The names Bond
Better than Craig Bond
>>70066440
Yeah, GoldenEye was the best game ever.
The movie was good action flic.
Craig is too much of a "drama" actor to really be a top tier action hero. All that talking and character development bullshit hollywood tries to shoehorn into everything.
Boohoo, a bond girl dies.
Christ.
Jesus Christ.
>>70066508
it's like someone watched Layered Cake and wanted to make a movie based off that shit heap.
>>70066440
The name's Bond
The greatest of all Bonds
>>70066538
in the TV world we call this jumping the shark. This movie would have been good if it wasn't in the arctic for this part... I hated that and only that. I almost thought they had a good bond movie then.
>>70066538
it's not the same without the bond theme
>craig
>bond
>>70066563
Too bad he got pegged with some of the worest bond movies... Living Daylights was fucking based though.
>>70066538
>>70066538
Still better than Spectre
>>70066596
Yep. He was Bond.
>craig
>bond
>>70066652
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH no
I want a darker+more comedic bond
>>70066652
yeah, but 3 out of 4 aint bad, and the first 3 were more like a trilogy, the 4th was so bad craig is even skipping out of doing the next 2 movies, so no one is disagreeing with you that Spectre was bad.
Compared to Die another Day, it's actually pretty fucking good, though.
>>70066686
>you rang?
>>70066596
He was the best bond next to Moore
>>70066609
Licence to Kill is amazing though, so underrated. Yeah the plot resembles a generic American action film, but it's still very Bondian and has some of the best girls and one of the best villains.
>>70066730
QoS is not good
Casino Royale and Skyfall are better than the largest part of the franchise's movies, though
>>70066703
???
you don't understand how hard it is to do DARKER and MORE COMEDIC. You get American Dad, basically.
>>70066759
Connery and Moore were the best Bonds. Everyone else just copied them. Craig didn't even try to be Bond.
>>70066440
nah
Skyfall was pure Bondkino.
>>70066730
I guess if you can't appreciate corny movies. A failed grimdark drama is worse than an over the top action flick any day desu.
>>70066813
Craig tried his own thing and gave bond a new spin.
He saved the franchise by doing so.
After Die Another Day the franchise would've been Dead without Casino Royale.
>>70066778
>Licence to Kill
Not even a American action flick but American TV show, like TJ Hooker.
>>70066822
Skyfall: Lost in New York was a shit show besides based Deakins making it look cool.
Brosnan will always be the real Bond to me.
>>70066885
How exactly did he save the franchise? Save it from what? Die Another Day was a commercial success
Also if it had died after DAD, we would have been spared the Craig films, which I wouldn't mind at all.
>>70066885
Literally anybody could do Craig's boring ass Bond. Casino Royale is his only good Bond flick btw.
>>70066781
QoS works with CR, it feels more like a sequel which is very new fora bond movie, and really what makes it so refreshing. Blow for blow not as glitzy as CR.
The whole plot revolving around water wasn't really the most EPIC plot that surmised in one little shack in the middle of nowhere, but that's about the worst of it. I wish it ended better is all.
>>70066853
No way, invisible cars and horrible green screen is absolute unwatchable trash.
Spectre at worst is just boring.
>>70066947
>Skyfall was shit
>>70066915
>>70066947
>Skyfall was bad
False.
>>70066942
saved it from everyone getting bored of Bond. His antic and shenanigans were getting to the point of ridiculous and losing touch with all of reality. Even the most basic viewers kind gave up after that shit. NO ONE THOUGHT HIM JUMPING THE SHARK LOOKED GOOD/COOL
>>70067020
>>70067032
Skyfall is shit
>>70066942
people were fucking pissed after DaD and swore to never see a Bond film again.
>>70066939
Depends on what year your born. Nintendo64!
>>70066563
It's true
>>70066896
Eh, there were plenty of movies like that as well. Besides, LTK took that concept and made it work within the Bond formula rather splendidly, if you look it's all there. The girls, the gadgets, the one-liners, the henchmen, the over-the-top action, etc.
It also makes better use of Q than any other film in the franchise, Desmond Llewelyn is great in it.
>>70067095
That's how I felt after Skyfall. I'd seen every Bond movie multiple times, but didn't even both to watch Spectre after that abomination.
>>70067020
>>70067032
I enjoyed Spectre more than Skyfall tbf
>>70067094 (You)
What a brilliant analysis.
Never fucking reply to me ever again.
>>70067134
your taste is horseshit.
see>>70067032 and >>70066822
>>70066790
american dad has become great so I'm actually okay with that
this realistic bond has become too brooding and while I wouldn't mind a more light-hearted direction it would be too close to what bond was and it might come off as derivative
>>70067032
>My opinion is right because a bunch of other people agree with me
>>70067141
It's an alright movie.
>>70067094
You're hurting my autism. STAP.
>>70066538
You know what? I can see how this would've been cool to see in movie theaters. In a tiny webm the effect is lost.
>What goes on in this town is none of your business
>>70067210
that's how a consensus works.
>my opinion is correct solely because it's unique!
>>70067182
Much like Sherlock was always brooding. That's what intelligent men do. Only dopes are comedic.
>>70067247
>that's how a consensus works
So, if enough people believe something it's true? Wow...
>my opinion is correct solely because it's unique!
I never implied anything of the sort. You're the one using argumentum ad populum, faggot
>>70067223
Brosnan was good too.
connery was the only good one, all the rest are fucking shit
>>70067211
i've heard Spectre described as "a bad Moore era script directed by an A-list director" which seems pretty accurate
it is fucking gorgeous
>>70067302
I think there's something inherently comedic about a guy being so emotionally cold he can basically kill a small country of people and still be 'classy' enough to care about wether his martini is shaken or not
>>70066563
what a fucking man
>As long as I'm living here it is
>>70066440
this. casting Craig as Bond is one of the worst decisions ever
>>70067367
>>70067327
you provided no actual claims, all you did was claim it's shit and you expect us to take your word as law? nah.
I showed that professional movie critics adored this movie AND a general audience loved it too. Am I right? no, it's subjective. But this opinion is the one that's most always agreed upon.
>>70067373
It's a good movie with a bad twist.
The pacing was very good though.
Intro was also fantastic.
>>70066947
QoS is the only bad one. The rest are just mediocre, including Casino Royale
>>70067429
THEN
>>70067179
>your taste is horseshit
>you can tell i'm right because i screencapped rt and called it kino in a different post
I bet you watch capeshit too.
>>70067484
CR is fantastic.
>>70067481
I liked how funny it was
Not being sarcastic, all the jokes hit home for me
>>70067439
>you provided no actual claims, all you did was claim it's shit and you expect us to take your word as law? nah.
I think you're confusing me with someone else. I never said it was shit. All in all, I think Skyfall is an okay film.
>I showed that professional movie critics adored this movie AND a general audience loved it too. Am I right? no, it's subjective. But this opinion is the one that's most always agreed upon.
So what? When a lot of people like a movie, all it means is that a lot of people liked it. It proves nothing else.
>>70066563
Goldeneye was written with him in mind but we got Brosnan
Goldeneye was good but did people like die another die and the world is not enough? Really liked those more and the world is not enough game for n64 was better then goldeneye
>>70067391
But there was some good comedy about that with Craig. I think comedy should be more naturally occurring or else it's just camp. American Dad does have a good way of writing intelligent script that does work against the tropes, but bond has so many movies he both invents tropes, like bond girls, goes against the the tropes like marrying them, or obviously goes WITH so many tropes, like bonds pistol is one shot kills, every time.
There's only so far you can go with that. I am more sad that SHerlock didn't get a trilogy since I thought it was the darker more comedic movie, but then we just have the new Captain Britain: Civil War.
Layered Cake was really good, but it was mostly because of the music, so that's what I think is really important about setting the moods for the Bond flics and why Spectre was so shit.
That opening song.... god.... damn...
>>70067032
and now you're gonna say that BvS is bad just because RT told you so.
>>70067603
DaD is the only bad one.
>>70067437
Yeah, they should have casted a Black guy or a girl. OBVIOUSLY.
What get Brosnan in there doing movies until he looks as old as Moore did? Or keep Connery in there until NOW? Face it Craig as more like Ian Fleming's bond than any other. you just don't know what the real bond was like. He was a human.
>>70067603
I like TWINE, it isn't great by any stretch of the imagination but I find it enjoyable and I like how it twists the formula without actually defying it.
TND and DAD are terrible, but still pretty watchable. I think the classic Bond formula is virtually foolproof, even when the movie is bad as long is follows the guidelines it will be entertaining.
>>70067437
>worst decision ever (fedora tip)
>made lots of money and appealed to the franchise's main audience: casual moviegoers who want lighthearted fare
Choose one
>>70067481
It was good. I didn't want to watch it as much as the other Craig movies, but the opening song was bad, compared to the previous three, and the graphics for it was moore era too.
TheBlofeldtwist was what really fell flat. It just felt stilted. Like too elaborate and too whimsical and too campy. For having 3 movies establish themselves so distinctly just made the entire movie come undone. Also who really cared about C, and that whole character was moot, but he was someone else from Sherlock Holmes TV show I think, so it was baiting viewers...
That's a bigger thing going on now I think.
>>70067572
Weird, I found it to be rather funny as well.
>>70067688
>Face it Craig as more like Ian Fleming's bond than any other. you just don't know what the real bond was like. He was a human.
Have you even read the books? Craig has very little in common with Fleming's Bond, and the the closest we've come is most definitely Dalton.
>>70067594
They don't feel like different bonds, really. They treated the situations the same.
connery is really old compared to men now, and moore was a lot more polite.
>>70067823
I think the lack of hype for it was a big factor, it came out around a very busy time.
The Star Wars hype might have detracted from the excitement for it.
>>70067437
You must be a REAL hardcore fan of the Bond series to think this NOW. I think after Skyfall no real bond fan has felt this. Spectre we just see it the sam was Craig does, as a poorly written movie.
>GLANG-GLANG-A-LANG-A-LANG
>Russian shits in black jumpsuits with lemon piping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrp0wJsXNEA
Why are there never any Alan Partridge threads on /tv/
>>70067917
dude Craig didn't feel like a Bond its a fucking Bourne movie. And please Spectre was shit, Skyfall had great visuals and nothing more. even shoehorning Asian chick was a huge facepalm moment
>>70067856
Little in common visually or mentally? Because I saw Craig doing what Flemming's bond did and acted that way, and felt that way. You see those moments of fear and fragility peep through the false exterior, and it's one of the better talking points between him and Vesper.
Dalton was just like the rest, a campy "spy" wit gadgets and even got into personal vendettas that didn't really constitute as actual 007 work.
Actual Bond saves the world, not saves the gril.
>>70067870
Connery = Charming
Latezby = Unsure, but confident.
Moore = Polite Womanizer
Dalton = Man on a mission
Brosnan =fun
Craig = Smug but gets the job done.
imo
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FT2lBcT.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>70068008
Actual Bond saves the world and gets the girl.
>>70067980
>Bourne movie
this is a tired old criticism. Only QoS was a Bourne Ripoff.
Bourne also redefined the action genre, so of course there's going to be some influence.
>>70067980
No one is going to argue abut Spectre but the previous three actually make the first time bond was a series, and feels more like a trilogy, which is what sets it apart from the rest of the Bond movies.
Actual development both plot and character wise. The closest we saw that previously was Moneypenny having a virtual reality fantasy with Pierce or Blofeld being dumped down a chimney stack.
Spectre kinda tried to say Blofeld did it all and shoehorn it into that obviously perfectly made trilogy. It was just a money grab with bait chracters to try to bring in viewers like Moriarty and Voldemort and that guy from Inglorious Basterds that keeps popping into other movies and failing hard to impress.
The asian chick wasn't even the worst of it, that was NOT a bad time in the movie. There was some really good moments during the whole Shanghai part.
>>70068148
>perfectly made trilogy
Craigfag please end your own life
>>70067980
>>70068119
And this, Bourne movies redefined the action genre, and I am surprised more movies are not doing this. But Having that one guy that is really amazing is sort of the Bond Shtick that no one says Bourne ripped off.
>>70067652
It's true but I loved it still, every bond film before Craig always felt like watchable bond classics compared to the mope fest it turned into
>>70068148
jfc I can't believe what i'm reading in here. you're either craig, his PR or a cock sucking faggot that loves his cock
>>70068119
>Only QoS was a Bourne Ripoff
Literally everybody called called CR a Bourne movie more than a Bond movie when they first saw it, what the fuck are talking about?
>>70068075
Why stick to tired old tropes?
>>70068075
Best Bond didn't.
His wife died in the end starting the only real continuity in the bond movies, besides SPECTRE.
>>70068207
Bourne doesn't play Poker and have perfect 3 act structures.
This is a weak criticism.
>>70068208
>why stick to the formula that has made this one of the oldest and most beloved movie franchises of all time
I know, right? Lets get rid of the gadgets, and chase scenes, and exotic locations, and hire a guy who doesn't look like Bond, act like Bond, or have the charisma of Bond. Surely the fans will love it!
>>70068018
>>70067134
So the last Bond movie that came out is why you hated Craig, retroactively?
After the best Bond Trilogy ever?
>Daniel Craig: I'd rather slash my wrists than play James Bond again
You know that he should never been casted because the 4th movie was going to bomb....
Logic seems sound. can't really find a flaw.
>>70068330
>Bond Trilogy
Stop you fucking Americuck
You clearly know nothing about Bond
The name's Bond
Jane Bond
>>70068008
>Little in common visually or mentally?
Both
>Because I saw Craig doing what Flemming's bond did and acted that way, and felt that way. You see those moments of fear and fragility peep through the false exterior, and it's one of the better talking points between him and Vesper.
Except that Fleming's Bond is something of a snob, fastidious and sophisticated. Craig's Bond comes off as a blue-collar Special Forces guy who drinks beer instead of martinis
>Dalton was just like the rest, a campy "spy" wit gadgets and even got into personal vendettas that didn't really constitute as actual 007 work.
Oh please, his portrayal isn't campy in the least. The man is a serious actor, and read a ton of the original books to get into character. But also, he does this without throwing the tongue-in-cheek style of previous Bonds out the window, instead merging them seamlessly. He was also the first Bond to do his own stunts, even losing part of his finger in the process and having to get it re-attached.
Furthermore, if you honestly think Fleming's Bond never took missions of revenge, even more proof you have no idea what you're talking about. Read the books nigger
>>70068330
Craig was terrible since the beginning. Skyfall just put the nail in the coffin.
>>70068277
Bond doesn't play poker either, he plays Baccarat
>>70068052
I think Lazenby is the favorite since that is how REAL bond is. There's supposed to be nagging doubt. I felt that with Craig more. Less in QoS but that was more revenge fueld. Q always seems to be doubting him until the very end too, which was a nice touch.
Smug is the facade, but underneath it, he died in CR. You see him learn to hide that part of him more as it goes on.
Spectre Craig was Smug but Gets the Job Done. Like it didn't seem like a bluff, but actually how he was written. Walking into SPECTRE like he owned the place and everything else stupid that happened.
>>70067134
I get where you're coming from. Casino Royale was great because Craig could act and was supported by Green in a movie that's as grounded as you can get with super-spies and genius villains.
But Quantum of Solace, Skyfall, and Spectre have all been successively worse.
It's like best Bond, worst Bond movies.
>>70066440
And after watching the November man he proved that he can still pull Bond off.
While i didn't like Craig as Bond i think Skyfall was cool. Except for the ending... that siege thing on his house where people called him Bond it was just ridiculous.
I think Cavill should be the next Bond and face Brosnan. That alone would be awesome.
>>70068173
The trilogy part, obviouly no
>>70068445
CR was great because of Green and Mads. The less Craig you have in a movie the better it is
>>70068352
It's not to see a bond movie act like a series. Fucking Spy Kids has better continuity then all of the bond movies ever.
THE END THE MOVIES SAYING BOND WILL BE BACK, BUT IT ACTS MORE LIKE INSPECTOR GADGET.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S A TROPE DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO KEEP DOING IT.
IF NOTHING ELSE THAT'S WHY I LIKE CRAIGS MOVIES. I DON'T CARE IF OPERA HERSELF STARED IN IT.
Cringefest
There's no such thing as Bondkino and you guys are arguing like any of these flicks have any artistic merit to them ...
Bond is and always will be light hearted fare that speak to current events and pop culture from the perspective of a static character who will never change. And the last 4 bond films are no different.
The films appeal to this masses and they make money.. The fact that they can release one of these every 4 years and people have been interested in them since the 1960s has nothing to do with the artistic merit or symbolism or cinematography or plot or any of that bullshit.
>>70068433
mah nigga. Lazenby is my favourite as well, then its a tie between Connery and Dalton. Brosnan is good as well too bad he just have bad movies
>>70068317
Survey says
>CRAIG
Yes, they do.
>>70068317
It worked for Craig.
Shit was getting stale, franchises have to evolve or die.
If the Star Trek reboots didn't change things up in 2009 that franchise would stay dead.
From 1962 to 2004 things were that way, change was necessary.
Maybe it could of stayed that way a little longer if DaD didn't shit the bed so hard with the fun campiness and turned a lot of people off from it.
The reason Craig's films change up so much is because
1) the formula was tired and beaten to death
2) filmmakers lost the ability to make compelling films with that tired formula
3) the formula practically became embarrassing after Austin Powers and and the countless parodies.
>>70068523
>complains about continuity
>in a movie that brings back a villain who was clearly killed in fyeo
>>70068571
so now that its getting stale what the fuck is the riot over casting Elba as the next Bond?
>>70068372
BBC. Shaken, not stirred.
>>70068445
Worst bond movies?
I presume you liked the Blacksploitation movie better...or Never Day Never Again... Or Die Another Day... Or Man with a Golden Gun?
Cause if so, then i tip my fedora to you
>>70068377
Except he doesn't drink beers, he is a Special Forces guy, and dalton busting drug lords in miami, compare those sharks to the ones in live and let die, and that's the difference. He started off good, but the series just devolved into a saturday night movie, which i know that reference is dated now.
I don't mean revenge I mean personal vendettas. the petty shit. Killing his wife was one thing, but when a friend gets killed or some other broke ass excuse it just seems so beneath a guy like that.
>>70068693
>Except he doesn't drink beers
Actually he does, in Skyfall. Real shitty beer too
>>70068638
no, not everything is as black and white as that.
Bond's race and gender are things you simply do NOT change. (and they won't, trust me)
Tone and Characters are something that can change over time.
>>70067327
>So, if enough people believe something it's true? Wow...
you can't say for a fact if a movie is good or bad moron.
obviously if everyone says the world is flat that isn't the case because there's proof the world isn't. There's no proof a movie is good or bad, therefore the only way to judge it is to see how many people agree with you.
>>70068389
you mean Spectre? Skyfall was good? I don't get why people hated it. Any specific points... I can't seem to find any critics that relate to that view, so I don't know how to understand it.
Are you upset that the movie lacked diversity? I mean they had a Moneypenny as a black strong woman, that must have appealed to you?
>>70067591
so there's no way to prove a movie is good or bad
>HURR THE MOVIE WAS GOOD, IT JUST SO HAPPENS ALOT OF PEOPLE DIDNT LIKE IT.
we must never say a movie is good or bad again.
>>70068752
>There's no proof a movie is good or bad, therefore the only way to judge it is to see how many people agree with you.
How pathetic and insecure do you have to be in order to do shit like this?
>I really liked the film
>Oh, everyone else hates it, I guess I was wrong, into the trash it goes
>>70068763
Skyfall was popular so naturally it fell prey to the /tv/ cycle.
>media gets released
>most of /tv/ makes a sensible judgement about it
>this judgement also happens to be the consensus
>reddit, facebook, gawker, and other hated inhabitants of the internet share this consensus
>/tv/ does a 180 to distinguish themselves from the crowd
Skyfall is just a recent example. Other flip flops include Nolan, True Detective season 2, Only God Forgives, Avatar, and my first experience with this board was these dorks defending Transformers 2 soon after its release.
Craig is such damn good bond
>>70068853
agreed
>>70068413
Baccarat is a dated game, Bond also fought in the Cold War post-WW2. Don't see many Nazi sympathizers or Russian Defectors?
Poker is a classic staple of action movies, as well as a popular trend NOW because of the INTERNET.
Less Russian Spies and Less Baccarat. Part of time marching on. But Westerns had a lot of poker. It's part of action flicks. More people relate that tension in card games to poker. The books were not meant for a worldwide audience, mearly a british one.
Bond has expanded. Even still no one said Bond loved Baccarat.
>>70068781
There's nothing wrong with saying a movie is good or bad, only with trying to justify your opinion with fallacious arguments like appeal to popularity. If you want to explain WHY you think a movie is good, do so by pointing things out in the film itself that you think are well-executed.
Posting a RT score and acting like it somehow validates your opinion makes you look like a moron.
>>70068581
Okay, you win. Spectre was bad, that's why Craig is bad. Still liked the previous three movies, which would almost look like a trilogy. Although you cannot prove it, they were terrible. Because Craig was terrible.
I am a believer, i'll stop posting in your pest threads.
>>70068826
Skyfall is dogshit though
Despite the differing opinions ITT, this is a very good thread with great discussion.
>>70068944
RT has very well written consensus lines.
>>70068544
The songs are not artistic?
Bond being an icon onto himself is not artistic?
What do you define artistic as? Esoteric? That's something I don't see as artistic at all but by the pretentious. Bond embodies a philosophy that rivals that of sherlock but in a Inferential Logic as opposed to Sherlocks Deductive logic.
Obviously that layer goes beyond your understanding, since you think they're just Jason Bourne movies with high-octane action. They go beyond that, unknown to the laymen.
>>70068413
They literally play Texas Hold'em in Casino Royale.
>>70068882
High stakes Baccarat is still very popular among the financial elite, putting it in Casino Royale would in no way be beyond believability at all. Making it Texas Hold-em is just dumbing it down for the audience, because hurr, the average slob might not know what it is
>>70068548
I like Craig the most, only because he's the first bond to have the smarts to step out of the game before he gets bled to death.
Bronson is one of my favorite actors. Compared to some of his other films, Bond is okay. Obviously they decline as they go on. I think he's a bit too dark for Bond movies, I think the biggest criticism of him is that he's not as charming as he thinks. He's got a good air of formidable, but not charm. Craig did that well, long before he was a Bond even.
>>70068969
elaborate.
I find it to fantastically directed, has a serviceable plot, and a very complelling villain and third act.
And a wonderful song:
https://youtu.be/DeumyOzKqgI
>>70069027
which was kinda my point
>>70069099
>only because he's the first bond to have the smarts to step out of the game before he gets bled to death.
That woudl be Brosnan since they wanted him to do 2 more films after DAD
Also Spectre is way worse than DAD
>>70068638
There was riots over Craig being casted by a girl or black person too. It's controversy which helps keep the franchise relevant in it's down time. Probably started by the PR companies then anyone in reality. Hell probably Elba's PR company, incase the Dark Tower series falls, which it's done before.
>>70069126
>Compelling third act
>Bond Home Alone
>>70069139
>That woudl be Brosnan since they wanted him to do 2 more films after DAD
I thought it was the other way around, that Brosnan wanted to make more but the powers-that-be took a shit on his contract and screwed him over
>>70069170
>Home Alone somehow invented the act of defending a fortress
This is a paper-thin criticism.
>>70068668
If it's a bond movie I liked it. Only a few I loved, and bits and pieces of them are good. Die Another day was good in the start, Man with a Golden Gun is almost the first bond movie that really sticks out. It wasn't bad, but LIVE AND LET DIE, how was that a bad movie?
Blacksplotation yes, but it was a different time, and that's kind of the endearing part.
also bad ass song will NEVER EVER DIE.
>>70069193
Nope they wanted him to do more
why do these cliche action movies still exist? Shouldn't they have died in the 90s?
>>70069220
>Randomly house in the middle of nowhere
>hurr muh house
>proceeds to place traps even home alone would laugh at
If you don't think Goldeneye is the absolute GOAT Bond film then you don't know shit
>>70069139
>>>Also Spectre is way worse than DAD
absolutely incorrect.
see >>70066538
and >>70066623
>>70069295
>one scene in DAD somehow makes it worse than the turd that was Spectre
no
>>70069253
because Craig turned the ship around and saved it from death.
>>70069264
>hurr
Nice bait, 9gag. Think of a real criticism.
>>70068728
That's what humans do. It's why I think he reflects a real human more than a 2-d "BONDJAMESBOND" stereotype that movie after movie tries to go against, from XxX to Kingsmen, Bourne to Mission Impossible.
The stereotype is so saturated that people know who Bond is and the tropes that go with it and find it cliched WITHOUT EVER SEEING A BOND MOVIE. That's more like a cartoon caricature of himself.
But too Bad that Connery was criticized for not looking posh and like a brick layer. Bond was always suppose to have a nonchalant casual look to him.
He's not suppose to look like high class, but be able to fit into high class, or whatever. So,
>Craig
=
>Bond
>>70069353
>hurr is a 9gag thing
Nice to know you've been here for all of 5 minutes
>>70069287
OHMSS is the goat Bond film but i like your pic
>>70069320
>invisible cars
>hally berry
>ice palace
>invisible fucking cars
>cars that are literally invisible
>>70069373
The best thing about Craig's films is that Bond is an actual human being in them and not a fantasy self-insert 2D walking cliché.
>>70069430
>le invisible car makes it the worse bond film
You have NO arguement
>>70069076
Financial elite, but not the CRIMINAL ELITE. Yeah, using Texas Hold 'em is something that was chosen over Baccarat because it had international appeal. If it didn't they probably would have used Baccarat, but people in Brazil, to China, to UK, US, Africa, and Russian know the rules to POKER.
I don't think most people know what Baccarat, that didn't learn it from BOND first. It's not a movie made for Elite.
but seriously, at that time, Poker was probably more popular than Baccarat, maybe not now (not likely), and maybe not before (more likely), but it does reflect Bond's more "common" background as he didn't come for money, being good at poker, and it's the same argument as "RUSSIAN SPIES" not existing in this timeline either.
>>70069295
I remember my parents coming back from DAD and they like Segal movies, lowest tier shmucks ever, and even they were like...
>"I think we're done with Bond movies, that last part was kind of bad with him wind surfing around, it looked so fake"
>>70069517
I don't need one. That movie is irredeemable garbage.
Spectre was a good movie based on a bad twist.
>>70069373
>>70069484
Different strokes, but I like Bond to be larger-than-life. Making him "human" and down-to-earth is not what I want. You can like Craig, that's fine, but I hate him and his movies. I'd rather watch Moonraker over any of them on any day
>>70069578
>Spectre was a good movie based on a bad twist.
You have craigs dick so far up your ass it is unreal
>>70069385
OHMSS IS THE BEST BOND FILM, WE KNOW!
WE ALL KNOW
the pleb cannot argue this, becauseTHEY NEVER SAW IT
>>70069320
the entirety of DAD is fucking awful
>>70069593
You should check out the Marvel movies then, they're larger-than-life. Or you know, watch the previous bond movies again.... there's no shortage of them.
if it wasn't for SPECTRE I would have hoped to see Craig do bond longer and see it develop into more of a character piece, which would have been interesting to see Bond actually AGE. He was falling apart in Skyfall, and that was new for the Bond movies. It added to it, more then took away. the Improvised Defenses at the house kind of reflected it, and showed what a Bond could do pushed to the limits. We know what bond can do with in good conditions, fucking anything.
>>70069598
>that dick isn't the best Bond Dick
Ask any girl/fag which bond they want, and except for the ones that like to fuck Grandpas they'll say raig
>All these fags defending Craig
>Actually pretending like QOS, Skyfall and Spectre are good
Just pathetic
>>70069714
sorry should sayMATT DAMONnot 'raig'
>>70069714
Literally anyone women alive will say Brosnan
>>70069593
that's fine to have preferences.
I personally dispise Moore and feel all of his films are awful and dreadful to watch but he was Bond.
when others act like Craig wasn't Bond or how there are only 20 Bond films or how Craig killed the franchise, it comes off as petty and immature.
everyone was bond, even Latenzby.
>>70069803
Craig wasn't Bond though. Even in Casino Royale he was an edge lord
He is bland, has anti charisma and at best average acting skills on top of the fact he aged like complete shit and looks like a 97 year old now
>>70069604
I liked the start, but skyfall had a better use of making the the intro song meld into the movie. It was what set DAD apart, and the rest after that was just going in a steady decline. The director commentary even acknowledge that was the last time they were going to do a campy Bond movie and is probably why they were pumping it with so much CAMP.
DIAMOND FACE, like come on, he was getting treatment to become white,and halbery fighting with lasers and .... it never ended, it just got worse and worse. Compared to SWORDFISH it wasn't a bad movie.
Compared to CR, QoS, Skyfall, or SPECTRE it's SpyKids 3.
At least Spectre had better cameos in it, but it was the first Craig bond to almost jump a shark, it's debatable, but DAD is honestly the Jump the Shark bond movie, and the reason for the Craig Bond movies.
so say what you will, but NO BOND MOVIE HAS BEEN SO BAD TO NEED A HARD REBOOT LIKE DAD
>>70069693
>You should check out the Marvel movies then, they're larger-than-life.
good one
>>70069736
>>70069860
>NO BOND MOVIE HAS BEEN SO BAD TO NEED A HARD REBOOT LIKE DAD
umm are you 12?
A View to a Kill was so bad it not only killed Moores career it also killed Daltons
>>70069736
he looks like John Stamos doing his best Hugh Jackman impersonation.
>>70069715
You know the real Bond fans from the Trolls.
the secret isINTELLIGENT DEBATE
>>70069941
it didn't drastically shift the tone of the entire franchise like DaD did.
Bond wasn't a walking cliché back then yet. You can thank DaD AND Austin Powers (along with multiple other parodies) for that.
>>70069941
I mean this with no malice or sarcasm...but that's my point exactly.
>>70069941
Octopussy was worse
>>70070003
at this point, I just look at everyone who calls Skyfall objective trash as a troll.
it's honesty kind of amazing die another day was so bad it was responsible changing the creative direction of a franchise for the next decade.
>>70070021
>it didn't drastically shift the tone of the entire franchise like DaD did.
No maybe not but it was complete dog shit
Infact it was so bad Daltons career was literally cut short as a results of it
You are such a fucking cuck
>>70066563
That's not George Lazenby
>>70069736
The keepers will say Sean Connery
>>70070120
I'm not disagreeing my friend, that movie was pure garbage like most Moore films.
It's a shame, I liked Dalton.
I also recall him not wanting to do anymore films because of film rights dispute that put the third Dalton film on hold for 5 or so years (which ended up being GoldenEye).
>>70067594
Dalton was a dour Bond, even more so than Craig somehow. Brosnan was a superior replacement.
>Not the perfect Bond
>she will never squeeze you
>>70070242
Um, no. Go back and watch the Dalton films, he had plenty of wit and humor. His one-liners are some of the best in the series
Brosnan just plays Remington Steele for his first two movies, his best performance is in TWINE.
>>70070242
>>70070257
Brosnan honestly was the most accurate.
GoldenEye is a top 3 Bond film.
>>70070412
>His one-liners are some of the best in the series
>>70066778
I also have License to Kill among my favorite Bond films.
>>70070554
It's the most rewatchable, IMO. Seen it at least 20 times
>Bond meets M at the Hemingway House
>M asks for his gun
>"Looks like this is A Farewell to Arms."
kek
>>70070554
ditto
>>70067247
Are you a muslim too?
>>70068008
>when you claim to read the books while simultaneously proving you haven't
>>70068008
excellent post desu
>>70069522
Think about what you've just advocated. Think hard. Really think about it.
>>70071582
It was more popular at the time. What wrong with that? It made for an incredible scene.
Craig = Best Bond.
