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Will fantasy ever reach this level? No. Remember the firs
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Will fantasy ever reach this level? No.

Remember the first time you saw this in cinemas?
>tfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evHF0WRagtc
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>>70031693
>Will fantasy ever reach this level?

Already has
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>>70031724
2/10 not even an effort
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>Waiting a year between movies excited to see the next installment with my family
>after each viewing coming home and jumping on encyclopedia of arda to read up on the lore of LotR
>Buying the extended editions
>watching all the extra content and special features
>seeing how much like a family the fellowship was except for John Rhys-Davies
>being so mad that they cut out the Mouth of Sauron from the theatrical edition

I know RotK was long and had multiple endings but that fucker should've made the cut
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>Who am I gambling?

I still don't know what he meant by this.
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>all this money and technology, and we still can't have elves look uniformly like elves, men of numenor look uniformly numenorean, ect.

Even as a twerp it bugged me that the actors and extras for men and elves were not genetically coherent in comparison to each other. For example, Elrond is clearly not a distinct race from men. The tiara just isn't enough. Aragorn and Boromir are clearly not of a higher genetic line than ordinary men. Throw some grey contacts in them, at least.
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I remember seeing RotK at midnight after watching Fellowship and Two Towers beforehand in the same theater. Was the mest movie going experience in my life.
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>>70031693
I'll never forget it. At first I wasn't that interested for some reason, probably because I was into Star Wars and sci-fi when I was little. Then my dad came back from a showing and said how fantastic it was and took me the next day.
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Lord of the rings peaked too early, just like this 3
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>>70032040

pretty much my teenage years. but as a new zealander, i was sort of obligated to it. don't really like them now though. haven't bothered with the hobbit.

i remember when i saw rotk, there was a guy sitting a seat over from me getting pissed off over the multi-ending shit. as soon as the credits came up, he was out of there.
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OH SHIT

>>70033533
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I totally remember the national mentality when Fellowship came out
>this is faggy

but by the time Return of the King
>TRUE KINO!
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>>70031693
Game of Thrones will end with a movie. It will won't surpass LOTR, but it will match it.
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>>70034317
>it will match it.

haha no
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>>70031693
About to watch the second and third back to back tonight for the very first time. What am I in for?
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>>70033584
Check my 4's
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>>70035108
Great cinema
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>>70035108
8 hours of subtle homo-eroticism
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>>70033004
That sort of thing was shown by Aragorn and Boromire being able to kill dozens of orks and urakhai by themselves.

Like the time where the camera zooms out here and you see how many urks Boromire killed.
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>>70034317
Who even watches Game of Thrones?
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>>70031693
i like soiaaf more than tolkien works, i like tolkien but its too grounded in fantasy to me
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>>70032040
>in 6th grade when FotR comes out
>grandpa takes me to see it
>smuggles in candy bars and shit for us
>got me the Hobbit and the LotR books the Christmas before hand so I could get ready
>takes me again to see Two Towers
>got there an hour and a half early to get the best seats, the lights were on and the credits still rolling from the last showing, ushers sweeping up etc. etc.
>rinse and repeat for RotK
>grandpa got me all the extended editions as they came out
>was a huge movie buff, always talked about movies, recommended movies he knew I'd like
>always talk about LotR as the movies came out
>flashforward to the release of the Hobbit movies
>grandpa is older and sick with advanced stage cirrhosis of the liver
>has to get tons of fluid drained every few weeks
>agonizing last few months
>asks how the Hobbit movies are, knows I saw them
>don't have the heart to tell him
>"They were great grandpa, almost as good as LotR"
>grandpa dies
>go to watch LotR EE trilogy a month or so later, for the first time in years
>cry like a fucking little bitch
>the Ents go to war
>cry even harder

love those movies, but fuck is it hard to watch them these days. Sometimes when I close my eyes, we're still on those theaters, watching those movies, ooohing and aaahing, enthralled in what was going on on the screen. It was like seeing those movies made him a kid again, like we were just to grammar school buddies watching the cartoons at the theater down the block, just like he used to with all his pals.
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>>70031693
Ill never forget the night of LotRK. People booked for the entire trilogy and slept through Fellowship and Two Towers. 23:50 dozens of alarms started ringing.

Nothing will ever even come close to LotR. Yes it had issues, but those issues are so minuscule in the bigger picture that they really look like cherry picking. Its greatest achievement was how real it looked. Jackson didnt need a shit ton of CGI, yet every single element looked like it could exist in the real world. The Orcs in particular, even the Ents. The trilogy was so perfect because it tried to 'keep it real', something no one even bothers with anymore. People just slap CGI on virtually anything which is why they will never be able to reach these heights ever again. At least not until we manage to create CGI that looks exactly like the real thing.
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>>70035607
Right in the feels...

God Bless your grandfather
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>>70034317
I highly doubt a movie wrapping up a tv show that jumped the shark long ago will match LotR.
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>>70031830
>dat pic
So, this is fantasy female character standart today?
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>>70031693
>There will never be another piece from an OST as comfy as that...fuck
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>>70031693
My dad and I read the Hobbit together when I first started reading.

LOTR will always be special to me. I'm pissed hobbit didn't live up to the standard.
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>>70038047
Well, first two Hobbist have a lot of nice moments.
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>>70038047
I have fond memories of reading the Hobbit late at night when I couldn't sleep, by flashlight. One Christmas Eve I was particularly restless and stayed up to the wee hours of the morning reading away while a blizzard came down just outside the window. Talk about maximum comfy. I always conjure up these mental pictures of heavy snow blanketing Lake-town and a hundred coils of smoke lazily rising up to the sky from a hundred little chimneys.
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>>70034317
kek
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>tfw 21 y/o
>tfw just saw the whole LOTR trilogy last year for the first time
>JUST
>i missed out watching this in theaters as a little boy
>JUST
>tfw never be in cinema watching it
>tfw missed out on the best fantasy movies of all time
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>>70036714
>every female I see needs to give me a boner

She's a fucking orc, you virgin
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>>70035442
Yeah but the books take it a step further and have the orcs literally celebrate over having killed boromir. The dude was like a fucking raid boss to them.

I think the orc camp scene in ttt should have broached the subject of how awesome it was to take down a mighty gondorian man. Instead we got meats back on the menu horseshit.
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>>70031693
The lyrics to that song + music is concentrated magic
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>>70034317
I needed that laugh anon. Thank you
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>>70038484
>>every female I see needs to give me a boner
Top fucking kek.
>She's a fucking orc, you virgin
Than why she looks like black whore?
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>>70038444
no lie you really did miss out.

The wonder of seeing it on the big screen as my 11-13 year old self was an experience I wouldnt change for anything.
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>>70035607
>mfw I'll be left sharing some sjw bloated shitfest with my kids/ grandkids
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOulsEGvSCo

Is there a better intro?
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>>70038803
Do you have to ask?
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>>70038778
>not passing down the Hobbit and LotR and all the other fantastic stories (Conan the Barbarian, the rest of Arnoldcore, etc. etc.) to your offspring
>not showing them the way
>not becoming the bard of your own story

take heart, son of Rohan, the Horn of Helm Hammerhand shall sound in the Deep, one last time
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post yfw this happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tgi-j56ueU
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>>70035607
Damn son.

It's true though, I've never seen people bond over movies they way they do over LOTR...
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>>70032779
laughed harder than I should have
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>>70037419
>feels good man
you probably meant feels like just fuck my shit up senpai anon
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>>70036420
everytime
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>>70039398
>It's true though, I've never seen people bond over movies they way they do over LOTR

my friends and I love "memeing" LotR quotes whenever we can, nothing like ripping "A RED DAY, A BLOODY DAY, ER THE SON RISES! DEEAAAATH!" after several beers
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What were expectations like for these movies in the states prior to their release?
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>>70039398
Normalfags bond over Star Wars a lot, or at least pretend to
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>>70036714
Eowyn is so noble, and also a total QT
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>>70039765
>tfw no blonde qt 3.14 shieldmaiden gf who would die in battle for your people
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>>70031693
LotR is the grandfather of modern fantasy, and the movies were top tier.

There's just nothing from this point on that could ever touch it because fantasy is either far too Tolkien based or it tries too hard to be original and ends up being shit because of it
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>>70039535
Don't you mean "A red day, a SWORD day"?
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No. It won't.

Tolkien literally invented modern fantasy.

Everything from DnD to Elder Scrolls licks up his leftovers and parrots the echoes of his work in endlessly rehashed dumbed-down versions. The entire fantasy genre is grotesquely derivative of Tolkien, to the point where most authors don't even bother inventing their own creatures, they just default straight or Elves, orcs, and dwarves.
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>>70039043
>not passing down the Hobbit and LotR and all the other fantastic stories (Conan the Barbarian, the rest of Arnoldcore, etc. etc.) to your offspring
I wanted to give my third-grader niece a copy of the Hobbit but my sister said she's too young to read stuff like that.
My dad dropped LoTR on me when I was that age. Are the youth of today just no good?
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>>70040143
Well Dwarves at least weren't his invention. Tolkien Elves piss me off though. It's funny how the Witcher has both Tolkien-esque Elves and the Wild Hunt in it.
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>>70040176
>Are the youth of today just no good?
Of course not, it's all this coddling and PC mentality. Todays youth are ruined and it's only going to get worse. Of course maybe the youth have been never good. I don't see any problem with the Hobbit, its like hard PG stuff. I suppose a little Redwall would be absolutely out of the question too.
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>muh orcs
>muh vulcans
>muh lovable short gold hording race.
>muh archetypes
>muh overrated high production values.
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>>70040426
There needs to be one like this for the Last March of the Ents. Fuck does that get me misty eyed every time.
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>>70031724
Those who've seen it say its either average or a terrible mess, which leads me to believe that this is nothing but another videogame movie that winks at fans and has nothing to offer outside of that. Its sad because I really want a goofy action movie with a unique universe and characters that isnt a fucking Marvel movie.
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Am I alone in that every time I watch LOTR (once a year) I end up enjoying it more than I did the last time, and crying harder than before?

These fucking movies are the best thing ever made. And it blows my mind that the books are even better.
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>>70040606
I don't really feel that way about the moves, but I did read the book 8 times because it kept getting better.
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>>70040636
It's been quite a few years since I read the LOTR books, but I read the Silmarillion last year and it was one of the best books I've ever read. It was like being a child and listening to Moses tell you a story about the creation of the world and all the stories of the ancient days.
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>>70040760
>I read the Silmarillion last year
So you read Children of Hurin yet?
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Is there another character in film or literature as based as this man?
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>>70040606
LOTR is simply timeless, one of those movies you can watch again and again
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>>70040799
Aragorn is right up there with him.

I just love all the scenes of these two together.
As the series goes on you can tell Theoden sees Aragorn growing, and becoming a King in his own right.
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>>70040799
Not even the best eorlingas. Helm hammerhand was 10x the man
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>>70040791
Not yet. Wasn't it mostly written by Christopher, and it's just a more detailed version of Turin's story?
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>>70041108
Well, to be fair he also has the most badass name of all time.
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>>70041196
Still worth a read. Shit gets dark.
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Anyone else just want to beat the shit out of this little faggot?
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>>70041446
FOOL OF A TOOK!
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>>70040483
First I loved the ride of the Rohirrim the most, but then I started to like other scenes even more.
my personal ranking of best feel scenes (the movies are stuffed to the brink full with them anyway):
5. "What can man do against such reckless evil?" Outnumbered, grim Theoden riding out with just a handfull of his last riders against overwhelming odds of Uruks. Knowing it could be their last ride, the Rohirrim wanted to go out the way they are used to: not on foot, but on a motherfuckin HORSE! (hence, the "Horsemen"). I like the defiant attitude, really strong.
4. The Elves appearing at Helms Deep (Legolas: “That’s no orc horn!” and the elves music when they arrive to aid the men of Rohan. It’s wonderful / powerful. (“HALDIRRRR!!!”) Got misty eyed as the music shortly played in AuJ, too. Like it a lot.
3. (pic related) Gandalf comes to the rescue of Faramirs riders which flee from Osgiliath, shining the harassing Nazghul away with a ray of hope from his staff. The ill-fated Faramir and his senseless attempt to retake Osgiliath from Cancer-face just to please his bitter father (and in memory of Boromir) were all too much depressing stuff – hearing that angelic voice was a much needed relief. That, and Gandalf riding out there ALONE!
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>>70040483
2. Last march of the ents. Treebeards heartbroken voice over the loss of his tree-friends and the resulting rage-modus, ESCPECIALLY after giving almost no shits about anything the whole movie, was emotional in it’s own right, but with the music and the Ents being the “last of their kind”, but going out to help some poor little saps and trees (they are treeherders after all)… I can’t even write anymore, sry. Go, help dem little trees…. ;_;
And: RELEASE THE RIVER!

1. The Beacons. (pic related) Gandalf: "Hope is kindled." It's the combination of the epic-swelling music, the grim depressing feels up to that point and the implication that "shit has now OFFICIALLY hit the fan". The Beacons are an old oath between Gondor and Rohan, now going in effect for the first time since forever (at least that's what it feels like). Knowing that these guys on the beacons are already asking them "What the fuck are we even doing here, nothing ever happens! I wanna go home.", stuck in snow and shit - but then - they see the signal, the emergency call numbero uno. It's no time for fuckery anymore, time to lit all the beacons. Gondor can’t stand the evil on it’s own any longer, all of Middleearth is in danger, ALL OF IT. Aragorn’s "Gondor calls for help!" and Theodens answer is the icing on the cake of this whole scene. I guess it’s mostly about the impliactions that I love this scene so much.
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>this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om_BKWttz18

oh fuck every time
i dont understand how these 10/10 movies get matched up with 10/10 scores every single time, its odd to find a bad movie with a good score or a good movie with a bad score.
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>>70041825
The lighting of the beacons is probably one of the most amazing scenes ever filmed. I sit on the edge of my seat every time.

But what's this, no love for when Sam becomes a man and picks up Sting and the Light of Elendil? This is my favorite scene in the entire trilogy. He's been made a fool by Gollum, and his master and best friend in the entire world has told him to go home, then he falls down the stairs just to add injury to insult. But then, he sees the crumbs of the lembas bread and he feels the FURY rise in him, and when the camera pans up the mountain you know shit is about to get real. Then after you think Frodo is fucked, out from the corner comes a pure light, and Samwise mothafuckin Gamgee coming to seize his own destiny.
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>>70035442
O yes because the orcs were so dangerous. They got knocked the fuck out by the fucking pebbles the little dudes were throwing.
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>>70041825

yfw you will never be a man of the west, have no real skill, except maybe good eyesight and being positioned on a lonely hill somewhere in the mountains, just in case some age-old beacon is being lit in the far distant. What a shitty job. Days, weeks, months go by, without anything happening. You and your silent buddy are living there in absolute loneliness and isolation and occasionally some bird shits on your or his head.
You have to keep the wood dry and replace it once in a while. Thankfully the Humans in the valley provide you with food, cloths and materials for this stupid task. There is this but one qt who comes with the caravan each time, but she has no eyes for you, is already promised to some rich merchant. You shrug it off, what could you possibly do? You gaze up into the grey sky for days, and your buddy is starting to cough miserably. Maybe sick? "What are we even doing here, lad? Has Eru forsaken us?", he asks you. But you don't know the answer. Everything seems pointless, silent, grey. Gondor will never call for help, the old oaths are meaningless. Just like your life.
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>>70042630
And in the morning fog (you were just taking a piss down into the world) you see a small red flame on the horizon. Is it the sun? No, to far off to the west. You would know, you have seen it countless times before.
No, it's something else. It’s getting bigger.

Fire.

You shake, stumble and half-crawl your way to your buddy, shake him violently: "The B-beacon! Look!" He gets up, looks at you, then looks at the horizon. His eyes widen and he whispers: "You start the fire, I prepare the wood. G-go. GO!" You nod like crazy, your head feeling dizzy. You might as well stumble and fall of the mountain at this point. Gondor is calling for help. And you must fulfill your destiny, your one fucking task. Do your small part in this great war, which will decide the fate off all men. Save even the life of that girl, which has no eyes for you. It doesn't matter. What matters is that - for once in your life - you can change fate, turn it around, be somebody.
And so you light the beacon, keep it burning till nothing of it remains. Then you take your friend and you both descend…
(gbf’16)
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>Too few have come, we cannot defeat the armies of Mordor.

>No, we cannot. But we will meet them in battle nonetheless.
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>>70042205
I like it too, but I guess it comes down to personal preference, bro.

What I really liked about the whole Shelob-arc though is that they were climbing the, steep as fuck, stairs and Sam being shit on by Frodo, tearing up and all, while Frodo coldly sends him away and Gollum smugs like a motherfucker.
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>>70040426
Why do we stupidly wish to be apart of a war/battle? It would be horrible.
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>>70031693
Imagine how shit those movies would have been if made today, with all the diversity quotas and eggshell-tier sensitivity.
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>>70034317

a movie about roberts rebellion might if the people who made the show dont touch it
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>>70043394
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>Legolas! You're da man.
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>>70043394
You see, there was a little bit of that with the "I am no man" when she kills the Witch King, but it was so well executed and fucking cool that it didn't even register.
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>>70038484
that's exactly the problem, she doesn't look like an orc, she looks like a human with green skin and some dumb mouth accessory
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>ywn turn to Bywater, and so come back up the Hill, as day is ending once more

>ywn go on, and there'll be yellow light, and fire within; and the evening meal is ready, and you are expected

>Rose will never draw you in, and set you in your chair, and put little Elanor upon your lap.

>ywn draw a deep breath and say ‘Well, I’m back,’

WHY FUCKING LIVE
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>>70033004
Elrond is the worst example because of Weaving's wrinkled bitter face, ,most of the elves looked very unreal.
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>>70044110
that and it was in the books..

the reason why it worked was because it wasn't over the top feminist shit like ghostbusters
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C-can someone pls stream LotR again?
watching it with /tv/ was the best last time
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ARE WE BACK? I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SO LONG TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE TWO TOWERS IS THE BEST LOTR MOVIE
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>>70043355
>Why do we stupidly wish to be apart of a war/battle? It would be horrible.

It's a natural male inclination to want to fight someone who threatens your family/tribe, which has largely been castrated from modern men.

Miguel de Cervantes (author of Don Quixote) fought in the Battle of Lepanto despite being so sick that he was supposed to have remained below deck when the fleets slammed into each other. He ended up getting shot three times and having his left arm permanently crippled. When he thought back on this he didn't whine like a bitch over his loss, he commented that he had "lost the movement of the left hand for the glory of the right".
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>>70044410
THE OLD WORLD WILL BURN IN THE FIRES OF INDUSTRY
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Are we all going to act like the last 4 hours didn't happen?
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>>70044433
What 4 hours?
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>>70044431
THE FORESTS WILL FALL
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>>70044470
WE WILL DRIVE THE MACHINE OF WAR WITH THE SWORD AND THE SPEAR AND THE IRON FIST OF THE ORC
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>>70035607
This is very sad.....
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>>70042630
>>70042733
based.
>tfw a simple, yet important purpose with life would make everything so much better
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>>70044647
PETER JACKSON DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>70044486
you forgot "A NEW ORDER WILL RISE"
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Is this one of the more underrated scenes in the triology?

I love it so fucking much. That fucking climax in the music when they ride down the steep hill. WEW

>that FORTH EORLINGAS
>that BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6XicBBN1l4
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>>70044740
I wouldn't call it underrated its just another of many epic scenes in the trilogy.
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>>70031724
>>70031830

I have no problem accepting criticism of the movie, but it is clear to me that many reviews are slamming it just because "lol orcs, lmao fantasy". I can just imagine some pretentious movie snub sniggering at this movie based on a video game.
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>>70031693
>Be 6 when FoTR comes out
>Hear the older kids at school talking about someone named Frodo
>Everyone all of a sudden pair up in groups of 9 at recess, and everyone wants to be some guys called Legolas and Aragorn
>Don't understand shit
>Finally see it like 6 months later
>Orcs (fucking Moria goblins) scare me so bad I run to my room
>Rediscover it again around 6 years later
>Fucking love it
I envy those who were old enough to appreciate the movies in their heyday.
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The start of the TT is a scene people too often forget about. Another example of music adding a whole other level to how fucking cool it is
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https://youtu.be/xsT0cuXYBVA

Man, this scene, when you first see the city come into view, it never fails to give me goosebumps. The music just helps it so god damn much, I love it.
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>>70045050
Everyone loves this shot but honestly it's so fucking retarded

>build city in the middle of fucking nowhere
>build it on a fucking cliff
>expand it upwards not outwards
>placed next to a big mountain

fucking retarded
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>>70045104
I don't see how.
>city is literally called Watch Tower
Seems to have a decent view, doesn't it?
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>>70045150
Yeah, out over fucking nowhere
and it can only look in one direction which is also stupid
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GoT is such a stinking turd compared to this
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>>70045104
My only real complaint about the LoTR movies, are that The Shire is apparently the only place in Middle-Earth where people grow crops and have a functioning, logical agriculture.
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>tfw in primary school friend and me spent our school breaks pretending to air-fight orcs and copying moves and scenes from LotR films
>when in the countryside we pretended tall grass and branches was uruk hai and "killed" them with wooden sticks
fun times
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>>70045177
only one direction matters in those lands I think, I mean what the fuck else do you want to see coming except for mordor guys?
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>>70045104
those land prices in Gondor are obscene. The only way to keep property value in check is to build up.
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>>70045210
We had some orc cards as well, was great fun indeed.
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>>70045210
>tfw me and a bro attented a huge LoTR cosplay/costume party in a medieval "theme" park (more like a historical time pocket with reenactors and shit like that but w/e) where they showed the movies on huge ass screens out in the open during a really nice warm summer
>tfw I was Sam and he was Frodo
>tfw we tried to make our own pipes from shitty twigs and branches
>tfw glued hair from a wig to our feet
>tfw we went barefoot
>tfw those good times were 14 years ago
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Right in the feels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scud6t1LgXc
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>>70033004
>Elrond Half-elven doesn't look entirely like an elf
No shit
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>>70045306
Did you share the load?
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>>70034317
Laffin my fugin arse off m80
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>>70045353
Not that time, but we used to suck each other off when we were like 6

Fuck you guys, Sam and Frodo was not gay
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>>70045104
Osgiliath was the actual main city, but it was ovverrun centuries ago and Minas Tirith became the capital as it was a hell of a fortress that they could "hold the line" at.

Furthermore, Ithilien was the garden of Gondor where they grew a shitload of food, but that too was overrun as it's on the opposite side of the Anduin river near the Mountains of Shadow/Mordor.
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>>70045104
See it like this. There is Minas Anor and Minas Ithil. In the middle of these, lies the Royal Capital of Osgiliath. Ithil wards off attacks from within Mordor and Anor sees everyone who even comes close to Osgiliath. From East to West. No one can attack Osgiliath without the Gondorians being forewarned, and then they have to deal with garrisons who sally forth from two opposite directions.

Then Ithil gets taken by the Nazgul and Osgiliath gets destroyed during the Kin-Strife. Anor is renamed Tirith and is made the new capital by necessity.
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>>70045416
What are those expressions trying to convey?
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>>70040423
Muh edge
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>>70045536
>Faramir:"Dad's coming bro"
>Boromir:"Shit"
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>>70045607
More like
>I think he's on to us, maybe we shouldn't go to a brothel tonight...
>I dreamed of my death last night
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>>70035607
Jesus Christ, this fucking rekt me.

I think you should be happy you have such a strong way to keep your grandfather's memory alive. When I'm missing my grandma, I'll sit there and play guitar, imagining she's watching me and telling me what sounds good and what doesn't, like she used to. Watching Lord of the Rings when you miss your grandfather is a pretty good way to remember him.


On topic, no, fantasy movies won't get better. The books came out and solidified fantasy as a legitimate genre, while simultaneously killing it because they were so much better than any fantasy before or since. The movies kind of did the same thing - they put so much effort into every facet of production, they created the most perfect fantasy film of all time. Even the Hobbit, made by the same guys, is infinitely shittier because the lack of care shows through.

I love A Song of Ice and Fire, I think it's the only fantasy series besides LotR that's worth reading. The show has its problems, but the production quality is so high, it's the only other fantasy property that can be mentioned in the same breath as LotR. I can't wait for the series to end, so people can make a 20 hour movie of only Jon Snow's parts. THAT would be almost as good as LotR, imo. You'd have the Watchers on the Wall episode, the Hardhome episode, and the upcoming hour long battle episode from this season.
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>>70044647
He didn't even want to make the hobbit
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Rohan is so fucking comfy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5_xb522jEo
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>>70045859
It's more cheerful at a graveyard.
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When was the last comfy LoTR thread? It's been far too long
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>>70042521
It's mentioned in the books that Hobbits are extremely adept at throwing rocks with speed and accuracy.

Dunno why, but they just are. A 2/3 kg rock travelling at substantial speed is at the least going to knock a cunt out, if not do some serious damage.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCY_Hjv7vKc

is this the most feel inducing scene in the whole series?

i mean, goddamn
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Why did he have to die bro's?
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>>70046261
Yup, I choke up every time.
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>>70046262
He died for Isengard's sins
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>>70046261
the Elves dying at Helm's Deep is pretty feel-heavy
just think, them dying isn't missing out on like 20 years of life, it's losing an ETERNITY of life
they would never have died ever if they did not choose to fight by Rohan, and could just as easily have left with the ships to live an eternity with their nigga Eru in neverland. It's a straight-up tragedy, not just sadness but real tragedy
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>>70046262
Because it was time to let the next generation take over. It was better to die in battle than to wither away as a decrepit old man.
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>>70046419
Did none of them really survive? I mean, you see them all retreating towards the hall, but then there's none there in the scene after.
Also, don't they get to go to elf heaven or something?
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Forever in my heart

Forever will it hold its own place in the vault of my brain.

Forever a masterpiece that will live on.
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>>70046261
i would say ride of the rohirrim or 'for frodo'
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>>70040591
From what I've seen is it will alienate hardcore lore fans because it rapes pretty hard set cannon and making the orcs into even bigger dindunuffins.
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>>70046498
>Also, don't they get to go to elf heaven or something?

I think the good elves get resurrected in the Halls of Mandos and live somewhere in Valinor afterwards.
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>>70031693
You just had to go with "The Road Goes Ever On" didn't you motherfucker?
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>Theoden's last stand at Helm's Deep
>Eomer and Gandalf smashing into the uruk's flank, scattering them

>charge of the Rohirrim at Minas Tirith
>reforming and wheeling around to face down the mumakil

>Aragorn's plea to the Captains of the West
>There may come a day when the courage of men fails; when we break our oaths and forsake all bonds of fellowship, but IT IS NOT. THIS. DAY.
>Aragorn's lone charge against the armies of Mordor, Merry and Pippin being the first to join him

The word 'epic' has been ground into the dirt by now, but these moments are some of the most truly epic things ever put on film, imo. Aragorn and Theoden were so well cast. I would follow both of those men onto the beaches of fucking Normandy.
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>>70035607
fug
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>>70046865

Dark have been my dreams of late.
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I always wondered how these actors could put on such compelling performances when fantasy is such an inherently silly thing and nobody had any reason to expect anything from LoTR. Think about this scene. It's a guy in a scruffy bathrobe pretending to be a wizard arguing with a tiny little man who walks around barefooted arguing about a magic ring and it's still so real. You FEEL everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yy0pPTrHlk
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>>70046927
Ian Holm is the best version of Bilbo tbqh
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>>70046927
The mark of great actors
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>>70046927
The actor is great and PJ knew has shit back then.
Now? Idk.
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>>70040105
Don't you mean "A SWORD day, a RED day, ere the sun rises"
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>>70039535

THIS MY FRIEND, IS CALLED A PINT
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>>70046917
Oh god, please don't. I'm at work.
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>>70031693
Andy Serkis was robbed an Oscar, he played two characters, Gollum and Smeagol
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>>70046927
Dressing up in silly costumes and pretending to be something you are not is what acting is about.

If anything pretending to be something that has never existed should be more fun for an actor than just imitating someone else's mannerisms in a biopic, as long as they don't have to do too much green screen shit.
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>>70046927

The "fantasy" of the LOTR is very heavily grounded in European mythology, and Tolkien went to great lengths to further flesh out his world so that it felt like an ancient history of our real world (which, in-lore, it was).

Jackson even said to the production teams to not make any fantasy shit, but to make "historically accurate" elvish, dwarvish, etc. gear and set pieces and to treat the LOTR books as some ancient manuscript that was unearthed, with them making a historical recreation movie.
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>>70047150
>Jackson even said to the production teams to not make any fantasy shit, but to make "historically accurate" elvish, dwarvish, etc. gear and set pieces and to treat the LOTR books as some ancient manuscript that was unearthed, with them making a historical recreation movie.
Nice
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>>70047260
And then somewhere along the way he lost his the righteous path and made a Hobbit trilogy.
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fuq why were those OSTs so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwIVs_F2kMo
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>>70047286
JACKSON DID NOTHING WRONG
http://www.slashfilm.com/peter-jackson-hobbit-movie-problems/
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>>70047305
Best track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUIZvAe3RBg
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>>70036714
Èowyn is easily one of the best female "badass" or action-y characters in film. She is obviously not that strong of a character physically, but she has a big heart and a lot of will which makes up for her lack of battle experience. Even "I Am No Man" is executed well, it shows that she's not a Mary Sue and was getting her ass kicked by the Witch King. She has believable flaws and believable ways to work around those flaws. Plus her actress is the QTest girl in LotR.
Bravo Tolkien, and Bravo Jackson
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQkygZdZ_Vk

>that fucking feel
Jackson is a good boy, he dindu nuffin
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>>70041792
>>70041825
One of my favorite scenes in the books is when Sam sees the star over Mordor but man did Sean Aston butcher the delivery in the film, no wonder it was cut from the theatrical release.
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>>70039260
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There are so many little GREAT, not just good scenes. Like the one when fool of a Took and Merry find the flooded food storage with a bunch of food saved and two barrels of longbottom leaves. Then they discuss on whether they should share it with the ent, but decide not to.

Or scenes with Faramir and just generally what a great and underrated guy he is.

Or that scene 'but you, my daughter...' with Arwen next to the stone monument to dead Aragorn in the far future before she travels to the West.
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>>70038775
jesus christ
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Robert's Rebellion movie could easily match LOTR if they do it right.
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>>70038444
Why don't cinemas do re runs of older movies? Is there no money in it? I'm sure people would love to watch Lotr on the big screen again.
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>>70047450
GRRM is a hack
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>>70047472
Some do. A few years back there was a tour where they showed the films with a live orchestra. I would fucking kill to see that.
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>>70047032
RIDE NOW. RIDE NOW!

The most epic speech of the movie, imo. I'm also partial to the beacon scene. Up until that point, the good guys were taking a shitkicking, there was infighting and they were at each others throats. Theoden didn't want to ride to Gondor, since Gondor hadn't ridden for them. Then Aragorn runs in, breathless. When he says "Gondor calls for aid", his eyes are saying "Please help me." Theoden shows that he's a true lord of men with one of the hardest hitting lines in the trilogy. "And Rohan will answer. MUSTER THE ROHIRRIM." Chills every time.
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>>70047338
>background chanting in Khuzdul right when the balrog shows up
It's the little things that elevates LotR to perfection levels.
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>>70047450
Well thats just the thing, isnt it. Many things could reach LOTR, but wont because circumstances surrounding the making of LOTR overlapped in such a manner that they were able to produce the highest quality movie with everybody giving their best and still earn money. This rarely happen nowadays and if it does, its just with one sequel, not all 3
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>>70047524
>HU HU HU HAHAHA HAHAHA HU HU HAAAAAAAAH HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
What did they mean by this?
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>>70043355
We all know war is hell, I think even the ancients and the medieval knights knew that, but there is something in the male mind that makes us want to protect something that means something to us. I don't think we lust after battle, I think we lust after purpose and direction and meaning. We want to defend or fight for something that truly means something, which is why the Last Charge of the Rohirrim means so much to men who watch it: those men were fighting for something, they had a purpose, to save their people, their women, and their children. That's something that's largely been removed from modern life.
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>>70047523
That scene felt a little rushed and out of place, considering the fact that he threw a fit about helping Gondor prior to it.

Still hype as fuck.
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>>70047554
It means "you're fucked now, fly you fools".
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>>70047354
He should have compromised on his "vision" and used some of del Toro's prep work.
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>>70047570
This post fucking rules, and I'd say that's the correct answer. It's what allowed the men on D Day to storm the beaches, knowing they weren't all going to make it.
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>>70047450
>Robert's Rebellion movie could easily match LOTR if they do it right.

GRRMs actual stories are soap operas that are not nearly as good as Tolkien's works, and his lore-writing and world-building skills are fucking abysmal.

I'm not even a hater, I like his works for what they are, but it's important to note that they're literally medieval soap operas.
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>>70047570
That and to have our nuts hang to bitches and tell them how much of a badass we are going to war.

Not everyone fights for an honorable reason, some just want to get paid to kill.
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>>70047589
It's because he remembers the oaths sworn between Gondor and Rohan. Even if the Gondorians have been asses this whole time, that is something he has to honor. Honor is a big guy for Theoden.
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>>70036420
If the movie were filmed these days, Sam and Frodo would kiss after he pulled him out of the water.
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>Be 6 when first movie came out
>Parents take me along with them to the cinema
>Nazgul apear
>Literally scared shitless, forced them to take me home mid movie
If I could I would go back in time and slap the little shit I was. It was only around 2008 when the movies were broadcast during winter holidays that I rediscovered them, and since then I made it a habit to watch them at least 2-3 times a year, if not more.
I can't even explain to you guys how bad it makes me feel that I'll never get to watch it for the first time in a real cinema
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>Forth, and fear no darkness!

i've thought about getting that inked
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>>70047651
>He should have compromised on his "vision" and used some of del Toro's prep work.

I think it's safe to say that if he threw out Del Taco's prep work knowing full well he wasn't going to get barely any of his own, it was probably because Del Taco's ideas were fucking garbage and Peter thought he would be able to wing a better movie. Whether he actually accomplished this is an unknown, and as such it's dumb to criticize him for this seeing as for all we know following the fat Mexican's direction for the movie could have made them even worse.
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>>70047589
I would agree, they should maybe have shown Theoden's reluctance to ride for Gondor a little earlier, and perhaps added another scene of he and Aragorn arguing about it. Either way, the scene of the beacons being lit along the mountains absolutely blew me away, so I can forgive that.
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>>70047741
Bilbo's spooky monster face always made me poop my pants.
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>>70047353
this. eowyn is just fun to watch
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>>70047450
Except that Tolkien and GRRM operate on completely different levels.
Tolkien is about myth-building, using European epic literature and creating a coherent world based on his own personal philosophy (just look at how the problem of the orcs' nature troubled him.
GRRM is extremely post-modern in both style and mindset, there are no absolutes and everything is about the power struggles of individuals in a chaotic world that exists only in function of these characters and their relationships. In that, he is more similar to late Renaissance fantastic works, but without the whimsical fantastic qualities and instead trying too hard to be realistic while also having stuff like decades long seasons and magic.
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>>70047776
No doubt there was probably some stupid shit, but there was probably plenty of set design, costume design, etc, that he could have used instead of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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>>70047570
i only wish to do some soldering

great post, it actually makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

i mean, so do blowjobs and deer hunting as well.
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>>70031693

I'm waiting for the remake by someone who can appreciate social justice and safe spaces.
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>>70031693
>Will fantasy ever reach this level?
Maybe if they put in the proper effort on Witcher. It might not be as epic in scope, but it has more humanity in return.
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>>70047874
I thought that the first movie was using a lot of Del Taco stuff, like the whole Goblin Town stuff
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>>70047829
yea man fuck that shit
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>>70031693
BIG IF;

>IF, they make a good Wheel of Time adaptation
>IF, the series gets all the way to the last book
>IF, they still somehow managed to properly display the Last Battle, between all the united forces of Light versus Shadow, on the Fields of Merrilor and Slopes of Shayol Ghul, fighting in the "Tarmon Gaidon".

the odds are minimal, but one can hope.
otherwise I am stuck to watching LOTR on an annual basis.
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The first big battle scene in Fellowship, where they barricade themselves in Balin's tomb, knocked me on my ass when I was younger. Aragorn and Boromir chopping arms and stabbing orcs through the chest, Legolas dual wielding his knives, jumping on top of the troll.

>"Let them come! There is one dwarf in Moria who still draws breath!"
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>>70047929
Oh what's wrong, can't handle the fact that sweet old uncle Bilbo wants his precious back?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30rUL2oVlfI
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>>70039043
>the rest of Arnoldcore
>Billy,imagine being Arnold in that scene...
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>tv generally has people shitting on anything and everything
>almost unanimously worships LotR
I love you guys.
>>70040799
It always gets me teary eyed how Gandalf fucking nailed the Big Good role. Like, how he loves all good creatures, and acts as a teacher, a guide and a protector, and you can tell he genuinely cares. Shit, that scene when he's comforting Merry when they're about to die makes me cry every time.
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>>70047936
the tension in that scene as Gandalf is reading the final journal entries is immense
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>>70047936
>tfw Gimli turned into pure comic relief
I enjoyed it as a kid, but on rewatching, it just felt a bit disappointing.
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>>70047936
pic related


>"You cannot pass. I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass."

Will we see ever anything greater on cinema screen?
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>>70047936
And Sam fought with a fucking frying pan. That troll was the hypest shit I'd ever seen when I was a kid.
Until a couple minutes later when the Balrog showed up.
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>>70047908
>Black Aragorn
>All armies of mordor are white men
>Frodo and Sam are actually gay
>Gandalf is trans
>Armies of Rhoan and Gondor are 90% women

cant wait...
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>>70047983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-odIIQORQ4
;__;
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>>70047741
I was creeped the fuck out by that shot of Gollum in FoTS.
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>>70047936
>The first big battle scene in Fellowship, where they barricade themselves in Balin's tomb, knocked me on my ass when I was younger.
0:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L96WqXEbeE
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>>70047989
They are coming.
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>>70048030
Me too but I never admitted it to anyone because my dad thought Gollum was the funniest thing.
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>>70047983
don't you mean Pippin though?
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>>70048030
>FoTS
Fuck, I obviously meant FoTR, not Fall of The Samurai lel
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If the dwarves are supposed to be refugees, where is Gimli from? Are there any dwarf cities or nations at the start of the Fellowship
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>>70047354
he could've not signed to make the bloody thing
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>>70048082
FUCK! Oh well, guess it's time to watch 'em again.
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>>70048161
The answer to both is Blue Mountains.
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>tfw the first movies I watched with my gf was the LoTR triology
>tfw she laughed when I cried during the Gray Haven scene
>tfw she will never understand
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>>70048191
If she doesn't have feelings she might not be a good woman to be with.
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>>70048209
I mean, she gets the feelsy parts and stuff, but she never grew up with LoTR, and I literally never cry, except during the ending of LoTR and MGS3, so seeing me cry was a bit of a shock for her.

But she got good taste overall, so all is forgiven, but fuck man, that fucking scene. Tears evrytime
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>>70048015
>Gandalf is such a sage, and so kind and loving, that he can comfort a fucking hobbit in the face of imminent death
HOW THE FUCK CAN ONE MAN BE AS BASED AS TOLKIEN?
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>>70048161
Most Dwarves live either in the Blue Mountains West of the Shire or in the Iron Hills East of the Lonely Mountain. Gimli's family fled to the Blue Mountains after Smaug invaded the Lonely Mountain and then moved back after the events of the Hobbit, but their ancestral homeland is Moria
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>>70048015
That's actually fucked up seeing how Gandalf, who has an immortal soul, actually does go to Valinor when he is killed. However Men (and presumably Hobbits) distinctly do not go to Valinor when they die and for all we know they go into a great big nothingness when they pass.
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>>70048191
I remember trying to hide my tears and sniffles during that scene in the cinema. I was sat between these two qt girls I was friends with.
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>>70048264
Does Gandalf know this though? I mean i know he's like an Angel and all that but does he really know everything that goes on in the afterlife?
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>>70048185
Didn't his dad move back to Erebor?
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>>70048264
Dude, in such a positive setting like LotR, there is no fucking way Eru Illuvitar would just go ''Lel, it's the void for you now''.
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>>70046419

Those niggas get reborn in fucking elf Valhalla, and can even come back to the comparative shithole that is middle-earth if they want to (see: Glorfindel)
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>>70048320
Does it matter if it's real or not?
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Getting in bed to watch RoTK right now
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>>70048239
can women even understand what a true bromance is?
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>>70047829
>my friend and i would watch the VHS and every time that part came on we would try pausing it at that exact moment
>VHS was a pain in the dick to get it to pause and not looked all fucked up
>we still had a lot of fun doing that for whatever reason

i miss being a little kid and having fun
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>tfw own all the extended editions
>tfw going to do my summer-ly /comfy/ rewatch of the trilogy
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>>70048386
my mom is a lotr fanatic but still she doesn't understand the sam-frodo bromance
she mostly lusts after Boromir, which is understandable
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>>70048359
>paren't bought Lotr on VHS when i was a kid
>would often watch it in bed at night
>fell asleep to May it be by Enya during the credits
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>Aragorn and the Rohan soldiers protecting the civilians from the wargs
>slow-mo shot of Legolas on the hill, dropping warg riders from a hundred yards like it's nothing
>turning and one-hand vaulting onto his horse as the rest of the riders catch up
>that shot panning from the horses, to the wargs, then back to the centre as the lines meet and bodies fly
>seeing Aragorn go over the cliff at the end
I thought my heart was going to explode that entire scene, it was beating so fast.
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>>70048191
>I will not say: do not weep; for not all tears are an evil.
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>>70048450
>tfw I told my parents that they should play May it Be during my funeral
man that was fucking morbid now that I think about it lol
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>>70048450
*parents
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The way is shut. It was made by those who are dead. And the dead keep it. The way is shut.
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Best scene in the series?
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>>70031693
>Remember the first time you saw this in cinemas?

Go to bed grampa, fucking hell this place makes me sad...how old are you paedo fuck neway?
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Hey guy above me, you don't even deserve a (You). Get outta this thread.
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