itt films liberals/conservatives will never understand
>>70117437
I'd say this movie has both sides to it. The whole point to Edward Norton (Danny?) was that he got over all that racist shit
>>70117503
It's not "both sides". Norton's racist rhetoric is portrayed as appalling and juvenile. American History X is utterly a left-wing movie but /pol/ isn't really intelligent enough to understand the message.
>>70117503
film endings gay. real ending is him going back to the skinheads
>>70117496
>Angry Birds Movie
>>70117496
Why Brazil?
Team America
Some liberal websites couldn't comprehend that nonliberal satire exists and praised it as a paragon of leftist values when it came out. They apparently missed the whole FAG portion of the plot (or just assumed it was a Hollywood circlejerk poking fun at themselves) and the big speech at the end.
what about the part that he gets BLACKED
>>70117558
The final film was Ed Norton's rewrite and was utter shit.
So shit, in fact, that the writer director divorced himself entirely from the abortion that was released.
>>70117437
has there have been a movie whose message/intent backfired as much or more then American History X has?
>>70117722
Taxi Driver almost got Reagan killed
also nice triple dubs
>>70117530
>separation
>leftist
>no do the right thing
>>70117722
What was the original intent?
>>70117496
>brazil
>conservativecore
>>70117779
The entire film was rewritten by Ed Norton because he believed it to be "pro-Nazi".
The only piece of the original script that has escaped into the light of day is that in the end, after Danny is murdered, Derek is seen standing in front of a mirror in the bathroom shaving his head signaling his return to his neo-Nazi beliefs.
>>70117530
Crash is redpilled
>>70117663
He actually got his asshole BLEACHED, the niggers left him alone because he made a nice Uncle Tom friend
>>70117708
Didn't the original end with him shaving his head?
>>70118156
See >>70117935
Yes.
>>70117722
Starship Troopers, Verhoeven intended it to be a parody to fascist regimes but somehow made them look more favourable.
>>70118277
I know Heinlein is laughing his ass off in Valhalla at this one.
>>70118277
Wasn't it a similar deal with Robocop?
>>70117558
>left wing movie
>kid saw that every race is similar enough to co-exist
>even after that the niggers are still just niggers and kill him
Are you stupid? It has both sides to it, but in the end it was still niggers are niggers and no one can do a goddamn thing about it.
>>70118321
One word. Chiasmus.
https://dejareviewer.com/2014/04/29/cinematic-chiasmus-robocop-is-almost-perfectly-symmetrical-film/?dollar
>Be white and tall and muscular
>Shave head cause balding
>Grow beard cause like beard
>Doing volunteer work for the homeless
>Asian girl working with me
>"You look like a skinhead, like russel crowe"
>"Thanks I go head stomping after i'm done here"
>"teeheehee"
she wanted the dick but i dont shit where i eat
>>70117530
How is White House down left or right wing? From what I remember it didn't try and push a message, it was just terrorists blowing he White House the fuck up. Olympus/London has fallen on the other hand were definitely right wing.
>>70117722
Not a movie but, a person.
>Be a Jewish entertainer who admires black entertainment
>Do what you believe is the best you can do to help pave the way for blacks to get into the movies
>Decades later and even to this very day you are now seen as the poster child of old Hollywood's racism
>>70117935
The director was going for the whole "A Clockwork Orange" vibe.
>>70119048
But that doesn't work for this movie. In CO they were hurting innocent people constantly, in AHX the only thing that they did to innocent people was harass them and vandalize their shit. Alex deserved what he got. The kid in AHX didn't deserve to die, at the very most he deserved an ass whooping, but the fact that the niggers were still chimping out at the end proves he was right the whole time and niggers are gonna nig no matter how you act.
>>70117558
No, the edit came out more that way, but the original was attempting to show that niggers are just as bad as stormniggers
>>70119207
See
>>70119167
>>70118380
Even the edit did that, plebs and liberals like to spin everything to fit their beliefs though.
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>>70118277
One of the main pillars of Fascism is aesthetics and displays of power
I say It'd be pretty hard to make an 'ideal' fascist society that isn't attractive, at least on a superficial level
Why do you think the Nazis were so alluring?
>>70117608
>>70117783
>amerifats literally think any kind of leftist government is a totalitarian one
>>70118988
This. Why can RDJ get away with it but he can't? Especially when he lived in a time where racism was the norm.
>>70117530
What does Edward Snowden have to do with Leftism? Don't tell me you're only conservative for the SICK MEMES? Ah, of course you are.
>>70120160
Going against the big bad government and telling the people that they're spying on people, which has been known for years.
>>70117530
>American history
>left wing
What, the neo nazi did nothing wrong?
>>70121297
How is that leftist or wrong you maniac
>>70121663
It's not wrong but I can see how liberals would interpret it as leftist because it's going against "the right wing" government.
>>70121698
How the fuck is government surveillance anything but leftist?
don't challenge my notions, bro
>>70121998
Because conservatives believe in doing what you have to for national security and keeping the country safe. Are there a significant amount of people that believe in their privacy over everything? Yes, and rightfully so, but that doesn't change the fact that more conservatives than liberals would be ok with it because there's not a single liberal in existence that doesn't step over the line with
>much rights
When it comes to any authority figure. The fact that any time they talk to a cop they won't listen to a fucking thing they tell them to do is a perfect example of that.
>>70118491
>don't shit where I eat
>volunteer
makes no fucking sense
>>70122208
The fuck are you talking about? Sovereign citizens are right wing to the extreme. How is supporting Obama/NSA conservative? Do you have a fucking clue what you're talking about? Are you an Australian fucking with me?
What's so hard to understand about American History X?
The whole point of the movie was that violence is a terrible thing and even if you have the best intentions, things backfire. Also the fact that a circle of violence cannot be broken easily.
>>70117437
He's a nazi
He gets raped
It's just like real life, there's no agenda
The nazis got raped
The kid brothers of the nazis were killed
The mother gets KIKEd and he's the only sane character in the film
It's just a reselling of World War Two with niggers instead of Russians and a little brother instead of a pure German virgin farm girl
>>70122339
>Obama is the one that made the NSA start spying on people
How fucking retarded are you? The government has been spying on it's citizens for decades, and have definitely been tapping cell phones since bush was in office. Just because Obama is in office doesn't mean that doing that is a left wing thing. That's like saying that the NRA is left wing because Obama is our president.
>>70122342
The point was that no matter what you do niggers will always be niggers, and there isn't a thing in the world anybody can do about it. Even after they renounced that way of life, the nigger was still a nigger and couldn't be anything else.
>>70122477
It's not the nigger's fault he's a nigger. It's our fault for expecting him to be exactly like a white man and then getting mad and confused and blaming him when that doesn't happen. Imagine if your parents got mad at you because you couldn't fly.
Niggers are fine if you know what they are. Respect diversity.
>>70122477
The NRA isn't a government organization you dipshit. Every American knows that. You Australian or what? And who's presidency did the NSA get exposed under? Who's expanded the government's iron grip? Obama. Why doesn't Obama pardon whistleblowers like he fucking promised?
>>70122514
Yes it is. Being a nigger is a choice, being black is not. There is a huge difference. The people Derek killed were niggers, the principal and the dude he met in jail were black. It's all about the way they act, and once you're a nigger you're always a nigger, they can't stop being one.
>>70122605
no, not a choice. The principal was a nigger trying to thrust his nigger ideology into everything. The laundry nigger was a criminal in prison -- you can't be more of a nigger than that!
You're born a nigger, it has nothing to do with how you act.
It's like that old joke. "What do you call a black pilot?"
Nigger.
>>70119433
>assume it's made by an American
>get triggered at the fact all lefties are totalitarian
>mfw opened my company over the course of two days in the free land I live in now
>mfw one had been made illegal and the other crushed in regulations by leftards
>mfw I don't have to meet muslims on a daily basis anymore
Not all authoritarians are leftists but all leftists are authoritarian. I've fled from the infamous democratic socialism and that was the single best decision of my life. But I guess we are über totalitarian because we don't know the blessings of fag marriage.
>>70119167
>Thinking you need to act differently just so that others will act differently toward you
For me, especially as it pertained to the last quote of the film, it was more about how we are all capable of extreme hatred, but we need to seek the better angels of our nature and rise above that no matter how we are treated because ultimately such hatred does nothing to make anything better.
>>70122772
I thought it was about how hot prison rape is.
>>70122796
I got the impression that people assumed it was liberals pushing the "black people are people too!" thing when it is so much more than that. The ending therefore doesn't take away from but further engrains the point.
>>70122682
Go back to /pol/ you don't have to be a genuine racist to be redpilled and realize facts, you do have to be a retard and a piece of shit to think someone is a terrible person because of the color of their skin. Yes, more of them than not are like that, but not every black person is a nigger.
>>70117437
The racists in the movie not only did nothing wrong but were right about everything.
Even after meddling with the script to make it anti-racist Norton and co were unable to give a credible answer to the characters so they just try to discredit him by showing that he becomes hateful, as if that proves him wrong.
>yeah maybe you are right about niggers but it triggers the big bad forbidden emotions so you're wrong
Pic somewhat related.
My pleb friends like American History X solely because of the cubstomp.
They find it cool when a whitey kills a black man.
Hilarious. They idolize Derek because of that.
>>70123098
>being friends with plebs
Get better friends before you become a pleb yourself. Oh, wait. I think it might be too late for that.
>>70123008
I think you're reading into the movie wrong.
>>70123155
At least he has friends unlike you.
>>70122072
underrated
>Watch AHX with a girl
>She finds Derek attractive
>Doesn't agree with racist views yet she likes Derek for having strong beliefs.
Ayy
>>70123183
I do have friends just a very small circle that isn't full of plebeians. I would honestly rather not hang out with people than hang out with plebs. I've quit hanging out with multiple people because of their taste in music, tv, movies. Yes people can have different tastes, but no it is absolutely not acceptable to listen to lil Wayne or any of the niggers that associate with him, it's not acceptable to watch nothing but capeshit, it's not even remotely acceptable to watch cam copies, especially when you imvite me over to watch a movie and put one on. I have quit talking to multiple people because of these things.
itt: liberals and conservatives still don't understand American history X thereby proving OP's point, ergo making him less of faggot
>>70123310
I think you might be autistic. Get out more.
>>70123336
So you're saying that all of those things are ok? You are the epitome of a pleb.
>>70123374
Yep, you're definitely autistic.
>>70123396
>he says while watching a cam copy of capeshit while his pleb friend plays Lil Wayne over it
The only way someone would thing any of those things are ok are if they do it themselves. Especially inviting someone over to watch a movie then putting on a shitty cam of it. I drove twenty minutes to get there and that mother fucker put on a cam of some shitty movie, I don't even remember what it was I left as soon as I saw that was what he invited me over for and never talked to him again.
>>70122706
>free land
Which certainly isn't freedom land.
>>70123477
>breaking off relationships with a friend because of a cam of a movie
You're only proving my point, autist. There's more to life than taste in media.
>>70122706
>free land
Which probably isn't Freedom Land.
>>70123527
>breaking off relationships with a friend when he makes me spend 10 dollars in gas to watch a fucking cam of a movie when I could have paid less than that to see it in theaters while expecting me to smoke my weed with him
I'm not seeing the problem here. I think you are just a pleb and that's why you willfully hang around other plebs.
Conan the Barbarian.
Some of my friends and women never really get this movie's deep meaning.
It's about being a man and shows revenge in a positive outlook which we don't see much in movies.
>>70123600
Well, it's your own fault for not having enough gas to get there. You've been desensitized by going on /tv/ too much, man. You're definitely an autistic person, you should seek help, really.
>>70123638
I had enough gas to get there, how do you think I got there? Just because I had the gas already doesn't change the fact that it's still about 10$ worth of gas to get there and back, just to get there to this fuckhead trying to have me watch a shitty cam copy with him. That's even worse than looking up "watch (insert movie) full movie online" when you want to watch something.
>>70123693
You're a lost cause, man. I would feel sorry for you, but you deserve to be lonely.
>>70123716
So are you telling me that if you have a friend that lives halfway across the county that invites you over to "watch a badass new movie", then you get there and he wants you to smoke your weed with him then puts on a fucking cam of a movie you're just gonna sit there and watch it like he didn't just waste your money and time? And someone that wastes your time and money isn't someone worth keeping around.
>>70117496
>1984
>conservative
How?
>>70123784
Such a shame. You're so naive.
In the words of a great poet, you must always write with a pen. To think that the engineers of the bell towers, all the Chinese cobblers, followers of Falstaff all have to look upon the sullen and depressive ways of the godless harpies that parade our world in their weary ways. We should unite against our fallen brother, live in peace, not hate. You are not cattle, you are human. Nature will root thyself upon your hearts' merry content and we'll find a way to say, "Banish plump Jack and banish all the world".
When we think that our days are numbered, let us think about our lives and how much wonder we've spread to others. When we look towards the seas and think of Cthulhu, we listen to the wails and pains, we shouldn't do that...
When we are saddened, it is our duty to make right. Falstaff would not want us sullen, he brought wisdom to his peers and that of the youth. He was the Plato of that Republic.
When we look at the seasons through their unravished ways. Their silence, their peace. The Spring gives us hope, the Summer lets us be free, Autumn lets us reflect, Winter lets us rest.
Our seas are sapphires, the greens of our planet are emeralds, our mountaintops glisten like the diamonds of old...
If you could truly see how much you are loved, by at least someone, how much joy you can bring to one person's life... then you'd never raise a hand in rage again...
Come, friends. We only live once, let us not waste the most precious gift we have.
>>70117496
list should be renamed: movies conservatives are too dumb to realize are satirical/critical of their views.
