YOU COULD HAVE THE POWER OF THE GODS! YET YOU WEAR A FLAG ON YOUR CHEST AND THINK YOU FIGHT A BATTLE OF NATIONS! I HAVE SEEN THE FUTURE, CAPTAIN! THERE ARE NO FLAGS!
>>69909588
Well technically he is right. Nation-states have only been around the past 200-300 years or so. Lord knows if they have the staying power empires fucking had.
>>69909588
Did he really say this? Would make him cooler. The movie did a good thing with cutting him off from the NAZIS; but Hydra itself just gets 'we're in this for power/to safeguard people from themselves' shlock.
>>69909727
>implying taking him away from nazis was not just a kike move to sell more toys
>>69909588
I would expect nothing less from Merkel. That bitch needs to be hanged for her crimes.
>>69909637
>Nation-states have only been around the past 200-300 years or so
I don't have a reaction image to convey how fucking stupid you are
>>69909970
You don't know what a nation state is , do you?
>>69910173
>if I make up my own definitions I can never be proven wrong
>>69910173
putting that poli-sci degree to good use, I see.
>>69909809
true
>>69909588
I forgot about that line.
Pretty cool now to realize that all three captain America movies are overly anti globalism
When the first movie was announced I expexpected a neutered Captain UN - type thanks to Jewywood, but then in the last movie the UN is literally an antagonist
Pretty amazing to think about in this day and age that non cuck propaganda is making billions
>>69910253
apparently even the writers of the movie thought Captain was wrong and Tony was in the right.
>>69910220
>if I use greentext and a funny reaction meme I'll show him how wrong he is
This place is full of idiots
Worst board desu
>>69909588
>RED Skull
>he isn't a communist
That's pretty stupid.
>>69910305
>spew garbage
>people laugh at garbage
>IF YOU DON'T DEBATE MY GARBAGE I WIN
>>69910220
>>69909970
Fucking idiot detected. The era of nation states only began approximately at the time of peace of westphalia. Countries are not nation states. Nationalism as a concept is something we only invented in Europe over the course of hundreds of years.
Fucking read a text book.
>Characters that literally did nothing wrong
>>69910424
Kill yourself desu senpai
>>69909758
It was also a way of releasing the film in Germany without having to make any changes. Even when the Nazi officers visit, who are wearing Swastika armbands, they're very careful never to show it.
>>69909637
You are right. Modern concept of nation states (together with sovereignity within borders and so on) is a result of westphalian system. However states per se are much older and this system will never disappear.
In future it might not be nation states. It might be large multinational bodies or even corporations or whatever, but humankind will literally never be entirely united.
"YOU ARE DELUDED, CAPTAIN.
YOU PRETEND TO BE A SIMPLE SOLDIER BUT IN REALITY YOU ARE JUST AFRAID TO ADMIT THAT WE HAVE LEFT HUMANITY BEHIND. UNLIKE YOU, I EMBRACE IT PROUDLY, WITHOUT FEAR."
Truly the best Marvel villain.
>>69909588
How old were you when you grew out of idolizing Captain America and realized Red Skull was right about everything?
#therearenoborders
>>69910541
He really was great. People need to ham it up more the way Hugo did.
>>69910532
>mankind will never be united because I say so
>>69910532
I think it's possible. If Germans or Italians were able to do it Europe can do it too.
I think religion and culture is the biggest problem right now. Especially Islam and shitty third world countries.
EU may collapse but only because the society wasn't ready for the unification. Not all revolutions were successful.
![AC5FRSP[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/XbhAJml.png "AC5FRSP[1].png")
>>69910541
>YOU ARE JUST AFRAID TO ADMIT THAT WE HAVE LEFT HUMANITY BEHIND
>>69910641
Or, ya know, because of the countless pieces of evidence that states trump globalism and the severe lack of evidence for the appeal of globalism for anybody but the super rich.
>>69910914
>hurr durr the 1%
>this is true too because I say so, I know all history and the future and the problems of why the world beyond my basement can't be united from browsing 4chan
ding ding ding
>>69911027
I know history.
Everything beyond that is speculation, but when you have such a tremendous pile of evidence saying "this is good", and another saying "this is bad", it's not hard to draw a conclusion.
Obviously you're barely intelligent enough to read so I don't really know why I'm giving you this (you) but there you go.
>>69909588
We're not so different, you and I.
>>69910301
Then they should probably watch the rest of the MCU movies, because none of that made any sense at all. Even fucking Tony didn't agree with the government when they shot a nuke at New York.
I don't understand why people kept saying Tony was right when there has never been a single instance in any of these movies of competent government action. Not a single fucking one. On top of that, General Ross is a psychopath.
I really am not sure why everybody says Tony was right. It's like they heard the stupid nuclear weapons argument and stopped hearing anything else.
Like, what was the UN going to force the Avengers to do that they weren't already doing, that was going to help? Tell them not to cause collateral damage? Like they were doing it on purpose?
Really did not understand the conflict of this movie. It's like everybody forgot what the government in MCU is: totally useless.
>>69909588
>>69911472
>but when you have such a tremendous pile of evidence saying "this is good", and another saying "this is bad"
Elaborate
>>69912023
Well first of all is nationalism is important. People willing to fight and die for their country are important, because why else would Britain stop the Germans in WW2? They did it for Britain, without that you get a nation waiting to be conquered, although you could argue that isn't too relevant to today, people called WW1 the "Great War" because of similar sentiment. In a globalist world, money is EVERYTHING corporations will rule, because what else is there?
Globalism is a decrease in the quality of life for all but the rich in developed countries. You could argue that it's a "net gain" in standard of living for humanity as a whole, but if you look at the numbers, you'll see that even taking in millions of refugees is a tiny drop in the ocean of humanity, and yet the damage it does to the host is huge, for example the Romans taking in Germanic refugees was a fucking stupid move that contributed to the decline in no small way. Also the breeding rates in shitpoor countries refugees come from is HUGE, the healing done will be lost in a tiny amount of time, while the damage to the host will take much longer to heal.
Multiculturalism has never worked. Not just in the western world, look at India for an example, where the tale of two cultures, and this is just cultures, paints one of the bloodiest tapestries in history. People of different races can co-exist fine, but different creeds is just asking for trouble, and it has been shown time and time again. I've used Romans as a point against it, but in a "pro globalism" point, Romans simply added the gods of some conquered to their pantheon, as a means of integrating them into Roman culture, because they knew what would happen if they didn't.
It's simply not suited for democracy. Look at the EU, and the UN, both are VERY loosely democratic, so putting more power in transnational things like that, is again taking power off of the poor, and giving it to the rich.
>>69912480
And of course in modern examples, I'll admit the problems Sweden has self inflicted are overstated often, but the fact that they have self inflicted problems, and not small ones on themselves with their infatuation with their "coexist" multicultural agenda can't be ignored, to the point where Norway, historically close as fuck with Sweden, has threatened to close off borders with Sweden if things get much worse because they are THAT bad. This is flying in the face of the Schengen Zone and the Geneva Convention, and this is Norway and Sweden. That should give you an accurate picture of how bad these policies have been for Sweden.
In long and short, the way it has been shown by empires, is that the only way to bring people of different cultures together in any decent way is by uniting them into one, stronger culture. Nationalism in the US was (and still is) HUGE, something that could push through barriers to form a monoculture for unity.
"Diversity is our strength" is bullshit. "Divided we fall" is the much older, and much more accurate term.
>>69910440
>nationalism is something Europeans invented
so unbelievably arrogant. Coming up with a word for it doesn't mean you "invented it" whiteboi
>>69912480
But WW1 and WW2 happened because of nationalism. How is this good, again?
>>69911958
His final form looks like shit
At least the before looked cool
>>69913004
And both were solved by Nationalism. Globalism could only work if every single country were going to be globalist. And that could never happen, due to human nature, which has innate Tribalism.
>I suspect that even most conservatives would prefer to live in the kind of world conjured up in the liberals' imagination rather than in the kind of world we are in fact stuck with
-Thomas Sowell
Globalism is a fairy tale promised land of the cult of multiculturalism that has no basis in reality.
>>69913123
>And both were solved by Nationalism.
Except that means they wouldn't start without nationalism.
>And that could never happen, due to human nature
Except modern nationalism is a fairly new phenomenon. And multiculturalism works pretty well in many European countries. Sure there are problems, but it's not like nationalism didn't cause much bigger problems.
>>69909588
>try to make a world better place
>some skinsuit faggot send by the goverment always kills you
What did Marvel mean by this? Are we all slaves to the machine who have no right to have hope of better tomorrow? Batman Superman etc. arent there to protect people it´s to stop people from ever becoming more than working class machine parts that produce money for the CEOs
Upkeeping modern slavery = Heroism. So it´s not a hero. Oh yeah and you dont got problem with murderers when a good guy is murdering or when goverment slave office does it, but good god if an ugly weird guy murders and has dreams for better tomorrow, you need to execute that shit.
>>69913233
>Except that means they wouldn't start without nationalism.
"If there were no armies there would be no war" level of retard speculation.
>>69913233
>Except modern nationalism is a fairly new phenomenon. And multiculturalism works pretty well in many European countries. Sure there are problems, but it's not like nationalism didn't cause much bigger problems.
European countries are cracking and fighting defiantly against this because it is NOT working. Paris, for an example, is not a "multicultural paradise", for one it is a shithole, the most romantic city in the world reduced to a crime ridden beggar haven, for two, there are enclaves of each culture and none of them mix more than they have to. The people tend to stick with their own, just like human nature, and no Parisian is better off for it. And for London? If you sw the demographic breakdown of the voting, you'd realise why Nationalism, unity, trumps Diversity, division. Because those Muzzies haven't been deluded into thinking united we fall.
Sweet Jesus I hope Hofer wins his election.
>>69913233
Multiculturalism is not working, especially in Europe. For fuck sake, even Merkel, Sarkozy and Cameron said it didn't work.
>>69911602
Working under the UN is LITERALLY a scapegoat for the Avengers to pretty much do what they please during missions.
It's a paycheck for the Avengers.
And in return, the world rests a little easier with their illusion of control.
The UN, despite all its flaws, is still not HYDRA.
And the notion that the Avengers DON'T need supervision of any kind, is literally retarded, and only looking at the conflict from a meta perspective where you, the viewer, knows the Avengers are the good guys.
>>69913518
>nationalism is working!
>Franco-Prussian War
>WW1
>WW2
>National Socialism
Nationalism killed way more people than multiculturalism.
>>69913605
I didn't say nationalism worked, only that multiculturalism didn't. Go deflect arguments elsewhere, nigger.
>>69910541
Guy needs to come back and actually win.
>>69913671
There are always some problems. No country is perfect. Globalism can work, it just needs some reforms.
>>69913605
Those wars all started because of opposition to German nationalism.
More importantly, all countries were nationalist at the time, and they'd lasted for centuries under nationalism. A few wars be damned, civilisation was stable. We've had multiculturalism for less than a generation, and the edifice is already crumbling.
>>69913763
"Communism can work it just needs some reforms"
"National socialism can work it just needs some reforms"
>>69909588
>Marxist villain
How did the jews let this happen?
>>69913793
>civilization was stable
lol, you have no idea what you are talking about.
>>69913763
Cameron, Merkel and Sarkozy didn't say there were some problems with multiculturalism, they said it FAILED. As in epic fail. Do you know what failed fucking means? If you don't, just look at communism as an example of a failed theory.
>>69909588
>I HAVE SEEN THE FUTURE, CAPTAIN! THERE ARE NO FLAGS!
How would that work actually? Serious question here. How can there not be multiple rulers. You can't expect one person to manage the entire world. There's this thing called division of labor.
Is it just me or were the Captain America movies really anti-american?
>>69913900
What do you consider stable?
>>69910665
kalergi get out
>>69909588
>tv pretends Red Skull wasn't great in this movie
>tv pretends CAFA wasn't fun as fuck and tied with IM for best Phase 1 movie
>>69913763
"Just one more try we'll get it right this time I swear".
Too many tries. Too many failures. And of course, the fact that Nationailsm is like a gun. In an ideal world, we wouldn't need them. In the real world, the person with the gun always has the advantage over the person without.
>>69913233
>multiculturalism works pretty well in many European countries
as a swede, lol
>>69913986
A time period without any big wars or revolutions.
Post 1945 Western Europe is a good example.
>>69913900
How long did the British empire last for? How long did France maintain not just its own borders, but those of its colonies, under nationalism? Or how about you cut to the chase and name a single society that became great while being multicultural?
>>69913984
They were anti-globalist. It's sad that American identity has become so bound up with the globalist agenda. They need to take their country back, and hopefully Trump will be the first step towards doing that.
>>69914093
> post 1945
wtf? We almost had fucking nuclear armageddon
>>69914127
>British Empire
>French Empire
>nationalism
>>69914196
>almost
>>69914093
>wars are instability even if they happen on foreign soil
>demographic decline, falling birthrates, and literal replacement migration are not instability
>>69914214
Yes, nationalism. You can't even argue that it "wasn't real nationalism" because muh westphalia, they were modern nation states whose culture was bound together by a sense of pride and unity between their people.
>>69914241
> Almost blew ourselves the fuck up
> stable
>>69913829
to be fair national socialism was tried like twice
>>69914214
My greatest happiness is to serve my gracious King and Country and I am envious only of glory; for if it be a sin to covet glory I am the most offending soul alive - Horatio Nelson
You delusional retard of a failed abortion.
>>69914325
And it was more successful than capitalism or communism ever was. Too bad western "intellectuals" conflate losing a war with being a failed system of government.
>>69914303
Jesus, the empire could exist only because nationalism didn't exist in their colonies. It literally fell apart when nationalism became widespread.
>>69914196
>1945 Western Europe
>Western Europe
dumbass
>>69909588
>hurr durr imma right yu are wrong!!!
I'd say it's a shitty writting, But then again, it's marvel.
>>69914214
>>French Empire
>>nationalism
u fucking wot m8? French revolution was the main reason for nationalism rise in Europe.
>>69914389
The empire was nationalist, the subjugation of the colonies was aided by ensuring their nationalism was suppressed, and they threw off the yoke by becoming nationalist. Thank you for proving my point that nationalism is the hallmark of a successful society, and rejection of nationalism is suicide.
>>69914449
Yes, and it collapsed because of the nationalism. Every war of independence happened because of that.
>>69914449
Literally every major society since the dawn of time has been nationalist. You may make the semantic argument that they didn't fit the modern definition of a nation state, but they all practiced some form of tribalism which is essentially the same thing.
Nationalism is ultimately a strong social in-group preference, as opposed to the multicultural ideal of "everyone matters equally" or even the modern reality of "the out-group matters more." It's the only sustainable system.
>>69914477
>nationalism is the hallmark of a successful society
Are you calling the former colonies successful?
>2016
>supporting the false song of globalism
>>69914557
Yup, there weren't any peasant uprisings or civil wars.
>>69914571
>no society can be successful without nationalism
>therefore every nationalist society must be successful
See where you're going wrong here?
>>69914399
> even though they almost launched nukes and been nuked they weren't fighting eachother so things were stable with those countries
>>69914608
None that threatened total extinction, no. Remind me, how are the native birth rates in the modern multicultural west?
>>69914676
>how are the native birth rates in the modern multicultural west
how are the native birth rates in modern not multicultural Japan?
>>69914571
communism and a lot of uneducated people whos governments were corrupted by globalists
>>69910541
I love that scene where the Nazis realize he's going to destroy Berlin on top of everything else. I thought it really showed the level of threat Skull posed.
>>69914093
someone's forgetting about the iberian peninsula
>>69914780
so how was he going to deal with the communists because just blowing up Moscow wouldn't have taken them down
>>69914731
Notice how Japanese birthrates started declining after they got buttfucked for daring to be nationalist? They may not have the demographics for a multicultural nation, but they sure as hell have the mentality. Their spirit has been broken.
>>69914880
birthrates for japan are fine they're overpopulated as is
>>69909637
>Nation-states have only been around the past 200-300 years or so.
American ''''''''''''''' education ''''''''''''''' everyone
>>69914880
What about Poland or Hungary, or white Russians? Or virtually any developed country?
>after they got buttfucked for daring to be nationalist
That's wrong, though.
>>69914731
Well that's the point, the west is important savages because the rich need their workforce. Japan is retaining it's identity.
Native birth rate falling in advanced societies should be cured by, I don't want to say national socialism, but a form of socialism with tight border control, so that advancement in automation can pick up the slack for the ageing population to live comfortably, and create a low crime utopia for the decreasing citizens.
Importing a bunch of violent rapey retards is not an ideal solution though.
>>69914992
>Japan is retaining it's identity
And slowly dying out. What do you think they will do in the future?
>>69914853
It was more about showing HYDRA's dominance. Once he hit the major cities of the world so quickly with so much power at once, the world would be in a standstill long enough to take the major nations down.
>>69913984
The dynamic of MCU Cap is to illustrate the death of the Pax Americana and critique the tendency of the US to be blinded to current failures by past successes.
>>69915039
again how their army is crushed and they used up all their bombs now that the factories are destroyed and the main base captured and hydra burned the bridge with Nazi Germany
>>69914992
I mean, I'll add that even Milton Friedman, open borders advocate, said that the nanny state and open borders are just a retarded duo of policies. Even scaled down, they're harmful. Open the doors for anyone with a bunch of socialised services and you're gonna fuck over your citizens, every time. Also, I meant to say imported in that first line of that post, not important.
>>69915033
What does population decrease matter if automation can pick up the slack, Japan being a pioneer in robotics? Why is it so bad?
>>69914914
are you dumb
>>69909588
You hear that Mr. Anderson?... That is the sound of inevitability... It is the sound of your death... Goodbye, Mr. Anderson...
>>69915119
>What does population decrease matter if automation can pick up the slack, Japan being a pioneer in robotics? Why is it so bad?
I mean I'll add that Tokyo, Kyoto have population densities of around 6000 per square kilometre. Why does it matter if the herd thins out in literally the least violent, most humane way possible? It's not like more humans is GOOD for the earth, although I'm not one of those environmentalist dipshits who think we're even close to capacity.
>>69915119
I agree with you about mass immigration. It's not a good way to solve things. However, the most civilized Western countries could unify even today. Like I said, we are just not ready for it, but I hope it will happen in the future.
>>69909588
Nationalism and patriotism are an infantile disease. They are the measles of mankind.
>>69915362
would he change his stance if he saw what was happening today
>>69912480
>Well first of all is nationalism is important. People willing to fight and die for their country are important
First of all: Nation is a people, not a country.
>People of different races can co-exist fine,
Not in a long term successful manner. Culture and race go hand in hand, india also has many races, they call them "castes"
>>69915362
jude
>>69915362
Einstein is a jew
Thats where that sentiment comes from
>>69915387
No he would be an anti-white left wing jew talking about the "rise of fascism" in regards to Trump
>>69915409
The caste system isn't based on race.
>>69915409
castes also have a very religious thing about them your born into it based on how you lived in the last life you lived
>people arguing about a future, that literally a neckbeard comic writer predicted
>>69915445
I will drink the tastiest beer of my life the day Soros finally kicks the fucking bucket.
>>69915387
>>69915430
>>69915445
He saw the Second World War. He saw everything he need to see.
>>69915033
Japan has time on their side. Even in the midst of dramatic population decline they still have a stable peaceful lawful society and at least another 2-3 generations to undertake internal reforms turn things around.
Europe is literally in freefall, crime is going through the roof, large scale terrorist attacks are becoming a bi-yearly occurrence, their budgets are groaning under the weight of social spending on immigrants that will NEVER see any return. In 50 years half of the continent will be a blood bath.
This is what happens when globalist politicians pursue the leftist dream and capitalist "easy fixes".
>nationalism works
>le master race
>we wuz aryans
>Hitler did nothing wrong xd
/pol/'s anti-intellectualism strikes again.
>>69915033
Japan might see a reduced population in the next 50 years, or maybe things will change dramatically, who knows.
Whereas America is approaching 50% white overall population, below 50% white among the young, this GUARRANTEES the death of the country within our lifetimes
At some point we will ether have war, or whites go peacefully into extinction
YOU MERELY ADOPTED THE FUTURE!
I WAS BORN INTO IT - MOLDED BY IT.
>>69915614
Nobody said any of those last 3 points
>>69915569
he didn't see nearly enough of it
>>69915581
>50 years
it could go to shit in less then 1
>>69915614
no one brought up the last 3 points assuming nationalism equals Hitler is a pretty big assumption
>>69915614
What I see from the nationalists in this is well reasoned arguments.
I don't even see an ATTEMPT of arguments from the Globalist side, the closest I see is "It sucked but maybe next time it will work?"
If these people are anti intellectuals than you're straight up retarded.
>>69915581
>In 50 years half of the continent will be a blood bath
Makes me wonder what will be the next apocalypse predicted by armchair philosophers.
>>69915676
Nationalism equalling Hitler is how we've got to this point
World War 2 was a grand war against the "evils" of nationalism/fascism/racialism/all right wing thing
As well the monarchy in Britain who were against the war were shown to be powerless.
The marxists and progressives have been defining the narrative since WW2, they've been running the show.
>>69915801
>World War 2 was a grand war against the "evils" of nationalism/fascism/racialism/all right wing thing
It was a war against a crazy psychopaths who wanted to conquer half of Europe and exterminate people they considered subhuman, you retarded /pol/cuck.
You know, it was Hitler who started the war.
>>69915916
>It was a war against a crazy psychopaths who wanted to conquer half of Europe and exterminate people
So why did you stop halfway?
>>69915916
>DEY WERE FIGHTING AGAINST EBUL!
Lol grow up, kid.
>>69915916
>It was a war against a crazy psychopaths who wanted to conquer half of Europe and exterminate people they considered subhuman
Wouldn't surprise me if this was word from word from an American textbook
>>69915949
Stopped what?
>>69915988
Please tell me where I'm wrong.
>>69915916
britan would start a war with any country that got too strong on the continent
>>69909588
dude how can i go on /int/ then and see flags?
lol
>>69916028
Hitler was a good man and an inspiration who went from sleeping on park benches to being der Fuhrer. He liked doggies. Also he was vastly preferable to Communism but the Americans led by President Rosenfeld (FDR's true, Jewish name) didn't care for Hitler's anti-globalist, anti-usurer rhetoric.
>>69916034
So why didn't they start a war with Germany in 1871?
>>69916034
>Nations said they would declare war on hitler if he invades poland
> hitler invades poland
> IT WUS BRITANS FULT
>>69916099
it wasn't strong enough yet
>>69916100
declared to help protect Poland from aggression and let it get taken over by the soviets not very helpful
>>69916099
The Anglos fear the Bismarck
>>69916099
And why was it germany basically vs everyone in ww1 and not britain vs everyone?
>>69916134
>it wasn't strong enough yet
kek, they defeated France, which was considered the most powerful country on the continent.
>>69915995
>a war against a crazy psychopaths who wanted to conquer half of Europe
You stopped Hitler conquest of Western Europe, so if it was was against psychopaths, why didn't you stop Stalin's conquest of Eastern Europe?
If you are claiming that the West were fighting an ideological war against fascism and tyranny then you lost as you failed to stop the Bolshevik onslaught and only side of conflicted that can be considered as a winner is the Soviet Union, as following WW2 they succeeded in spreading communism to nearly half the world and made massive land and influence gains.
>>69916100
The two world wars were stupidly complex situations and many factors counted towards the start of both wars, but if you think that Britain, the greatest power of the time, trying to make sure it'd remain in power, wasn't a factor then you need to take some time out.
>>69911958
JUST
>>69916227
>why didn't you stop Stalin's conquest of Eastern Europe?
Possibly because it was impossible. The Soviet Union was way too powerful at the end of the war to stop it.
>>69909588
reminder that he's not dead and that the cosmic cube was a container for the space gem that allows its users to teleport across vast distances
>>69916198
on the continent yes but the Germans didn't have a navy to really threaten Britain
>>69916322
think well see him in ragnarok
>>69916307
>The Soviet Union was way too powerful at the end of the war to stop it
Christ, it's 9 AM and this is the first stupid thing I read today. It's going to be a long day.
>>69915988
>>69915988
There are a LOT of people who think Hitler wanted to tour the world killing everyone who wasn't a blue eyed blonde haired Aryan god.
A lot of them teach. Ask them why the Japanese allied with Nazi's they'll give you blank looks.
>>69916361
How is this stupid? People were tired of war and the Soviet Union had the biggest army in Europe. What are you even suggesting? Nukes?
>>69916377
Don't worry, Hitler's apologists know even less about the Nazis and WW2.
>>69916398
>What are you even suggesting? Nukes?
We should have done that before they had their spies like Julius and Ethel ROSENBERG steal from us.
>>69916398
Wherever you're getting your information from, it's completely wrong, the Soviet Union's armies were not a factor in the decision to stop the fighting in Europe, after the war all of the nations that fought were mostly in ruins, and the armies were stretched very thin, to continue fighting would not be good business.
>>69909588
NOT MY FUTURE!
>>69916100
I'm not saying Germany is in the right but I'll give you 4 nice Churchill quotes.
"History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it."
"We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not."
"This war is an English war and its goal is the destruction of Germany."
"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies."
And then let me give you just one more Churchill quote.
Germanys unforgivable crime before WW2 was its attempt to loosen its economy out of the world trade system and to build up an own exchange system from which the world-finance couldnt profit anymore. ...We butchered the wrong pig."
Draw from them what you will. >>69916463
But if you think the war was about Poland, you are simply wrong.
>>69916657
Why would they even fight against their allies? The Western countries believed Stalin isn't that bad and even called him Uncle Joe.
>it's a /pol/ takes shitposting serious thread
>>69909727
Dude? Did you even watch his movie.
That was his EXACT line
https://youtu.be/Ys9CDX32yIM?t=81
>>69916791
>Germanys unforgivable crime before WW2 was its attempt to loosen its economy out of the world trade system and to build up an own exchange system from which the world-finance couldnt profit anymore. ...We butchered the wrong pig."
You know this is a fake quote?
>>69916791
Can you give me a link to those quotes? I'd like to know more of what he said
>>69916955
It will be some neo-Nazi site.
>>69917000
Yeah they are, just checked
>>69914091
Pretty much every time I hear about a shooting or murder on the news, the criminal is identified as someone with a durka durka mohumed name.
>>69909588
It's 1943. You're on the wrong side of history. Come on!
>>69914373
???
maybe its anti nazi propaganda but im pretty sure that the per capita of nazi germany was way lower than before, not to mention that the war mongering killed food prices due to inflation and shit
>>69909588
Has he seen this flag?
>>69915614
what the hell is an actual intellectual anyway?
as in the buzzword not the meme
>>69909637
>Nation-states have only been around the past 200-300 years or so.
So basically he's a crazy left winger while captain america is a conservative.
lmao
Is he kill?
>>69910541
I really hope he comes back. He was wasted in a mediocre film and the ending heavily implied that he's still alive.
>>69919921
Hugo Weaving said no to making a return.
>>69909588
Proof that Globalists are worse than even the nazi's.
>>69919969
Just get idris elba to play him
>>69913594
>the UN isn't Hydra
M8
>it's just a scapegoat, it doesn't mean anything
Then there is no reason to sign it. Why would anybody sign over their life to an organization that is probably Hydra for PR? Tony is a fucking retard who has done nothing but fuck up in every movie, his support makes me less likely to agree with the UN.
>>69917820
probably, you just don't become a homofobe without seeing a pride festival
>>69911958
His poor mother.
>>69920204
UN is completely useless tho, the entire middle-east problem could've been avoided if it wasn't for countries with veto power in the UN
>>69920465
>we're harmless I swear, now just sign here next to the X
Obviously Hydra. They're just waiting for the right moment to go full reichmode.
>>69918422
>>69914914
>>69909970
You guys just straight up don't know history, or live in one of those EXTREMELY FEW old national countries like France, Britain and Spain.
Learn the history of Germany, Italy, Greece. As a Bosnian what the Bosnian nation means to him.
The worst part is that you will not learn anything.
C U C K
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>>69919969
>>69919921
>>69910541
>>69913742
>Richard Sammel as Dell Rusk
MARVEL PLEASE
>>69920646
britain as a "nation" is fairly new, historically speaking. Even to this day, its national identity is essentially "the conqueror and the conquered".
>>69919969
Well that sucks balls.
>>69920646
>bosnian nation
The only real bosnian nation is a mass grave.
>>69920924
well 1720s isn't particularly 'new' for a state but the concept of a British nation goes back to Roman Britain which is obviously why we use the Roman term Pretani (later 'British' to refer to the isles as a whole.
>>69920139
I'll never not be mad.
>>69914914
The word "Nation" isn't synonymous with "country" and "nationalism" doesn't mean "super patriotism" you massive fucking retard. The concept of a nation state was roughly invented in 1648 after the Treaty of Westphalia and nationalism is the desire for a nation to receive its own sovereign statehood thus becoming a "Nation-State". Fuck I hate stupid people who are undeservedly self-assured in what they are saying
Most other places besides western Europe had only adopted the concept willingly within the past 100 to 200 years; many decolonized nation-states were forced to accept it which is immediate cause of a lot of turmoil in the middle east and West/Central Africa were Eurocentric abstract concepts like Nationalism are not readily compatible with their cultural traditions
So yes, he is absolutely right: Most countries have only adopted the "Nation-State" paradigm within the past 100 to 150ish years.
The whole world isn't Europe you ignorant retard
>>69918422
>>69909970
>>69914914
>I cannot differentiate between Nation-State and Nation.
You retarded fucktards are the reason the word Nation is mangled as fuck to automatically mean "country."
If so then no fucking problem for the Arab nation then, eh? OH WAIT THEY CAN'T UNITE FOR SHIT BECAUSE AS IT TURNS OUT THE ARAB NATION HAS INTERNAL DIVISIONS THAT TRUMP NATIONAL IDENTITY, SUCH AS TRIBAL AND RELIGIOUS AFFILIATIONS.
Basic idiots.
>>69921355
This. This so fucking hard.
Places in the Middle East don't even like arbitrary colonial bullshit that they were forced into by Euros (British, French) after WW1. It's why Pan-Arab Ba'ath Party was so popular over there.
Same with Indian nationalism. I remember reading about Indian Nationalist Congress and the debates they had over what Indian nationalism even meant because in reality all the different kingdoms that existed before British rule were diverse and markedly different in temperment and language from each other.
>>69910677
>re watching CA:TFA
>red skull speech
>Ricardo Panini instantly came to mind
>whatever it takes captain
>>69921229
>The whole world isn't Europe you ignorant retard
yes it is
>>69915081
>DEEPEST LORE
seriously tho this is how to interweave messages into your films, not like the hamfisted treatment BvS had.
>>69921840
Sick meme response. You know what the worst part is? You probably think that was an acceptable and well reasoned response.
daily reminder that the majority of the ills of the world are made by Europeans
>Jewish State
>Brits: Balfour Declaration
>"American Degenerates"
>Brits
>Most of the destructive wars of the pasy century
>Yuroscum
>>69910541
1. Kingpin
2. Red Skull
3. Loki
>>69922190
I like how you didn't mention Germans who started two world wars.
You Nazicucks are so fucking delusional.
>>69922222
One of the worst gets I've ever seen
>>69922222
uh oh
>>69922239
They're lumped up with Yuroscum famalam
Britbongs were also at fault because they sat on their asses. Hitler himself told everybody that had the British acted when they invaded Poland the war would have ended there.
>>69922239
BRITEN STARTED THEM BOTH REEE
>>69922190
And now they're paying for it with their daughters' pussies lmao.
>tfw retribution came in the form of Arab rapists
>>69915081
America has a pretty shit track record for human rights abuses and other generally evil shit like slavery, genocide and imperialism just like the other great powers of the day
Britain and France desired to resume their evil ambitions right after WW2 but realised they didn't have enough money to do it anymore. That didn't stop them from committing horrific human rights abuses in Algeria and Kenya and now their modern governments just fuck with African and Pacific governments through proxies and international finance.
The US however through the CIA has fucked over so many different places on nearly every single continent that yoi can't help but look at it and wonder "Are they trying to take over the world?" (the answer is an obvious yes with documented proof dating back to the wartime Roosevelt administration about goals on how to closely influence global policy following WW2's conclusion when it became clear that all the old powers would be sevrely defanged).
So yeah, I imagine many Americans struggle with reconciling the lofty abstract ideals their country was founded on and the actual history/current realpolitik that its government engages in
>>69922401
> hitler invades poland
> no hitler don't do that mane
> oh ok I stop
>>69921229
There's a reason this place is called /tv/ and not /his/, anon. A lot of people here don't know what they're talking about unless it's about baneposting or cunny.
>>69922498
yeah becuase a people who had no say on what the government did colonialism wise deserve to have their daughters raped
fuck off cuck
>>69922505
There's the strength of America as a nation: they can say one thing while doing the other, making it essentially unaccountable for its actions. America will never ever truly look wholly bad.
>yfw liberals have their use
>>69922507
>no hitler don't do that mane
You don't understand. At that time the 3rd Reich was not as strong as it was in its prime. A combined French and British counter offensive would have rekt Hitler permanently
>>69922656
That was actually impossible. British and French forces were completely unprepared.
>>69922592
Hahahaha. Those fags who did not do anything when their government did those atrocities deserved what's coming. Inaction is compliance. Eat Arab dick cuck.
>>69922702
>British and French forces were completely unprepared.
They had the arms. All they had to do was mobilize but you can thank Chamberlain for muh appeasement strategy
>haha, Hitler never wanted the war, he was the good guy!
>lol, you think Hitler tried to conquer the Earth or something? It's all propaganda!
>literally called his future capital World Capital Germania
>>69922715
So they should have started a conflict in their own countries becuase their goverment was killing a few natives 1000s of miles away? not to mention people were pretty much convinced by the government etc that they weren't commiting atrocities, like arabs who think its okay to have sex with children or the nazis convincing germans that jews weren't being exterminated but just sent away.
>>69922600
Hmm, that'a a good way to put it.
Americans have this paradoxical anti-establishment/anti-authoritarian style to them while simultaneously being the modern day Roman empire whose government sabotages, assasinates and invades anybody that doesn't fall in step. Americans are really iconoclastic in a lot of ways with guys like Noam Chomsky, Hunter S. Thompson and Malcom X while also textbook conformists like Nixon, Kissinger and Cheney
Honestly, America just has great fucking PR. I mean Euros talk mad shit about America online but that won't stop them from consuming or trying to boycott American entertainment and goods
>>69922769
you know france got occupied even after having extra time to prepare? britain was only okay becuase its an island
>>69919969
No, he said that he isn't too excited to do the role again but he is contractually obliged if the studio wants him to come back.
So it's just a matter of the script and Hugo being available for it.
>>69916838
Did the red skull really die here or get transported to some other realm?
I want more Hugo in future marvelshit movies
>>69923093
And because they BTFO'd the German airforce. Hitler lost interest because he really wanted Russia and because he actually thought the English would, in time, come around to his side as he believed they were Germanic aryans same as him
>>69923250
We had a large fascist movement which sympathised with hitler, but churchill wanted war
>>69923250
I always wonder what would have happened if mosley got power sided with hitler
>>69923564
And sided*
>>69922190
>forgetting about Sykes-Picot and the Great Game
All the Muslim shit that's been happening from the Levant to China is because of hundred year old imperialist ambitions
>>69923459
Good, fuck Nazis. They literally and unironically believed in Atlantis; they think that's were the Aryans migrated from as they moved across Europe.
That's all obviously proven false what with the discovery of plate tectonics
>>69909637
>there are people on /tv/ so uneducated they don't know what this means
>people are literally doubling down on stupid trying to "prove" their idiotic "point"
I am legitimately irked and disappointed.
>>69923969
nazi are literally the WE WUZ of white people
>>69922072
was my reply problematic? hahaha fucking faggot
>>69924512
Pretty much. They ignore the monumental contributions that China, Ancient Egypt and the Middle East also made to scientific progress. Lots of them automatically assume white people invented things they obviously didn't like compasses, gunpowder, cannons and mirrors as examples
>MUH GREEKS
>MUH ROMANS
>MUH RENAISSANCE
>MUH ENLIGHTENMENT
>WE CIVILIZED THE WORLD, WE WUZ THE TRUE KINGS
>>69924007
I can't tell whose side you are on
>>69910532
When the bugs attack, we will unite or die.
>>69924986
Mankind has had its fun and it wasted it all in not making catgirls real. Fuck all of you, I'll join the bugs.
>>69924986
Probably die
>>69924577
>hahaha
baka desu senpai
Is Red Skull the most red pilled Marvel villain?
>>69917332
still amazed people don't understand why immigrants are over represented in crime statistics apart from "well they're immigrants"
>>69927950
Of course we understand why, they are subhumans. You don't see the same thing when whiteys.
>>69927329
Kek, the fact that he is pretty much /pol/ incarnate says a lot about the shit belief systems those cunts have.
>>69929862
>shit belief system
t. middle class white kid who has never left his suburb
Most of /pol/ learned from experience, from living near shitholes or moving to cities. Moving to London certainly taught me quickly that whites are the only civilised race
>>69912901
Are you a real person?
>>69922997
South Park literally had this on their 100th episode
>I'm a little bit country
>I'm a little bit rock n roll
