Would the Ghost in the Shell film be better if they cast an asian actress as Motoko?
>>70051461
Considering Motoko's body design is American, probably not.
>>70051461
Cast pic related instead
>>70051461
no.
>>70051461
Asians can't act.
>>70051461
japs can't act for shit
scarjo is gonna fucking ace this
>>70051461
Japs are only one step above Nigerians as the worst actors on the planet.
>>70051659
Too bad Scarjo can't either, she isn't even the hottest girl in her franchise anymore
>>70051461
The fait it'll be shit isn't related to Scarjo's ethnicity. It's just that she's hurtful ugly.
maybe. She's a horrid actress though.
>anime
unless you're under 18 kys
>>70051851
Jesus Christ, she's a cutie
Why doesn't Hollywood work it's meme magic on her and give her a 10/10 body?
>>70051461
No, it always would be shit.
You can't adapt "anime" without totally changing it, it just doesn't work.
>>70051909
>anyone on /tv/ being over 17
>>70051461
Of course not, I am actually glad they casted SJ as Motoko because her "acting skills" will certainly help to make the movie a huge flop and will serve as detriment for hollywood to adapt more anime properties. Though if is ended up as good as edge of tomorrow then get ready for the animekino phase of Hollywood.
Wayyyyyyyyyy to flat
>>70051461
No as it's wholly unnecessary to make a live-action adaptation.
>>70051517
This. Why people are having so much trouble with this, I do not understand.
It's like this specific detail straight from the series is being immediately discarded, it's baffling.
>>70051461
Motoko's cyborg body is supposed to be fairly androgynous, aside from the fuck huge tits.
Scarjo is way too fat and way too soft. You would need a chick with the body of Emily Blunt and an asian face to be the perfect Motoko.
Also, adaptation when?
>>70051642
>that disgusting motion blur filter
Blu Ray remasters are a fucking joke
>>70052960
Ghost in the Shell 2.0 is a disgrace tbqhfamilia
>>70051461
better question:
will the adaptation even name the major as motoko?
>>70051461
It would instill in me a degree of confidence that the production had a modicum of respect for the source material. I'm not sure if that means it would be "better", but at the least I'd be more receptive to the idea of it.
They can Americanize it all they want. They can change its setting to LA or Seattle or Omaha, Nebraska if they feel like it, but the Major and at least a portion of the Section 9 crew should be cast with Asian actors.
>>70051517
Who popularized this idea that the Major's body is Caucasian? It seems like a synthesis of the ideas that she can have different bodies and that her "normal" body is a standard human design rather than a custom build that someone thought up to undermine the opposition to Johansson's casting. Is it impossible for some out there to believe that the standard body-types for Japanese cyborgs would be Asian?
>>70053037
This.
It's like naming a white dude Shaquille
>>70051620
Is there any role she's NOT perfect for?
>>70053058
She resembles the caucasian structure the most, not even in cartoony way but in semi realistic way as is the style of the anime.
Motoko in the 1995 movie was a white woman with black hair and blue eyes.
The movie will probably be a failure anyway.
>>70053058
>Who popularized this idea that the Major's body is Caucasian?
Masamune Shirow had a fetish for white girls and dark skinned guys (not even kidding), and much of his racier material reflects this.
A lot of it is depictions of white girls being railed by various depictions of black-skinned men, or monsters, or in some weird kink situations.
I'd say the origination of the "westernized" body type is from the creator of the source material himself.
>>70051517
anime character aren't made to look like real people retard
>>70051517
>>70054341
Incorrect.
I don't care who it is as long as it's not jewhansson
>>70054886
Are you retarded or you just don't understand how human physiognomy works?
>>70053058
If Japan made cyborg bodies right now they'd probably be white.
>>70055101
It's anime, you don't need physiognomy, you just need to follow the stories to find out you're wrong, but it seems you're simply too fucking stupid for that.
>>70055245
When casting a movie, shouldn't likeness be the determining factor for a character?
>>70051620
P E R F E C T
>>70051461
>Would the Ghost in the Shell film be better if they cast an asian actress as Motoko?
Oh god no.
Have you seen the shitfest that is our live action adaptation of Attack on Titan? It's fucking unwatchable.
I'm glad hollywood is doing this movie right with Scarjo instead of another attack on titan fiasco.
That shit was just embarrasing to the industry...
>>70055313
No. A shit actor/actress who's a very good likeness would be a bad choice, just like a great actor/actress from an entirely different race than the character would be. I mean, I'm sure some people celebrate this as progressive, just like Elba in the Dark Tower movie but for fans this just shits on the lore of the source material and for no good reason.
>>70055245
>draw someone with clearly unique caucasoid features
>go as far as giving them blue eyes
>S-she is 100% pure japanese g-guys!
Seems obvious that you are just retarded.
>>70051461
No. Japs don't give a shit either, only Americanized asians and white SJW japanophiles.
>>70055611
What's this?
>>70055611
top is way better
>>70055592
There is a Japanese youtube channel where they interviewed random people on the streets and they all agreed that a white woman would fit more for Motoko and that white people in general looked more like Anime protagonists than Asians. Only obsessed Japanophiles and SJW with an obvious agenda will deny this.
>>70055592
>GITS is the only anime I've ever seen
>blue eyes are huge deal in a world where body mods are as common as tattoos now
>S-she is 100% not japanese g-guys!
Why don't you just do the world a favor and stop using the internet forever? You are dumber than a piece of shit, and not even in the funny kind of way.
NO, every live action looks wrong when actors are not white
>>70055611
That's a bad posture.
So much for athletic android.
>>70051461
You know, if they had cast a chink or Korean for the role, JAPAN would have been up in arms.
>>70055788
10 simple steps to improve your life and the life of everybody else around you:
1) Close /tv/
2) Go to your bathtub
3) Open the water
4) Let it fill
5) Go to the kitchen
6) Take a knife
7) Enter the bathtub
8) Use the knife to open your veins
9) Down the road not across the street
10) Stay quiet, soon your pain will disappear
>>70055592
in what world do anime characters look like real people?
>>70055788
>>70056207
>>70055356
I dig it.
>>70056237
>>70051461
Whats her americanized name going to be? Cindy? Fuck it just give the money to the japs and let them do it.
>>70056237
oh my god, those drawings do not look like real people you fucking retard
>>70056317
>>70056351
>>70056317
its another we wuzz anime episode from /pol/
>>70051461
No, the movie will be awful no matter who they cast. Anime shit should never be made live-action it just looks fucking awful
>>70056237
>>70056317
Nardo and Pinkshit are not Japanese though
>>70056351
kek this one is pretty convincing, tho
>>70056351
fuck off zainichi
>>70056317
Light is Japanese which just further helps hammer home that Motoko too is supposed to be Japanese, even if you can cherry pick some random image where a white person looks like a frame from a movie or the shows. I hope that's what you meant to illustrate because otherwise you'd look really stupid right now.
>>70056389
This is how an actual japanese male is presented in the very same Ghost in the Shell series.
The know how to draw themselves, they just prefer to draw white people because the Japanese are obsessed with whites and white features.
>hurr durr they draw caucasoid features because for them it is the standard Japanese human being and we are being biased to not see obvious Asian people on them
>>70055611
hunchback
>>70056651
no, they're just lazy artists that rarely think about real people when they draw their characters
>>70056651
>This is how an actual japanese male is presented in the very same Ghost in the Shell series.
Here's another actual japanese male in the very same Ghost in the Shell series.
>>70056767
Yet in this work, they think about them enough to make them distinguishable when it's appropriate.
That anon's example is all ready a counterexample of what you're claiming.
>>70056840
A japanese male of a caucasoid race in any case.
>>70056926
Source?
>>70056879
>Yet in this work, they think about them enough to make them distinguishable when it's appropriate.
no they don't just look at >>70056840
and now look at>>70056651
their characters are always inconsistent. didn't you ever wonder why some characters have noses and others don't?
This guy for example looks like your average japanese male, doesn't he? After all anybody on any Anime made in Japan HAS to be Asiatic. Hell, he could even pass as a Vietnamite farmer now that I'm starting to drink the SJW kool-aid.
>>70057062
>inconsistent
If by inconsistent in this case you mean don't all look the same, then yes. That's a good thing, unless you're obsessed with endless retread moe fapbait.
>>70057085
It doesn't matter what he looks like to you. It matters what he is. And he is a jap.
>>70057247
He is a white race Japanese.
>>70057176
Jesus Christ you're stupid, look at the noses and tell me what you see
>>70057314
Where's your source for this?
>>70057354
Different shaped noses, obviously.
Exactly where are you on the spectrum?
>>70057416
now look the majors nose and compare it to the others
>>70057453
Make your point.
If you draw someone who resembles more the average caucasian than the average asian (mongoloid), the chances are that if you have to cast someone for that role with real human beings, the more close to the original draw in terms of features will come from a caucasian person. How is this so hard to understand?
>>70057372
Having an IQ over two digits.
>>70056389
>faggot weeb chink faggot in deep denial
>>70057354
Jesus Christ, why are people comparing Japanese males of any age to the Major as some kind of ethnicity ltmus test are you fucking retarded, find another Japanese woman in the show then you'll have a fucking point, every GODDAMN THREAD.
>>70057487
her nose isn't human looking
>>70057537
That's not a source, that's an illusion very far from reality, my dumb little anon. So do you have a source?
>>70057572
Her and about 80% of anime characters?
>>70057648
exactly
>>70057661
So your point is what?
That anime characters can only be portrayed by non humans in live action?
>>70057630
He looks more like the drawn version of a white person than the drawn version of an Asian person. He looks like the archetypal Canadian lumberjack.
It's common sense.
>>70057747
that most anime characters aren't modeled after any specific race when they're made
>>70057795
They are actually.
If you draw humans you have to draw facial features on them, giving them a general appearence of belonging to one racial group or another.
>>70057747
No, dumbass. His point is that for live action the story is what matters, not some low detail drawings because they are idealized and not meant to be accurate humans.
>>70057795
I doiubt that. Its more likely they model some generically and others heavily racially profiled. For source see any depiction of any black guy in any anime ever.
The major looking generic suits the fact she has an artificial body.
lol@all the weebs in denial
>>70057788
That's still not a source, anon. It's a very simple word, you should look it up if you don't know what it means.
>>70057865
most of the time they give everyone white hair and marbled sized eyes, what race has those genetic features?
>>70057865
What race has trianglular noses that end in a sharp as a knife point?
>>70057956
>>70057963
What human race comes to your mind when you see this? >>70057085
You guys are being delusional.
>>70058061
what human race comes to your mind when you see pic related?
these are clearly Irish people with Irish features.
>>70058061
Canadian, maybe.
Now answer my question about sharp as knives noses and to what race they belong.
>>70057963
If we are trying to cast them with real life actors the chances are that the closest in appearance to them will be some white actors.
>>70058197
I don't really know of any humans with knife nose but OK.
>>70058149
Whites.
>>70058263
Got some pictures of noses as sharp as knives?
No, because then no one would even care about the film at all and it would be a gigantic flop. Only because ScarJo is in it is it getting any attention.
>>70058142
>what human race comes to your mind when you see pic related?
White people, of course, like this >>70054381
>>70054341 . And this >>70056651 is obviously an asian
You see, the drawings in cartoons and animes might be "hyperbolic" or exaggerated but they still possess enough general traits that you can identify with real human beings.
>>70058292
Not literally as knife but whites have the sharpest noses of all races.
>>70058333
Wasn't Pazu Chinese?
>>70058380
Well then its not acceptable for them to play the major. Knife washing.
>>70051620
who is she?
>>70058248
I don't know of any humans with the nose of Peter Griffin either but you just can't cast him as a black guy in a real life casting because his original features are cartoonish.
Holy fuck I hope this fails
>more anime adaptations get produced
>both /tv/ and /a/ are ruined by it
>>70057085
Like Ainu.
>>70058456
Are you equating casting a black Peter Griffin to a White Major?
>>70058396
As I said, he is obviously Asian.
>>70052917
>specifically mentions the Major's tits
>Blunt has none, ScarJo does and boy does she
>calls ScarJo fat
Nigga you gay
>>70056651
>>70056840
>>70057085
now show us the female designs
>>70058517
Yeah, but the Japanese tend to emphasise the Asian features of non Japanese. Not saying I think that ScarJo casting matters, but strictly speaking, to the Japanese they don't see themselves as looking Chinese.
>>70058648
then they should get punched in the face for that, because they look almost the same
>>70058692
You say that as an outsider, but yeah I tend to agree. But its no different to how in American cartoons they depict Brits and Irish as different to the norm.
>>70058442
Antje Traue
>>70058380
Specially white-jewish mixes have the sharpest noses.
>>70055611
god this is a shitty casting there is like 100 better actors for this role
no it would have been better if they picked a better director though
>>70058514
Yes.
And I'm following your reasoning. (which I don't share)
>>70054341
>>70054381
Cast her as Motoko.
>>70055611
I want to kill ScarJo I'm sick of seeing her in movies, she has the face of a retard and the acting skills of a toddler
>>70058901
You're dumb as fuck.
>>70051517
This.
Pretty much everyone else on the movie looks more Japanese than Motoko.
Still ScarJo is not the right choice if you're going to cast an American actor, but at least they didn't cast another Katniss wannabe.
>>70058948
>fatneckbeard.jpg
>>70058977
Exactly, that's because I was following your dumb reasoning.
You say cartoon or anime features aren't real thus you can't tell what race are they.
Would you portray Peter Griffin as a black guy in a real life adaptation? After all you don't know what race he is because he is just a bad drawn cartoon and "nobody has a nose like him in real life".
You dumb dumbfuck.
>>70059175
So therefore the android body should!d be played by a nip?
How so?
>>70059223
You have to be literally mentally retarded.
>>70059283
To say its OK for any race to play an artificial body of no distinct race....?
>>70058939
I wonder if her acting is any decent. Sometimes musicians can be good actors, and she has the look for movies, but if she were talented you'd think she'd be in movies already.
>>70059700
Maybe she just has no desire for it?
Not every actor wants to sing, not every singer wants to act.
>>70057926
If you think anyone is going to dive into that piece of shit show and research one side characters fictional family tree. Particularly when the dudes race is apparent you're a silly little man.
>>70059223
Do you think a completely asian looking guy called Jürgen Schweinsteiger would never ever get questions about where he's from and how did he come to have that name when it looks like he has no germanic ancestry whatsoever?
This is the most convenient small talk, but this never happens for the major, no matter who she introduces herself to. That just makes no sense unless she's meant to look canonically Japanese. Same for the rest of section 9.
>>70060000
No, that shit never happens because it would be rude and dull as fuck.
She has an android body, that is Canon. That android body could depict any race and her drawing doesn't lookJapanese, it looks generic raceless anime.
>>70059867
It's a stylized cartoon. Does >>70055788 look asian to you? Because he is. And unless you can prove Togusa isn't, there is no reason to assume otherwise, because this is very common with anime. It's okay to be ignorant and dumb as all fuck, just don't try to get into arguments then.
>>70060229
Beard
No Japanese has a beard that epic.
>>70060170
>it's rude to ask someone where they're from
Jesus fuck, anon. Go outside sometime.
But yeah, John Boyega should totally be cast as major Kusanagi. It's an android after all so it doesn't matter. You win.
>>70056351
>>70056237
This shit is so over generalized and selfservingto theAmerican ego. Anime and manga characters arent modeled after Caucasians specifically at all, they are modeled after a generic 'doll-like' beauty stylization - as are most cartoons in general. Whats more, there are plenty of Japanese that look nothing like those racist depictions and many could out compete westerners in terms of beauty.
>>70060423
Well considering a major theme of GiTS Is the matter of identity, the self and the meaning of what it is to be human, I would literally not give a shit about that and nor should you if it played into the themes.
>>70060450
>racist depictions
you're a fucking idiot.
>>70058333
>they still possess enough general traits that you can identify with real human beings.
>>70051461
Johanson is half asian tho.
>>70060229
You're mistaking me for someone else, I have no interesting in arguing with you, I just don't respect you.
>>70060450
Anime is modeled after white doll-like beauty though.
>she's incredible meth
What did they mean by this?
>>70052198
3rd wave feminists complaining about something they have absolutely no knowledge of as usual.
>HOW DARE ANYONE BE WHIIIIIIIIITE
>>70051461
>>70051461
It'd be better if Hollywood were nowhere near it.
