redpilled or tinfoil hat
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Anti-vaxxers are fucking complete fucking idiots who deserve nothing other than utter contempt.
>>69977544
literally every single one of these figures on the right are the result of other causes, hygiene, social and economical reasons, various awareness campaigns, etc.
the poster is just propaganda.
The issue is being strawmanned. People are resisting thimerosol containing vaccines not the vaccines themselves. Thimerosol has been banned in pretty much every civilized nation except the USA for some reason.
>>69977716
t. highschool dropout.
A single vaccine contains
Formaldehyde
Antifreeze
Mercury
Latex
Hydrochloric acid
Aluminum
Aspertame
Aborted fetal tissue
Live viruses
Any questions?
>>69977935
yep vaccines did everything, there were absolutely no other contributing factors at play
>>69977985
t. Straw McMann.
>>69977935
t. rused man
>>69978017
nope
>>69977544
We don't need more people
>>69978030
t. The patron saint of sore bottoms.
>>69978046
t. A Highschool dropout.
>>69977716
This is willful ignorance. Vaccines have saved more lives than anything other than maybe antibiotics.
>>69977716
Yes, the reason sub-saharan Africa no longer has smallpox is because their hygiene is now so much better that what once was a disease that occurred even in the first world was eliminated "coincidentally" as the worldwide vaccination campaign happened. Funny that.
>>69978173
there is still smallpox in africa
and if you want to talk about the infographic above those numbers are not including numbers from africa obviously
>>69977716
So the reason that smallpox has been completely eradicated from the world is handwashing and awareness campaigns? This is fucking flat earth tier.
>>69978220
>there is still smallpox in africa
Ahh, how could i forgot about the zionist coverups that are surely going on.
>>69978220
>there is still smallpox in africa
Jesus Christ. What do they teach in schools these days?
>>69978220
>there is still smallpox in africa
No, there isn't.
>>69978333
yes there is
>>69978333
>>69978344
Trips vs. Dubs
YOU LOSE SHKRELI
>>69977963
Big sciency sounding words might scare you but not educated people.
Most of those are already in our bodies and the rest are in such tiny quantities they're harmless.
The mercury in vaccines is ethyl mercury, which passes through the human body without being absorbed. Methyl mercury is the bad kind and the differences between the two is the difference between vodka and gasoline. Even if it was the bad kind of mercury its less than you'd get from a can of tuna.
But go ahead, I'm sure getting polio is more preferrable than an injection.
>>69976981
>implying those two terms don't mean the same
>>69978393
thats funny, i never got a polio vaccine and i never got polio.
>>69977716
What hygienic practice caused this?
>>69977963
A banana contains more formaldehyde than a vaccine.
It's like those flat earther videos that are popular now. Or the Trump campaign.
Lots of stupid people out there.
>>69978467
because it's been eradicated in the US by vaccines.
>>69978467
(you)
>>69978525
it's just a statistical anomaly, not even significant
>>69978620
then we dont need vaccines if all these horrible diseases have been eliminated according to you
>>69978671
we need vaccines for the ones that haven't been eliminated
>>69977544
Not that I want to defend anti-vaxxers, but there could be a shitton of other reason for the decline in those conditions other than vaccination
>>69977963
I'll take a small amount of poison over polio. Maybe you should move to Liberia.
>>69978815
hurr high school drop out
>>69978815
Of course. That's why the flu is so rare today despite effective vaccination not existing.
>>69979002
stop lumping us in with those fruits
>>69979203
stop lumping in who with who?
Vaccines are fine for adults but do have terrible life-changing effects on children still developing. Especially children going through puberty.
Getting your kid vacc'd at birth is like saying, "i'm ok with just fucking my kid up for the sake of them not getting polio anymore"
>>69978393
>Ethyl mercury, which passes through the human body without being absorbed
>Wikipedia: Methylmercury and ethylmercury distribute to all body tissues, crossing the blood–brain barrier and the placental barrier, and ethylmercury also moves freely throughout the body
>>69979259
high school drop outs with anti vaxxers
>>69979486
oh shit
>>69978558
When I die I want to be preserved in bananas
>>69979486
vaxxies btfo
>2016
>defending the inoculatory Jew
>>69979315
no
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_controversies
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-vaccination_movement
Stop spreading misinformation.
it's as if people want to return to the pre-penicillin days
Tinfoil.
You can't "catch" autism. It's not an infectious disease.
>>69979995
Then why did I lose all my friends after I started browsing 4chan?
>>69979946
>rationalwiki
>>69978467
Depending on where you're from and when you were born you may have actually, but you could have been too young to remember it
>>69976981
good argument for a totalitarian state model
>>69979946
>http://rationalwiki.org
>>69980033
They did a good writeup on the subject. Deal with it.
It's fucking stupid that vaccination companies can't be held accountable for whatever percentage of vaccines that go wrong. It is inexcusable by all ethical and logical/lawful principals, unless some guy said, "I'm an alien who is going to destroy the universe if you don't make vaccination pharma completely protected from law."
>>69979946
>rationalwiki
If vaccines are so good why don't they have vaccine for cancer yet?
Strangely they only have them for diseases that no longer exist, funny that, huh
>>69980218
>good write-up
>opinionated, emotion-driven statements
>editor ties to tie it in with their pet issues
>>69980455
Show me better.
>>69981002
Literally any peer-reviewed academic journal.
>>69978097
>t. a selective research poster
>>69979946
>RationalWiki
>Trust us, our logical fallacies have fallacies of their own. More selective material from the people who brought you "I'm just asking questions.." is somehow bad.
>>69977963
Bananas set of geiger counters, that doesn't mean that they'll create kaijus or give you superpowers.
>>69977716
You're a retard who has no understanding of communicable disease.
I thought Anti-vax people just insisted that modern vaccines had unintended side effects most notably autism, not that vaccines didn't work.
>>69979315
please be bait, please
>>69977963
The Lyme Vaccine called "LymeRIX" was pulled from the market after being administered to the first set of patients in 1998 because the vaccine created an immunological syndrome that was similar the neuroborreliosis.
The vaccine carried OspA, OspC, the outer surface protein of the Lyme bacterium that causes autoimmunity and molecular mimicry in those diagnosed with the disease.
>>69978344
>from the only source I could find that claims smallpox existing in Africa today
Parents only vaccinate because they believe that there is a need to prevent children from getting measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, forgetting the old-age wisdom of knowing that these are the natural diseases that prime and mature the immune system of children, and not vaccines. If anything, vaccines de-immunize. Properly managed (meaning not mismanaged by the administration of antipyretics and antibiotics), having measles not only results in a life-long specific immunity to measles, but also in a life-long non-specific protection against degenerative diseases of bone and cartilage, immunoreactive diseases (such as allergies, asthma), sebaceous skin diseases and cancers.
kek
>>69983366
It's more of what is in the vaccines other than the bio-material itself, not including live viruses.
Why the fuck would you inject an infant with a vaccine knowing it's possibly tainted with any number of heavy metals or neurotoxins, such as what this guy posted..>>69977963
A single vaccine doesn't contain all of those but can contain more than one of those and there number of reports on this that get swept under the rug because they get to the heart of the reason why people don't want their children vaccinated.
It's not the vaccine, it's what they people in it on top of the material.
>>69983755
they put people in it*
>>69983755
>It's not the vaccine, it's what they people in it on top of the material.
You seem like an expert on the subject
>>69983787
FUCK, I meant "it's what they put in it on top of the bio-material"
>>69983796
It's called a typo buddy
>>69983755
>they get to the heart of the reason why people don't want their children vaccinated
Fear, ignorance, and backwards thinking is the heart of the problem. I'm all for personal choice, but when stupid decisions put others at risk, well, your right to swing your fists ends where my face begins.
>>69983439
It wasn't.
What do you want to tell me to make what I said wrong?
>>69983755
>>69983787
>>69983821
>It's called a typo buddy
Yeah well when you fuck up that badly twice in a row along with your half baked views on vaccines I'm inclined to think you're just retarded.
>>69983930
No evidence to suggest those things?
>>69983913
Legitimate fear of reported instances of heavy metals and neurotoxins in vaccines.
If you want to argue the point without sounding like you are using the simple "discreditor" tactics of ad hom and appeal to authority, you should find another anon. If the companies manufacturing the vaccines have admitted they've released tainted vaccines, the parents have every right to look out for the health of their children.
>>69983978
Classic, "you made a typo twice so you must be STUPID".
Great refutation in work. Stick to the facts, not the names.
Your shouting epithets will get you nowhere with me.
how can someone look at easily one of the most important medical discoveries in the history of humanity and then look at a series on long debunked studies and go "nope this must be a conspiracy I don't want my kid to catch autism"
>>69984093
>long debunked studies
Sorry that's a subjective statement without evidence.
The bigger question is how we let an important medical discovery like vaccines get tainted with metals and neurotoxins.
The problem isn't vaccines, it's oversight and quality control. Get that out of the vaccines and people will probably be more trustworthy.
>>69984028
There are, and they aren't ever documented/reported because big pharma is making hundreds of billions of dollars.
The ones that do get documented are discredited immediately to remove public traction. God, people have no idea how this shit affects growth development.
>This entire thread
antivax is literally a bunch of rednecks looking to get out of being convicted for shaking their babies
>>69980372
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>>69984159
>they aren't ever documented
that makes their authenticity very hard to verify, anon
>>69984315
>rednecks
Actually...
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/g1lev1/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-an-outbreak-of-liberal-idiocy
>>69984475
oh god it's spreading
everyone is shaking their babies
>>69984159
Literally the same arguments of global warming deniers
>>69984438
Understandable. I'm personally choosing not to trust big medical companies.
>>69984544
but you don't have any evidence of misconduct
meanwhile vaccines have a proven record of saving millions of lives
>>69984544
No, instead you're choosing to trust... nothing? You're literally saying that you have no evidence, but by dint of the fact that someone is making money they and their product are evil.
>>69984652
>a proven record
and you're certain that the reason there's movement against vaccines is because they're dumb and the records couldn't possibly be skewed?
>>69984704
are you seriously questioning the efficacy of vaccines
do you miss polio
>>69984704
You don't have evidence that they are ineffective.
There is evidence that they are effective.
You claim that the evidence is skewed.
You don't have evidence for this either.
Literally every part of your argument is baseless speculation, with absolutely nothing to back it up, against a huge body of evidence proving you wrong.
Yes goys err i mean boys, i'm sure the multi-national globalist trans-atlantic bilderberg conglomerate known as the WHO which is funded by banks from the US east coast has nothing but the best for public health in mind
>>69984752
>>69984789
My argument isn't that vaccines don't work, I'm saying that the cons of side-effects aren't documented nearly as much as the pros, which is hard to boot when you make a drug that cures something and then realize, "oh shit, this long-term problem can harm people, oh well, it's a small enough percentage"
mark my words, or don't, I'm an anonymous figment of your imagination, the future will tell of the times when an entire population was used as lab rats to perfect an imperfect drug.
>>69984862
This conversation is literally just people going, "I have evidence vaccines are good," and idiots replying, "but are they??????"
>>69977963
>hur dur scawy sounding kemikals
grow the fuck up
anyone who is not a complete retard knows toxicity is dependent of the dosage. 6 gallons of water is more likely to kill you than 1 microliter of antifreeze
>>69977963
Yeah,I got a question.
You're gay.
>>69984901
Honestly, though, if there are negative effects, it is a small enough percentage. These diseases ravaged mankind, and were the main cause of death for literally millenia. We beat the fucking shit out of them. Now, MAYBE, a fraction of a percent of people suffer negative consequences from the solution, but that's fucking nothing compared to the consequences of not using them.
>>69984901
>I'm saying that the cons of side-effects aren't documented nearly as much
so maybe you should document them
you know, scientifically
>>69984911
>>69984911
>Putting mercury into your veins directly is a good thing and benefits your health and won't lead to lead poisoning or anything like that
I don't think that's accurate
>>69984977
>These diseases ravaged mankind, and were the main cause of death for literally millenia.
And maybe we tooks risks to obliterate it because we had crude medicine that works.
Don't force me to eat your beta miracle juice that may or not hurt me. My life isn't a deal or no deal.
>>69985113
Once again, you have no evidence that they harm people, and we're already seeing diseases spike because of parents who aren't getting their kids their vaccines. Fighting against vaccines literally harms innocents who can't choose to protect themselves. That's fucking evil.
>take vaccines or you hate scientific progress
>download windows 10 if you have nothing to hide
>vote anti-gun if you don't kill people
>socialism works and you should vote for it if you are poor
>liberals
>>69985194
I'm a libertarian and I believe that the government should both require and pay for vaccines for children. They are that fucking important for saving lives.
>>69985231
>libertarian
you're a closet liberal
>>69984159
big pharma doesn't make much from vaccines. Most vaccines are given as a course once or twice in your lifetime. Compare that to drugs taken daily for other chronic illnesses or drugs with exclusive patents and you see how much money can be made. I agree there are large numbers of people taking them but they take them 1-2 times and there are multiple manufacturers for most vaccines.
>>69985089
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal_controversy#Scientific_consensus
>>69985089
mercury and lead are different elements
what you're suggesting is literally alchemy
>>69985255
But they have you take upwards of 10, starting at 2.
>>69985231
>he thinks that's libertarian
>>69985372
Those are the prices for prefilled syringes which are more expensive. reconstituted vials are cheaper. The funny thing is that isn't that expensive for medical treatment that you get 10 of (especially if it prevents or reduces the risk of an incredibly costly sickness). Shit nigga one diabetes med (glp 1 agonists etc) can run 400-600 dollars a month without insurance. Thats one medication for one chronic illness. Fucking boner bills are poorly covered by some health plans so even with insurance you paying 60 bucks a pill. Big pharma makes shit loads of cash but not from smalltime shit like vaccines. You see vaccine commercials on TV? hell no. You see their new brand name antidepressant that you take daily for years (not that antidepressants are not also SOMETIMES warranted).
>>69985824
>libertarianism is one coherent ideology
>libertarianism is anarchism
>libertarianism doesn't believe the government should protect its citizens from outside threats
I don't know which is your problem, but I'll mock you for whichever one you want.
>>69977963
>Aspertame
Oh no, aspartame! That entirely safe and commonplace ingredient!
HOW WILL WE SURVIVE?!!
>>69985902
>disease is an outside threat
>>69985832
None of those medications are necessary for the condition they treat.
Erectile dysfunction MAYBE, but that can be cured with therapy.
>>69978220
smallpox is literally an eradicated disease you ignorant fucking cunt
>>69986017
>diseased children aren't a threat to those who are literally incapable of getting the vaccine
>>69980372
kek
>>69986040
>literally everything imaginable can be construed as an outside threat
That's some fine cognitive dissonance there.
>>69986124
If you are physically incapable of protecting yourself, and these children can't, then it's the responsibility of the government to keep people from causing you harm. Choosing to allow yourself to get sick and then spreading that disease to people who have no option but to rely on herd protection should be a criminal offense.
Americlaps literally dying of curable diseases because "muh freedums"
Fucking embarrassing desu, senpai
I'm a libertarian but I think the government should be able to do whatever it wants and require people to do whatever it wants.
>>69986023
Thats not the argument fool. I know you don't know shit about treatment progression in type 2 diabetes besides googling what a glp1 agonist is. I'm trying to show you that vaccines are chump change compared to what Big pharma makes off of other medications. You think GLP-1 agonists aren't used? You think somebodies gonna lay off the cheeseburgers and choose a new lifestyle or have a doctor put them on more meds? Big Pharma could stop making vaccines and their profit margins would be barely effected.
If a 100 dollar injection lowers the risk of hospitalization (incredibly expensive events for insurance and providers) and illness it is almost assuredly worth it from a cost perspective.
>>69986395
I'm a marxist but I think that the workers are not exploited and that capitalism is the perfect economical system
>>69986247
Nobody has died from refusing a vaccine.
Nobody.
>>69986247
Don't you forget it.
>>69986450
>chump change compared to what Big pharma makes off of other medications.
YOU'RE missing the fact that just because it's small compared to one business, doesn't mean it isn't big at all.
Guys, did you know salt contains sodium AND chlorine.
I know I wouldnt put chlorine in my food
>>69986495
You're right, they died because their parents refused them.
http://www.bartbarrett.com/home/one-dead-child-two-foolish-parents
>>69976981
There probably is some truth to vaccines fucking kids up.
>>69986760
Why?
>>69986567
businesses exist to make money hell most pharmaceutical research is funded via profits from other medicines. A lot of this thread just sounds like people not liking that fact that businesses want to make money and not just magically create medicine, do research, and pay for scientists out of thin air and drop it out of the sky for everyone for free.
>>69986760
There probably is some truth to the Illuminati and to UFOs
>>69986864
And to be fair, they do drop it out of the sky for free for some countries. Drug Donations are one of the best things they do.
>>69986946
You're not wrong.
If vaccines are not harmful why has government given the drug companies a liability shield that makes them not responsible to damages caused by vaccines?
>>69986567
I acknowledge they make money. Thats what corporations are designed to do. But the idea that Big pharma is suppressing evidence for mass amounts of profit is highly suspect if 3% of their profits are from vaccines. I'm not even saying they don't do shady shit. There are lawsuits against these companies where they get sued by people and fined by the government when they get caught doing shit shady. Actively suppressing information on adverse effects rates or efficacy would be difficult once the public started to use them.
They make a little money off of vaccines. Vaccines work like they are supposed to and have relatively minor side effect profiles compared to most other real medical treatments (real treatments not hippy herbal crap).
>>69987002
Because lawsuits are expensive and idiots like you exist.
>>69986864
Big companies do take advantage of public sector research though. It does piss me off when publicly funded NHS grant type research allows a pharma company insight where they make billions.
>>69980372
You went past full retard and went straight to turbo retard
>>69986974
its great publicity and vaccines are pretty cheap to produce. I can only imagine how much of those and other projects are funded by old people who really want erections and are willing to pay for it.
>>69987107
Still have to produce it, which costs money. Does it feel kinda bad? Sure, but at least it saves lives. Honestly the best thing that could happen for America would be if Europe would stop pricefixing so we don't have to bear all the burden of medical R&D.
redpilled as fuck
Based Trump has spoken but I'm sure a bunch of libcucks from reddit who never went to college knows better than a multibillionaire
>>69987246
>>69980032
kek kek kekaroony
>>69976981
big pharma owns the media we'll never know
>>69976981
Get this DARPA funded meme campaign off my chons, rrrrrrRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>69976981
How can people be afraid of that when they irradiate themselves with computers, phones, tv that are everywhere?
>get pregnant
>eat garbage
>drink
>take painkillers
>get a caesarian
>child ends up retarded
>IT WUZ DA VACCINE FAULT
74% of all Amerifats
>>69987611
having kids after a certain age is also a huge risk factor for shit like autism.
>>69978525
You can't prove aliens didn't save us from measles.
>>69978671
>Dafuq is herd immunity and how would it even apply to this?
>No seriously I am a fucking retard spoon feed me guys.
Vaxxers btfo
>>69988429
Yes, that is exactly what happened here.
I've never looked into this particular conspiracy, but I am 100% certain that >le Illuminati is a real group, that they do control unimaginable power and influence, and that it is easily in their power to get bad shit into the vaccines for population control.
>>69988575
Please never have children.
>>69983112
>implying bananas don't create kaiju
Potassium makes you grow up healthy and strong.
>>69988575
I am 100% certain you are a real retard.
Has anyone in this thread watched the fucking movie? I don't care either way but it's obvious that nobody here has seen the content in question.
>>69989768
I don't need to watch every "jet fuel can't melt steel beams.avi" on youtube to understand that truthers are full of shit either.
>>69976981
>using red pilled unironically
this is the problem with america
you're willing to believe ludicrously stupid bullshit without a shred of evidence, but you're too fucking stupid and lazy to review evidence, so I guess that really does make sense.
>>69979127
go read about the flu vaccine; it changes it's protein coat extremely frequently due to being lucky ( it has more chances to change its protein whereas others don't have as many point mutation sites that won't prevent them from reproducing via blocking the encapsulation phase ) and so vaccines are 90% of the time the best guess at which of the newest strains will end up being the most virulent in practice
Let me break this down for you because it's something I do know.
1) protein coat is a tessellated monomer ( MC Escher style where one block added many times makes up a larger shape )
2) many strains are available/found in humans ( wild )
3) pick () strain, maybe a few, to make vaccine for ( # strains increase--> more negative affects for the vaccine and weaker its immune response ), which is why you can't pick all strains
...4) Maybe new strain is the most virulent ( spreads the most/quickest )
>>69989956
>tips fedora
So I guess you're an expert on 9/11 as well, eh? Explain tower 7. Or how both twin towers fell into themselves despite the planes not hitting or damaging equal stress points.
Oh wait you can't because you're just a faggot with a big ego.
>>69984079
>there are errors in medical practice
Wow that's brilliant man, why go to the doctor then ever?
Are you a vegan? Do you run/excersize at mod-high intensity an hour a day? Then stfu because you don't give a fuck about your health + you aren't qualified to comment on it
>ethylmercury
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/faqs.html
http://www.fairfaxpediatrics.com/Vaccine-Myths.html
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjAp_m6g_TMAhXD6YMKHWJ_A9gQFggmMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unep.org%2Fchemicalsandwaste%2FPortals%2F9%2FMercury%2FDocuments%2FINC3%2FUS_information.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFCbtBitB7F0PVVDrKl9101cV9Z_A&sig2=iwtm6A265zk3IupSA8Hjvw
Honestly you don't care about evidence; you pollards latch onto buzzwords like the memelords you are and never cease repeating them. You don't grow, you don't think, you just spread your virulent memes like a plague.
>>69990365
>vegans lecturing others on medical practices
How's that mountain climbing going?
>>69991784
>meaningless green text irrelevant to data posted
How's the non-sequitur brain of yours coming along? You people (redpilled pollards) are mindfucked self-indulgent imbeciles.
>>69992224
I'm not even an anti-vaxxer, I just think you're a fag.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/05/23/woman-trying-to-prove-vegans-can-do-anything-among-three-dead-on-everest-two-more-missing-and-thirty-sick-or-frostbitten/
>>69992253
that headline ended up in my feed as well! its so relevant to the data! being vegan has a tiny eco-footprint by comparison, lower incidences of cancer, better insulin control, and lower lifespans... Crying doesn't help, but pubmed could! I'm not vegan and I love meat, but I've had success in reducing my IBS symptoms trying it probably due to the fibre and lower oxidative load (AGEs and pro inflammatory recruitment via cooked meat).
it is really sad that the most frequented board is pol most of the time these days. Fucking retards
>>69992482
Awesome, too bad the correlation is so weak. It's almost like any group that watches what they eat will be healthier than the average citizen, and that's why almost every diet works initially.
>>69984901
>the future will tell of the times when an entire population was used as lab rats to perfect an imperfect drug.
Which is just one of the stupidest fucking things you could do
>>69977963
I swallowed the fingertip of a latex glove which contains 11000% the latex contained in a 200 injection round of common vaccinations 14 years ago; am I going to die soon?
>>69992590
>diets work initially
key sure pleb
calorie counting works tho!
>>69977963
same kid will say cigarettes boost your health
>>69992590
also none of these studies ever stratifies for baseline characteristics, nah fuck it.
kek stay red pilled friend
>>69992930
>>69993026
>calorie counting doesn't work!
>veganism is so good for you!
>if i'm sarcastic about how shitty vegan studies are when it comes to fixing for outside variables maybe he'll believe me
Man, this thread's been full of loonies, but you're pretty far out there.
>there are unironic antivaxxers on /poltv/
>>69977544
>dat pneumococcal
>>69983755
It's not tainted... it's on purpose to sensitize and trigger an immune response
>>69987246
That's like the one and only stain on Trump for me.
>>69993262
its almost like the "movement" was started by people who have no idea what the fuck their talking about.
>>69979486
That guy is retarded. Ethyl Mercury is an organometallic compound. The body gets rid of it in 18 days anyways.
>>69977716
>>69976981
>>69977963
>>69994597
So what you're saying is, pears cause autism?
>>69994639
Andrew pls go
>>69976981
>>69977963
you know what shit every breath of air you take contains?
>>69994639
dude im not lettin my kids eat pears yo
>>69994947
to be honest id love seeing people using this much reason when it came to food or air-pollution scares.
>>69995065
We've been genetically modifying food since we stopped hunting / gathering. Technically everything we eat should be labeled as a GMO, but people are too fucking stupid as a whole to see this.
>>69995148
we also consume traces of scary chemical shit every fucking day from the day we are born.
and those organic foods usually contain even more of that.
>>69995039
>>69994852
>>69986760
No drug is ever completely safe or completely perfect.
HOWEVER, the odds of a vaccine doing anything harmful are astronomically small. And when you compare the infinitesimally tiny chance of something going wrong to the massive health benefits both to the person getting the vaccine and to larger society, the benefits outweigh the possible disadvantages millions of times over.
This being said, autism is an absolute bitch of a thing and parents first start noticing the condition around the time the vaccine schedule kicks in. The two are not even vaguely related events but parents love their kids and want an explanation as to why this has happened out of nowhere. Cue predictable, understandable emotional response.
Unfortunately that response is very harmful. If I could have one wish granted I'd wish for an autism vaccine just to watch their minds implode from trying to deal with it. That it would make every other vaccine more appealing since the scariest supposed consequence would be off the table is just icing on the cake.
>>69985255
>These people exist
I want to kill myself just so I don't share the planet with these idiots
>>69987198
>Honestly the best thing that could happen for America would be if Europe would stop pricefixing so we don't have to bear all the burden of medical R&D.
The prices are fixed because Europe realises unchecked capitalism in that industry is bullshit. Pharmacy companies literally hold your quality of life, at minimum, and in a lot of conditions your life full stop to ransom, which pretty much lets them charge whatever the fuck they want.
Also prices aren't actually fixed, what happens is that patients pay a certain amount themselves for the drug and then the government covers the rest.
I have Crohn's Disease and the price per day to keep me in any semblance of a life I want to live runs to over $100 per day. Of that I personally only pay $2 or so which means I can do shit like have a roof over my head and buy food. Without the PBS paying the rest I'd either be homeless, dead, or have been eviscerated a long time ago.
