He sure showed his parents.
soundtrack is really good
>Screenplay and Directed by
the fuck kind of a sentence is that? It should say "written for the screen and directed by". Fuck.
>>69799310
We had a debate in class about this book. Everyone in my class thought that he was in the right cause his parents were ugghh so demanding and they just didn't understand him
Fuckin grow up. Bear it. Overcome it. Don't run away like a hipster when there people in worse situations then you.
>>69799310
Look at me eating all these poison berries.
MOM'S GONNA FREAK!
>>69800094
he did whatever he thought was good, so what ? he didn't want to live a life that was handed out to him and he fucked up. by dying.
Actual belly laugh from your post. Thanks anon
NOT EVEN A FUCKING COMPASS
Fuck things man all these things are poisoning society man we gotta transcend man
Christ my dad was an abusive dick who left. Not some distant rich person who was a meanie head :(
Guy was the ultimate bitch, his poor sister too. Selfish turd
>LMAO FUCKING FAGGOT HIPSTER GOT REKT, STUPID CUNT GOT WHAT HE DESERVED
As always with threads about the film or the guy, this comes from the nice crowd posting on /tv/ on a Friday night
>>69800027
>screenplay by
>directed by
Now remove a "by," put an "and."
>>69800904
YOU DONT GO OUT INTO THE FUCKING WILDERNESS WITHOUT AT LEAST, AT THE VERY BASE LEVEL, A MAP AND A GODDAMN COMPASS. BARRING THE MAP, A COMPASS WILL SUFFICE.
>>69801036
You actually don't need a compass, you can look at the stars, or use your nose, if you got a good nose, that is.
>>69800904I don't identify well with the men of my own generation.
>>69800904
I admire his dropping everything and living a life more than most ever will. Doesn't change he did it for dumb reasons and wasn't well learned enough for living alone in bumbfuck Alaska
total ponce
>>69801107
How do I know if I have a good nose?
And if I look at the stars, how will this help me?
>>69799310
>parents are stubborn pressuring dickheads
>son is stubborn dickhead
>nature never has given a fuck
>nature wins
Basically if his parents had allowed him to grow instead of dictating his every action this would have never happened. You can't raise males like defective females.
Abysmal writing and directing. Mediocre film overall.
I'm actually doing this at the end of this month.
>>69801238
if he wasnt a big fucking baby it wouldnt have happened either. he could have gotten a job and a apartment in some shitty part of town, then realized hey being poor sucks, then moved back in with his rich parents and actually appriciated it
>>69801222
> how do i know if i have a good nose?
When you can smell the cardinal directions
>>69801308
You won't make it a week but best of luck!
>>69801222
>And if I look at the stars, how will this help me?
Is this a serious comment?
Does no one get taught what the north star is anymore?
Or fucking shit, just look at what direction the sun is rising/setting.
>>69800094
Who the hell are you to tell anyone what to do
Sean Penn is not a competent director or writer. I think if this movie was made by someone else it would have been better.
>>69801349
And if I can smell only some of them? What if I can't South?
>>69801439
I think if he had a hardcore, full penetration gonzo sex scene with Kstew it would have been better.
>>69800027
Cockgobbling and prostate milking by OP
Cockgobbling by OP
Prostate milking by OP
>>69801411
This is serious. I know nothing about the movement of the things in the sky. You say the sun, but how do I know what's front and what's back related to him?
We had to read the book in my high school English class. Chris was a self indulgent retard who had no idea what he was doing and committed suicide by stupidity. I have no sympathy for him.
I would have impregnated her, real talk.
>>69801036
I don't suppose you actually watched the movie, did you?
>>69801238
Actually his parents did nothing wrong. Sure they got into fights but that was between them. And that's what happens when you're adults. You get into disagreements. They gave him the childhood any child would want. They even offered to buy him a brand new car and a free ride to college. They didn't verbally or physically abuse him. They tried to give him the best parenting they could.
If he was going to run away the least he could have done was write them telling him he was alright and not make them worry sick about him. He was selfish. Any kid in a worst situation would love to be in his place. He's just a rich kid who has too much time and money on their hands and want to rebel.
>>69801317
If they'd have given him the freedom to do so he would have.
Again, if you lock a boy in a room and tell him how to do everything, he either wigs out and rebels or ends up as a late 20's cuckboy that posts on /tv/ that works at a menial job and can't get sex.
>be from Alaska
>now live in lower 48
>literally everybody asks me if I've watched this flick
>haven't
>people look at me like I'm nuts
We have a lot of survivalist/muh wilderness types here.
Most of them live. He was one of the dumb ones.
Why is he famous again?
>>69801528
Anybody who isn't a faggot nu-male would have fucked her.
>MUH AGE
Fucking homos
>>69801561
All of that was conditional love. They offered him things on the condition that he lived they life they dictated to him.
>>69799964
I still listen to hard sun
top-tier track
He killed a moose but didnt actually know the proper way to preserve it. If he had made a smock rack immediately he could have saved a lot of meat and he probably wouldnt have died when he did.
Evidence leads us to believe he died from food poisoning. What it is believed that he ate is edible in itself but it was thought to have had a minuscule amount of a type of mold on it which although not normally fatal is enough to kill you if you are not eating regularly.
They tried to make a movie about a lost kid who touched people's lives on his way to find himself but the movie was so badly written and there was barely any character development between any of the characters he met. It just showed clips of him showing up and suddenly everyone likes him for no reason. They never showed why he developed those relationship or why he was likable. The only character trait I saw from him was a ungrateful douchebag. The only relationship that felt kind of real was the one with him the old guy. But that was because they spent a little more time developing that than the other stuff. But the way he was too likable and everyone just accepted him seems like a convenient way to make you care about him.
>>69801561
>They didn't verbally or physically abuse him
There is no way for you to know this.
>>69801737
It was just complete ignorance of bushcraft that killed him. People die every year when they eat poisonous plants/mushrooms that they assume is something else.
Bushcraft is highly specialized to region and takes years if not decades to learn.
>>69801528
The scenes with her were so bad. Fuck, oh i'm a hot girl and I just happen to like this guy who ran away. We just met but we're in love. And I want him to have sex with me. Everything was so forced like a lot of things in this movie.
>>69801737
smoke rack**
>>69799310
I couldn't empathize with him. I really wanted to but I couldn't. I thought that by the end of the movie I might find some empathy for him but I couldn't. This movie was a waste of time.
sucks when you eat a root that is only poison when you are starving and ppl think you killed yourself on purpose
>>69801867
>he didnt watch the documentary
pleb
i mean he was gonna die sooner or later if he stayed out in the woods, from poisoning or starvation or freezing or a bear attack
i dont really judge him because i appreciate people who stand by their convictions even if i dont agree with them
talking about your feels on your blog is one thing but leaving it all and living in the woods for a while is impressive just from a character standpoint, i know i couldnt do it. and the way he died was a risk that he knew he was taking
Yup, and Lord Shackleton, the Vikings who colonized America and the Sputnik Cosmonauts all showed their Moms and Dads who's boss!
So it's established that he's a retard now for the next topic, if you were him, what would you have done? If your parents had so many expectations of you, placed so much pressure on you, what would you do? Would you run away like him or forge your own path?
>>69802078
Running away and forging your own path can be the very same thing
Ha I'm dead sick it dad
>>69802280
Ya blew it
>>69801607
He was from a wealthy family and when he traveled the country as a drifter he made a lot of people re-evaluate their lives.
>>69801428
I'm your mother, now empty your poop jugs or ill deduct another 10 gbp
>>69802459
>he made a lot of people re-evaluate their lives
The movie did a really poor job of showing that.
>>69802078
For starters, I'd bring a map.
>>69800094
He just wanted out. His parents weren't the cause of his issues, just the catalyst.
>>69801479
The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. If you know what a compass looks like that alone is good enough for the day.
For the night, Google the Big Dipper and Little Dipper. They're two constellations that are always visible. The North Star sits in the handle of the Little Dipper and is always oriented above the earths North Pole. If you can find it following it will always take you north.
There's also bird flight patterns, depending on the time of year.
>>69801803
Have you never met a teenage girl before?
>>69801428
He's the guy that didn't eat poison berries.
>>69803196
Thanks. Sound pretty complicated, but doable to be learned.
Yeah and fuck Thoreau too that whiny cunt lolgrowuplibtardfedorafag
That's what you all sound like.
>>69803676
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
I'm planning on doing the same except not dying.
>>69800094
>Everyone in my class thought that he was in the right cause his parents were ugghh so demanding and they just didn't understand him
>AM I COOL /TV/?
>>69804404
I don't see you offering any counterarguments.
>>69804259
>Reply
Good luck. Cause that was the one flaw in his plan.
>I'm gonna go die in a bus.
>>69803676
Thoreau was a whiny cunt you retard. When I read Walden it sounds like a thirteen year old emo kid in a philosophy 101 class wrote it.
>Why would you pay someone to build you a house if you could buy the materials yourself for a fraction of the cost and build it yourself hurr durrrr
>Why do we even like "need" money guys! Let's all just live off the land brooooo
All his arguments are pretty much this retarded.
Something can be said about these quixotic persons, like him and Grizzly Man, who try their darnedest to live out some idealistic dream.
>>69804813
What's that?
>>69801561
He was apparently abused verbally by his dad. His dad also cheated on his mom and tried to cover it up. In short, his dad was a shitty person and he didn't want to follow in his footsteps.
>>69804852
>verbal abuse
>Gallien repeatedly tried to persuade McCandless to defer the trip, at one point offering to detour to Anchorage, and buy him suitable equipment and supplies. However, McCandless ignored Gallien's persistent warnings and refused his offers of assistance (though McCandless did accept a pair of Wellington boots, two sandwiches, and a packet of corn chips from Gallien). Gallien dropped McCandless off believing McCandless would head back towards the highway within a few days as hunger set in
>It has been speculated that McCandless may have been responsible for vandalizing several cabins in the area that were stocked with food, survival equipment, and emergency supplies. In response, Denali National Park Chief Ranger Ken Kehrer, has categorically stated that McCandless was not considered a viable suspect by the National Park Service
Lowlife thief.
>>69805064
>speculated
>categorically stated that McCandless was not considered a viable suspect
U just a hater, homie
>>69803271
And instead he's the guy that will die in whatever way he dies. What's your point?
He was smart enough, at least in the movie, to just say fuck it and pursue some hippie faggot shit. I'm not against those kinds of trips, but you are throwing away opportuinites that few people have for some shit trip with a stupid idea with no preparation is nothing to cheer for. Maybe the movie wasn't trying to portray him as some enlightened faggot, but it still cringy how many people fall for his shit.
>happiness is nothing if not shared
he's right tho
>>69805639
As a minor counterpoint, people rarely share their masturbation
>>69804846
Don't, I guess.
He was schizophrenic.
>mfw autists don't understand that the character's reason for "going into the wilderness" wasn't for survival
He got what he wanted. Plain and simple. I don't understand people's anger over his decisions.
>>69805721
Are you happy deep inside when you mastrubate? Think about it.
Even when you play games, watch a good movie etc if you don't have anyone to share your happines you are wasting your life. If you gonna live alone till you die, nobody will remember you, nor will you be missed by anyone.
Making other people happy is even better, atleast you did something good in your life.
>>69805753
Cold
>>69800994
the only way that would work is if it was changed to read
screenplay and direction by
or
screenplayed and directed
screenplay is a noun
directed is a verb
doesn't work syntactically
>>69805812
i didn't see the movie but from what i've read, this is true
it was basically suicide the way he wanted to go
>>69805812
no he didn't have a goal, that is why it was a tragedy. he was vulnerable and innocent and made poor decisions and sadly wasn't able to survive to a point where he could develop coping strategies and perspective.
>>69805224
That he was an embarassing waste of sperm who whined about being born into money in a first world country and then at ate berries and died.
Basically you but sadly you won't do us the courtesy of offing yourself.
>>69805937
Try Liveleak, it's an edgelord's safe space
>>69801910
>he didn't read the book
lmao enjoy watching Sean Penn's propoganda
>>69805926
Only from a matter of perspective
>>69806029
yes, only from everyone involved's perspective, including the main character Chris. All the evidence surrounding his death showed he was starving and trying not to starve. So to conclude it was suicide is not logical.
He was a victim of circumstance. While he didn't do anything directly wrong that killed him, some of his more lousy decisions about how to lead his life out in the wilderness were certainly bad, but he didn't make a single fatal decision that cost him his life.
I'm split on the guy myself. On one hand, I admire someone who wants to admire the blissfulness of nature and wants to get away from a society that has no fulfillment within itself. We're all wageslaves who do jobs to get money to keep existing and buy shit. Which is fine and I plan on doing it, but anyone who attempts to find something above that is fine by my book. The problem though is he had a family who loved and cared about him and by abandoning them he committed emotional murder. Additionally the people he met along the way who showed him nothing but kindness yet he refused to acknowledge their attempts to pull him from his singleminded quest.
Didn't see the movie, don't plan to. The book was enough.
i thought the movie was actually pretty even handed about showing that whilst likeable, he was also foolish. it wasn't just hero worship. it showed how much it upset his family, but more than that it showed how much it upset everyone else he met as well. the whole movie was him meeting cool people and bailing on them and i'm not sure that it was really applauding this. it was more a sad thing, that this naive likeable kid was so desperate to run away from every meaningful relationship that he ended up dying in a stupid pointless way in the middle of nowhere.
good film
>>69806096
the problem with the story is that there is obviously unsurfaced familial drama that is missing from the final telling. Agree with everything you said, but from my experience while it is likely he had his own demons or even psychological problems there would be at least a subtle family disfunction, even as simple as lack of affection or isolation from his parents, to cause him to drastically cut off communication. Something that may not even appear to be a serious level issue on the surface but would explain more than only looking at chris's personality/character traits.
>>69806201
Yeah and depending on how much credit you want to give McCandless for his mental state/how much he wanted to get away from his family would certainly color how you view his actions. I read the book 5-6 years ago so I can't quite remember the detail but it's so likely he saw his parents as terrible and even though the picture we get is a loving and successful family there might have been much more going on that he wanted to isolate himself from.
Nice to have a discussion on 4chan. Thanks my dude
>>69801411
That far north the stars are really fucky
>>69804730
Thank you. I got that lolbertarian edgelord feel from Chris as well.
opps i am cold, should have stayed at home
rip
>>69799310
Oversensitive Fagot: The Movie
>>69806461
i always felt like his parents, in particular his dad, bore some of the responsibility. i mean you don't just get up and disappear for the hell of it. exploration and independence are normal but this was pretty fucked up there was, in my opinion, some serious underlying issues. my only complaint with the book. I've read into thin air also and i liked it. but this is really pissing me off right now that i think about it again. it's too big to miss.
>>69806581
I wonder if Krakauer was disallowed from putting more information in the book by the family? It does seem like a fairly important part of the book. Hell, it's the only reason you would read the book. Why did this kid leave everything and live alone in the woods. Not further following up on why he left does seem an odd oversight. Probably dug too deeply into the personal lives of people who didn't want their personal and professional lives opened up to the public I'd bet.
>>69806672
not really woods, Alaskan wilderness. my bad
>actually really liked this film, really comfy, found Alex a cool person who just made a mistake
>/tv/ just thinks he's a retard
>tfw
>>69806672
ya i'm sure his family didn't want to get too far into that subject and he probably had the decency not to speculate, which is good on his part. I remember him saying the family was pretty normal for its time and all that. It's a big mystery. Fucking sad story.
>>69805812
I think the anger exists because people take his actions as an example of something good.
>>69806785
They are- up to a point- symbol of something good. Autists rage over nothing, on /tv/ even more
>>69806581
>>69806784
I wouldn't be surprised if the family is just like shown in the movie.
Teens and young adults do stupid things, they like being rebellious
>>69806469
Too bad your post is filled with nonsensical non-arguments. Can you honestly go through a day without relying on ad homs to solve your problems and lack of arguments?
>>69806824
ya i agree with all that and acknowledge the rebellious nature of young men.
what sticks out as beyond rebellion and into real issues is that he cut off communication for several months i think up to a year if i recall correctly
as an armchair psychiatrist i intuit subconscious conflict with his father that was not expressed verbally. this would be over a long term period, probably back to childhood.
He seemed happiest when he was working on that farm. Too bad his single-minded goal clouded all the good things that happened around him.
>>69806909
desu the way he treats everyone he meets in the way make him appear really arrogant, proud and someone who thinks he knows everything.
I met people like him before, they were usually well treated as kids. Too well treated. They develop a sense of entitlement.
But anyway, as you said, one year is too much indeed. You have a point
>>69806907
>your post is filled with non-arguments
Probably because I wasn't making an argument, you fucking mongoloid.
Oh, sorry. Didn't see your obnoxious tripfag name for a second. Now I understand. You're a triggered librotarian.
>>69806779
yeah I think the sticking point is it's just such a big mistake to make, that people react with "man what a fucking idiot"
but i agree with you anon, i just find the whole situation sad and tragic that he lost his life over it.
>>69801443
Compasses can only smell North, if you can do that you should be fine.
>>69806960
well in my experience kids that are treated too well have anger towards their parents they might not even realize exists. to over simplify it's sort of a need for attention. it's all very primitive, kid doesn't get emotional affection so he acts out in a variety of ways to try and bring the emotional attention into him or herself. and spoiling kids is usually just meant as a superficial way to fill the void of a missing connection. but it doesn't always end in death and tragedy like this.
>>69807008
>le triggered meme XD
You decided to mention libertarianism out of nowhere when the guy was talking about anarchism.
This kind of mentality is clearly derived from your statist delusions. I'm just pointing it out. You're the one that wanted to start it.
>>69807030
Not like this, sure, but many person's lives are quite unfulfilled and tragic in small doses, by lack of connections and attention.
>>69807070
Wew.
>>69801867
Who gives a flying fuck. It's not like he was deported and forced to starve, he fucked up completely on his own. He was like a hardcore version of those guys that play Pokémon and do a Nuzlocke, he died for a self-imposed challenge.
If he really felt the need to eat shit and sleep in the dirt he could just do the Camino de Santiago, so he could experience living like a bum for 2ish months (double that if you travel back to France) and survive.
>>69807090
yeah agreed.
>>69801308
Please stay out of my state.
>>69801308
Remember to bring a
MAP
A
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>>69800385
>he didn't want to live a life that was handed out to him
In a sense he did by Mother Nature. But he didn't realise that Mother Nature is infinitely more cruel than Mother.
The being a pseud thing annoyed me.
>>69807777
>7777
Probably the greatest event in Alaska in the last 50 years lmao
>>69805819
Masturbating feels great. As for other people, I have no desire to connect with them and I don't think I could, nor does it bother me people won't "remember" or "miss" me for a few decades until they die too anyways.
>>69807831
Listen to the quads, man. Stay out of Alaska.
>>69806909
>as an armchair psychiatrist i intuit subconscious conflict with his father that was not expressed verbally. this would be over a long term period, probably back to childhood.
At least he didn't do an Elliot Roger then
>>69807777
heh kid if you don't heed these digits you're probably going to die or at least lose all your toes and fingers to frostbite
>Group of Germans got lost and had to be rescued while trying to visit the Bus.
>Swiss tourist fucking died trying to get to it
You'd think Germans and Swiss would be the ones that'd actually have no trouble, but low and behold.
They're also thinking about just getting rid of the bus because it keeps happening.
>>69807986
How stupid do you have to be to get lost there? 'Civilization' is like some meters away
>>69808015
you dont gotta be stupid you just have to be european
>>69807986
>You'd think Germans and Swiss would be the ones that'd actually have no trouble, but low and behold.
Maybethis shit happens for overconfidence. They probably believed that just because they go hiking they could get there easily.
>>69807949
You missed a great digits/fingers pun.
>>69799310
Should've stuck with Vince Vaughn and smashed the trailer chick.
7/10
It really got me at the end when he was writing Family is everything at the end, even after running away from it all he realised that wasnt the answer to anything.
Plus when I read that there was a raft crossing about 1/4 mile up river from where he first crossed and couldnt get back at the same spot... HA!
>>69799310
Throws away grade A pussy for some mashed potatoes. What an idiot, plenty of time for isolation in your old age, just go camping with her, son.
>>69801803
Have you ever met a girl before? This is what they do, but if you believe them or take any direction from her then they stop acting this way.
>>69802078
Do enough to get by and get out, then never look back.
>>69801411
How do i see where the sun is when it blinds me when trying to look at it?
>>69810723
Very good question. You could try to look at night, so it's safer and more manageable.
>>69807986
Swiss and Germans drive everywhere. They nearly never go rambling or whatever.
The soundtrack to this movie is absolutely top tier.
Also, afaik supertramp was a real cunt IRL.
>>69805819
>Are you happy deep inside when you mastrubate?
Kind of. If I catch myself off guard after a few weeks of no fap, like finding yourself waking up at 4am thrusting into the mattress in the pitch black type deal. It doesn't make me happy so much as it takes away the cloud of discontentment, but I am not chasing happiness anyway.
>>69802033
>i appreciate people who stand by their convictions
I don't. You expect me to believe a kid got it all right at 15, or whenever you decide to be (largely) that same type of person for ever. This is how you get better at rationalising reasons to stick to a contract you no longer have the motivation to meet. Convenient for society though.
>>69810805
>afaik
Oh, I'm sure you know a lot.
>>69799310
>>69800027
>>69800094
>>69801561
>>69801597
>>69801612
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>>69811956
What could be your point is a mystery, but that's a nice dog
>>69812018
that he was a retard and the world is better off without himi love dogs
i do that like every half a year for three or four night, he was just a whiner who didnt even feel like he has to learn anything to make do
well guess fucking what
>>69805819
why would I care if people remember me after I'm dead if I have no attachment to people?
