How did a company that isn't Disney or Pixar manage to make the greatest animated film of all time?
Cause Dreamworks' 2D animation department was always superior. People just underrated it.
>>70059329
By having god-tier scource material
>>70059329
Antz was good too.
I just realized that was way before the WE WUZ hysteria.
>best animated film from dreamworks
>prince of egypt
>>70059441
The first Shrek is really good
But Prince of Egypt is better
BY THE POWER OF RAH
The soundtrack to this movie still pumps me up.
It was a beautiful rendition of the story and was absolutely rammed with celebrities in voice roles, from Val Kilmer as Moses all the way to Steve Martin/ Martin Short as the temple priests singing "You're playing the the big boys now".
For an animated feature that wasn't backed by Disney It was very ahead of its time.
>>70059329
Spielberg was the executive producer.
WE
WUZ
>>70059369
Underrated
>>70059642
SLAVES
>>70059369
Paraphrased it pretty well, but Moses should have been nearing 70 or so by the time he went to confront Pharoh.
GOD
>>70059670
>>70059699
Pharaohs, dumbasses. We're talking about the jews
>>70059749
the jews weren't slaves in spite of their constant niggering
mine holds truer to the meme
>>70059749
We're talking about niggers in Egypt
Still the only good animated film that Dreamworks has put out.
>>70059514
I kind of forgot that the Egyptians in the bible worshiped different gods, and that the plague of darkness was God defeating the Egyptian Sun God Ra in mortal combat.
>>70060028
Forgot that Road to El Dorado was Dreamworks as well so add that.
>>70060080
>No Shrek
>>70060028
Talk about peaking early.
>>70060115
>Antz
>POE
>El Dorado
>Chicken Run
>Shrek
>Sinbad
>Shark Talk
>Madagascar
Bretty GOAT desu
>>70059937
Jews were slaves. Who do you think built the pyramids?
>>70060252
slaves didn't build the pyramids and there is no proof that jews were actually in Egypt proper or that they fled
stop believing fairy tales the flood didn't happen either
BY THE POWER OF RA
>>70060186
El Dorado and PoE are the best movies ever made by Dreamworks
>>70060379
Slaves were almost certainly involved in the construction of the pyramids. The majority of people living in Egypt at the time were slaves.
>>70060379
Get that fedora bullshit outta here, faggot.
>>70060379
Everyone knows it was aliens; the pyramids are their landing strip.
Best song was in the sequal tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oL6HlzQZLo
>>70060535
serf =/= slave
>>70060609
believing the bible isn't literal =/= athiest
still one of my favorite movies
>>70060723
No, they were literally property. Practically every ancient society was full of slaves.
>>70060100
The entire Shrek franchise was horrible.
>>70061061
there are records of attendance where it says "so and so is drunk/hungover sent home" you dont treat slaves that way
>>70061061
>>70061218
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/11/great-pyramid-tombs-slaves-egypt
use google for other sources if still not convinced
>>70060063
Evangelicals are so ignorant about how deep muh Biblical lore is. It's pretty cool when you don't read it in English.
>>70059696
The first Cecil B. Demille film got that part right
>>70059506
>The first Shrek is really good
That's not a lot much when Shrek 2 was so much better
>>70060707
>mfw reading about the develop of the sequel
>they screened the entire story reel for the investors for the first
>tfw nothing in the film made any sense and it was a incoherent mess
>shit was so bad they gave up on making it a Theatrical release and just released it on video
>>70060115
That's depressing. What went wrong?
>>70062902
C
G
I
>>70059329
Too many unnecessary songs
That Rabbi's song and BIG BOYS were both awful
>>70060115
Chicken Run was such a great movie
All the stop-motion shit was Aardman Studios though. Dreamworks just distributed it.
>>70060186
>Sinbad
>Shark Talk
>Madagascar
I think that might be nostalgia talking, m8
>Val Kilmer
>Ralph Fiennes
>Michelle Pfeiffer
>Sandra Bullock
>Jeff Goldblum
>Patrick Stewart
>Hellen Mirren
>Danny Glover
>Steve Martin
>Martin Short
How?
>>70062941
>not learning to appreciate your place in the greater scheme of a greater purpose rather than grovel about only your own personal achievements
Shiggy
Also check em
>>70063013
DreamWorks was pretty into Wallace and Gromit's production though, you can hear in the audio documentary that they would come in and ask to add jokes all over the place, in fact, Katzenberg was the one that came with with that awful gag in the climax of the film with the Bulldog reaching into his lady purse and putting a quarter in the toy airplane, I still wonder how the scene would play out if it didn't have that
>>70063125
holy fuck i need to watch this now
>>70059329
I remember my church was telling people not to see it.
Something about how the musical numbers took away from the actual biblical message that should've been enough on its own without resorting to Disney shit.
To this day I still haven't seen it.
>>70063740
What about the Cecil B. DeMille film?
>>70060379
I just wanted to lend my support to this comment and specifically suggest that this topic to be retained, even albeit in a different board.
The better question is how did dreamworks make the best religious film?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcg5rN-jlaw
>>70065037
>best religious film
That's not Ben-Hur
>>70065037
Rhythmic chanting will never not be cool, prove me wrong.
>>70062941
Through Heaven's Eyes is my favorite song in the movie you pleb.
>>70065305
>I WILL NOT LET
>LET
>YOUR
>MY
>PEOPLE
>PEOPLE
>GOOOOOOOOO
>>70065189
Why not The Ten Commandments (1956)?
>>70059329
It was a horrible film. Only fucking christcunts and mudslimes think otherwise.
>>70065189
>>70065472
Both solid choices. I guess my real point is why are more recent attempts so terrible? Like angels being magic rock people? What is that shit?
>>70065472
Well geez, talk about a duel of Titans.I'd pick Ten Commandments, Ben-Hur's writing gets a little clunky once Gore Vidal left and Christopher Fry started writing everything after the Charriot Race.
>>70065604
Because they are not being made by people of caliber like Cecil B. DeMille and William Wyler, I've seen Noah and I liked it quite a bit, but then you got Exodus, which was a Ridley Scott film and I still don't know what to make of it, other than the massive backlash it received on release because the Egyptians weren't WEWUZ
>>70059506
>>70059441
>>70061547
I agree that Shrek 2 is better than Shrek.
>>70059369
my sides
>>70065741
>that I NEED A HERO scene
You can tell that someone in that studio was inspired as fuck when they came up with that scene, top tier animated film.
>>70065037
Holy fuck. I have to watch this.
>>70059369
nice
>>70066008
It's on netflix
>>70066008
Its fucking GOAT desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH5y71hOvk0
>>70060707
this is my new anthem
>>70059369
kek
>>70065584
And Jews. Jews like it pretty well.
Really if you can get Christians, Muslims AND Jews to agree that a film depicting a story sacred to all three religions is GOAT you've probably done a pretty damn good job. Of course fedoras aren't going to like it, they were NEVER going to like it because they're fedoras.
>>70066894
i side with the egyptians desu. not even fedora.
>>70060115
>>70060186
Bruh
No love for Kung Fu Panda?
>>70060379
Jews didn't even exist at that time
>>70066894
But I'm a fedora and the burning bush scene is probably my favorite scene in an animated film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrUTsJ-8s1k
>>70066894
I love this movie and it is probably one of the main reasons I am a fedora now.
>>70067289
>that loving voice of God
So comfy desu
>>70065037
Damn, that gave me goosebumps.
>>70067366
>God was also voiced by Val Kilmer
>that is, God is within all of us
I really do wonder why people don't try to make serious religious dramas anymore. They all either have a goofy gimmick or are torture porn like the passion.
>>70067590Noah
>>70067839
>noah
>serious
I don't remember reading anything about rock monsters whomping people and Noah being a kung fu fighter in the bible.
>>70065397
why?
I can't even hum that shit. And it went on for like 7 fucking minutes.
>>70067922
Given that the Noah story is derived from Babylonian mythology there very well could have been in the first draft
>>70060379
They were paid. Not likely with money but with food and housing.
>>70068007
They didn't even have money proper.
>>70067922
>Noah is a kung fu fighter
I never got that, when he fights in the movie he's slow as hell and heavy because he's an old fuck, but he would know how to fight because the world of that film is fucked up and everyone fights.
>>70068007
They were paid with Nubian sex slaves
>>70059369
good one, anon.
>>70059369
*G-d
>>70064523
hi, /pol/. please go back.
>>70063048
Sinbad isn't GOAT?
What is wrong with it?
>>70063048
I haven't seen sinbad in years so I can't speak for how it holds up today, but I think the first Madagascar is still pretty good. The sequels and spin off series are garbage tho.
>>70060115
>Chicken Run
It was only now when I rewatched it a few days ago that I understood that it was practically an adaptation of The Great Escape
>>70059369
noice
>>70059329
>the greatest animated film of all time?
Why do people shitpost like that? You watched 10 animated films to consider this one the greatest
>>70063740
What denomination were/are you?
>>70060115
at least those How to Train your Dragon movies have been good
>>70060115
does anyone remember the meme about how all the posters had an animated character doing that stupid half-smile? started with Shrek and then dominated all the new posters.
>>70070851
Oh god I can't unsee that now
>>70070673
what do you consider to be the greatest animated film of all time?
>>70070987
for awhile there it was this for animation and orange and blue for action films.
>>70071173
Not him, but Fantasia is one of the very few who can legitimately claim this title
>>70063048
Dude fuck off. Madagascar waa great and had a solid soundtrack for a kids movie.
>>70060115
Sinbad was underrated
>>70071296
lmao you literally contradict your own defense. Sure if you're 6 year-old everything is GREAT
>>70071375
I said it had a solid soundtrack fr a kids movie. This is because movies aimed at children are either musicals or have shitty generic scores.
People often forget that in the original book of Exodus, God had controlled the Pharaoh's mind to oppose Moses.
>>70072009
Exodus 9:12 But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses.
>>70060379
Watch all the dipshits try to tell you how incorrect you are. Research, folks.
>>70061302
Here's the first link I got on Google, you autistic fuck.
http://www.seeker.com/slaves-didnt-build-pyramids-egypt-1764995593.html#news.discovery.com
>>70072009
>>70072259
People also forget God mind-controlled the regular Egyptians into giving all their silver and shit to the Jews when they were leaving.
It's the foundation of the kike's wealth.
>>70060115
Wait Shrek isnt a joke? Its a real movie series that exist?
>>70073563
Is this some form of shitposting, or is it truly ignorance of the magnificence that is Shrek?
>>70072259
This would be considered a claim to legitimacy created by the Jewish writers of the time. That God was so mighty, he could harden the hearts of kings (keep in mind, gods were still disputed at the time between nations and peoples so seeing one God pummel the other(s) was a significant thing)
>>70073797
Like when some of the miracles Moses did were replicated by the Egyptian priests. Only in the movie it was all fake.
>>70073874
It wasn't fake from what I recall, just not as effective.
>>70073911
No they literally just poured some powder into a bowl of water to make it red when nobody was looking and Ramses was all like oh cool, we can do that too!
>>70071291
This.Secret of NIMH, The Thief and the Cobbler RC and Watership Down could be worthy runner-ups
>>70073963
That's something Prince of Egypt did right when Ten Commandments left a little bit confusing.
Moses turns his staff into a serpent, then comes two Priests and their staffs also become serpents, it's not an illusion or anything, they literally become snakes.
However, the whole ''God hardened Pharaoh's heart'' thing in the movie is much more reasonable than what it would normally seen in the Bible, Moses rejects Nefertiri and she says she can harden Ramses if she wants, Moses grabs her head like a walnut and stares into her soul and says:
>Yes, you may be the lovely dusk through which God will work his purpose
And then walks off.Is there a film protagonist more alpha than Charlton Heston as Moses? I swear, that film is like a guide on how to behave like an alpha
>>70070676
7th Day Adventist.
GOAT animation
>>70072259
Its just a dick waving thing jews did
>>70059361
This. Lot of underrated animation like Spirit.
>>70071291
FANTASIA IS FUCKING SHIT.
THE 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY OF ANIMATION AKA FUCKING BORING.
>>70076187
it's bedtime for you, Anon
>>70076229
kill yourself if you think visuals determine the quality of a movie.
Fantasia 2000 is better.
I feel like Dreamworks animation really went to shit when they went to CGI. Though the Kung Fu Panda movies are probably some of the best CGI movies out there, their other CGI movies are awful.
>>70076445
>2000
>better
>Bethoven's 5th as Absolute music
>B's5th as the Toccada and Fugue equivalent even though nothing about it is abstract
>Pines of Rome
>with that fucking stupid baby Whale storyline
>that entire Piano Concert #2 segment where the music is horribly unfitting to the animation
>that segment before PC#2 where we see other segments that would've been so much fucking better than the Steadfast Tin Soldier
>literally only using the last 3 minutes of Carnival of animals
Rhapsody in Blue, Pomp and Circumstance and Firebird are God-tier though, definately Fantasia worthy.
>>70076571
>How To Train Your Dragon is awful
>Shrek 1 and 2 are awful
>>70076643
Should have just done Pictures at an Exhibition and the Firebird
>>70072009
All this time I thought it was just another way of saying "And Pharaoh decided to be a dick"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKcObpflMf8
>>70076918
>those last few frames of this gif
The phrase ''We never see the pharaoh after this scene, I'll just assume Moses killed him'' immediately came to mind.
Which is from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAp1p6ETdTc
>>70076654
How to Train Your Dragon was average, not great.
The Shrek series is terrible.
So how was Exodus Gods and Kings? Seemed like there was no big deal over it other than the media going nuts about ''white washing'' and ''making the hero look american against the villian who looks Egyptian''
>>70060115
I consider the oscars partially responsible for this. They didn't gave any atention to Dreamworks when it put on an effort. And the "kidzzzz" movies make so much more money. If Disney/Pixar farts, it receives an Oscar, but no matter how hard Dreamworks tries, it almost never does. It's a fucking shame.
>>70077605
Oops, I forgot that Monsters vs. Aliens existed. That was pretty good.
>>70078303
I hear KFP3 even failed to print money in China the way they were hoping.
>>70063419
Weren't they so hands on that it really got on Aardman's nerves and they got a divorce before making all of the agreed upon movies.
>>70078841
That could be it because I remember Nick Park being glad he was free from Dreamworks and them calling every 5 minutes.
Have they made anything since Matter of Life and Bread? it's been a long while since the last Wallace and Gromit short
>>70059369
>>70075316
>That's something Prince of Egypt did right when Ten Commandments left a little bit confusing.
>Moses turns his staff into a serpent, then comes two Priests and their staffs also become serpents, it's not an illusion or anything, they literally become snakes.
In the Bible the Pharaoh's priests really could do some of the same miracles as Moses, so Ten Commandments is the one that got it right.
>>70060115
Kung fu Panda, How to train your Dragon and The Croods are all based as fuck.
>>70063544
I watched it within the last 2 months. It is still very good. Definitely dreamworks best, except maybe El Dorado.
>>70076643
Pretty much my opinion with fantasia 2000.
I still like it, but the original had a way more solid selection, even if it was harder to digest.
I dont get all the praise that how to train your dragon gets both in this board and out of it.
I thought it was pretty fucking bland.
>>70081465
Don't you like dragons, anon?
>>70081626
The dragons in this film were too goofy for me liking the movie solely on them.
i expected the egyptian gods to show up and battle the moses god. what a let down
>>70060115
Man, that really puts it in perspective for me. They basically never made anything good after Flushed Away except for maybe Megamind. Yet so many of their early movies were among my favorites as a kid. They really did peak early I guess.
>>70059369
>OP: How did a company that isn't Disney or Pixar manage to make the greatest animated film of all time?
>Anon: By having god-tier scource material
haha
>>70059329
Because it wasn't made by Disney
>>70081355
Why did critics tear into El Dorado? It's a great movie, the ending could've been better, but I don't know how else it could've ended.
I really wish we were able to get those proposed sequels and the cast soundtrack.
>>70084405
Basically Disney said that El Dorado was made from stolen early scripts for The Emperor's New Groove, so they paid critics to trash the movie.
>>70060533
>opinions
>>70084455
>It's always a conspiracy, Disney s always paying everybody
Of course, for making this very post I'm being paid by Disney too
>>70065604
I don't know what movie you are talking about, but angels are described as super weird in the bible, magic rock people sounds better than winged humanoid.
>>70084405
Dude, it's just a fucking "things happen" movie.
The characters literally have nothing to do with the story or plot until the very last fucking second and, even then, they're just a mild convenience.
>>70059329
I don't mean to start shit, but I think Prince of Egypt is just a little bit too uneven to be considered the greatest animated film.
I dunno.
>>70082137
newfag: the post
>>70085577
It's mediocre and watching it without the series leaves you completely lost. There's always that one faggot posting End of Evangelion whenever he can.
>>70059369
>>70085541
You don't mean to start shit? Come on, it's the OP and it gets more attention, but only a pleb would think that something as banal as POE is the greatest animated film. There's no need to worry, and of course what you posted is a way worthier film.
>>70059329
y'all motherfuckers better be listening to this while reading this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WKN0XF8-3Q
>>70085703
>watching it without the series leaves you completely lost
probably because it's literally the final two episodes of the series from a different point of view compressed into a movie?
In what way is it "mediocre", as autistic as it sounds, EoE is probably one of the only movies I can think of that you either have a negative reaction to or a positive one.
>>70085703
It's far from mediocre and only a complete retard would watch it without the series.
>>70085791
>>70085793
>in order to watch this hour and an half greatest animation ever you have to watch the 26 episode anime in 4:3 that aired two decades ago
Yeah man, fuck your anime shit. Japanese animation will never be on par with the West.
>>70085868
ahaha yes very good
>>70085765
>Composer Hans Zimmer has announced that he is through scoring superhero movies.
>Zimmer, who most recently worked on Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, made his retirement from the genre known during an episode of BBC HARDtalk.
>"I did Batman Begins with Chris [Nolan] 12 years ago, so The Dark Knight Trilogy might be three movies to you, to me it was 11 years of my life," he said. "[Batman v Superman] was very hard for me to do, to try to find new language."
capeshit broke down the greatest movie composer of our time
>>70085868
>this post
>>70085920
>>70085979
Suppose I win.
>>70060379
The semitic peoples that would become a component of the proto-Hebraic cultural identity almost certainly fucked around in Egypt for awhile, going from a position of wealthy elites to a working class within a handful of generations.
>>70085176
It's still a great movie.
>>70086014
Oh, sure, you won, whatever it is you think you won.
A bigger victory though, is the one of the series and the film, which won't have another retard watching them.
>>70085868
>Japanese animation will never be on par with the West.
AMERICAN ANIMATION WILL NEVER BE ON PAR WITH JAPANESE. FUCK YOU.
>>70086155
>>70086181
>NGE fans and weebs on suicide watch
>>70086181
bak to >>>/a/ with you dumb weeb
That's not Iron Giant
>>70086211
>>70086283
It's a fact, you fucking retard.
Animation will never be respected in America because Hollywood retards see it as a genre instead of a tool. Ironically, Disney Studios is to blame.
Walt is probably rolling in his cryogenic chamber because he was deadset on trying to get people to respect animation as a medium.
Animation in America is seen specifically for kids, and when it's not it's super edgy and aimed at slightly older kids.
>>70086357
>fact
>
>>70075316
>then comes two Priests and their staffs also become serpents, it's not an illusion or anything, they literally become snakes.
they hit their staffs against each other and conjured a flash, then they were holding snakes when you could see shit again
it was blatantly stage magic(emphasized at the end where one of thr priests go "they love it" to the other like a typical performer)
you must not have watched it recently or you have very poor comprehension
>>70086181
>>70086181
Ugh, underage tourist season.
>>70060115
>GOD TIER
How to Train Your Dragon 1
The Prince of Egypt
Shrek
Kung Fu Panda
>GOOD TIER
El Dorado
Shrek 2
Antz
Madagascar
Chicken Run
Over The Hedge
Flushed Away
>MEH TIER
How to Train Your Dragon 2
Rise of the Guardians
Shrek 3
Shrek Forever After
Bee Movie
>haven't seen
the rest
>>70086612
>thought KFP was God Tier but hasnt seen 2 yet
D
U
D
E
>>70086668
Sorry. is it good? I heard it was good
>>70086723
It's really really good, it's really pretty, has great choreography and the best western animated villian I think i've ever seen.
>>70059329
It's not even the best animated film that came out in 1998.
How to Train Your Dragon is easily the best thing DreamWorks has ever done, as well as the best animated film of the decade. This is objective fact.
>dat soundtrack
>>70060115
>god tier
prince of egypt
how to train your dragon
kung fu panda 2
>good tier
the road to el dorado
shrek
how to train your dragon 2
kung fu panda 1 & 3
megamind
>ok tier
antz
madagascar
>i remember watching it at one point but completely forgot everything about it tier
shark tale
sinbad
>shit tier
the schrek sequels and spin-off
madagascar 2 & 3
>haven't seen tier
the rest
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY
>>70086864
HTTYD is top 5 Dreamworks, but not the best. And about being the best in this decade, well, it's not being a great decade for animation. I don't remember anything fantastic, outstanding: Ghibli's best is Kaguya, there's Inside Out and Toy Story 3 from Pixar, L'Illusionniste, Rango and Anomalisa. Probably the weakest animated decade since the 80's
>>70085868
>implying any western animation will ever come close to prime-Oshii
>>70060115
FLUSHED AWAY
EL DORADO
CURSE OF THE WERE RABBIT
KUNG FU PANDA
DRAGONS 1
PUSS IN BOOTS
SHREK 1
Those are the only ones i like from that list
>>70063740
As a Catholic, its probably the best advertisement for religion I've seen
>>70063125
Seriously, god fucking damn was a cast.
