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>Marveldrones will defend this
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How the fuck did she not at least lose her hearing?
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Yeah, that did get to me. She runs at 10 armed men and survives somehow. She's a superhero without powers. Maybe her power is luck. Yawn.
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So how did she survive a grenade blast in an enclosed space like that?
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>>70047003
>travelling on a bike at a fast speed.
>is somehow able to overcome inertia, stand up and run, and fight without loss of balance
>the grenade waits to go off for a long time.
This looks awful
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>>70047003
This reminds me of kids movies where the children have super awesome spy moves and they beat up the evil grown ups.
Does anyone actually like scenes where puny women do gymnastics and beat up ten 200lb soldiers?
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>>70047003
>run into 10+ fully armed men with assaultrifles
>not a single bullet fired
capeshit needs to die already
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>>70047397
Whoa son, can't have people dying in superhero movies. That would upset the kids and hardcore fans. Who wants realism when you can have your favorite hero win?
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>>70047334
>This reminds me of kids movies where the people have super awesome super powers and beat up evil monsters. Does anyone actually like scenes where puny humans do gymnastics and beat up half ton green giants?
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>>70047397
It's like they don't understand that if you are armed and you think there is an aproaching threat and are not sure if they are armed or not, the last thing you would do would be to blindly run around a corner straight towards that threat.
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>>70047003
Superhero films (Yes, DC too) are all fun action flicks with a bit of heart thrown in there too. If you're looking for that, you'll have a great time, if you're looking for anything more than that, of course you're gonna be disappointed.
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The whole "no guns" thing really does get silly after a point. It makes sense for Batman because it's an ideological battle and he's a street level urban brawler but isn't this chick a super spy and an assassin? Her task is to engage a squad of like 10 dude all armed with high powered rifles and full battle tech and she has to punch and flip and hurricarana them all to unconsciousness because.... because... superheroes hate fair fights?
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>>70047550
>fun action flicks

That wasn't fun though, it was boring, a skinny woman runs into a group of heavily armed men, ohh gee I wonder what's going to happen, snore.
There's no tension or stakes whatsoever.
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>>70047553
She's shot guns in other movies. Avengers for example, I'm pretty sure the Winter Soldier too.
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>>70047003

>shakeycam
>awful editing of shots that last less than 1 second
>Shitty transitions between ScarJo and obvious stunt double

And people say the Russos make good action scenes? The first half of CW was jarring as fuck
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>>70047469

Yeah I know, it's bad enough that 11 people died during Loki's invasion of New York City, and 6 people died in Sokovia. Fucking animals.
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>>70047003
>hit front brake
>lowsiding like that
>in squid gear
ok
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>>70047737
Who cares about people that aren't the main cast of heroes? I only care about sexy black widow.
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>is not supersoldier
>takes out a bunch of guys in combat armor by punching them once
>acrobatics!
>that guy she hits with the van door who stays down

yes, i get your point
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the only thing i liked about civil war was johannsen's exerting shouts.

like whenever she's in a fight she'll go "hwuah HWUAH HAAH, HWUAAH"

was pretty hot
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>>70047287
did rumlow just try to kill his own guys, or would they have survived the blast? this scene was edited in a fucking blender
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>>70047003
That was awful and reminded me of Power Rangers
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>>70047668
The way the action was filmed and edited was shit. Especially how much of it was sped up in post production. While the choreography is probably better in Civil War, I honestly much preferred how the action in Age of Ultron was filmed.
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>>70047880
>that cgi
fucking hell that is horrendous
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i fucking hate how some of the extras in capeshit only get hit by a halfass punch thrown in a quick sequence where the "hero" beats 5 enemies in 2 seconds then said extra stays down ... because what exactly? they lay there like theyre dead and they never get up
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>>70047287
Frag grenade kills by launching tiny pieces of metal into the air. In theory, if she quickly hid behind one of the guys she would be mostly fine. I have to assume her hearing would be totally gone though.
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>>70047905
The CGI isn't that bad, some of it definitely was rushed though.
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>>70047737
tops keks
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>>70047880
>>70047905
That scene is great. I never even payed attention to it when I saw the movie.
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>>70047003 (OP)
>see grenade
>"Oh shit, BW is beyond fucked."
>she simply uses some dude as a shield and survives the concussive shock wave because reasons
O-Okay.
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>>70047918
Because that 6'3 200lb soldier in full gear/goggles was punched by a skinny white girl, he's obviously out for the count and will stay down longer than a ko in ufc.
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>>70047880
pause at 0.3 seconds and obviously thats not scarjo. LOL!!
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>>70047287
She used the other guy, with his body armor to protect her from the shrapnel. The amount of HE isn't really that big.
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>>70047550
>Mcuck damage control over time when everyone begins to figure out BvS is superior to all capeshit ever made while Civil War is forgettable trash made by Jews who's only interest is to make something that generates as much profit as possible which mean appeal to the lowest common denominator even if it means making a shit movie

Gee who could have seen any of this coming
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>>70047880
Yeah it's alright. Looks fake as fuck though.
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>>70047003
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I liked the movie but this scene was dumb.
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The most hilarious part of that scene is that the frag grenade makes a ticking time bomb noise before it goes off, like Marvel thought the audience needed to be reminded that grenades explode.

It was so fucking bizarre.
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>grown men pay money to watch this
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>little gay wrist shockers dont do shit to crossbones
>easily fucks the visions shit up
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>>70047003
I knew some faggot from /tv/ would complain about it.
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>>70047003

Shit editing. Can't follow the action.
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>>70048358
Good thing you were prepared to defend her honor then?
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>>70047880
>tfw they couldn't even dye the stuntwoman's hair the same colour as Black Widows.
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>>70047839
I dont know if youve realized but villains generally arent loyal or kind to their subordinates
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>>70047397

superhero movies are fun. that's all that matters. don't question it.
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>>70047003

She's Russian. 'nuff said
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>>70047003
Haha Marvel is finished! Thank you Snyder!
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>>70048259

why do the bad guys just stand with their arms at their sides while she punches then?
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>>70047003

ROCK BOTTOM ROCK BOTTOM ROCK BOTTOM
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>>70047003
>marveldrones
>BvS:DoJ
>Batman doesn't kill
>Kills in movie

neither brands are perfect
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Black Widow is my favorite Revenger
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>>70048687
they're too busy having erections from being beat up by scarlet johannson
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>>70048453
Why do people care about nip slips of actresses who have done nudes?
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>Stunt double that looks absolutely nothing like the actress.
Fucking hell really Marvel.
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>>70048747
Gonna need some sauce on that
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>>70048747
Why is she so much hotter in this than in the Marvel movies?
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>>70047003
I'm glad that they got rid of the motion blur and made this movie look as shitty as possible. It's like how venomous snakes and frogs use bright colors to signal that consuming them would be a mistake.
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>>70048827
It was the SNL skit she was in

>>70048832
Probably because she's cute and fun instead of dour and intense
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>>70047003
>villain's henchmen WATCH HIM DROP A GRENADE INTO THE VAN WITH THEM IN IT
>still fight for him against black widow

what the fuck, why? were they autistic?
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>>70047168
>She's a superhero without powers.

still a superhero. she's not supposed to be a realistic human being any more than, say, batman.

>>70047880
this is legitimately atrocious though
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>>70048993
>not know that villains recruit autists to kill each other to drop autist count worldwide
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>>70049092
>she's not supposed to be a realistic human being any more than, say, batman.

Batman at least went through the effort of training his body to it's peak abilities in order to have a chance in these situations, she just looks like a typical skinny model etc.
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>>70047003
As far as action sequences go, that's pretty well shot. The camera is fairly steady. They also manage to keep action/reaction in the same frame, rather than cutting away for the reaction.
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I thought Black Widow was injected with some kind of bootleg super soldier serum
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>>70049373
>Natasha has received the Red Room's variant of the Super-Soldier Serum. As a result, her physical and mental abilities have been psycho-chemically enhanced beyond human limits. She is classified as a Superhuman.
Your right, she's like a different case of Captain America.
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>>70048521
yeah, but they didn't seem upset at all, they continued to attack her, sarcasticfedora-anon
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>>70049373
Nah, not in the movies. She's just been trained from birth to be a spy/assassin.
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>>70049434
They specifically show her being taken to some sort of surgery shit in her flashbacks.
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>>70049424
That's the comics, not the movies.
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>>70049466
Which she explains: they removed her ability to have kids.
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>>70049515
Eh, they probably hit her with some super juice while she was under.
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>>70049552
If they did, they would have mentioned it.
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Meanwhile nobody complains about Hardcore Henry being unrealistic

Oh wait, that was made by slavs and has ugly fake slav titties, carry on
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>>70047927
theres still a super high energy concussive wave from the explosion
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>People keep saying she's just some normal person.

First off, she's a superhero, so we can at minimum expect Batman levels of performance. But the Russo brothers aren't Joss Whedon levels of moron. While they haven't said it outright the Widow they write for/direct is many times stronger/faster/better than Whedon/Favreau's Widow. Pretty sure she has some Russian surgery equivalent to Cap's formula. I mean, Bucky does superhuman shit but his only gimmick is some robot arm? Unlikely he doesn't have other improvements.
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>>70047003
>She has had romantic relationships with Hawkeye, Daredevil, and Captain America (Barnes)
Is Black Widow slut?
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>>70049735
>First off, she's a superhero, so we can at minimum expect Batman levels of performance.
Exactly. It really doesn't matter that she doesn't have powers. Batman doesn't have powers.
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What is her fucking superpower? Clearly she has one. 1 v 10??
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>>70049892
>Batman doesn't have powers
Well super-intelligence could be described as super power. Batman is smart on Lex and Dr.Doom level.
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>>70047003
>>70047880

Looks cool, Black Widow is a badass bitch.
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>>70049248
She was trained from birth in a KGB assassin camp for young women.
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>>70047645
She shoots a guy literally in her next action scene after this.
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>>70047737
You'd expect an incident of that scale would at least take a minimum of 10,000 lives.
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>>70047880
aIs this dleted scen?

that lfick is so crammed with bullshit dont even remmeber this in the slightest
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>>70047003
i was always confused when heavily armed guys with guns try to rush at somebody at fist swinging range rather than hold their gun on them
or does she have a super power? I don't know her
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I hate her over complicated take downs, that's my only complain

But fuck, do I hate them. they look stupid as fuck.
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>>70049735
>Pretty sure she has some Russian surgery equivalent to Cap's formula.

She doesn't. She does nothing superhuman here other than willing the goons to not use their rifles.

> I mean, Bucky does superhuman shit but his only gimmick is some robot arm? Unlikely he doesn't have other improvements.

He was experimented on by Zola. He's superhuman.
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>>70049986
She's like James Bond and it will probably be revealed in Infinity Wars that she has taken some sort of supersolder serum variation.
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>>70050215
>supersolder
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>Dottie and Natasha have the same Black Widow fighting style
pottery
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>>70047003
>shaky cam with a bazillion cuts
JUST
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>>70050166
You can cleary see how he lift her whe nshe "grabbed" his arm, average staged show
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>>70050464
everybody knows that literally any time a woman does something, a man had to help her out do it
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>>70048747
SLUT
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How would she work in infinity wars? Thanos would just flick her
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>>70050464
>average staged show
Yes thats what kung-fu demonstrations are.
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>>70050513
The same way she worked in the first 2 avengers movies.
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>>70050276
>this is considered entertainment
these guys need to watch a few more martial arts films to get inspiration
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Yo yo yo

Fuck Marvel manchildren
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>>70050560
>watch a few more martial arts films
Steven Segal plz go
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>>70050598
Easy
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>>70047003
Defend what? Standard blatant stuntwoman routine?
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>>70050598
I wish I was Stevel Segale
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>>70048025
Did you type out (OP) yourself?

kek
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It really offends me that a Jew is allowed to play a Russian Royal.
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>>70048604
They are not entertaining unless you are already into the comics or really want to be hip. Oh, that's the joke.
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>>70050608
EASY!
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>>70048040
>skinny white girl

what's race got to do with it?

are you implying if it were an asian, spic, or nigger, that it would be more realistic? please, goldstein.
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>>70047111
She has two black widow spiders in her ears as hearing protection, C'mon!
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>>70049671
Nobody saw Hardcore Henry though.
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>>70047737
>"What do you mean Superman caused tons of collateral damage?" says Snyder
>"The Empire blew up like, 7 planets in TFA. Billions of deaths right there."
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>>70048747
*parp*
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>>70047003
>Marveldrones will defend this
I know it's missing a blue filter, arbitrary dutch angles and gratuitous lensflare.
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Yeah that was pretty fucking stupid. She always takes me out of the movie.
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>>70047003
>WHERE'S THE JESUS IMAGERY
>WHY ISN'T SHE SNAPPING THEIR NECKS
>THE ENTIRE CITY BLOCK ISN'T DEMOLISHED AFTER THE FIGHT
>NOTHING LIKE MY DC MOVIES, REEEEE
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Straight guy here.
What's the difference between Marvel and DC?
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>>70051162
One is good and the other is shit
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>>70051162
People want DC to be the same as Marvel but with DC characters.
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>>70047003
This webm breaks so many rules of cinema it hurts to watch.
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>>70051221
>rules of cinema
Are those like the rules of eating with different forks and spoons, drinking different wines with different glasses, and other stuff bored white people made up?
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>>70051252
No, it's the like the rules of cinema. Don't bother replying until you've done some studying.
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>>70051277
>the rules of cinema
but this is a movie
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>>70051252
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>>70051277
Cinema isn't a "game" though. Games can have rules, but just telling a story in a visual way isn't a game.
>why is it like this?
>because someone once said they think it looks good this way
isn't a good enough reason for it to be a "rule" or "law"
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>>70050792
Asian women have agility, blacks have strength, white women are useless.
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if there's one thing I learned about this scene is that Russos knows how to handle raw and grounded fight choreography. Anyone who bitching about the shaky-cam and editing should watch movies Taken 3 or Alex cross
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>>70048111
As if BvS's goal was not making profit. As if DC was any different from marvel. Capeshit is capeshit kid, it's meant to be fun and nothing else. For fuck sakes its aimed at kids.
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>>70051434
>The director of Watchmen aims for the kiddy market.
The studio might want a family-friendly story, but DC as a whole doesn't exclusively target kids fanboys. They haven't for a long time.
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>>70047003
I watched this in the cinema. Was it filmed in HFR because it all looked like it was on fast forward.
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>autists who read comics watch terrible tv as well

no shit
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>>70049429
they didnt see it since they were focused on her entering the vehicle
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>>70051371
man i just woke up but its never too early for you autismos ti start spouting off with your retarded opinions
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>>70047003

> fiction about supernaturally gifted heroes
> complains that it's not accurate or feasibly possible


D
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B
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>>70047003
Seems legit to me OP or are the autists coming out because Scar Jo didn't get blowed up...
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>>70048111
Go be irrelevant somewhere else DCuck-
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>>70047927
>>70048100


Didn't the fucking door just blew up? You know how hard you must hit an armored car door to blew it up? Not only the concussive wave would fuck her, but the door bashing would absolutely break her fucking ribs
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>>70047003
Why didn't he shoot?
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>>70050091
And? the best martial artists in the world, who have dedicated their entire life to the profession couldn't do a tenth of what she can and they have far superior bodies. Seriously, what is the p[oint in batman building that muscle mass, and endurance etc if she can do it better without bothering?
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>>70053024
Because it's a fictional movie, and DC and Marvel are not the same universe.
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>>70053024
>This super hero movie isn't realistic
No way man.
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>>70053181
Yeah, Marvel's movies take place in a universe where both people and buildings are far more durable. Wouldn't want to upset anyone.
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>>70053024
>Because it's a fictional movie

So say the next character is some non superpowered 13 year old girl who has been "training since birth" takes out lets say 5 heavily armed/trained guys barehanded, just go with it?
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>>70053244
>This part of the film felt off to me here's why

LOL IT'S A SUPER HERO MOVIE SHUT UP!
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>>70047397
>>70047334

> Pretending that capeshit is different in some way than every other action movie where the hero takes on 20+ evil dudes and doesn't suffer a single injury.

Come on guys, we all know why we liked Die Hard so much back in the day. Just accept that this new generation likes their safe, plot-armored heroics. It can still be fun. Just huff some paint before you watch these movies and you can feel like there is a real sense of danger.

Plus, please don't complain about scarjo in tight suits. She is the only Jew that makes me go hnnng.
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>>70048440

Defending is a little different from not caring. You're looking at the wrong side of things
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>>70047003
I'M TELLING YOU GUYS THE CRITICS ARE PAID
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>120lb girl kicks strong enough to send men flying

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA IT'S JUST FUN BRO!
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>>70056072
Yes anon, superhero movies aren't realistic.
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I thought Black Widow got some version of the super serum.
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>>70056072
It's a comic book movie :) how stupid do you have to be for people needing to explain that to you? She's also five times stronger than most men due to her super serum ;)
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>>70054579
>we all know why we liked Die Hard so much back in the day
>back in the day

Nigga, are you saying you STILL don't love Die Hard?
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>>70056235
>>70056778
OP was right you will always defend this stupid shit
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>>70057093
Defend what?
It's a superhero movie, dumb shit happens.
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>>70048658

So she'll give them all head, marry one, then divorce him to get his money and citizenship?
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>>70054579
Are you suggesting there wasn't a sense of danger in Die Hard?
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>>70052912
>You know how hard you must hit an armored car door to blew it up?
You don't. Force acting on the outside and inside are very different things. If you teleported a submarine from it's max depth into space, it'd explode because the direction of the pressure is reversed.
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>>70051371

Asian women have agility, black women have welfare checks and out of wedlock children, white women pay for these niggers with their tax money.
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>>70047003
So much female empowerment in one scene I feel empowered. And im a man!
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>>70059040
>>70048100
>>70047927
So your saying I can survive a grenades explosion while being in a small metal box? Got it.
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>>70047334
These are kids movies too though. Their primary audience is children and their primary purpose is to sell merchandise to them.
I can still enjoy them in the same way I'd be able to enjoy another light hearted adventure romp.
Haven't seen civil war yet though.
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>>70059040
>It's a "I slept in physics class" episode
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>>70047758
>>>/o/
>>70047003
I was wondering in cinema: why did the bad guys inside the van attack her instead of running the fuck away from a fucking live grenade? That's some dedication to the cause right there lol
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>>70061104
Fucking hell that's horrifying.
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>>70047003
don't be so harsh. it looks almost average for daytime tv
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>>70061209
Go be a contrarian somewhere else, DCuck.
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>>70051028
HE UNIRONICALLY DEFENDED IT HAHAHAHAH
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