>>70175141
There are a loads already. Fuck off with your capeshit
OP, he looks like Abomination but it's actually Doomsday
>DCucks are so jealous of marvel that they want to name their cave troll Abomination instead of Le Doomsday
wow more poetry
>>70175141
Actually never noticed this...
Nicely done
>>70176185
yeah, the movie is filled with these little moments
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>>70175596
why is this dialogue so weird
>>70175596
POTTERY
BRAVo
SNYDER
>>70177284
Welcome to Goyertown
>No man in the sky intervened when I was a boy to deliver me from daddy's fist and Doomsdays...
BRAVO TERRIO
>>70175141
who was the C in the group of superhumans?
also neurotic, babbyface lex is the worst iteration of the character i've ever seen
and wonderwoman's accent was bizarre
all in all decent enough, definitely not deserving of the 29% when thor and hulk movies get 65-75%
>>70177622
Cyborg.
>>70175141
The more I see these little images the more I question whether I was wrong in my judgement of this film.
That's a nice moment
>>70177683
> the whale shaped hole in the wall
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAAAAHAHAH
>>70177893
Juvenile
>>70177836
try watching it again, maybe you like it more.
>>70177622
>Thor average score: 6.7/10
>Thor The Dark World: 6.2/10
Pretty fair to me
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>>70177742
Thanks you Snyder for delivering us Capekino in our darkest hour.
You really did die for our sins of liking Capeshit
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>>70177469
pretty sad that you or whoever spent the time to actually make these.
>>70177836
Has anyone else noticed all this Marvel backtracking?
i thought WW was cap america tier, why was she so op?
>>70177867
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>>70177469
this just showcases how much of a hack he is.
>>70177968
>Dark Knight
>Kino
Maybe if you're 12.
>>70177893
Grow up.
>>70177914
Cmon bro you gotta admit thats fucking hilarous. The lack of subtlety in the movie is mindblowing
>>70177989
People went in with their minds clouded with criticism and expected a bad movie so they convinced themselves it was a bad movie.
It really takes a second viewing imo, in the long run bvs will be regarded as a great capeshit
>>70178053
You didn't notice it until it was pointed out to you.
>lack of subtlety
>>70178053
Literally no one connected this to moby dick until some anon posted a still from the movie and then all of a sudden everyone started pretending that yes it was glaringly unsubtle what snyder did.
>>70178012
How
>>70178305
lol bro everyone knew everything going on wih bvs lol
maybe you're the one it's all being pointed out too lolLOLOLOLOLOLOL
>>70178305
>>70178359
you guys have no idea what subtle is.
>>70178385
Prepare for memes substituted for a credible answer anon
>>70178447
Sweet defence.
>>70178447
Enlighten us
>>70178562
Straight to Google he goes.
>>70175761
Please stop bringing up your (obsessive) dc hate and cuckolding fetish into everything.
>look at all this imagery doesn't this make up for a ludacrious premise with even worse dialog
>muh Martha
No sorry it's still bad
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>>70177867
This movie is deeper than we first thought. Sorry DCucks, we were wrong.
>>70178956
Remind me why the Martha scene was bad again?
>>70179088
Why did that stop him from killing the evil alien that destroyed a city? Why let your enemy regain his composure with a single word when he clearly knows who you are?
>>70179088
Mostly because it was too abrupt.
I get what they were trying to do; Batman realizes that Superman isn't some faceless space monster, but that he's got parents and people who love him too.
By killing him, he'd be just as bad as Joe Chill, robbing someone of a loved one in cold blood.
I get it.
That said, the fact that they go from trying to stab/murder each other to best buddies in the blink of an eye is just sloppy. It was a decent idea, but it was executed poorly so we could just get to the destruction.
>>70175141
Related
>>70172188
>>70179647
Inherent problem with the setup really.
Batman spent years plotting to kill Superman, utterly convinced that he was dangerous to mankind, only to completely 180 because their mother's share a name.
The only way it would work is if the name forged just enough common ground for batman to listen to what Superman has to say in conversation. But you can't have a $200 million film end in two characters talking things out, so Synder completely trapped himself.
>>70179088
Literally no different than Tony seeing the vid of his parents.
>>70175141
I don't know what I'm looking at in the bottom pic?
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>>70177867
i wonder who spend hours making these
>>70180091
supes blocks the punch of doomsday and protecting lex
>>70180025
Actually totally different the guy who killed your parents and the one who lied to you about it are right in front of you as you watch a video of one strangle your mother and beat your father to death. The other has superman say a name and gives Bruce a breakdown for some unknown reason. Oh all you need to beat batman and become his Allie is his mothers name? Give me a fucking break
>>70180357
>finally come to an understanding and want to end the conflict with Cap
>know Zemo is leading him on
>knows Bucky was in his WS persona
>still throws a tantrum and never stops
Both BvS and CW had better hype than the final products.
>>70177742
none of these make the movie good though
pottery aside, the film still disappoints
>>70177867
>this looks like this
>this referneces this, which had a similar plot
So what though? That doesn't make it good.
>>70180483
I didn't say it was good but it made more sense than what BvS did. Master tactician and extremely well prepared batman breaks down to "Martha"
Recent divorcee alcoholic tony watches parents die.
Yeah there is a clear difference here.
Cinema
Watchmen-8/10
Man of steel 10/10
Batman v Superman 10/10
Is the Snyder trilogy comparable to the nolan trilogy?
>>70180212
>getting memed on this hard
It's literally TDKR 2.0, how can anyone not see this with all the "praise" it gets? It's like people get sohotheadedwhen they see praise for DC they never stop to think of the context it's done in.
>>70180621
No. Not really. Especially since being apart from Pepper doesn't matter much in the film (same with the whole son of the black lady thing, even /m/ makes fun of that cliche with a character from gundam). Plus he was "friends" with Tony, amongst the other things I said. The fight scene was good, though, Bucky jobbing aside.
The man has spoken
>>70180962
Why he'd write that on the side of his house?
>>70180962
>kino funny
>>70178171
Im just sad that it'll probably kill any chance for any director to be a little more creative with super hero films
>Jeremy Irons, who plays Alfred Pennyworth in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, recently spoke out about director Zack Snyder's comic book flick, calling it a "very muddled" movie.
>When asked by the Daily Mail (via TheWrap) about the slew of negative reviews the film received, Irons said Batman v Superman was "deservedly" criticized, noting "it took $800 million, so the kicking didn’t matter but it was sort of overstuffed."
Can't wait to get Affleck's and Cavill's uncensored opinions on this train wreck in a year or two.
All this symbolism and subtext doesn't mean dick if you fail to construct a compelling narrative around it.
Kinofags are all just the worst.
>>70179647
>the fever...the rage, the feeligg of powerlessness that turns good men cruel.
It's like these faggots didn't even watch the movie. Batman is a flawed character and wasn't acting himself because he was a man on a mission until hearing his mothers name snapped him out of it.
>>70181361
Oh man who knew that a determined batman do weakness was
>mertha
>>70179647
>I get it.
No you don't. You're regurgitating what everyone else is saying to explain the scene. They arent even right.
You're focusing on the movie from a literal standpoint. Batman and Superman do not fight to see who would win the fight. Watch the movie again to actually see who is fighting when they're staring each other in the face.
Fuckin holy hell everyone is a pleb
>>70179647
The movie sets up batman as someone who's lost his way. 20 years of being batman and he hasn't made a damn bit of difference.
He thinks that beating superman will be the only thing that matters so he feverishly sets to beat him so he can finally make a differenc.
The minute Martha name is mentioned it jars him and he realises what he's become, I don't think they become friends like the way you mean. Bats goes of to "save" Martha in doing so hoping to redeem himself at failing to save his own mother.
Batman is insane and he's fanatically chasing after goals to prove that he isn't a useless piece of shit that let his mother die
>>70180560
In what way? I understand entertainment is subjective but the film delivers what it sets out to do
>>70181237
>implying
>>70180001
Years? Wasnt it only like 18 months?
>>70176185
Same here I need to rewatch
>>70177867
>Zack Snyder with his mechanical wings. He is Icarus too, in some way
10/10
>>70182778
My bad.
>>70182778
>Wasnt it only like 18 months?
>spend a year and a half bailing humanity out of countless jams but none of it is good enough for them.
I would've liked if they'd alluded to Supes maybe giving an interview at some point, I mean FFS he knows Lois give the man some good PR.
>>70178562
He has. Subtlety.
Martha
>>70183559
The fact that 99% of viewers missed it; I would say that's subtle
so you just need obvious references to Jesus to be Kino?
>>70183700
>obvious
Stop pretending anon
>>70183776
so you need references to Jesus to be kino?
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>>70177867
>J U S T O G R A P H I C
>>70183848
>that reading comprehension
>>70183948
who are you quoting?
>>70184104
The guy I quoted
Thank you Snyder for delivering us true KÍNÒÇINËMA
>>70177990
>i thought WW was cap america tier, why was she so op?
We don't really know much about movieverse Wonder Woman yet, other than she's 100+ years old and doesn't seem to age. But going by the comics she's either a clay baby that was given life and superpowers by the Greek gods, or possibly an actual daughter of Zeus.
70s Wonder Woman was Cap-teir, but in the 80s they power-creeped her to be on par with Superman, and she's stayed that way through multiple incarnations.
>>70185169
I thought ww was always just below superman tier
>>70176185
same here
>>70175141
>eating pickles on Sunday.
Maybe after $2.50 and my own shirts. Plus the movie was bad.
>>70185963
>>eating pickles on Sunday.
>
>Maybe after $2.50 and my own shirts.
what
>>70184352
You're really serious with this? How do you overlook SO MUCH mind numbing stupidity? Do you defend the MARTHA reveal????????.
>>70185704
I think in the current canon it works out that Superman is physically stronger than her, but she's a trained warrior and strong enough to hold her own against him.
I can't tell if the love of this movie is serious or ironic anymore.I even liked the movie
>>70186081
Not stupid at all, it's foreshadowed from the very beginning with Thomas Wayne's last words being his wife's name, Martha.
Most of the criticisms about BvS seem to come from people incapable of understanding even the most basic plot points.
>>70186331
I liked the movie. I'll defend the movie against asinine criticism which most people seem to hold against bvs
I love these movies so much.
>>70179891
wew
>>70183660
You're telling me that hole in the wall is the white whale Moby Dick?
It is offensive to allude to Moby Dick with a crude drywall cutout when literally half of the book is spent describing in awesome detail the magnificence of whales physical form.
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>>70177469
except for all that zack snyder / kino meme shit, these are genuinely great
>>70183361
I'm hoping for a moment along those lines in the director's cut.
>>70186979
It was a stupid plot point that was forshadowed poorly, because it felt forced. It was brought up by suoes in a mind numbly dumb way. Most defense of bvs seems to be from people who don't understand the basics of good writing/plot.
>>70175596
POTTERY
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BvS is a movie that allows the viewer to take what they want out of it. Based on your personality you will find what you want from the film.
You want memes? You got memes
You want a fight? You got a fight
You want symbolism? You got symbolism
You want a bad movie? You got a bad movie
You want a good movie? You got a good movie
Ylif you want transcendent kino that will change your life forever? You got that too. I'm glad that's what I got.
MARTHA
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>>70178019
Yea....12 inches
>>70187515
Whoever wrote that and the guy who wrote the article is a bitch. Superman us only flat if you're a normie, an elitist, or a retard like Snyder. Superman is about standing up for what's right, if you call that "flat" I'll call you a faggot.
>>70187418
>What a nice scene, but is there a reasoning behind it? Why would Clark wear a red cape and stand like that?
>Snyder: He's genetically predisposed to wear capes.
Why didn't Superman just tell Doomsday about Martha to stop him?
>>70188516
It's visual shorthand for Jonathan having always seen Clark's potential, more generally, it's the way a lot of fathers look at their sons.With hope.
>>70188728
If that were true he wouldn't have raised him to be an indecisive pussy
>>70181682
Great analysis. I think most people are probably unaware of the undertones that both characters are fated to be great and work together, which is why their mothers had the same name. It is accepted that there are "greater powers" in the DC universe some would call magic (see Ras Al Ghul). I also believe that Bruce's first experience where he was carried by the bats was NOT a dream, but over time, it was the only way his rational mind could process the experience. Something so amazing would lend greatly to inspiring a youth. Fate and Destiny, without a doubt, are large factors in this universe.
>>70188728
So he raised him to be a hero and then stops him from being a hero at every turn?
>>70183210
Wow.
>>70189075
Same here
>>70177919
I love how DC fans have become a scientologist like cult.
BASED SNYDER OPENED MY EYES.
Reminder that no matter how hard you dcucks try explain the symbolism of this stupid fucking movie it does not change the fact that it was objectively mediocre.
>>70189203
Respect the past, embrace the future
Or else
>>70189265
>retard with no idea what the word objective means.
>>70188997
Noone raised Clark to be a hero. His father died because he didn't want to be saved by him and his mother told him he is not obliged to do anything with his powers either.
Also, Clark doesn't like saving people. Not once do you see him smile or not looking like he really would like to be somewhere else. The only person he enjoys saving is Lois since she gives him poon. On that subject, he really didn't even care that Lois' work colleague was in danger. He just went to save only her.
What exactly is kino? I keep hearing but I don't have fucking clue.
>>70189297
Objectively, BvS is a miserable and boring experience that lasts too long.
>>70189380
>Also, Clark doesn't like saving people.
Which is the complete opposite of Superman.
>>70189203
Nah, if it was reminiscent of Scientology, there would be a lot more anger and abuse accompanied by a lot less patience.
>>70189410
Objectively, you are a pleb with no idea what the word objective means.
>>70189425
Sounds exactly like DC fans.
>>70189415
That's the point
>>70189461
So the point was to intentionally and completely get Superman's entire character wrong.
Thanks Zack.
>>70189452
Objectively, your a cuck with autism
>>70189508
>Get handed the keys to the company car
>Drive it into a tree
If you were given the opportunity to make a Superman story would you have the character kill someone?
>>70188937
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>>70188997
All of us are raised to be heroes. All our parents raise us to step up and rise to the occasion. The difference with Clark is that once he reveals what he is and what he can do, there's no going back from that. Jonathan understands this and understands what a game-changer that will be for humanity. Jonathan is giving Clark time to grow mature enough to bear up beneath the weight of the expectations that all humanity will thrust upon him, to stay his course and trust his moral compass to see him through, and most importantly, to make his own decisions.
>>70189415
Even worse, since he lacks all humanity you don't care about his death either.
This could have been easily avoided too. They could have included a scene with him bringing back a flown away balloon to a child and then show him actually smiling at the kidir simething like that. You know, small things that show us that he actually likes being a superhero.
>>70175141
It was a good movie filled with deeper shit.
This thread will devolve into shitposting though because this is a site for man children that literally choose sides in a comic book company rivalry.
>>70189757
>All of us are raised to be heroes. All our parents raise us to step up and rise to the occasion.
Nigga it ain't 1952 anymore, we Doritos, Mtn Dew, and calladooty now. Superman is outdated and MoS and BvS are what Warner thinks would be popular products. Snyder is a salesman not an artist.
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>>70177867
Not sure if this is fucking pathetic or actually decent research, actually , scratch that
>Wasting time to analyze capeshit this deeply
>>70177968
>Kilo Kino
Jesus fuck, why is this board so damn autistic
>>70189962
I'm sorry. You deserve better. Demand better. Be better.
>>70189757
>All of us are raised to be heroes. All our parents raise us to step up and rise to the occasion.
Except Clark. He was raised to do nothing and let people die.
>>70190032
It's """satire""" and bait. The funny part is people actually take these seriously.
>>70190038
It's not your fault, I'm glad there's still people like you out there who aren't too jaded to help people grow. You're one of the good ones, anon :)
>>70187641
It's open to interpretation which is one of the things I love so much about bvs/ mos. It's not linear, it's not cut in stone.
The themes in moby dick and it's execution was great but stop elevating it to some kind of sacred narrative
>>70188357
/Thread
>>70179891
Was it kino or autism?
So what was Lex's plan if Doomsday had won? Just let the unstoppable monster destroy the world?
>>70190053
Let me throw something at you that just occurred to me. Isn't the last thing the bus driver did before they hit the water was open the bus's door? If the kids at the front had been "heroes" or even just not panicky animals, shouldn't there have never been a need to push the entire bus out of the water to begin with?
Maybe the point is that if everyone were doing their part, Clark would never have had to go to "super heroic" lengths in the first place.
>>70190352
They go hand in hand. See Refn.
>>70190470
>Isn't the last thing the bus driver did before they hit the water was open the bus's door?
"no"
>>70190470
If the driver were responsible nobody would have to even worry about pulling the bus out.
>>70190074
I made this image >>70177810
and I can confirm it's satire. I made that image after finals and a few beers.
>>70190463
That was a win-win for Lex, but only if Clark had killed Bruce. When Bruce was on the other end of that call, Lex knew he was completely screwed.
Under more favorable circumstances, Lex would have sent his "Justice League" out to either kill Doomsday with dead Bruce's k-weaponry, or to apprehend or kill Clark, now a fugitive for the murder of Bruce.
>>70190053
That's right. He would do more harm to humanity by saving them than he would by not saving them.
>jesse eisenberg returning in justice league
what
the
fuck
>>70190463
>Implying Goyer even bothered to think it through
>Implying Lex even knew what he was doing
This movie was about dumbasses just doing things, don't over think it
>>70190674
He was great, I for one am happy
>>70190730
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>70190674
Continuity
They need to show that all of DCEE kinos are connected
>>70190676
>I didn't understand so it doesn't make sense
>>70190545
When the "stop" sign on the side of a bus swings out(at least back in the 80s and 90s), it means the door's been opened. When it comes out of the water, the door's already opened.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=man+of+steel+bus&&view=detail&mid=3A9A232DE42BB6FCADBA3A9A232DE42BB6FCADBA&FORM=VRDGAR
Where's the driver? Who is it that's supposed to be the hero here again?
>>70187641
>A book has many pages so a REFERENCE can't be small
retard.
>>70190805
>Gonna get sum kryptonite to kill the alien
>Gonna get some weirdo in Gotham to fight da alien
>Oh yeah better kidnap the alien's mom too
>Guess I'll make a cave troll
wtf r u doin lex
>>70190914
Perfect abused wealthy kid logic
>>70190914
Your plan made sense when it started. Now it makes less.
>>70190914
>man, these logos came out pretty sweet!
>gonna try to market a team of heroes, but I need a legitimate threat
>maybe I can make people hate this alien
>maybe if I play my cards right, I can even get the government to help me
>maybe if I threaten to kill his mom, I can get the alien to kill this lunatic who doesn't even realize I'm pushing his buttons
>goofus alien so stupid he thinks I'll keep my bargain lulz
>wtf is taking him so long to kill Iron-Bat?
>Shit. Something's wrong.
>WTF!!?? Where's the nut's head I told him to bring? I'mscrewedI'mscrewedI'mscrewed.
>Stupid alien. Eat a monster. Idgaf. Fuck this gay earth.
>>70190850
Continuity error perhaps, the doors were locked when the bus was submerged.
Kids are to shit scared to head towards the sinking portion of the bus.
The driver is knocked out. The driver would have herded everyone out if he wasn't
>>70191583
If that were really his motivation he wouldn't have created Doomsday, would have just asked Superman to join his team.
Let's say you're right, Lex forms the CIA to stop Satan?
>>70190914
>Gonna get sum kryptonite to kill the alien
Nothing wrong with that
>Gonna get some weirdo in Gotham to fight da alien
The only reachable "superhero" with a proven track record of crime fighting and enough baggage to manipulate.
>Oh yeah better kidnap the alien's mom too
No other way to instigate a fight where superman would go all out
>Guess I'll make a cave troll
Having a plan b is just good business
>>70191899
So his Plan B was "destroy the world"? Seems kind of stupid.
>>70191583
That plan requires every one of those "heroes" to be oblivious of how insane he is.
>>70191822
As an aside, why do so many WB superhero movies have the CIA in them?
>>70191960
If that's what it took. A world in rubble is better than a world worshiping a false god
>>70191822
Sure he needed Doomsday. Because without Superman's involvement, he has no one else to blame his creation on. Doomsday is also a great way to keep Superman busy while your mercy kill Martha and Lois.
>>70175141
Oh boy, yet another dump of pics and copypastas explaining why this turd that not even Jeremy Irons liked isn't garbage.
>>70192556
Because he's the author of all their pain
>>70177968
>"feelm"
murricans
>>70192897
Elaborate pls
I don't think i've ever seen a fanbase so deep in denial such as DCfags.
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>>70175596
Did his dad fist him???
>>70192556
Movies get mega-ass breaks when they have gov agencies in them, it's like product placement. And also the CIA runs Time Warner and DC.
>>70193815
You are saying that CIA is the one in charge?
>>70193852
No, it's what they're saying.
>>70188062
>it was brought up by supes in a mind-numbingly dumb way
how so? everyone says "why the fuck would Superman call his mom martha" but why the fuck would he call her "mom" when talking to batman? batman doesn't know who the fuck superman's mom is
What the fuck did this thread turn into
>>70190674
They might use the jail time to tone him down a bit. They could use Supes coffin time to make him smile more, dying made him more appreciative of life and seeing the world united after his death could give the faith he's lacking now. Or something. It would make sense.
>>70198705
I just want to forget this whole experience and start over again
>>70194830
>implying no further exposition can happen
You can paint it gold and break down its essence, but shit is shit in the end.
>>70197967
Reply to me with another zoom in
>>70199076
>>70198817
It wasn't all bad, the plot and dialogue aren't the best but the music was good and the movie looked gorgeous. You can't take that away from Snyder, he makes pretty images. The problem is just that the movie is slow build up to a final act that looks like shit and is confusing, and after all the cgi clusterfuck climax (that has great music though), you get a drawn out epilogue.
>>70199098
Another
>>70199118
> You can't take that away from Snyder, he makes pretty images
The problem isn't that movies aren't power point presentations. He can set up a single shot that looks good but in motion everything looks like ass.
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>>70199246
That last fight is a confusing clusterfuck that looks awful and is hard to follow. Snyder is obsessed with making everything fast and it just makes it hard to read.
>>70199246
>He can set up a single shot that looks good but in motion everything looks like ass.
I disagree. The batman arkham scene was excellent motion. Same goes for the supe savior montage. The only thing that really looked like ass was doomsday and the island fight.
>>70199118
MoS and BvS just feel like huge fuckall soulless commercials. Snyder can make pretty pictures, sure, in the same way JJ makes fun remix playlist films. It's style. The difference is Snyder asks you to look deeper into his work and when you do you only find confused ugliness.
>>70199369
It worked in MoS, it feels like he tried to take it up notch in BvS and overdid it.
>>70199435
>huge fuckall soulless commercials
That's how I'd describe almost every marvel movie. Except for Cap and Iron man 1, and GotG. Everything else is lazy cashgrabs. MoS and BvS are kinos, or great films, Amy Whatever and Russel Crowe sucked ass and dragged the movies everytime they're on the screen, but I still find them entertaining with some memorable pieces.
>>70199691
>MoS and BvS are kinos, or great films
This is why capeshitters will always be a joke.
>>70199772
Meant aren't.
>>70199435
Because Snyder is a music video director, and music videos are just soulless commercials to attach to songs.
>>70179224
>but Superman could recover
He had the Kryptonite spear 2 inches from Superman's face.
Wayne is fighting Kal more out of emotional rage than anything (Affleck's acting and his various u-not-a-man speeches hint at this). So he's already fighting out of anger, and hearing Supes saying that he could SAVE Martha (not just hey bro my mom's Martha lmao) is what sends him over the edge. After all, the super advanced and overpowered space alien might know how to revive dead people or some shit. How the hell would he know?
>>70199691
Agreed. There were parts that were interesting but not for a Superman film. If you're going to deconstruct something you have to redefine it as well. This requires an awareness and appreciation for whatever you're tearing apart. He made some badass pieces but they don't it together into what a Superman story should be.
This thread and the couple others up right now show that this wasn't meant to be a story but a coded corporate ritual, a commercial, which is fine but don't fucking use Superman if that's what you're doing. It perverts everything the character means to people.
>>70194830
Are you trying to fool me or yourself dude?
Reminder that the prophecies told of Jeremy Irons being Judas.
>>70199192
You're just being a whore now
>>70178171
like it happened with transformers and twilight and 50 shades and roland emerrich movies
>>70179088
Batman already knows Clarks mother is named Martha since he is a fucking brilliant detective and knows Superman real identity even Lex knows, it shouldnt have surprised Batman or move him in any way or it should have done so when he found out the first time and never fight Clark in the first place
this movie is garbage
>>70201559
>Throwing out assumptions (however false) to justify your opinion
Don't be THAT guy anon
>>70201745
batman super power is prep time, is an assumption based on his character in the comic and in the same movie (he actually acts like a detective here and preps for the fight with Clark), he should have already know Supes identity and in the party scene he acts like he already knows
>>70201559
>>70201745
You know another angle that someone pointed out about that scene the other day that hadn't occurred to me? When Bruce has his Man-Bat nightmare, we see Martha's name on her vault, but his dad's name is obscured by flowers. This scene is already heavy with insight into Bruce's character and psychology, but one angle I'd never considered is that his whole career could basically be interpreted as him trying to be the hero and protector that his father failed to be.
Now here he is about to kill this "alien threat," just to hear his own father's dying words(or rather, word) from the lips of his "enemy."
>>70201559
It's possible, but I believe what made Bruce wavers is not the fact that Supe's mother name is the same as Bruce's (it certainly has effect, but not that much), but the fact that Bruce's hated enemy, the one that in his eyes are only but disillusioned, inhumane god, loves his mother. It struck Bruce as very human, and end up relate to him because Bruce thinks that his greatest failure is that he failed to protect his family (i.e. his mother), and Supe's mom having the same name with Bruce's means that he now has his chance of redemption by protecting Superman!Martha, something he's actually do later.
It's pretty childish, thinking protecting another's mom means protecting his lost own, but Bruce's mom killed in his childhood, so it's very possible that he is indeed childish in regards of that.
>>70202447
But did you notice the sticker coming out of Batman's hand in that picture?
>>70202715
Batman's whole motivation is making sure That Night never happens again
>>70202447
That's actually quite an interesting take
>>70202338
The fact that there was no allusion to Supermans alter ego is proof that he never learnt about his origin further cemented by his shock at the revelation that supes had a mother
>and in the party scene he acts like he already knows
How the fuck did you get this scene wrong? No, that's Bruce Wayne being a Chad asshole
>>70177613
Why Wondy look good right there?
>>70190914
you ever read lex in a JL comic from the 90s?
It makes me so sad that this is the film I have to show my kids if I ever have them
It isn't the characters I love
>>70177867
So much symbolism that ultimately can't fix that the movie is a mess.
>>70203697
Is this a Lex from the 90s or is this Mark Zuckerberg Lex?
>>70203700
it's even sadder that this is actually something that registers in your thoughts on your own future children
>>70177284
because they hired a meme actor to play a role differently to drum up controversy.
Remember to sage in DCuck threads. Don't let them turn this into another baneposting forced meme.
>>70203772
just saying that lex playing different cards at different times is par the course
as far as the mannerisms i didn't care about them
>>70203841
This isn't a meme, it's just damage control.
>>70177284
bruh, not everyone speaks with the same vernacular u feel me?
>the emperor's new movie.
>>70180737
>yfw they use the Rebirth plot about Watchmen
![033bdbbdb9084d96c23c6824dfacfaef[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/s0ZmnCN.jpg "033bdbbdb9084d96c23c6824dfacfaef[1].jpg")
>>70175141
The main theme of Snyder's "Batman v Superman" on spiritual dematerialism is not eschatological, but a phenomenological ontology. Thus he implies that we have to choose between predialectic construction and deconstructivist neodialectic theory, essentially Heideggerian as seen in the concept of Dasein. The subject is interpolated then into a cinematic dematerialism that includes spirituality as a whole. But if the Kierkegaardian worldview holds, we have to choose between the cultural paradigm of expression and atomism. In Snyder's own "Man of Steel" he has a character says that "the world's too big”. Inherent in this is how the function of Lebenswelt (cinematically translated by Snyder as "world of life") operates in all his films, chiefly in "Sucker Punch" and "300". We see a phenomenological approach to the world showing a cinematic logic that presupposes a strucutral constraint in rootedness, another intentionality central to his filmography and philosophy. Because "metaphysical comfort" is not an object of temporality per se, but rather an aspect of automatic condition, as suggested by Cavell. Hermeneutic interpretations are also apparent in his post-"Watchmen" movies; in fact the interchangeable subjectivities are but another representation of Husserl's and Wittgenstein's "form of life". As his academic hero Heidegger succintly noted, "freedom is the ‘abyss’ of Dasein, its groundless or absent ground". This is essentially the thesis operating in Snyder's films.
>>70204306
Literally too smart for Marvelplebs
Based Snyder
>>70204306
>words words words
Whatever man, I go to 4chan to masturbate, so unless your paragraphs have nude woman, I won't even try to read it.
>>70204306
>and this is why this movie that even some actors that appeared in it hated it is not garbage
>>70204306
You're literally casting pearls before swine
>>70178872
t.dcuck
>>70204306
>The main theme of Bird's "Invincibles" on spiritual dematerialism is not eschatological, but a phenomenological ontology.
>>70190674
For this iteration of lex, he was fine. I wouldnt trust him to be a charismatic and megalomaniac type like spacey and hackman were though
>>70204306
Obvious troll. The meme pictures are at least accurate.
>>70204306
This is the kind of posting we need more of
>>70205254
You seen him in "The Social Network?"
Dude was legit domineering, cold, and justifiably arrogant in that.
>>70205398
Droning over objectively horrible movies that nobody liked from an already bad genre?
![1463387657320[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PVsraqx.jpg "1463387657320[1].jpg")
>>70205534
Why couldn't we have had that in BvS?
>>70205541
Are we back to throwing the objective ball around again? Objectively, that's the best post on /tv/ right meow.
![1464586090126[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tFfsTbz.jpg "1464586090126[1].jpg")
>>70205674
>>70205731
>>70205767
Oh boy, more pic and copypasta dump failing to explain why the movie isn't complete trash.
Sorry phams, BvS was a failure, the DCEU is crumbling away, and you are not going to change the world's opinion who, thankfully, were smart enough to not fall for this.
>>70205739
I think we're going to get it if he recovers from mind-breaking knowledge. I think all that "lolquirkytechwiz!XD" crap was pure affectation. It will make revealing his true personality all that more creepy, especially if we see it happen during the same movie as the "fake" one, like it's a mask he pulls on from time to time to throw people off.
>>70175141
God didnt noticed it.
I'm waiting for the extended cut to rewatch, loved the movie, but i want a fresh experience
