When are race changes in an adaptation ok?
>>69762438
only good vampire movie
Quit making everyone a nigger. Seriously, that's all that needs to happen.
You'd think that the US was 50% black because of how race is portrayed here.
>>69762438
Never.
>>69762438
because they don't want to offend the Chinese market by getting an Asian actor to play a Tibetan
It's ok if you race-change to a white person mostly because Hollywood is majority white and the American demographic is majority white.
It's a business decision. Changing to any other race would be pandering.
>>69762438
When it's a z tier character normies don't know about.
>>69762482
You mean it's not?
When its not a nigger. Seriously, its only bad when a non-nigger character becomes a nigger. I want nigger characters to be changed so that there are no niggers in entertainment at all.
Are there even any asian characters in the Doctor Strange movie? It would be funny if they were in such a hurry trying not to offend China that they forgot to put Chinese guys in the movie.
>>69762600
they have Benedict Wong playing Wong
>as long as they're white it's okay
- /tv/
>>69762617
That was a Wong choice.
It's a lot easier to dismiss white people against equal opportunity roles for minority races when you can just point to threads like these and go "see, all they care about is hating niggers"
>>69762659
Give me one good reason not to hate niggers and "racism is bad" is not a reason.
>>69762659
But #NiggersAreShit and should be hated. Fuck the SJW; "equal opportunity roles for minority races" is coded ethno-cultural conquest.
>>69762709
Cause you'll just hate more and more media because black people will only start to star in more things, not less
>>69762655
Who is this cunt-crusher?
>>69762659
Newsflash, faggot. You're on an anonymous image board.
Even if we didn't make these posts, they could make them themselves just to secure victimization points regardless. And they do; regularly.
>>69762472
What aboutThe Hunger?
If it's a hot chick in an otherwise sausagefest I'm good, otherwise fuck off
>>69762755
Oh cry me a fucking river.
No one is going to deny white people roles, there's no white genocide, occurring.
And with everyone hating SJWs nowadays such a thing is not a problem.
Quit playing the fucking victim, loser.
>>69762659
Because the actions of many don't speak for the actions of few, nor do the actions of the few speak for the actions of many.
Ironic as it sounds, everyone is an individual.
>>69762831
>dude lets hate niggers
What's next, you're going to start a new hashtag on Twitter and post outdated facts and info graphs on social media?
What a hero you are.
>implying SJWs aren't making those nigger posts just to use 4chan as a strawman
>>69762922
>No one is going to deny white people roles,
Wrong; that's precisely what diversity casting is.
>there's no white genocide, occurring.
Which is why whites will be minority in 2060? Top kek, nigger; you're in denial if you think white dispossession isn't occurring; London is already majority non-white.
>And with everyone hating SJWs nowadays such a thing is not a problem.
And yet it keeps happening.
>Quit playing the fucking victim, loser.
>nigger-defending faggot
>accuses people of utilizing victimolgy
Lynch yourself.
>>69762482
I actually thought that until a couple years ago
>>69762800
>What about The Hunger?
>British erotic horror film
haha no
>>69762951
>I defend niggers to my race's detriment on a Bangladeshi soup-cooking forum
What a hero you are, faggot.
#KillAllNiggers #FuckNiggers #NiggersAreShit #BackToApefrica2016
>>69762438
If race isn't an integral part of the character. I don't worry too much about adaptations where the attitude and portrayal of the character are more important than getting a physically close actor. Hugh Jackman was perfect as Wolverine even if he's like a foot and a half taller.
But when a character's race is integral to who they are, they should just keep it that way. A white Black Panther would be fucking retarded, just as an example.
I also generally prefer it if in reboots or continuations characters stay the race they were. Saul Tigh being white instead of black was a bit weird at first but Michael Hogan was so awesome I wound up not giving a shit.
>>69763200
>dude, you clearly hate your race, lol.
I don't hate or love any race. But if you're seriously going to be a whiny bitch about it and complain to a bunch of anonymous strangers on the internet who don't hold your opinions, you can get fucked by a mob of black men for all I care.
>>69763141
>dude, diversity casting means that white men are going to be denied ALL ACTING JOBS IN HOLLYWOOD WAAAAAHHHH
>dude whites will be a minority
Yeah by their own choice, not for what the media tells others.
>London is already majority non-White
It may surprise you, but England itself is a majority white, and with UKIP on the rise, immigration will be controlled.
>and yet it keeps happening
Riiiiggghhhhhtt because Milo Yiannopolous as well as other hosts like David Rubin aren't getting any traction or attention.
Again, you don't see the irony in your posts. You are playing a victim, whining about your OPRESSION.
I'm not denying the fact that white people have been discriminated against and are being discriminated against, but with SJWs being hated by most, such an event of white genocide is unlikely.
Quit being a loser and fuck off back to stormfront where you can circle jerk about how Jews and minorities are ruining your life, you subhuman retard.
>>69762521
No, this particular casting choice (Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One) is to steer away from the ridiculous stereotypical ancient Chinese martial arts master.
>>69763141
>Wrong; that's precisely what diversity casting is.
white people literally had a century headstart in casting. let other people have a turn and stop portraying others in the narrow minded perspective of one race
>whites will be minority in 2060
and?
>keeps happening
what does? your tinfoil conspiracy
here's your (You)
i dont give a shit what happens
>>69763305
Racism has no place on 4chan.
I want a MLK movie with MLK being played by a white guy.
>>69763480
but it's fun and believable watching an old Chinese kung fu master. watching Tilda Swinton as a kung fu master makes me feel like I'm watching a wachowski sisters movie
>>69762438
When it isnt really important to the character, ie their nationality or locality or historic perspective or they arent iconic. Also if the family name is ambigious.
Most of the time Hollywood fucks it up and just makes white characters black for muh diversity, or Asian characters white/half white because they think Western audiences wont relate to Asians (but love BBC as much as the average Jewish American does).
>>69762655
6 billion Jews died in the holocaust, special treatment in film is the least we can do to repay them
>>69762532
I hate to admit it, but basically this. America and the west is white... For now. We arent the world even though we export our films. Its OK for movies to reflect the dominant ethnic group. As it has been historically.
Im totally fine seeing Asia re-imagine Western stories or stories with Western characters and casting them as Asian. I dont get mad or refuse to see them on the grounds of Asian-washing or w/e. If it was well written and not just full of Japanese idols I could be down for a cowboy or knight themed all Asian movie. But probably not if it was made in the US and was just pandering bs.
>character name in the script is "Cranz Jando"
>Actor hired isn't a white person
>/tv/ response is "MUH SDOUBLEJEWS!" ruining capekino!
Stay mad white cucks
>>69762764
Hispanics are outpacing them in both reproduction and immigration by wide margins.
Whites are shrinking, but blacks will too.
When whites are 40%, blacks will be 7-9%.
It's about the only upside of the demographic change that's well under way.
>>69762655
This
And I'm still waiting for "The Last Nigger On Earth" starring Tom Hanks
I can accept race changes when they are tasteful, and switch for a good actor. Not just to fill a quota.
The nigger in Thor was a good example of bad race switching, it made little sense in context and came off as hamfisted
when the people in charge of creating the adaptation are the same race as the person who wrote the original material
Casting in OP was literally done to appease the Chinese government.
SJW only hate white men not white women so no one gave a shit anyway asides from Asian "americans" who can get fucked
>>69764021
honestly i never really thought about heimdall being black until you brought it up. I think it was great casting desu
>>69764075
SJWs hate asians, surprisingly.
>>69764102
Nah it was stupid since he stuck out like a sore thumb, ruining the aesthetics of every shot he was in
Should have made him the scientist instead
>>69763415
1/2
>I don't hate or love any race. But if you're seriously going to be a whiny bitch about it and complain to a bunch of anonymous strangers on the internet who don't hold your opinions, you can get fucked by a mob of black men for all I care.
By being racially ambivalent, you contributing to your race's dispossession and eventual destruction; you should oppose multiracialism even if you don't have any moral attachment to your race because there are real deleterious consequences wrought by multiracialism (such as increased crime and lowered social capital).
Also, that image is fucking retarded; I'm not even white; I just hate cucks and am redpilled enough on HBD to oppose WD
>dude, diversity casting means that white men are going to be denied ALL ACTING JOBS IN HOLLYWOOD WAAAAAHHHH
>le moving the goalposts
You never said whites would be denied all roles:
>No one is going to deny white people roles,
Ergo, my point still stands.
>Yeah by their own choice, not for what the media tells others
>look mum, I moved the goalposts again
Bitch, you claimed white dispossession wasn't happening:
>there's no white genocide occurring.
If even if their choices weren't being influenced by (((media and academia))), its still a retarded and fucked choice that should be intensely criticized.
>It may surprise you, but England itself is a majority white, and with UKIP on the rise, immigration will be controlled.
Hopefully, but if SJWs had their way then England would likely become majority non-white.
Also, the Muslim minority is extremely deleterious and parasitical; Pakistani gangs raped thousands of English girls in Rotterdam whilst the multiculturalist police covered it up.
>Riiiiggghhhhhtt because Milo Yiannopolous as well as other hosts like David Rubin aren't getting any traction or attention.
SJWs are only a facet of a wider issue; neither of those people are white nationalists and the main issue is immigration and white dispossession.
>>69764102
>Thinking that the ancient Scandinavians having a black deity is acceptable
It doesn't make sense. Imagine if they cast Zeus as a Chinese man
Or even better imagine the butthurt if they cast an African or a Voodoo deity as a White guy
>>69764147
Because they disintegrate the "blacks are poor and low-IQ because muh racism" narrative.
>>69762656
>>69764286
it doesn't really
>>69764211
tldr
>>69762482
I was actually shocked to learn there was only like 13% Nigger there
>>69764211
i don't know why people lump minorities into one anti-white supergroup. even if whites were outnumbered by all the minorities combined, they'd still be the majority single ethnicity
>>69763415
>I'm not denying the fact that white people have been discriminated against and are being discriminated against, but with SJWs being hated by most, such an event of white genocide is unlikely.
So whats your solution? If you think whites regaining there ethno-cultural hegemony is inevitable, then what was the point of your cuck-rant?
There is literally nothing wrong with whites regaining there ethno-cultural hegemony regardless of how much you whine about our alleged utilization of victimology.
>Quit being a loser and fuck off back to stormfront where you can circle jerk about how Jews and minorities are ruining your life, you subhuman retard.
Top cuk.
>>69764315
Elaborate.
>>69762438
>When are race changes in an adaptation ok?
>adaptation
It's always ok because you're making an adaptation, you're already changing things and no changes are off limits as long as the change fits the new adaptation of the story that you are making. Honestly no changes should be off-limits because the best adaptations aren't 1:1 anyway, they are the ones that took a lot of liberties with the source material and made something better as a result. JAWS the movie is way the hell better than the book, and very different, same with Jurassic Park, the Lord of the Rings films, etc...
>>69764343
>i don't know why people lump minorities into one anti-white supergroup.
Because that's how they typically organize politically. What non-white group is pre-predominately pro-white?
>>69764410
just because they both 'faced racism' doesn't mean they experienced it to the same extent, or for the same period of time
>>69764434
>What non-white group is pre-predominately pro-white?
strange question. minorities don't exactly get along with each other
Make any white role non white. There has never been a case where this has resulted in a worse movie.
But I've seen plenty of white actors fuck up non white roles like Emma Stone in Alooha.
>>69763507
>white people literally had a century headstart in casting. let other people have a turn and stop portraying others in the narrow minded perspective of one race
Because its their country, you obese, chitlin-stuffed orangutan.
Should Indian, Chinese, African cinema predominately feature other ethnicities?
>and?
And, there would more crime, more socialism, and lowered social and genetic capital as well the moral repugnance of whites being in minority in their own fucking country.
You're expendable garbage, you stupid fuck.
>what does?
Diversity casting, miscegenation propaganda amongst other things.
>>69764608
>Should Indian, Chinese, African cinema predominately feature other ethnicities?
if their directors want it
>>69764418
people like you are why hollywood cant make a accurate origin story for comic book characters 9 times out of 10
you people are responsible for the xmen movies. thats on you. i dont know how you can live with yourself. there are rapist pedos with less sin than your ilk
>>69764456
Even so, they make MORE money and have HIGHER IQs then whites; so who was oppressing whitey to make their income/IQ lower?
HBD is fact, like evolution or the heliocentric solar model.
>>69764672
hey where'd the goalposts go?
>>69764482
They do when it comes to immigration, socialistic economics, and anti-white policy more broadly.
>>69764456
>it's da racism
Nice magical evocation you have there.
>>69764698
Don't forget presidential elections.
>>69764626
But do you ascribe the decision moral weight?
>>69764698
yeah and white people get along with non-whites on the same issues
>>69762438
If the actor is so good for the roll that race is the only barrier that would stop them.
>>69762472
there are few others.I don't like pure metaphor vampires
>>69762438
was not she in Constantine
>>69762521
>>69763480
>>69763624
It's literally so they can get more Chinese audience in. Having a Tibetan character would be very controversial in China. Thus, whitewashing. Pandering to imperialism to make a shitload more money, basically.
>>69764715
Of course.
>>69764712
it's obviously a complex topic but i was going by what i thought would be the reason it 'dissolves' the argument about blacks
>>69764736
i'm not sure what you're asking. i'm not going to tell other countries how to run their countries -- that's imperialism. and including minorities in films isn't a moral obligation. it's a reflection of race dynamics and social mobility in contemporary society.
>>69764693
I didn't move the goalposts, retard; I still proved my case. Also, Asians and Hispanics have nearly identical histories within the united states yet on has a lower-than-white IQ whilst another was a higher-than-white IQ. How do you explain that?
>>69762438
To me, when it's a fictional race.
I don't really care when a race is changed, though. I just don't get why one would bother, and that goes for whatever race it is.
>>69764654
Some media adapts better than others, I'm sure that there are Lord of the Rings purists out there that are spitting mad that the films didn't include x,y, or z and would argue that those movies should have been 10 hour long bloated exposition-heavy sloughs in order to be as faithful to the book as possible.
You're adapting the material and what works best in a comic isn't going to work best on screen, same thing goes for video games and books and any other media swapping.
>>69764803
>and including minorities in films isn't a moral obligation.
Then you are morally fine with whites being almost exclusively cast?
>>69762438
When the race is not tied to the character like: Luke Cage, Thor Odison, Black Panther.
>>69764765
It's not that it's complex (although it is) it's just that "racism" explains fuck all.
Is racism the same as it was in the 50s? Of course not, but if it's the cause of disparities then why does the g gap persists?
If blacks score lower in IQ tests because of da whitey bias, why do han chinese from rural china score higher than blacks and whites?
KILL WHITEY!!
>>69764841
>I still proved my case
you didn't. and you're moving further and further away from it. i understand that you think this is all related since you probably repeat and see the same information but logically no it doesn't follow from your initial argument
>How do you explain that?
it's race! that must be it!
>>69764895
Also, if SJWs say "but muh slavery", then ask them to explain how the Asian and Hispanic IQs are different.
>>69764873
yes but i don't see what this has to do with your point
>>69764895
i'm not saying racism does explain everything
>>69764947
Or why slavs don't seem to be affected by it.
Or if it's "muh poverty", then why do moldavians score something like 96-98 on average despite their GDP per capita being lower than that of fucking Nigeria.
>>69764983
>yes but i don't see what this has to do with your point
Then you agree with us shitlords; SJWs believe white disempowerment is a moral imperative.
>i'm not saying racism does explain everything
Then you agree that there are biological differences between races that better explain inequality than "muh racism"?
>mfw SJWs got completely BTFO'd in this thread
>>69765067
my argument was assuming the 'dissolution' was because "whites were racist towards asians and blacks so why don't they have the same iq?" when it's a bad argument because they both faced racism in different ways, to differing degrees. i don't actually think racism determines iq -- i wouldn't make a point so simple and open to equivocation. it's not a narrative i support but i can tell when an argument is bad
>>69765138
>SJWs believe white disempowerment is a moral imperative.
good for them but that's not necessarily why minorities are in movies now
>Then you agree that there are biological differences between races that better explain inequality than "muh racism"?
i don't believe it's any one cause like biology or racism. i don't even think "muh racism" is an actual argument that anyone has actually given. it sounds like paraphrasing to me
>>69765345
>my argument was assuming the 'dissolution' was because "whites were racist towards asians and blacks so why don't they have the same iq?" when it's a bad argument because they both faced racism in different ways, to differing degrees. i
I never mentioned blacks; I compared Asians and Hispanics.
>i don't actually think racism determines iq -- i wouldn't make a point so simple and open to equivocation. it's not a narrative i support but i can tell when an argument is bad
Then you agree that there are biological differences between races that better explain inequality than "muh racism"?
Nick Fury. I love the old Nick, but Sam is a x1000 times cooler. No argument.
>>69765373
>good for them but that's not necessarily why minorities are in movies now
But its certainly the narrative SJWs present.
>i don't believe it's any one cause like biology or racism.
So you agree that biology has at least some effect on racial outcomes?
>>69765387
>I never mentioned blacks
the original argument did
>Then you agree that there are biological differences between races that better explain inequality than "muh racism"?
i don't believe it's any one cause like biology or racism. i don't even think "muh racism" is an actual argument that anyone has actually given. it sounds like paraphrasing to me
>>69765505
>But its certainly the narrative SJWs present.
i don't know who the "sjws" even are. it has nothing to do with my point
>So you agree that biology has at least some effect on racial outcomes?
very poor wording but sure. it would be stupid to say that biology has no effect on skin colour
>>69765506
>i don't believe it's any one cause like biology or racism. i don't even think "muh racism" is an actual argument that anyone has actually given. it sounds like paraphrasing to me
So you agree that biology has at least some effect on IQ and racial outcomes?
>>69762922
>>69763141
>>69763412
>>69763587
>>69764033
>>69765416
Honestly, I don't care how many things get black-washed. Or traditional European characters/stories get darker skin tones.
The real thing is, they need to dig into the ENTIRE CONTINENT of culture and pull out stories from that. That way everyone HAS to be black or whatever and then we get to experience a culture/lore/mythology that isn't MUH BIBLE, MUH ANGLO-SAXON YUROP HISTORY, MUH literally fucking anything else.
Even if there ISN'T enough mythology, fuck it- MAKE IT UP.
In MCU, Wakanda is a giant "what if" country.
As in, "What if there was just ONE country in all of Africa that didn't get fucked over by invasion, or warlords, and developed their own Economy/Technology/Culture etc.
It's just lazy and that's the part that chaps Normal ass people's asses. There's nothing NEW about making a white character black when they're making the same damn movie every time.
Fuck. Creed is the same as Rocky I but in reverse. Black kid who grew up with everything STILL has something to prove. Also fucking Rocky is in it, As fucking Rocky. It was a natural continuation while being a sequel and still bringing something new.
>>69765628
>So you agree that biology has at least some effect on IQ and racial outcomes?
no idea. haven't found any evidence that approaches the subject holistically and with any detail, accounting for any biases, etc.
>>69765543
very poor wording but sure. it would be stupid to say that biology has no effect on skin colour
But would you agree that biology effects racial IQ differences?
>>69762438
Sometimes I wonder if Asians are so problematic that we decided as a society to just never show them. The problem being if we showed authentic "oriental" type Marvel/DC characters everyone would lose their shit so the redesign of Mandarin and Ancient One was needed into British people.
Oh, man. We're into some Bell Curve shit. Too bad there's now real way to control for upbringing as that stands relative to test scores. Ashkenazi Jews are the best, thought. Unquestionably. Such folks are maybe pretty smart, too?
>>69764608
>country
hollywood is an international business now. get along with the times. pandering to a bunch of pasty manchildren won't bring as much profit as being inclusive to the world.
>crime, other /pol/ bullshit
decided by education and economic circumstance. where again, the world is becoming more flat
>expendable garbage rant
lol dinosaur growling before extinction
>Diversity casting, miscegenation propaganda amongst other things.
reflecting reality triggers me! where's my lily white society that never existed! lol growup you incestual pigskinned shit
