay men have more babies!).
There's clearly a "gay accent" that only homosexuals have, but not all homosexuals have it. Homosexuals certainly have mental issues, but those aren't all genetic either. A lot of mental issues are simply acquired.
But it doesn't fucking matter, because nobody is really interested in looking at any impartial science on the matter. Some people just want to stick with their "born this way" mantra (even though they can't point to the "gay gene").
>>70226484
As someone who isn't straight, I don't think I was born that way. I think early childhood experiences do play a part, and likely many factors in the womb do as well. I think by the time you hit puberty it's pretty set in stone, but early on it can be variable.
>>70226484
Ever heard of childhood imprints?
Do you think footfags are born loving feet?
Do you think diaper fetishists are born loving diapers?
Do you think goatfuckers are born loving goats?
It's such a fucking joke.
The whole "born this way" meme is just a variation on "God made me this way" that people used to use to absolve themself of any responsibility for their actions.
>>70215597
couldn't finish first episode
utter trash
>>70227458
The argument for "it's okay to be gay" should have been based on an argument that it's okay to do what you want as long as no one is being hurt by it. For some reason this wasn't as catchy though, and they had to start making shit up. Now the whole argument is based on this false premise that gay people must 100% be born that way no matter what. Now they have to keep clinging to that delusion because they know that they fucked up and built their identity on something they had no idea whether or not was true. Honestly being born that way has nothing to even do with it, it's just catchy.
pretty easy anon
>>70226145
3/4 watched here. Haven't finished V. It kinda lost its appeal. Should i finish it?
>>70215973
roll
>>70227616
>The argument for "it's okay to be gay" should have been based on an argument that it's okay to do what you want as long as no one is being hurt by it.
I reject that argument too.
Besides, all kinds of people have been hurt by homosexuality: all the people who have died from AIDS, which includes straight people who died after HIV-infected blood transfusions.
And the whole reason Hollywood has promoted a gay agenda for decades is so they could eventually normalize homosexual pedophilia. It's not like all the faggots in Hollywood are lusting over old men. They're lusting after the Corey Feldmans and Corey Haims of the world.
>>70227964
The New V isn't that great. But I still liked it.
>>70227923
Easily the best show of the last decade.
>>70227923
It's pretty well rated on /tv/ at least... Don't know if that counts for something.
>>70227007
Nature AND Nurture.
never commit to absolutes without evidence.
There are clearly SOME fags that lean more feminine growing up. I can remember a friends brother we always used to joke that he was effiminate and had "those" mannerisms. He was a middle brother raised in a house of 3 boys but by the time he was 17 he came out (as if anyone was surprised).
There is clearly a segment of the populace that is genetically gay. Just as there is a segment that is mentally retarded. Sexual retardation seems to sum up most gay/bi deviations. NOW, the difference is that there are certain deviants that hide behind that tiny fragment of genetic anomolies and use them to endorse and enforce THEIR agenda. These are the true deviants that plot evil for the sake of boredom They are the ones that rape men in prison to prove how MANLY they are, they force parents to let them abuse their children for a taste of fame in Hollywood, they create pedophile rings and subvert the rule of law at the highest offices. Deviant bisexuals are the most untrustable unstable creatures on the planet.
>>70227458
>orientation is the same as a fetish
epic /pol/ argument
>>70228195
i'm glad we agree anon
>>70228380
only teenagers and redditors are afraid of /pol/.
Which are you?
>>70228556
funny you should mention teenagers since reading more of your posts I said in my head "he's probably only 16 so takes everything on here at face value"
>>70228556
>only teenagers and redditors are entertained by /pol/
ftfy
>>70227007
> How is homosexuality "obviously" genetic?
Homosexuality is found on all ethnic groups across the planet and has been since the dawn of time and as some animals also display homosexual behavior, (chimps and dolphins) you can hardly claim it’s a choice based on cultural pressures.
And again; when did you make a conscious decision that you were hetro or homo?
> Because it fits into SJW/LGBT mafia narratives?
The LGBT movement studiously ignores the issue and pretends it doesn’t exist because if it’s genetic, then they are defective and can no longer claim to be “normal” and if it’s a choice, then they can’t claim to be a protected sub-culture.
>>70228616
>>70228654
Not the same guy, but I don't understand.. Why do you people come to 4chan?
Reddit has a much, much wider userbase with more likeminded people as yourselves.
Why go out of your way to invade a website you don't even like?
I mean, I don't like reddit and most of its userbase, so I don't use their site.
Explain it to me, please
>>70228380
What is "sexual orientation" if not who/what you're attracted to?
The only reason homosexuality is no longer considered a "paraphilia" because faggots bitched and moaned for years to change the DSM.
And what's fucking ridiculous, is that retards claim that trannies do not have a mental disorder if they're not distressed by it.
Do you think footfags are "distressed" by their attractions?
Do you think pedos are "distressed" by their attractions?
Do you think dogfuckers are "distressed" by their attractions?
Do you think psychopaths are "distressed" by their mental disorder?
I like how people have to rely on just absolutely retarded thinking when it comes to sexuality.
Heyyyyyyy dumb fucks, guess what? I can prove you have relatively little choice in what gets you off in 10 seconds, no science studies or hocus pocus needed.
Go ahead and try to will yourself into finding something attractive.
Whats that?
You can't?
Say it ain't so?
>>70228760
why are you on 4chan? before /new/ and /pol/ 4chan was more anarchist than right wing. why not go to stormfront or right wing subreddits?
>>70221068
Comfy show.
>>70215597
Archer
Its been consistently good for 6 years now and outside the occasional thread on the comics board it never gets talked about.
I think there's maybe a handful of bad episodes, and they're still solid 7/10s, such a good show
>>70215973
dubs please
>>70228760
>I mean, I don't like reddit and most of its userbase
You are absolutely delusional if you don't think there is a huge crossover between this site and reddit. Go look at the April Fools day posts on the movies subreddit and tell me people who go on there don't also come on /tv/. /pol/ and /v/ also have a lot of reddit users frequent those boards. /pol/ routinely brigades posts about the holocaust. Did you see their attempt to derail a Holocaust survivor's AMA?
The Knick.
>>70226145
>TSCC
>not GOAT
Choose one (1)
V was cool too
>>70228760
Reddit's a poorly designed site with a sycophantic community and I have much more offensive opinions than /pol/ could handle since it doesnt go along with their hivemind of the week, just pointing out that's clearly where this kids ideas are all coming from rather than doing any research himself
>>70228788
orientation is a drive along the lines of urges to eat and drink, a fetish is more of a taste like if you like pizza or not
the funny thing is the science points to LGBTs being literal birth defects but that's not exactly the edgy 4chan catchphrase in circulation so triggers autistic rants about foot fetishes and Dan Shnieder
>>70228788
>What is "sexual orientation" if not who/what you're attracted to?
sexual orientation
noun
a person's sexual identity in relation to the gender to which they are attracted; the fact of being heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual.
>The only reason homosexuality is no longer considered a "paraphilia" because faggots bitched and moaned for years to change the DSM.
[citation needed]
>And what's fucking ridiculous, is that retards claim that trannies do not have a mental disorder if they're not distressed by it.
Gender dysphoria definitely causes suffering in the individual's lives.
I think it should be classified and dealt with as some sought of mental disorder as if left it can cause serious harm to their psychological well-being.
>>70228662
>Homosexuality is found on all ethnic groups across the planet and has been since the dawn of time and as some animals also display homosexual behavior, (chimps and dolphins) you can hardly claim it’s a choice based on cultural pressures.
Behaviors can be learned and acquired. Culture isn't genetic. And ever heard of childhood imprints?
I bet most mammals display sharing behavior. Does that mean sharing is genetic? Do you think speaking English is genetic? If people want to talk about genes, point out the genes.
>And again; when did you make a conscious decision that you were hetro or homo?
When did you make a conscious decison to learn English? And every day humans perform actions that are not conscious.
>The LGBT movement studiously ignores the issue and pretends it doesn’t exist because if it’s genetic, then they are defective and can no longer claim to be “normal” and if it’s a choice, then they can’t claim to be a protected sub-culture.
No, they say what you just said. If it's genetic, they can't be held responsible, since other animals do it too (they love to mention bonobos when meeting). Or they say some gene for homosexuality makes females more attractive to other men. If it's a choice, they say consenting adults should be able to do whatever they want (but what about all the gays who are not yet adults, who were supposedly "born that way"?)
The LGBT mafia hopes homosexuals won't commit suicide, yet they tell trannies that they can do whatever they want to their own bodies, because (and this is aided by the abortion argument) it's their body, their choice.
And they don't think trannies have a mental disorder because they think it's not a mental disorder if it doesn't cause the person distress, but it's not like psychopaths or pedos are distressed either. Other people are. Then fags mention the "you don't like it because you think it's icky" argument, which could also be used for murder.
>>70228813
>Heyyyyyyy dumb fucks, guess what? I can prove you have relatively little choice in what gets you off in 10 seconds, no science studies or hocus pocus needed.
>Go ahead and try to will yourself into finding something attractive.
You think all the people masturbating to trannies on 4chan started with that?
You think all the people masturbating to shitting dick nipples started with that?
Desensitization and dehabituation is a real phenomenon. It's the reason why addicts seek higher and higher doses of drugs. And porn is definitely a drug.
A person doesn't start out getting off to fuck machines and monster girls.
Ever heard of an acquired taste?
>>70229583
>>And again; when did you make a conscious decision that you were hetro or homo?
>When did you make a conscious decison to learn English? And every day humans perform actions that are not conscious.
Being taught a language is a false equation to being "taught" to become gay.
I'm willing to bet most gay people hardly had any influence growing up which may have genuinely "led" them to become homosexual.
Sure, it probably happens, but there is hardly any scientific evidence for it.
>>70215973
Sarah, Jennifer or M.K. come onnnn
>>70215597
Last season dropped the ball a bit, but before that it became one of the favorite shows currently airing. Not to mention Tatiana Maslany is so fucking great at making the characters unique. I usually wait till a show's season is out completely before watching it now though, so I have to wait and see how season 4 does.Cosima best girl.
>>70229191
>orientation is a drive along the lines of urges to eat and drink, a fetish is more of a taste like if you like pizza or not
I don't believe that for one second. It's what you like. Sexual orientation is what you are attracted to, what the target of your attraction is.
If what you said was true, "orientation" would be a "drive" like the urge to fuck, and a fetish would be whatever you want to fuck.
And "fetish" was commonly used to refer to abnormal or very specific targets of attraction.
I totally believe foot fetishes are acquired. A baby might see their mother's bare feet walking around a lot. That "taste" could even be acquired later in life. A person can totally have muted response to some stimulus, and then later on the stimulus can become eroticized.
>>70230097
>so I have to wait and see how season 4 does.
It's going back to season 1 roots in its tone and story, it's way better imo than 2 & 3.
>>70229768
feel free to try to make yourself gay by jerking off to gay porn to win this epic image board debate, you can come shit up the next orphan black thread in half a years time with the results
>>70215597
>watching Canashit
under no circumstances
>>70230177
That's good to hear.
WHERE THE FUCK IS GRACIE
>>70230334
who dat what episode post webms
>>70227923
We used to have watch threads when it aired, and it's pretty well liked overall on here.
One of my favorite shows.
>orphan black discussion turns into /pol/shit pseudoscience
But why
>>70229224
>a person's sexual identity in relation to the gender to which they are attracted; the fact of being heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual.
That's a joke. Especially since the LGBT mafia thinks gender is a "role" and behavioral and not chromosomal aka sex.
Sexual orientation concerns someone's target of attraction, where their attraction is oriented in the outer world. Why would it be limited to gender when they claim gender is a social construct? Heterosexuals are attracted to the opposite sex, homosexuals are attracted to the same sex, bisexuals are attracted to both sexes. But those targets of attraction only concern gender aka sex.
>[citation needed]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_psychology
>In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder.[3] The American Psychological Association Council of Representatives followed in 1975.[4] Thereafter other major mental health organizations followed, including the World Health Organization in 1990.
>Gender dysphoria definitely causes suffering in the individual's lives.
Except some trannies claim they're not distressed by their gender dysphoria. Even though dysphoria means distress, they may be diagnosed with it simply because there is a mismatch between the gender they are, and the gender they think they are.
And nobody would ever respect a view of someone who thinks they are a different race than their actual race.
>>70230642
Bad case of the autisms.
>>70230334
>literally clone waifu the show
>you pick trash tier
>>70229844
The point is that you cannot point to genes to explain all behaviors. And not every action people do is a conscious decision.
I'm not arguing that people are "taught" to be gay (although maybe someone who is molested might be more likely to "become" gay). But outside influences, including estrogen analogs in the environment, can definitely interfere with bodily systems.
You think most gay people didn't have any childhood sexual experiences that influenced their behavior? You think most gay people didn't have any childhood imprints, possibly before they could even talk, that influenced their behavior?
I wanted to enjoy that show, but the fact that all the clones are white is just extremely offensive to me.
>>70230188
This isn't an Orphan Black thread, even though it became one.
And you better believe that 4chan has made all kinds of people who would never jerk off to gay porn, start jerking off to gay porn. /b/ is full of maybe 20 trap threads at any given moment.
Porn normalizes, desensitizes, and dehabituates people to stimuli. People don't start off masturbating to gore and ponies and dragons with 50 dicks. It's a progression.
Besides, what's gayer than putting your hand on dicks all the time and giving handjobs to guys?
>>70231118
masturbation is not sexuality
>>70230642
If you bothered to read the thread, that tangent came off of this post:
>>70216584
>>70230899
>>70229844
>implying this is not the same person arguing with himself
>>70215597
>not posting the top tier Britkino
>>70216584
The clones had extreme differences in neonatal environments which also contributes greatly to differences seen in personalities. Identical twins are much more similar to each other than the clones are.
I grant that Sarah and Helena should be somewhat similar, but Helena has the confounding factor of an extremely traumatic and abusive upbringing.
>>70231183
Oh really? You think getting off your own genitals has nothing to do with sexuality, or what people are sexually aroused by?
And you think that the porn people watch when masturbating has no influence on someone's "sexuality"?
>>70230419
damn i am a little late then
Made by the same people as the wire
never heard /tv/ mention it once
>>70231320
yes, show me a study proving your points otherwise
>>70226922
Third season never
Can't believe no one's brought up the GOATiest of them all.
>>70231474
sauce?
>>70231391
Oh I used to make Treme threads frequently when it was airing, absolutely loved the show. I thought it was a very good artistic rendition of real life and it really captured what it is to be in New Orleans. I was a fisheries research down in Venice LA for quite some time and spending a decent amount of time in NO was required, fun drinking, good eating, lots of spooks that ran a little while.
9/10 show IMO
>>70230727
>an official definition of a term is a joke
lol ok boo
>Especially since the LGBT mafia thinks gender is a "role" and behavioral and not chromosomal aka sex.
Of course, for a tranny, the chromosomes will remain the same but they still "identify" and try to live life in the gender they "want" to be.
>Why would it be limited to gender when they claim gender is a social construct?
What? I don't see what this has to do with it at all...
Gender/sex certainly exists, anyone refusing to believe otherwise is completely fucking deluded, and not all people in the """LGBT mafia""" believe that utter bullshit.
>>In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder.[3] The American Psychological Association Council of Representatives followed in 1975.[4] Thereafter other major mental health organizations followed, including the World Health Organization in 1990.
Uhh...? Your point was that it was no longer classified on the DSM "because faggots bitched and moaned for years".
>Except some trannies claim they're not distressed by their gender dysphoria.
Then it's not gender dysphoria, they're just whiny bullshitters.
"Gender dysphoria is the distress caused by the feeling that your gender identity does not match the biological gender that you are."
![150427-in-treatment-1024x374[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JNYjjb6.jpg "150427-in-treatment-1024x374[1].jpg")
C'mon, I can't be the only one.
First and second were GOAT, third season not so much.
>>70231901
Fuckin trannies should be gassed
>>70231530
keri is so qt it hurts
>>70231416
You want a study showing that porn can change what people get off to?
You think every
>i'm 12 and what is this
kid on /b/ leaves liking the same porn?
You think the number of handjobs a guy has given in his life is unrelated to liking erect penises?
>>70231901
>>an official definition of a term is a joke
>lol ok boo
I think "sexual identity" is mostly a joke.
>Identity is a dream pathetic in its absurdity. You dream of being yourself when you've nothing better to do. -Jean Buadrillard
>there is always something vain and useless about demanding identity -Jean Buadrillard
Who are the "sexual orientation" officials? SJWs who have their own journals, who spew shit like gender is a role, gender is a behavior, and that the whole concept of "gender identity" is NOT a social construct? People in the liberal arts, and not even in the hard sciences?
The LGBT mafia has Wikipedia locked down in this regard. Oh look, some dyke has a journal and says sexual orientation means this, I guess she's an expert!
>Of course, for a tranny, the chromosomes will remain the same but they still "identify" and try to live life in the gender they "want" to be.
No, the gender they think they already are.
>Gender/sex certainly exists, anyone refusing to believe otherwise is completely fucking deluded, and not all people in the """LGBT mafia""" believe that utter bullshit.
I'm saying, why would sexual orientation only mean what gender you're attracted to? It's what/who you are attracted to. Gender can certainly be one of those factors (unless someone insists that the "sexual" in sexual orientation literally refers to sex aka gender, and not the targets of one's sexual attraction).
>Uhh...? Your point was that it was no longer classified on the DSM "because faggots bitched and moaned for years".
Yeah, it was removed in part due to homosexual activists and "changing social norms."
>Then it's not gender dysphoria, they're just whiny bullshitters.
It's also called "gender identity disorder" simply to signify there is a mismatch between their sex and their imagined sex.
Black Mirror
>>70233393
But... the literal dictionary definition of the term "sexual orientation" is the GENDER of which you are attracted to, plain and simple, and it has been for years.
I don't really see how that's so hard to understand.
>No, the gender they think they already are.
What? You're beginning to contradict yourself. You just said that it's determined on their chromosomes; not who they identify as.
>Yeah, it was removed in part due to homosexual activists and "changing social norms."
Still [citation needed]
>It's also called "gender identity disorder" simply to signify there is a mismatch between their sex and their imagined sex.
Oh, come on
"Gender dysphoria or gender identity disorder (GID) is the dysphoria (distress) a person experiences as a result of the sex and gender they were assigned at birth."
>>70215973
dubs
orphan back seems like it should be on FX
>>70215973
Rollin
>>70215597
holy shit this show is bad
I couldn't keep watching when I got past the halfway mark of season 2
it's just more BBC agenda forcing bullshit
Luther remains the only good BBC show that doesn't force an agenda
>>70231546
The booth at the end.
It's a much watch
I don't see Black Books being much discussed in here
>>70226922
Jesus that is such a great show.
Any word on a 3rd season?
I've just recently gotten into Daredevil, hated AoS, Agent Carter...all the other bullshit, just so they could have Shows running that made them even more Money quantitiy over Quality yadayada...but this, is actually an intriguing and well crafted Show and I'm not even that big on Daredevil but after 2 of the first episodes I thought to myself, damn, they should've done the movie like this
damn love this show
>>70233862
>But... the literal dictionary definition of the term "sexual orientation" is the GENDER of which you are attracted to, plain and simple, and it has been for years.
Sexual orientation is about who you are sexually attracted to. People talking about "orientation" and "identity" have an agenda.
>The term sexual preference largely overlaps with sexual orientation...
>What? You're beginning to contradict yourself. You just said that it's determined on their chromosomes; not who they identify as.
I was disagreeing with what you said about trannies "wanting" to be another gender (since trannies insist they *already* are a different gender).
>Still [citation needed]
http://www.aglp.org/gap/1_history/
>The publication of DSM-II coincided with the emergence of the gay rights movement. The Stonewall riots in 1969 in New York City marked a watershed event in the movement. Having successfully challenged the police and government attempts to shut down public places where gay people gathered, gay activists would soon challenge psychiatric authority as well.
>Gay activists began to confront the APA about its position on homosexuality. There were a series of dramatic encounters between activists and psychiatrists at the annual meetings of the APA between 1970 and 1972. While the opposition to the activists was vehement by some in the APA, there were increasing numbers of psychiatrists (e.g., Judd Marmor) who supported the activists' view.
>Oh, come on
LGBT people have Wikipedia on lockdown. They don't want trannies to be seen as mentally ill. And I would argue that Wikipedia has a disproportionate number of trannies in high positions, and editors in general.
