xmen vs. avengers: who wins?
>>70117859
Xmen
Blink
Quicksilver
Jean grey
Rogue
Wolverine
>>70117904
But quicksilver was an avenger first you retard.
Avengers for Hulk alone
>>70118161
>x men DOFP - 2014
>Avengers 2 - 2015
Looks like it isn't the case retard
>muh comics
If you're talking that shit take it to /co/
>>70117859
They've fought before and it was always implied the X-Men would lose. The Avengers were on another level
>>70117859
X-Men in the movies are too powerful. The only ones really able to portray any threat are the Hulk, Thor, and Vision.
Captain America, Black Panther, Winter Soldier, Ant Man, Spider-Man, Scarlett Witch, Hawk Eye, Black Widow and Falcon would get BTFO quick as shit. Iron Man and War Machine could put up some sort of fight.
>>70118290
>list of movie x-men movie cap could beat the shit out of
Cyclops
Wolverine
Iceman
Rogue
Nightcrawler
Shadowcat
Beast
Angel
Mystique
Havok
Banshee
Bishop
Blink
Warpath
Negasonic Teenage Warhead
Jubilee
>mutie scum cap could not beat the shit out of
Charles
Magneto
Storm
Jean Grey
Colossus
Sunspot
Quicksilver
Storm
Jean Grey
Now the whole thing is there are teams at play, so no one person needs to be able to beat every X-Men themselves. You're treating every mutant like they're Storm or Jean. If even just Cap's list looks like this, Iron Man, War Machine, Ant-Man, Scarlet Witch, and Spider-Man could all do some damage to most X-Men. Even Falcon is a better Angel than Angel, and Hawkeye could tag anyone without a defensive power.
>>70117859
Professor X will mind control everything Avengers members litreally unbeatable
>>70119016
>cap taking down wolverine
Lol
don't care but i would watch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubeMAFepO_E
Phoenix xould arguably solo the main Avengers roster
>>70119055
Cap is faster and his specialty is ending up in rivers, Wolverine's one true weakness.
>>70119117
Phoenix is arguably not an X-Men.
And the Phoenix Force ain't no Infinity Stone when you're talking about the movies.
>>70118172
Xavier can fuck his mind
>>70119268
In the new movie Jean is shown to have slight control of her phoenix powers. And Vision doesn't know how to use the soul gem to its full power. All he doesn't with it is cripple a black guy.
Wolverine can go toe to toe with Hulk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM8Bzli2q7k
>>70119289
No he really can't, the best telepaths on Earth can't do shit to the Hulk's mind when he gets going because it's the mental equivalent of sticking your hand into a blast furnace
>>70117859
Comics? X-Men. Ice-Man is a one-man extinction-level event by himself, let alone heavier hitters or the space elements of the comics.
Movies? Avengers would fuck their shit up. Magneto is the only major threat left, but he's up shit creek against Iron Man (whose suit is, ironically, not magnetic) never mind Thor or Vision.
>>70119314
>All he does is cripple a black guy
Well worth it
>>70119372
Magneto can control metal regardless of whether its magnetic or not.
Hell he can make himself levitate using bullshit.
Also he doesn't need something to be metal to utterly fuck it up. He could pick up a truck and launch it at iron man.
>>70119324
>Hulk
>red blood
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>70119324
Mother fucker got torn in half
>>70119289
No he can't
see >>70119349
The Hulks Mind is boundless overpowering rage. Any Telepath that tries to mess with his mind get's hella feed back and almost fries their own mind.
The Best they can do is mess with Bruce Banners mind but this only serves to make the Hulk even stronger.
>>70119314
She's had that since the 2nd movie anon, but either way you don't want that really coming out full force or she ends up killing X-Men.
And who cares what Vision knows how to do? They've got a stone, it doesn't have to be Vision using it. Shit, if Scarlet Witch can control an Infinity Stone then we don't even have to wait for the MCU to show her at full power. It's probably a safe assumption she can take on Jean, at least until she's forced to actually become the real Phoenix. Which is probably how the shitty movie version of this ends, with them team up to stop Phoenix.
>>70119528
in ultimate marvel though
>>70119314
>And Vision doesn't know how to use the soul gem to its full power.
This is not even remotely what they said or implied in Civil war.
Vision only admits he doesn't know how to control it. That doesn't mean he can't go full nuclear meltdown with it.
Control can either mean tapping into it's full power or keeping the full power at bay so he doesn't destroy the whole world with it. In this case it's mostly the later. In this case he tries to keep back as much of the power as he can so he doesn't accidentally an entire planet.
>>70119372
>Comics?
>>70119324
Wolverine at beast can piss off and survive the Hulk. Go toe to toe with the Hulk? LoL, no!
>>70119314
mind gem, not soul
>>70119314
>All he doesn't with it is cripple a black guy
Yeah, and that's him trying to pull his punches doofus, guess what he fucked it up because he didn't know how to control it.
>>70117859
well, hulk is immortal, int he?
>>70119845
I'm pretty sure he ages normally so he'd die within a normal lifespan. can any /co/ fags confirm or deny?
>>70120104
No one ever really ages normally in comics
>>70120104
He ages more slowly.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uhJdY6v.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>70117859
Who is more powerful Loki or Jason?
>>70120104
Bruce Banner ages normally. The Hulk is unaffected by age. There was a comic were bruce banner was fuck old like in his 110's. He'd be lying on his death bed and everytime he was about to slip away into the sweet embrace of death the Hulk would take over and be just as spry as he ever was. On top of that by virtue of turning into the hulk it would heal bruces body just enough to live on for a few more months before he turned into the hulk yet again.
>>70118172
What happens if Rogue touches Hulk? Also he could be neutralized easily by Magneto wrapping him up and flinging him into space
>>70120104
Nigga shot himself in the head and didn't die, even if Bruce Banner is about to die Hulk will just come out
>>70120382
isnt that the comic where banner has a bunch of children and they are all a bunch of redneck cannibals mini-hulks and old-man logan still kills all of them and even kills hulk in the end
>wolverine gets eaten by hulk
>wolverine cuts open hulk from the inside and rips him apart
>cant regenerate from that hulky
>>70120320
Loki even though he's weak as fuck in the movies
>>70120524
found it
>>70117859
SWEET DREAMS ARE MADE OF THIS
>>70120576
dead hulk here
>>70120524
No! That's a different story ark were Banner goes full on Hannibal lector insane and the division between the hulk and banners psyche is much, much, thinner. To the point the are almost one and the same person.
>>70120524
Thats Old Man Logan. One Shots aren't really canon. Hulk does age at much slower rate then humans, example: Maestro
>>70120461
What happened when that other fag tried to absorb the Hulk? It was too much for him and some teen girl isn't going to able to handle it.
However she did absorb she-hulk's powers.
>>70120654
Comic Rogue is OP
Movie Rogue is useless.
>>70120461
>What happens if Rogue touches Hulk?
She pops. Hulk laughs because it tickles
>>70120654
>However she did absorb she-hulk's powers.
She Hulk is exponentially weaker than The Hulk.
>>70119016
>Wolverine
What would he do against him? Cap is faster and stronger, but that doesn't matter much when your opponent regenerates and is reinforced by adamantium which also can cut through his one weapon/defense
>Iceman
He was BTFO by normal Earth temperatures Iceman would murder him
>Rogue
depends on if she's powered up with something beforehand. If not he'd have to end it quick because one touch and he's dead
>Nightcrawler
Nigger please. Just teleport and drop first class style
>>70120834
>reinforced by adamantium which also can cut through his one weapon/defense>Iceman
Adamantium is useless against vibranium anon. This has been well established comic canon.
>>70119016
What would cap, falcon, hawkeye, widow, antman or hulk do again shadowcat? Yea she can't fight in the movies but besides vision and witch no avenger would be able to hurt her.
>>70120834
>reinforced by adamantium which also can cut through his one weapon/defense
Jesus christ stop talking about shit you have absolutely zero knowledge in, casual.
>>70120966
completely wrong. cap's shield isn't vibranium in the comics
>>70121084
this is /tv/ where it's been established that his shield is vibranium. In the MCU it's stated that it absorbs all vibration, but nowhere is it stated that it's indestructible, whereas in the Foxverse adamantium is stated as indestructible unless hit with another adamantium weapon
>>70121372
You just spent 15 minutes reading wikipedia articles, didn't you?
>>70121541
comicvine but yea essentially just to back up my hunch it's 630 so what the fuck better to do but shitpost
>>70120976
>shadowcat is always using her powers guys!
No.
>>70120834
>What would [Cap] do against [Wolverine]?
Tie him up? Kick him off a cliff? Push him in a body of water? Pin him to a wall by stabbing him? There's lots of ways to neutralize Wolverine without needing him to be dead.
>adamantium which also can cut through his one weapon/defense
No anon, just no.
>Iceman would murder him
Gotta hit him first and it's not like movie Iceman is the all powerful comic version. Cap could chop ice-form movie Bobby in half with his shield, probably just from throwing it. I mean the guy can curl a helicopter. The shield probably protects him from icebeams the same way it doesn't heat up when Iron Man shoots his repulsors at it.
>if [Rogue's] powered up with something beforehand. If not he'd have to end it quick because one touch and he's dead
Even when powered up, movie Rogue is shit. And implying one touch will kill Captain America, top lel. If only the super fast, super strong Captain Rogers could keep a 20 something girl from touching his face. Surely, Cap is doomed.
>Just teleport and drop first class style
It's not like Steve Rogers has ever survived an incredible fall in the movies, both with and without the shield. And again, Cap has super human reflexes. That doesn't just mean dodging, it means predicting where Nightcrawler is likely to pop up. How many teleporters have you seen killed for being predictable? That's how shitty Deadpool in Origins died, wasn't it? To teleport drop someone, he needs to be able to let go of them. Cap is definitely enhanced enough to keep a hand on Nightcrawler if he tried to pull that shit.
>>70119016
anon why did you list jean grey twice
>>70121896
I agree with all of these except Wolverine. I don't see Cap taking Wolverine out.
>>70122017
One for each personality ?
>>70120607
>Hulk
>Dead
...and that's why I don't like Old Man Logan, it's full of inconsistences. The character is cool, don't get me wrong, but everything else sucks.
>>70121896
>The shield probably protects him from icebeams the same way it doesn't heat up when Iron Man shoots his repulsors at it.
if anything his shield would be more vulnerable to cold attacks because it eradicates vibrations
>>70121896
>Tie him up? Kick him off a cliff? Push him in a body of water? Pin him to a wall by stabbing him? There's lots of ways to neutralize Wolverine without needing him to be dead.
Wolvy is a superious fighter himself, Cap can't do shit
>>70117859
>Magneto vs iron manlet
>Logan vs cpt puertorico
>Quicksilver vs spider"man"
>Jean vs ANYONE
>>70122139
Movie Wolverine loses against Movie Cap.
Cap is superhumanly strong, and a master fighter. Wolverine has lost to worse fighters than Cap
>>70122266
>superhumanly strong, and a master fighter
So does Wolverine. plus adamantium bone, super healing
>>70122266
The more I'm thinking about it, the more I'm starting to think you're right. Wolverine does get knocked out all the fucking time.
>>70117859
>comics
It depends who's on who's team. If it's the regular Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, and Ant Man vs cyclops, Jean(no phoenix), Ice Man, Woverine, beast, storm, and rogue, then it'd be pretty even. Jean could probably mind control Hulk, assuming it's not WWhulk and he has that stupid crown thing that blocks telepaths, and the avengers would be on the losing side simply due to lack of numbers. However if they're serious about it, and the avengers want to murder the xmen, then it would be no challenge. Antman has op as fuck tech, Iron man has a shitload of armors and has even made a celestial killer armor before. Thor can destroy planets and hurt beings as powerful as Galactus when not holding back. I mean shit, Thor beat half of the xmen team, absorbing man, Loki, Enchantress, Hobgoblin, and fucking Apocalypse all at the same in a comic a few years ago. It would be a massacre. If you include their whole rosters, then xmen would probably be even more fucked, since Scarlet witch(she's an avenger first), Hyperion, Wonder man, and captain universe would join the avengers.
>movies
Quicksilver soloes.
Magneto can disarm cap, make tony's own suit eat him up, literally spit at hawkeye and widow and kill both.
The only major threats would be thor and hulk.
>>70122285
Still didn't see wolvy lift a car or hold a helicopter
>>70117859
Don't matter. Dis nigga beat da black offa all dae asses Fucc Boi
>>70122017
Copy and pasting error.
>>70122044
All Cap needs to do is neutralize Wolverine, not kill him. If Blonsky can dance with Hulk 1v1 for even a minute, then Cap can take Wolverine.
>>70122112
You can't just say "if anything" and follow it with bullshit.
>>70122139
MCU Cap is stronger, faster, and a better hand to hand fighter than movie Wolverine. Plus Wolverine gets knocked out from regular bullets shooting him in the head, I'm pretty sure a Cap-strength vibranium shield bash to the head would make him sleepy.
>>70122401
Magneto would be killed immediately, because the team would know he's the biggest threat and so they'd send Thor against him, like they always do.
>Mag's face when he realises that he can't control the "metal" hammer, a split second before it caves his head in
>>70122663
>MCU Cap is stronger, faster, and a better hand to hand fighter than movie Wolverine
Don't see that
> Plus Wolverine gets knocked out from regular bullets shooting him in the head, I'm pretty sure a Cap-strength vibranium shield bash to the head would make him sleepy.
If Cap was the one who got that bullet, he would lie under six feet now.
>>70122707
But it is stated that Magneto can control the iron inside the blood, wouldn't he be able to rip Thor appart from the inside out?
Or at least block his bloodflow to make him suffer a heart attack.
>>70122736
>Don't see that
Matt Murdock can see that.
>If Cap was the one who got that bullet
You know Cap's got a shield right?
Your shitposting isn't up to snuff.
>>70122401
>make tony's own suit eat him up
I don't think you know how magnets work.
>>70122787
>But it is stated that Magneto can control the iron inside the blood
Mystique had to inject the guard with iron to give him a high enough iron-content to let old-and-more-powerful-Magneto use it to escape.
He ain't doing shit with regular Asgardian blood, and definitely not faster than Thor throws the hammer.
Magneto can control atoms (electro-MAGENTIC force), make impenetrable shields and literally rip the fabric of space time. That kinds of control essentially translates to full force telekinesis (he can control all material, because all atoms have the elctro0magentic force) and transmutation (turning one material to another)
Full power Magneto can destroy ANY non-god in the metaverse.
Avengers are children next to him.
>>70122802
Every strike Wolverine hits Cap would be a one hit kill. While he could easy scrub off cap's attack due to his regenate ability
>>70122826
He can bend metal at his will, compressing tony's body in the suit, literally making billionare juice.
>>70122841
>>70122707
>pic
>>70122736
>Don't see that
How the fuck do you not? Wolverine's fighting throughout the movies has amounted to popping his claws and slashing at people/healing his wounds. It's what made his fight against Mystique have a semblance of fairness.
Cap, meanwhile, has been shown to be strong, fast and a hand-to-hand combatant every step of the way, sending people flying with a kick and shit.
>If Cap was the one who got that bullet, he would lie under six feet now.
Good thing Cap knows that and has his shield to protect himself from it. Wolverine on the other hand just lets people shoot him because "lol can't hurt me.".
>>70118236
>The Avengers were on another level
Sorry, but Magneto now most powerful marvel hero in cinematic universe.
>>70122928
>hero
>>70122941
Well, he kinda is, sometimes, when he feels like it.
>>70122928
With the speeds Quicksilver was moving at when saving Mags he'd be able to punch everyone's heads off before they realised he was on the same continent as them. He's a way bigger threat than Mags.
>>70122663
>. Plus Wolverine gets knocked out from regular bullets shooting him in the head
Watch Apocalypse. Wolverine killed like 40 military armed man in rage mode barehanded.
Reminder that both combined can do jack shit against literally god.
>>70122997
>barehanded
>comparing Cap to random scrubs
>implying Cap didnt do the same in Civil War with the German specops
>>70122913
>Cap, meanwhile, has been shown to be strong, fast and a hand-to-hand combatant every step of the way, sending people flying with a kick and shit.
All are meme opponents with no superpower, yet he is struggle to fight every single of them. He had a hard time with that terrorist guy on the ship, while if Wolverine is that guy's opponent. he coulld easily finish him in 3 seconds
>>70122987
>He's a way bigger threat than Mags.
Mags very useful against metal, this mean - captain shield, iron man, hawkeye bow, blackpanther suit, bucky hand, vision and even thor hammer to some extent i think.
>>70123015
literally who?
>>70123028
But you see, people actually shoot at wolverine, and not trying to fistfight him, like with cap.
>>70123043
Sentry.
Killed Ares.
Stopped WW Hulk (most powerful hulk version).
But get rekt by thor and loki.
>>70122901
>He can bend metal at his will
>>>/co/
We're talking about movies only.
>>70122893
>Every strike Wolverine hits Cap would be a one hit kill.
That's not even a little true. First, Wolverine has to hit Cap. Second, he has to hit Cap and not his shield. Third, his claws aren't some kind of disintegration beam. You can stab a human lots of places and it won't kill them, on top of that is Cap's own superhuman healing. While it's no Wolverine instant regeneration, Cap (and Bucky) has survived some fucked up shit. Not every little slash from Wolverine means Cap is dead in "one hit."
>While he could easy scrub off cap's attack due to his regenate ability
One blow to Logan's head from the shield and he's out cold, see X2. And like I posted above and you should know because it was in DofP, you don't have to kill Wolverine to take him out of the equation. If Wolverine was held down, Cap could probably rip his arm off he's so strong.
>it's a capeshit thread on /tv/
>>70123120
>We're talking about movies only.
Watch apocalypse. He can do anything with metal now.
>>70123120
Then it's absolutelly not fair because in the movies they portrayed the avengers like they are in the comics while the x-men are literal nobodies.
>>70123151
lol'd
I want to say Avengers, because I prefer them as a whole, but as a die hard absolutely biased Magneto fanboy I cannot do that. So I abstain.
>>70123031
You're in some special kind of denial if you're just writing off Cap's speed, strength, and technique because Wolverine has knives in his arms and a healing factor.
>>70123038
In the comics Magneto can control magnetic fields and certain metals, including Adamantium.
In the movies, he can only control metals that are magnetic.
Tony's armour is not magnetic in the movies due to its composition. In the comics he also has non-magnetic suits and ones with metals Magneto can't control if they need to fight.
Magneto and a lot of the X-Men's power has been turned way down from their comics level for the movies. The MCU stuff on the other hand is basically in line with the comics.
>>70123066
They bought gattling guns and GAU-8s out against Cap in the movies. Didn't work so well.
>>70123180
Who couldn't love the absolutelly based omega level master of metal?
>>70123031
>He had a hard time with that terrorist guy on the ship
That was a cream of the crop hand-to-hand combatant getting his supervillain introduction, fool.
Wolverine isn't even the best hand-to-hand guy in the X-men for god's sake. All he relies on his being able to tank everything that's thrown on him and being able to slice through everything with his claws. It's all he ever does in the movies.
>>70123120
>First, Wolverine has to hit Cap
Even Crossbones hit cap few times.
And wolverine very experienced fighter.
>One blow to Logan's head
Nah, not strong enough. And in rage mode would not work.
Also, claws - adamantium. One hit and you have 2 caps.
>>70123231
Don't forget that Logan's mutation also increases his senses and physical capabilities, being on par in speed with Cap if not surpassing him and having really good reflexes.
>>70123231
>And in rage mode would not work.
>dude you can't be knocked out if you're really really mad! BERSERKER POWER FUCK YEAH
Please stop.
>>70123207
>In the movies, he can only control metals that are magnetic.
Watch apocalypse. magneto now can control magnetic fields with ease.
Also, magneto can control adamantium in movies. Old ones and new.
>>70123180
>die hard absolutely biased Magneto fanboy
same here, why Magneto so perfect bros?
>>70123263
Are you this retarded?
Do you know how adrenaline works?
>>70123257
>being on par in speed with Cap if not surpassing him and having really good reflexes.
It's funny how we've NEVER been shown this in all the movies with Wolverine.
>>70123263
>Please stop.
Anon, this is exactly what happened in Apoc. Bullets can't stop logan in rage mode.
>>70123286
Adrenaline is not a invulnerability potion that stops you from being knocked or choked out.
>>70123295
Exactly, it feels like all the x-men movies portray mutants as severelly underpowered when most of the global threats are mutantkind.
Xavier for example, in the films he is literally useless considering the fuckery he pulls out in the comics.
>"Lol Magnus nice mind you have there bud let me just rip it out of your fucking jewish head"
>>70123340
Adrenaline can reduce your pain on severe stress while also providing you of survivavility features such as speed and strenght.
>>70123158
Is that permanent after Apocalypse is defeated?
>>70123173
Well I'm glad somebody in this thread has come around.
>>70123392
Which doesn't help you in any way from being knocked out by a blow to the head or being deprived of oxygen.
The brain doesn't magically become impervious just because you don't feel pain.
>>70123416
>Is that permanent after Apocalypse is defeated?
Yep, it wasn't a boost from Apoc, just some psychology shit.
>>70119055
Movie wolverine is garbage.
>>70119324
Movie Wolverine got his shit pushed in my Mystique.
>>70117859
If we're talking cinematic universes, X-Men, easily.
Hell, Professor X could just make the Avengers all kill themselves - except Scarlet Witch and Vision. But then Jean and Rogue could take care of those two.
Not to mention the X-Men have far more numbers than the Avengers do.
If you're going to post shit like this, OP, you have to set more rules.
>>70123231
Your fanboyism is ridiculous.
I'm not saying Wolverine can't touch Cap ever, but his speed is just one thing that makes Wolverine winning overall way less likely. That's why it was first.
>Nah, not strong enough.
Absolutely strong enough. Wolverine gets knocked out by a normal cop's normal bullet. Cap 100% confirmed hits harder than that with his (unless you have vibranium of your own) indestructible shield.
>And in rage mode would not work.
If you're gonna make up "modes" then Cap is in "muh Bucky" mode. Good luck.
>Also, claws - adamantium. One hit and you have 2 caps.
Them being adamantium doesn't matter at all here, one good swing with a steel sword and you could have two Caps. You just can't get it out of your head that not every strike with the claws is going to be a clear cut through center mass. Grazing blows are a thing, especially when Cap can keep Wolverine off balance like he did Iron Man in Civil War with his strength and speed.
>>70123257
>being on par in speed with Cap if not surpassing him and having really good reflexes
James "Metal Bones" Howlett faster than Steve "On Your Left" Rogers? Are you watching the same movies we are?
>>70123472
Huh? I need the full story, I'm not gonna see that movie for weeks. How do you know it isn't from Apocalypse and how do you know it's permanent?
This isn't me doubting you because I think you're making shit up, I just need to know cause I haven't seen it.
>>70123626
>his speed is just one thing that makes Wolverine winning overall way less likely.
Wolverine hold his own against samurai with swords. He have good speed. And, I'm repeat, even normal humans landed a hit on cap.
>Cap 100% confirmed hits harder than bullet
You wot m8? Really? And how many people died from his shield?
>all of this Cap vs Wolverine
How is this even a debate?
In the movie universes, Cap is far superior to Wolverine. Wolverine is basically a dude with an adamantium skeleton and extreme healing factor. He has a lot of hand-to-hand experience, sure, but his reflexes and strength aren't anywhere near Cap's level. Movie Cap has literally dodged bullets and performed feats of strength that make Wolverine look like a quadriplegic infant by comparison.
Cap is faster, stronger, and more skilled than Wolverine. At least in the movies.
Wolverine would not land a single hit.
>muh crossbones
Yeah because Cap was clearly taking that fight seriouslyCrossbones would also beat the shit out of Wolverine, but would end up dying because he wouldn't be able to do enough to incapacitate him
PHOENIX FORCE SCOTT SUMMERS KILLS ALL THE AVENGERS
>>70123626
>Absolutely strong enough. Wolverine gets knocked out by a normal cop's normal bullet. Cap 100% confirmed hits harder than that with his (unless you have vibranium of your own) indestructible shield.
What the fucking logic ? Cap could evade Wolverine's strike, But Wolverine is now allowed to evade or something ? It's not like he is just stand there, waiting for Cap to hit him.
Friendly reminder that movie Wolverine lost a fight to Stryker
>>70123626
If we're talking about the movie this dude is not beating Cap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOBqfMx6Cn4
>>70118217
Quicksilver was in Winter Soldier first which came out two moths before DofP
Poor little cap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u5iAmk6CCs
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>>70123671
Apoc teleported him to Auschwitz.
Told him - you have more power than you know, you can move Earth itself.
Eric become all emotional and boom, power up.
>>70123873
>cap has close fight with a God
>"yup Wolverine would definitely take him in a fight!"
Jesus christ Wolverine-fags really are the worst.
>>70123724
>Cap is faster, stronger, and more skilled than Wolverine. At least in the movies.
t.roid dude ass licker
Serious, until they make a crossover and let those dudes fight each other, all the talk is pointless.
>>70124057
>>cap has close fight with a God
See this -> >>70123873
Also, Loki not a fighter, just a mage. And captain got rekt.
>>70123695
Okay ESL, have you not seen Civil War or Winter Soldier? There is no way you're telling me Wolverine is as fast as Captain America in the movies, you're just braindead if you think that.
And I know you have seen Winter Soldier because you keep bringing up Baltroc, who is supposed to be one of the best human fighters in the comics. His entire thing is that he's so good he can take on some superheros despite not having any powers. Baltroc is at least movie Mystique levels of hand to hand combat skill. So using him as a reason why Wolverine should beat Cap is stupid as fuck.
>You wot m8? Really?
Yes you condescending piece of shit. Cap can break all kinds of bullet proof shit with his shield, the biggest example people Iron Man's suit.
>And how many people died from his shield?
The fuck has that got to do with anything? I think you are genuinely retarded. Just because Cap doesn't try to kill people with his shield doesn't mean he can't.
>>70123724
>He has a lot of hand-to-hand experience, sure, but his reflexes and strength aren't anywhere near Cap's level.
He is pretty strong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTt904CIn4s
Can hold his own against robo suit.
>>70124124
>Loki not a fighter
Except for how he used to hang out with Thor and all his fighting friends, causing trouble by fighting.
Just because he's a trickster fighter that likes to fool around doesn't mean he can't fight. And it definitively doesn't mean he's not stronger, faster and tougher than humans.
>>70123783
Poignant clip, though it makes me feel like I wasted a lot of time talking about specifics.
I can't wait to see what the Wolverinefags say next.
>>70123963
Neat. I wonder if he can control Vision?
Eh it's probably be 100% a writers choice. Like if Vision was too OP Magneto could hold him, but if the Avengers side needed a heavy hitter then you can just say vibranium or the mind stone or both make him immune.
>>70124157
That's your big example?
Call me when he curls a helicopter.
I wouldn't exactly call that clip Wolverine "holding his own against robo suit."
>>70124258
>Neat. I wonder if he can control Vision?
I bet he can. Vision made from adamantium.
And Magneto now can destroy NY while chilling in the Egypt.
>Adamantium bones
>preventing Cap cutting off sniktbubs head
Remember kids, you skeletal system isn't one solid piece of bone
>>70124344
It's got hinges.
>>70124340
Vision is made from Vibranium. Not Adamantium. Also has the Mind Stone.
>Jean kills Vision and Scarlet Witch
>Wolverine and Colossus kill Hulk
>Quicksilver kills everyone else
>>70124382
Nah, They just pumped him of of adamntium cum and called it a success
>>70124453
>Colossus and Wolverine
>taking on Hulk
Any incarnation of those two could never beat any incarnation of Hulk. Hell the weaker Ultimate Hulk ripped Ultimate Bub in half
>>70124453
>Jean kills Vision and Scarlet Witch
Don't make me laugh.
>Wolverine and Colossus kill Hulk
Take your /co/ shit and leave, MCU Hulk would punt both of them into the next timezone.
>Quicksilver kills everyone else
I dunno, do the Avengers get Quickslav back?
>>70124604
>Take your /co/ shit and leave
>implying /co/ would ever agree that colossus and wolverine could kill hulk
>>70124554
Wolverine has defeated, even killed Hulk. Worldbreaker Hulk stated that if he wasn't high on gamma radiation at the time, Colossus could have beat him. Avengers Hulk lost to Iron Man. He's fucking toast.
>>70124604
>Don't make me laugh.
He meant Phoenix kills all avengers in one swoop.
>>70124554
Hulk is probably the most stupid superhero I've ever seen (non-American here, discovered him in my teens, actually read his profile in 20's)
>be a guy
>get radiation
>suddenly immortal
>fueled by rage (!)
>when totally enraged, he could take on gods
I mean what the fuck
>>70124668
>read his profile
Fuck off casual millenial scum.
>>70124659
Xavier could deal with most of them, leave the big green guy to Jean Grey.
>>70124604
Quickslav was nowhere near as fast as the X-Men version.
X-Men Quicksilver is borderline broken in a straight fight though.
>>70124646
>old man logan
Yeah when hulk lost cause he had non regen and was a weak incarnation of Hulk.
Wolverine gets his ass handed to him by Spidey on multiple occasions
>>70124706
>Quickslav was nowhere near as fast as the X-Men version.
This. Died from bullet wounds, what, how?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fkiZoiJN7I
>>70124695
I think Scarlet Witch can resist him.
>>70124706
>borderline
No, he's definitely broken. In the scene where he breaks Magneto out he moves so fast that he could take on the Avengers and the X-men on his own, because everyone would be still as statues while he kicked their asses, except for the other Quicksilver, who would be moving in slow-motion.
>>70124659
And then she kills the X-Men?
>>70124706
Time never stops in Quicksilver's scenes.
Quickslav is only shown going his fastest in combat during the end fight, but it's hinted at how fucking fast he is when he takes the gun from Klaw, empties it, and lays out all the bullets on end in a row in the blink of an eye. That shit is fast. Plus he shatters Ultron drones, which aren't the strongest but he literally shatters them with one hit. That kind of force requires speed.
>>70124747
You missed the entire point of him dying from bullet wounds. Even Fox's Quicksilver wouldn't be able to save someone that had bullets right in front of their face. Quickslav, even with insane speed, had to push them out of the way because the bullets were right there. The speedster got shot, getting shot makes the sacrifice all the noble because he's a speedster so you know it had to be this extremely deliberate choice on his part.
5 mins prep dr.strange could solo both teams
>>70124946
>Even Fox's Quicksilver wouldn't be able to save someone that had bullets right in front of their face.
Except he can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NnyVc8r2SM
Also, in his perspective he can't be hurt by slow bullets.
>>70124946
>Even Fox's Quicksilver wouldn't be able to save someone that had bullets right in front of their face.
>when that's exactly what he did in the first movie he was in, after he spent too much time faffing about
>>70125055
>>70125107
You cunts really missed the point, so maybe I didn't explain it clearly enough.
In that scene in DotF, the guns go off and Quicksilver speeds up. Lots of time.
In AoU, Quicksilver shows up right as Hawkeye and kid are about to be shot. As in the bullets are too close to them to save them.
And it's not like Fox's version has some magic bullet proof power than Quickslav doesn't, being in front of a bullet and moving it from the side are very different things.
Fox just dresses it up as Quicksilver being 'cooler' about his power, that doesn't make him faster.
>>70125055
>>70125290
Not to mention gattling gun aircraft bullets are bigger and faster than glass handgun bullets.
>>70125290
>>70125308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORCKfVZ6ekw
I can't even tell what is happening in this scene.
He moved them, he moved the car or something else?
I think Quickslav just retarded.
>>70125290
But foxsilver turns around and notices that his muggas have bulletsRIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR FACES, and then speeds up even more to get over there and pushes the bullets out of the way.
If mcquicksilver was as fast as foxsilver he'd have just flicked the bullet out of the way with his fingers instead of taking the hit.
>>70125290
>>70125308
Except it doesn't matter as we see that AoU Quicksilveer can move at maybe Mach 5 while SWEET MEMES moves at Mach 500 easily
He literally would be fast enough to move them and himself out of the way
>>70125422
>I think Quickslav just retarded.
This. Nobody else would use supserspeed to move a car without also protecting themselves with said car.
But really it's just the fault of the writer. It's not like that shitty car would have stopped those bullets anyway.
Quickslav definitely slower.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96oorkBuIjk
You can see him in speed mode.
Thor hammer flying faster than bullets in Fox movies.
But in other scene bullet flying a bit slower, but still faster than in Fox (inconsistency).
And in the next scene somebody easily shot Quickslav hand.
Just shitty writing I'm presume.
>>70125665
Also, Quickslav can enter speed mode for only short period of time, while Quicksilver can be in it for long.
>>70125422
>>70125606
He pushed them, not the car. Saying that's hard to follow is just being stupid.
>>70125436
While AoU's bullets are probably going twice as fast (sources below), the fact that Quicksilver has speedups during the slowdown frame of reference pretty much seals it.
Okay Quicksilver is faster than Quickslav. And therefore Quicksilver can probably solo the Avengers since they don't have anything like whatever the fuck Apocalypse did to stop him. Give it one more movie and the Avengers might have a Time Stone wielding Sorcerer Supreme, but short of that X-Men Quicksilver would rek them all.
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/X-Men:_Days_of_Future_Past#Colt_Python
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/357mag.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-19
>>70126635
>He pushed them
>that's hard to follow is just being stupid.
Pushed two people at high speed. They are still 1 meter away and standing in the same pose. Yes, it is actually hard to follow, it seems newton laws doesn't work in marvel universe.
>>70126812
>it seems newton laws doesn't work in marvel universe.
>tony flying with whatever the fuck repulsors are
>cap's shield
>quicksilver in general
Yeah no shit. Don't get me started on Ant-Man or Hulk.
You see them standing in the open, Hawkeye and kid. Bullets coming towards them, you know the danger. Then Quicksilver runs, then is riddled with bullet holes. His arms are outstretched and Hawkeye is safe with the kid behind cover, clearly pushed by Quicksilver.
The complaint you're making about them only being 1 meter away has nothing to do with it being hard to follow, you're just assuming he came in and shoved them as hard as he could. Just because he's moving at super speed to get there doesn't mean he has to move them with his top strength, he's got brakes just as magic as his speed. The entire scene falls apart for you because you're dumb.
Movie wise Quicksilver and Magneto could btfo entire MCU in seconds.
MCU hulk is pretty weak.
>>70123537
Well pretty much all the X-Men got nerfed for the movies. Imagine them all with comic book tier abilities. The Avengers wouldn't stand a chance. Granted, we are talking film. That being said, Avengers probably have this one.
>>70118172
Wrong you sperm receptacle. Rogue easily beats the Avengers by herself.
>>70129121
>all xmen nerfed for movies
>quicksilver
>magneto
>prof X
>mystique(even more powerful then comics)
>deadpool
>jean grey
only one who is nerfed is cylocps
>>70123818
He wasn't an avenger in that, he was a villain at first.
