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Mary Sue
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>>69913246
How is she a Mary Sue? Is it just because she's an independent female lead?
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>>69913246
No she is Ray
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>>69913246
>WE GOTTA GIT TO DAT QUOD JUMPAH YOU BLOODY WANKAH
What did she mean by this?
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>>69913246
Yep
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>>69913246
hey max, talked to your father recently?
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>>69913246
She's just autistic.
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>>69913364
Because she can beat a years-trained Sith apprentice in lightsaber combat, aim a blaster better than most trained Rebellion infantrymen, pilots the Millennium Falcon better than Han Fucking Solo, and on top of all that, is really, really pretty.

All this while being some Tatooine dreg not even out of her teens. And she's a huge fangirl of the original cast to boot; that really brings out the Mary Sue fanfiction flair. Now all that's missing is her romancing Luke.
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>>69913596
>her romancing Luke
Leave that to Ira Belle
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>>69913596
So, a Jedi?

and do people forget she was already good at combat plus Kylo took a shot to the gut that was shown to kill multiple Stormtroopers and send them flying?
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>>69913719
you came here with the got crowd didnt you?
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>>69913246
Yes
I still enjoyed the film no meme
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>>69913719
>The force is with you, young Skywalker, but you are not a Jedi yet
took luke 3 episodes to become a jedi
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>>69913719
Luke had to be trained for months, even years by Yoda before he could beat Darth Vader, and that was just by the skin of his teeth. But here comes in Rey, having never touched a lightsaber in her life, beating this Sith who's been training for years. Imagine a California valley girl in high school beating a US Marine in hand-to-hand combat, without getting so much as a smudge on her makeup. That's what this is like. How does this not tear your willing suspension of disbelief to billions of subatomic ribbons?
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>>69913596
>Really, really pretty
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>>69913596
I think the most important point of a mary sue is that everyone who meets them instantly likes them.

Which is the case with Rey.
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Who's more of a Mary Sue, Bella Swan from Twilight, or Rey?
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>>69914175
>Hey Rey, we've known eachother for less than a day, want a job? Oh you'd rather go train with Master Luke Skywalker and become a Jedi? Sure thing, I'll make sure when I die my wife ignores Chewbacca, who she and I have known for years, to give you a hug even though you've never met before.
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>>69913246
Why does she look like a boy?
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>>69914330
>actually watching Twilight
oh
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>>69913815
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>>69913246
Here we go again, again on 4chan.
When does this meme end?
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>People blame the puppets and not the puppet master.
irl sith lord.
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>>69914774
she's a terrible actress
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>>69914815
probably, but her acting was fine for SW
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Baby Sue
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>>69914910
maybe for power rangers
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>>69914815
She's a really great actress. If you think she's bad you're not reading what she's doing.
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And Skywalker is a Mary Sue too so what's your point
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>>69914951
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>>69914330
She's from the original work she can not be a Mary Sue.

Mary Sue refers to a character added to an existing property usually in fan fiction who is poorly written and better than the main cast at just about everything.

The original Mary Sue character was this young cadet from star fleet who could out logic spock, out medicine bones, and was immune to kirks charms, ect. She also made all the right decisions never did anything wrong and died at the end sacrificing herself for the ship.

Ray fits the classical definition of a Mary Sue pretty well, especially that scene where she magically bypasses the hyperdrive out haning han.
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>>69915344
Keyword "usually" because original fiction that's able to get off the ground has at least a semi-decent author behind it in the vast majority of cases.

SW VII is one giant Canon Sue cash-in, and Ray is supposed to be a surrogate for preteen/teen girls. It might as well be a Mary Sue fanfic. It has about as much respect for the source material and talent in the writing department.
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>>69913246
this applies to the black guy too
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>>69916071
>is constantly shat on to make her look better
>gets his spine slashed at the end
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>>69916071
Fynn is horrible too.
>becomes a traitor because "waa kiwwin civiwians makes me all saddy waddy"
>proceeds to kill his former comrades-in-arms in droves without a shred of remorse

The sad part is he could've had a really interesting character arc that explored the humanity of the average Imperial footsoldier. But instead, we get this >>69916115
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>>69916186
kinda wish Finn and Rey were one character
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Enough of this nonsense
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>>69913719
>Kylo took a shot to the gut that was shown to kill multiple Stormtroopers

Ah, and Leia took a shot in the hand that was shown to burn stuff up (in ROTJ).

The blaster shots' power can be regulated. Chewie wasn't shooting for the kill, otherwise Kylo would outright burn and be sent flying.

And if he wasn't burnt or flying, then the feelings of pain and anger he experienced after getting wounded should have amplified his Dark Side conduit immediately. It's Sith Fighting Style 101.
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>>69916430
>t. tumblr
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>>69913495
SINS OF THE FATHER
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>>69916430
>conservatively speaking a Mary Sue is a non-canon character who "steals the story" from canon characters.
Wew lad. Rey-Rey Sue is like the epitome of a Mary Sue in this regard.
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>>69916537
Chewie was using a bowcaster (which can only be fired by Wookies due to the recoil, so I don't know how Han was suddenly able to use it), which is much stronger than a regular blaster.

But I agree with the wound. Pretty sure JJ intended for it to be a source of strength, despite TFA apologists using it to defend that fight. You can see him punch his wound too, to get some sort of Dark Side adrenaline rush
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>>69916376
Why would you want to a mix raced hermaphrodite as the main character?
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>>69916693
>I punched my wound to see if I could still feel

We have an even more whiny Anakin as an antagonist and an atrocious Mary Sue as a protagonist. With a plot that's ripped off the original beat-for-beat and a writing staff that seems intent on raping all those classic characters that we liked while still making ham-fisted copies of them. Wow, what a wonderful trilogy this'll be!
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>>69916865
Wait until the next one
>Luke is now gay
>Rey is an even bigger Mary Sue
>More Whedon quips
>50% is ripped off from Empire Strikes Back, the other 50% ripped off from KOTOR
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>>69914330
Bella wasn't. She did stupid shit and had to be saved all the time.
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>>69915846
>canon

Nope. Its fan fiction with a huge budget. If I buy a painting from a famous painter and add on my doodles to the edges, those doodles aren't part of his legacy
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