Why are they so perfect?
>>70079876
No black in the cast+ pure blonde shieldmaiden.
>>70079876
>Gimli only on one poster
>Legolas and Liv Tyler have two
That's some serious bullshit
>>70079876
yeah. I watch them at least once a year. It's glorious.
>years of careful preparation
>GOAT cast
>filmed all at once
>combination of high quality practical special effects and cutting edge digital ones
>GOAT score
>years of careful editing
>no token niggers or stupid shit like that
>>70079956
Liv is on every poster though
>>70080088
Legolas isn't though nice dub
>>70079876
Peter Jackson sold his soul to Satan, probably.
>>70079956
Gimli's on two posters m8.
>>70079876
They're not
Fellowship is perfect, but the others have problems.
>>70079956
>boromir only on one poseter
da fuck ????
>>70079876
King Elessar vs Morgoth-worshipping cannibal cult when?
>>70079876
Do we have to have this same thread every single fucking day? It seems like the moment one thread dies, another magically pops up to replace it. We should just have an eternal LOTR thread.
>>70079876
>Merry and Pippin literally responsible for destroying Saruman and Urukhai HQ
>Only on one poster
The more I look at this the more it pisses me off
>>70080237
*ROTK has problems
Two Towers is also perfect, albeit in a different way to Fellowship.
>>70079956
Gimli's on two posters as well moron.
>>70080276
Let's not forget who it was that stabbed the Witch King with a blade designed to harm spirits.
>>70080060
this
it was a labour of love and it shows
>>70080271
Are you confusing it with GoT you retard? There aren't that many LotR threads to merit bitching about.
>>70080279
>you and what army
>this army
I love the movie for so many hours, and then it goes and makes me groan
>The entire Shire opening in Fellowship
GOAT
>>70080323
Not him but there were two threads yesterday.
>>70080060
It actually came out at the perfect time. Techniques and CGI were so far advanced that the story could be done justice and it came before the mass cucking of the media set in
>>70080271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKIgv8AhffA
>>70079876
So besides Gandalf showing up every so often to ruin everyones life in the shire, what's his actual role?
he's got no real powers to speak of, fucks off regularly so can't really be considered a great leader. he's deus ex machina once or twice, doesn't really have a major role in the film though, he's kind of just around when things happen
>>70079876
Because a director took a classic book and put love and care into the movie. I think the timing of the movie had something to do with it.
>>70080417
>he's kind of just around when things happen
Precisely. He's forbidden from directly confronting Sauron. Except in the Hobbit movies where for some reason. The whole point of the wizards was to guide the mortals so they could help themselves.
>>70079876
This time in history.
An excellent story, and the technology to bring it to life.
What if The Hobbit was just proof that Peter Jackson lost his touch and that he just lost his touch
>>70080480
wanna try that again slick?
There will never be anything as good as LotR.
>Perfect story
>Perfect cast
>Perfect soundtrack
>Perfect design & cosmetics
>Perfect editing
>>70080480
I don't think that's fair. This was made under different circumstances. He filled in for Del Toro and it felt like a lot of decisions were probably made by the studio. Cheap/quick/shitty cgi, bringing back Legolas and adding a love triangle, inserting diversity - those don't sound like director choices. It sounds like producers coming in and saying "we want more female and black viewers. Also, what the fuck is editing? Just get it done."
>>70080480
Peter Jackson put more time into the post production of FOTR than he did making the entire hobbit trilogy
>>70080296
I don't care Gimli's a cuck anyway
>>70080555
Trips of somber truth. It's kind of sad knowing we'll die before such greatness is made again
>>70080341
>being so neet that you can actually remember the amount of threads pertaining to a topic on a given day
>>70080681
I was in both. I regret nothing.
>>70079876
Reminder that just 15 years ago we had a movie trilogy with all white male leads and no one gave a shit
It's terryfying how much the society has changed in so little time
>>70080733
It's not that no one gave a shit, it's that the people who did were waived off.
I do remember LotR being called racist because all the black guys were evil. But it was just on internet forums and no one gave a fuck
I actually finished watching this trilogy for the first time yesterday.
It was solid, even the CG mostly holds up.
>>70080789
>cave troll
Uh, no thanks
>>70079876
Not really even though it's my favourite trilogy of all time. Nearly all changes they made to the source material kinda triggers me a bit. Biggest one is probably the witch king shattering Gandalfs staff like ???
>>70080417
It's such fucking bullshit that gGndalf got resurrected in the second movie. It's such an asspull, Jackson was obviously doing it for merchandising. It's basically just a recolour., they didn't even have to make new action figures, just use a different paint.
>>70080765
This. But then again Marvel has how many films with white male leads and nothing with women and blacks until Black Panther. I'm impressed that nobody calls Marvel out on the black guys just being the little buddies
>>70080836
Still looks better than anything in Civil War
>>70080417
>he's deus ex machina once or twice
Like?
>>70080448
>The whole point of the wizards was to guide the mortals so they could help themselves.
This.
>>70080866
What a benchmarkno it's not
>>70080911
>Like?
"Lol Theodon's ok now guys"
"Lol don't worry about Helms Deep I gotchu"
>>70081162
You don't know what deus ex machina means.
>>70081366
"an unexpected power or event saving a seemingly hopeless situation, especially as a contrived plot device in a play or novel."
>>70080439
Reminds me one time someone was talking about how much better the Harry Potter movies would/would've been if they were done in a similar situation rather then just at the same time as the books to ride the hype.
(Not that I think they're bad but they certainly don't have anywhere near as much love in them as LotR clearly does)
>>70080560
Real fucking shame imo, The Hobbit could've been really great
>>70080836
whats wrong with the cave troll?
>>70081454
what you describe is the ghost army, not gandalf.
>>70080060
Don't forget it was given free reign from the producers and production company so no kike bullshit could change it
>>70081454
Watch the movies again and pay attention this time.
>>70081641
no, i described my two events.
Helms Deep was definitely hopeless, Theodon might be a stretch but you could argue that was a hopeless situation until suddenly Gandalf goes
>DUDE WHITE WIZARD LMAO
I love the movies but that's what happened
>>70080337
ya know other than that one part, I can't think of anything else that bothers me...
>>70079876
They aren't, you fell for the meme.
>>70081703
>gandalf specifically states he rides to get reinforcements
>reinforcements show up
are you retarded? that's not a deus ex machina. the ghost army is the deus ex machina because they were invincible and outright slaughtered every single orc there when defeat was inevitable.
gandalf being practical is not an asspull you fucking moron.
Theatrical > extended trash
>>70081756
give reasons please
>>70081781
watch them and you'll see
>>70081715
The bit with Legolas and Gimli counting Orc kills and surfing oliphaunt trunks was pretty cringeworthy as well.
The scenes of Osgiliath and Faramir's death almost make up for the campy nonsense of the Minas Tirith battle, but not quite.
>>70081751
You have to admit the timing was.
>>70081756
>>70081805
You're objectively wrong.
Reminder that these majestic films came out on vhs back in the day.
>>70081751
He didn't say he was going to get reinforcements, he was like "dw, i'll be back you guys chill"
If it was expected that he was going to come back there would have been no tension and the movie would have sucked.
>>70081834
dramatic entrances =/= deus ex machina
and you're retarded for thinking so.
>>70081850
nah. you just have poor judgement and taste.
all further opinions discarded
>>70081864
he says he's going to enlist the aid of the riders of rohan, who weren't too far off away from helm's deep. so, yes he did in fact state it.
>>70081854
Two Towers was my first ever DVD
>>70081906
said he was going to try. they had reason to not come back at all.
>>70081876
the timing made it so.
its not hard to understand, moron
>>70081854
I love my vhs
>>70081864
I think they even state at some point that they can't win enough time for or rely on gandalf to come
>>70081817
On the other hand, Ride of the Rohirrim
>>70081933
you clearly don't understand the term, so i don't even know why i'm bothering.
1. The Fellowship of the Ring
2. The Return of the King
3. The Two Towers
This is objectively the correct ranking of the movies.
>>70081990
One of my favorite scenes in all the trilogy. But one thing that always made me stratch my head was that when the Rohirim charged the orcs at Minas Tirith, Theodon made a reasonable strategy, but then the Mumankils shows up and his best idea is just to charge those too... Would it have been smarter just to kite them around an harass them with spears and arrows? I mean that is how they end up defeating them anyway in the movie...
>>70082015
>gets told
>backs down
thought so
Wonder how long until they remake it & i wonder who they will make Black
>>70082042
What is it about Two Towers that made it worse than RoTK?
I will agree that Fellowship is my favorite, but that might mainly because the plot is the most unique of the three. Towers and RoTK are rather similar in structure I'd say.
>>70082115
My bet is that if the had to cast anyone black, it would be Gandalf and Aragorn.
>>70080339
Those pics are amazing.
>>70082120
The battle of Helm's Deep was too long and repetitive.
>>70080733
I do remember some lame petition to get the Two Towers renamed because of 9/11
On something a bit different, met some of the cast members and they're lovely people.
Billy Boyd is also hilarious
>>70082188
I'll agree to that, but the in my opinion the Uruk-hai make up for it, because I really love the design of their arms and armor.
Source material.
A better set of movies could me made though, probably wont happen in my lifetime.
>>70079876
Came out at a perfect time.
>CGI was good enough to actually do all the massive battles
>social media wasnt everywhere like today
of course they had an amazing cast and jackson actually gave a fuck back then, but you couldnt make the same movies in todays world
>>70082104
no because it's going to devolve into you repeating the same shit and eventually playing the "lol i was only pretending to be retarded" card.
no amount of convincing will get you to realize you're wrong. you simply do not understand what the literary term deus ex machina actually is.
>>70082042
This seems to be the consensus on /tv/ but I've always liked TTT the best, followed by Fellowship and rank ROTK last, though obviously still very highly.
>>70082267
>gets told
>backs down
>"o-oh wait! i-i must project my insecurities on to you"
lol
stay btfo
>>70081834
UHM ACKSHUALLY
The timing was practical too; at first light the sun crests the hill and the uruks, who loathe sunlight, cover their eyes, which are drawn to the reinforcements showing up. That way the rohirrim don't get shrekt by charging into a spear line.
>>70082274
Me too. Wanna fuck?
>Read the Lotr trilogy
>it's bretty gud
>movies are 10/10
>Read the Hobbit
>it's fucking fantastic
>movies are an abomination
why
>>70082332
Baisically no pre-production time because fucking warner bros
>>70082267
dont even bother with that chump. in the movie gandalf speaks of getting eomer and the horsemen he is with. then he SPECIFICALLY SAYS "look for me on the dawn of the third day."
this isnt some deus bullshit. gandalf knows eomer, knows where he is, knows why is where he is, and knows an approximate window of time in which to gather those horsemen and return to helm's deep.
this is what the guy is saying is deus ex machina.
if that is the case, me telling my boss that i will meet him in the break room for a meeting is also deus ex machina.
I was trying to explain to my friend why Fellowship is the best of the trilogy, but he said, "it was the most boringist one"
Help me out here
>>70082387
Get new friends
>>70079956
>Liv one of the four most prominent on the TTT poster
>Barely had any scenes in the movie
This always triggered me.
>>70082387
Comfiest
Best drama
Best action sequence out of all movies (The Mines of Moria, culminating with that amazing balrog)
The ending is great with tons of good shit, the breaking of the fellowship, boromirs death, etc
Does your friend have ADD? Sure it's the first one and it has to set everything up but it has enough tense moments to not get boring
>>70082406
Something is really funny to me about the image of a guy walking up to his friend and curtly saying "Sorry, but 4chan said I shouldn't talk to you anymore."
>>70082387
He probly has brain damage and skips through everything except the battle scenes
Tell him hes a faggot
>Fly you fools!
What did he mean by this?
>>70082332
because unlike lotr it wasn´t made because the people behind it wanted to tell a story they loved and cared about, it was made to earn as much money as possible by milking the franchise and referencing things from lotr
also cutting preproduction and fill everything with bad looking cgi
>>70079956
Liv Tyler is only in the posters to trick girls into thinking that the movies aren't huge sausagefests
>>70082412
Just be glad that they decided not to be retarded and cut her being at Helm's Deep
>>70079876
They're not. Fellowship was the only really good one that is comparative to the books. I'd really just would've preferred to only have the books.
>>70082440
thanks, I knew it wasn't just me that thought fellowship was the shit. It's just been a while since i've seen it and got a few events mixed up with two towers
>>70082451
yeah, he did mention the battle scenes in the second one. he's definitely a pleb
>>70082387
Just kill this faggot, he has shit taste
>>70082454
It was old timely phrase for "get the fuck outta here you retards I'm dying to buy you some time and you're all just standing around like downies"
1. Fellowship
2. rotk
3. ttt
Fellowship is easily the best one. Two towers was all about the spectacle. 3 was kinda the same but it gave a great ending to the story and has some of the best moments in the trilogy.
>>70082412
> No Faramir on any of them but Arwen on all
RIP Wenham
>>70081703
You forgot all the Rohirrim. He left to get them
>>70082042
No it isn't, RotK was complete shit
>>70082454
He meant that they should fly the eagles to Mordor. The fools didn't listen.
>>70082332
>>70079902
Do maori count as blacks? Lurtz was pretty GOAT
>>70079876
I tried to watch fellowship again recently ad couldn't get halfway through it. Corny one-liners and bad effects work.
Disappointing.
>>70082904
What's the truth behind the knife deflecting scene? I've heard a few versions, most common are the knife was supposed to miss but the actor accidently threw it towards Viggo because his vision was impaired in full Lurtz make up and Viggo deflected it like a badass, and the other is the stunt guy kept fucking up the scene and Viggo asked to try it and got it first go.
>>70080448
>He's forbidden from directly confronting Sauron.
He didn't directly confront Sauron. He was investigating a Necromancer that he learned was actually Sauron only once he was neck deep in shit creek with his mouth wide open
>>70081703
He literally tells them to look to the east at first light, then turns up exactly when he said he would with the Rohirrim, who are already established.
Theoden I guess is allowed cause he's effectively confronting Saruman, another wizard
>>70083113
Only heard the vision impaired story.. prefer it aswell
>>70082352
exactly, but aforementioned retard doesn't understand what the term truly means.
Why is Fellowship the best?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9skYkQfAwus
;______;
>>70079876
literally stop watching shit already and watch some films, this board is pure cancer
>>70083305
FOTR is pure kino, you fuck.
Because everyone involved gave it their best, it was not the work of a director but a collective of actors, designers, extras and a bloody country.
The Hobbit movies are bad because its 100% Peter Jackson.
>>70083144
they're both white wizards, so it's not surprising they have similar magical abilities. hence, why gandalf the white power was able to undo saruman's black metal hold.
10 years + preparation is the answer
>>70083361
I thought is was boring.
>>70083379
and Peter Jackson didn't even want to do the Hobbit
>>70082904
No, 'black' refers to sub-saharan african negroes. Not just anybody with dark skin.
>>70080624
I'm quietly anticipating a Lovecraft inspired trilogy being the next passion filled project that turns out great
Even the commentary tracks are good. I've watched each with the actor commentary twice.
>>70084973
I got Lovecraft vibes from King Kong (except for the NY scenes).
You could literally replace Kong and all the other creatures with eldritch beasts/gods, and replace the caveman tribe with an eldritch cult tribe.
>>70083379
You do realize Jackson was essentially left out to dry when Guillermo Del Toro decided to bail? he had to salvage a half baked plot and at the same time frame MGM were going bankrupt and told him to get it done as quick as can, and to try and make a commercialized money making monster that appealed to all audiences, what we got was shoe horned romances, almost everything cgi and sequel characters popping up every ten minutes. He has even said he isn't happy with the films he made. Leave Petey boy alone
>>70085113
>bu-bu-but its del tacos fault!
>bu-bu-but its mgms fault!
>muh jackson can do no wrong
how to spot a fanboy
>>70080339
Fellowship is general is just GOAT, its a true fantasy adventure film where as the other 2 are fantasy war epics.
Also this thread reminds me I haven't rewatched the LOTR trilogy yet this year.
>>70085303
Jackson did plenty wrong, but to blame him exclusively is just being an ignorant retard.
Jackson was given no time to basically put togeather a coherent trilogy from scratch and was then told "haha no its gonna be 3 movies now" and that really fucking shows with BOTFA.
>>70083379
The Hobbit actually had the same production designers, conceptual artists, editor, composer, writers and even some of the same actors as Lotr did
>>70085484
>Jackson did plenty wrong
go on... i'll wait
>>70085568
It could have been good if they didnt shoehorn in legolas and all the forced romance. Also it shouldve been 2 movies at the very fucking most
>>70079876
No niggers.
>>70082669
>>70080733
Jews aren't white.
Why did del Taco abandon the hobbit?
>>70079876
What's with the sudden spike in LoTR threads? Not that I'm complaining I love these movies.
>>70085303
>fanboy
>>>/v/
>>70082192
lmao what?
>>70085594
>20 minutes later still no reply
>>70085484
fanboy
>>70085827
Wait, they film every individual character alone before putting them together? That's fucking sad, in comparison to LoTR's practical effects. I feel for Ian.
>>70086038
the hobbit was a shitshow because it was rushed and the kikes funding it wanted to make 3 movies out of it when just one would do
Fuck off back to /v/
>>70086280
still waiting on that answer famalam >>70085594
>three hobbit movies
>no silmarillion
I guess I should be thankful it wasn't turned into the studio shitbox that the hobbit movies were though. Also they'd have to get a new saruman, so maybe it's not a bad thing it will never be made into a movie.
>>70080339
These are some nice posters.
>>70086274
Well, in that case only with Gandalf since he is considerably larger than hobbits and dwarves
>>70081854
This was my childhood
>>70086494
As awesome as a silmarillion movie would be I'm glad they haven't made one. The showdown between fingolfin and morgoth would be epic though.
>>70079876
The acting is really good. Specifically Viggo Mortensen is a really good actor.
>>70081715
Cgi orks getting bowled down at helms deep
Also pre battle speeches. Like every speech is like
>my men, the battle is hard but we is not gonna lose today
>>70082904
Maoris are better but than "african-americans"
>>70081924
>they had reason to not come back at all.
Apart from saving the life of their king and the citizens of Rohan?
>>70082192
>tfw The Return Of The King isn't about Elvis
>>70082115
They will never remake this. It's too good. People won't go to see it because they've already seen the best possible version of the story.
>>70082115
Not soon, Christopher still holds the rights and even if he die none can touch his rights for a next 75 years according to GB laws, if I remember correct.
>>70086274
They had to film Ian separate because of 3D. In LOTR many of the scale tricks were done in camera with forced perspective. I.e. Ian and Elijah in the wagon in FOTR, Ian is sitting several feet in front of Elijah to make Gandalf seem huge not to him, same with the table scenes w/ the ring inside Bag End. They couldn't use these forced perspective tricks for The Hobbit because it would be immediately noticeable because of the 3D.
>>70082120
>>70082042
I actually found The Fellowship to be the weakest of them all.
1. Two Towers
2. Return of the King
3. Fellowship
>>70087999
>Openning
>Nazguls apperance
>Passing of the elves
>weakest of them all
>>70088084
It's a great start and setting up the mood, but it's legit boring compared to the rest once you've seen them a couple of times.
>>70088170
It's still have a great travel atmosphere.
>>70085911
he needed to complete his opus dei Crimson Peak
>>70086805
karl urban was still pissed at his dad
>>70088170
Idk man.
>comfy inn setting early in the journey
>spying on the nazghul as they try to assassinate your party
>aragorn is badass!
>skulking around dungeons
i think if you compared the movies, it probably had the most happen, it might just feel like the most boring because there is a lot of foregrounding going on. I love it, it's behind two towers for me
>>70082669
>Implying Martin Freeman isn't the only perfect actor for young Bilbo Baggins.
>Implying his performance, along with a 5 minute scene with Gollum, weren't the only good things in the movie.
>Implying that it's not a crying shame that Freeman will never play Bilbo in an actual Hobbit movie.
>>70079876
Not perfect unfortunately.
Here are the minor changes that would make it perfect:
>Frodo defies the Nazguls at the Fords bu himself, no Arwen
Arwen can still find Aragorn and Co, but she should put Frodo on her horse and sends him on.
>Include a scene where Gandalf tells Theoden about the plan
It can a long shot with no actual dialogue, just Gandalf whispering in Theoden's ear and then a reaction.
>Remove Legolas sliding down stairs on shield.
Replace it with a different stunt.
>No deadmen at pelennor
Have Aragorn show up with reinforcements from south gondor. This can be set up earlier in the film with some dialogue with Denethor.
Unfortunately I don't think enough time can be dedicated to showing that the deadmen are used to rout the corsairs so they can take their ships, so maybe cut them completely.
>Sauron's eye at the top of barad dur is acceptable, but also show his physical form.
Zoom into a window at the top of Barad Dur showing Sauron slumped in a chair with his face hidden except his eye staring at a palantir.
>>70088655
awful
>>70088685
Which in particular?
>>70088655
>Frodo defies the Nazguls at the Fords bu himself
you are fucking retarded. He was on the verge of death. Not even going to read the rest of your idiocy
>>70080866
Buttmad. DCuck.
27%
>>70088655
These are crap. The only thing LotR needed was the Scouring of the Shire.
Look it up. We'd have Christopher Lee in the third movie, we'd see the hobbits back together as powerful heroes (concluding their arks) and it would give us a message beyond good triumphs over evil: 'war affects us all; war can't be ignored'.
>>70088799
the Scouring would not work in the movie, RotK is long enough as it is
>>70080060
Plus the source material, the honor and grace of the characters, and the post 911 rediscovery of the modern perception of good and evil.
>>70081933
Doesn't make you less of a tard though
>>70088799
I would only want it if it was an extended after-credits scene.
>Zoom out of Minas Tirith after Aragorn gives the oath of Elessar
>Play credits
>Scouring of Shire
>Final goodbye at Mithlond
Probably the best way to get around the "too many endings" complaint.
>>70088939
>replying to 5 hour old shitposting
Do you feel better now?
>>70088761
It's in the books and is like the one badass thing Frodo gets to do.
>>70079876
triggered
>>70083428
Kys tasteless subhuman
>>70088947
The movies should have ended with the zoom out of Minas Tirith. I love the books, but the movie would have been better if it ended there.
>>70087999
You like michael bay movies don't you ?
>>70088975
>flaming someone for replying on an interactive namibian carpentry tips forum
do you?
>>70080846
>Bait.jpg
>>70088975
I'm less board that's for sure
>>70089156
>>70088975
Ayy lmao
>>70089122
Ayy lmao dubs
>>70088864
Cut the ghosts out entirely, Aragorn does enough to prove his leadership qualities, then go to town on the cutting the shit out of the hoplelessly long winded ending.
>>70088947
This could work.
>>70079902
you know if this got made today someone would have a fit about no racial diversity
>>70079876
Perfect to sleep
I remember when these movies came out and all the cool kids at school hated them.
>>70089908
really? everyone at my school loved it
>>70082192
I remember this one, there was a huge thing about how people thought Peter Jackson was some ashole that attempted to cash in on 9/11 hype by naming his movie Two Towers.
Another group thought it was totally disrespectful for a movie to be named that and demanded it be changed. This same group attacked everything else in media for being disrespectful too.
>>70079956
Gimli was a shitty cast and pretty much the worst character besides Legolas.
>ywn witness rohan coming to the aid of gondor for the first time ever again
>>70080733
>tfw the crazies from uni are getting governmental positions
>>70089908
then those weren't the cool kids
>>70089334
Legolas would probably had been black just for the sake of diversity
>>70093821
Or asian, like in the Warcraft movie.
>>70089834
I hate to admit, but the first time I watched Fellowship, I slept halfway through. I had never watched any lotr movies before and was watching the extended edition.
