John Wayne thread.
John Wayne was a faggot.
>dodging WW2
what a pussy
>>69689308
>Marion Morrison
>>69690456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeOWZLpVK58
>>69690456
suck a dick faggot
>>69689308
John Wayne was a Nazi
>>69690503
What he did during WWII was far more valuable than dying on a beach in Okinawa.
>>69689308
John Wayne was a Nazi
He liked to play SS
He had a picture of dear old Aldolf
Tucked in his cowboy's vest
>"I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don’t feel guilty about the fact that five or ten generations ago these people were slaves."
What did he mean by this?
>>69689308
Clint Eastwood was better.
>>69690805
not being an edgelord or anything but I can see the appeal of playing an ss officer or something, their uniforms were /fa/ as fuck.
>>69690503
Too old for the draft.
>>69689308
bowser was dope af yo
>>69690805
Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Nazi! Wah!
>>69690503
He was 36 in 1943. Wtf did you want him to do?
>>69690503
He regretted not serving for the rest of his life, despite being an old man during the war by Army standards. You ever serve?
>>69690979
James Stewart was 35 and was a bomber pilot.
Thank god John Ford made him a man.
>>69690456
He had a lung removed in the early 60s from smoking. Every movie after that required him to have an oxygen tank off set and had to use it every few minutes.
>>69691134
Top character
>Howdy, Mongols. Whaddya say we rape and pillage this here town?
Literally the biggest faggot who walked on planet earth.
Pic related: John Wayne fans
>>69689308
John Wayne great white man
Didn't take no shit from niggers, Indians or Mexicans
>>69691193
Heh, he got cancer from that movie
>>69689308
>>69691532
everyone did
>When John Wayne died, 60 pounds of undigested meat was found in his body during his autopsy
WTF
>>69691532
Everybody got cancer from that movie. I'm gonna watch it soon. I'll probably get cancer and go insane like Howard Hughes.
>>69691193
kek
>>69690503
>While filming The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, Ford also ridiculed Wayne for failing to enlist during World War II, during which Ford filmed a series of widely praised combat documentaries for the Office of Strategic Services, and was wounded at the Battle of Midway,[8] and Stewart served with distinction as a bomber pilot. "How rich did you get while Jimmy was risking his life?" he demanded. Wayne's avoidance of wartime service was a major source of guilt for him in his later years.[9]
>>69691622
urban legend desu
>>69691628
John Wayne is the greatest American of 20th century.
>>69693118
John Wayne slaughtered our Indian brothers
Burned their villages and raped their mothers
Now he has given them the white man's lord
Live by this or die by the sword
>>69691752
Ford was such a character.
>Ford was highly intelligent, erudite, sensitive and sentimental, but to protect himself in the cutthroat atmosphere of Hollywood he cultivated the image of a "tough, two-fisted, hard-drinking Irish sonofabitch".
>One famous event, witnessed by Ford's friend actor Frank Baker, strikingly illustrates the tension between the public persona and the private man. During the Depression, Ford—by then a very wealthy man—was accosted outside his office by a former Universal actor who was destitute and needed $200 for an operation for his wife. As the man related his misfortunes, Ford appeared to become enraged and then, to the horror of onlookers, he launched himself at the man, knocked him to the floor and shouted "How dare you come here like this? Who do think you are to talk to me this way?" before storming out of the room. However, as the shaken old man left the building, Frank Baker saw Ford's business manager Fred Totman meet him at the door, where he handed the man a cheque for $1,000 and instructed Ford's chauffeur to drive him home. There, an ambulance was waiting to take the man's wife to the hospital where a specialist, flown in from San Francisco at Ford's expense, performed the operation. Some time later, Ford purchased a house for the couple and pensioned them for life. When Baker related the story to Francis Ford, he declared it the key to his brother's personality:
>Any moment, if that old actor had kept talking, people would have realized what a softy Jack is. He couldn't have stood through that sad story without breaking down. He's built this whole legend of toughness around himself to protect his softness.
>>69693929
interesting anecdote, thanks
>>69690860
It's a song.
>>69690802
Hahaha, no.
>>69689308
You don't see many of these on here. Probably too old for the average /tv/ poster to know or want to get into.
The problem with him was he was really good at playing one character, but only that one character. He didn't have much range so he stayed in a particular place acting wise his whole life.
>>69689308
John Wayne was garbage.
>>69689308
See how far you can watch "Rio Bravo"...
>>69699372
What the fuck are you implying?
>>69689308
Is that you? Is it me?
>>69699372
I don't get it
>>69699372
You better not be saying what you seem to be saying, because if you are, you'll be getting your shit slapped, boy
John Wayne was fucking gay
JOHN WAYNE IS BIG LEGGY
>>69696982
John Wayne was great at playing John Wayne, and nothing else.
>>69699372
Rio Bravo is fantastic, watch your mouth.
You people can't keep a thread alive for your fucking lives.
>>69701748
If it's not capeshit, got, or some stupid scandal no one cares.
>>69701748
It helps when OP offers content. Opinions, points of discussion, questions, not:
>Make a thread for me? XD
>>69690860
>their uniforms were /fa/ as fuck.
They were literally designed by Hugo Boss himself.
>>69690738
lol
>>69701887
Yeah, no. Stick with capeshit kid.
>>69691595
>>69691532
This is a myth created to perpetuate the nuclear hoax.
https://www.big-lies.org/NUKE-LIES/www.nukelies.com/forum/index.html
>>69689308
IS THAT YOU, JOHN WAYNE?
>>69689308
I never understood why he was so huge over there. Was it just his voice? Only movie I ever saw him in that did not make me want to kill myself with his acting was the Longest day. Other than that any performance he has done has been downright terrible.
>>69702114
He's the country genre of movies.
>>69702114
He was iconic/archetypal to a generation of Americans. He did happen to be in a number of good films from people like Ford and Hawks.
>>69690805
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Hondo is still one of my favorite mo
>>69702212
Don't forget Preminger's In Harm's Way.
>>69702114
If you're not American, you don't understand. Not trying to be a douche. Just a fact. He is exclusive to Americans.
>>69700253
That's what I was saying. He was great at one character, and that's fine, but it's a big disadvantage when he's compared to other actors.
>>69689308
To those saying he's not kino:
>The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
>The Searchers
Gg
>>69702306
It's funny you say that, I just this morning read a little blurb from Richard Brody on it and look forward to viewing.
>“In Harm’s Way,” filmed in 1964 and released in 1965, just as the Vietnam War was heating up, connects the disruptions of war to predatory sexuality. It’s a story of the Second World War, in which John Wayne plays a naval officer whose military career destroyed his family, and whose brave maneuvering during the Pearl Harbor Day attacks nearly gets him court-martialled. Preminger offers an unsparing view of war and its overturning of the natural order, as the young die and the old grieve, romance yields to blind lust, and soldiers wounded in body and in soul find victorious battle as tragic as defeat.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/05/16/otto-premingers-moma-retrospective
>>69702114
Liberty Valance?
True Grit?
>>69702212
What this guy said, he was the idealized "MAN" for entire generations. What he represented on the silver screen was an unflinching, uncompromising morality. You do the right thing, as near as you can tell, because its the right thing to do. He's the archetype for character and grit.
>>69702114
Americans love tough guy characters, and in his day, John Wayne was the quintessential tough guy, but also a hero, which is another thing we like. His characters never shot first, only to defend themselves, never shot anyone in the back, threw hard, clean punches, and always defended good people. It's a very American thing. Not so much in this day and age, but from the 40's all the way until his death in 79 he was the shit.
>>69702509
>never shot anyone in the back
But he was The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.
>>69702563
Shh, keep the myth alive goshdarnit
>>69702459
Wow, another Preminger retrospective. There was one at Cinematheque Ontario in the summer of '09 where I saw In Harm's Way and many other Premingers. Made me realize he is one of the great directors.
>>69702563
That was the whole point of his character in the movie. The real hero that gave up everything because it was the right thing to do.
>>69702563
>>69702656
Only to save his friend.
>>69702776
I love this movie. Why was it the right thing to do? I thought he did it only because he didn't want glory. He was a cowboy through and through, he didn't want attention.
Wayne embodies everything wrong with America, the gung ho righteousness reeks. The guy is propaganda given life. I did however dig him in The Searchers.
whats his best war movie? is itsands of iwo jima?
>>69702949
There is literally nothing wrong with America.
>John Wayne was racist. This belief comes primarily from a statement he made during a 1971 interview with Playboy magazine when he said, “I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility.
>>69702897
>Why was it the right thing to do?
Not that anon, but bc Valance was a scourge on the town and was about to kill the man who made the woman he loved happy? Preserving the myth that the Stewart character was responsible, not taking credit, gave Stewart's politician legitimacy and allowed the populace to believe in him and justice.
>>69689308
Let me fight for you Khaloreesi!
>By contrast, John Wayne told an interviewer that he considered High Noon "the most un-American thing I've ever seen in my whole life".[19] In 1959, Wayne teamed up with director Howard Hawks to make Rio Bravo as a conservative response. "I made Rio Bravo because I didn't like High Noon," Hawks explained. "Neither did Duke [Wayne]. I didn't think a good town marshal was going to run around town like a chicken with his head cut off asking everyone to help. And who saves him? His Quaker wife. That isn't my idea of a good Western."
Any other anons here whose Dad's revered The Duke with a mythic reverence? Mine had a statue.
>>69702897
Because Liberty was going to fucking murder Stewart, who was a good guy actively trying to make things better for people. Even though he and Wayne were going after the same girl, that before Stewart showed up it was a foregone conclusion the two of them were going to settle down. So he kills liberty in secret, never says anything when the girl runs to him, and when Jimmy is feeling guilty and trying to shirk his newfound popularity Wayne shows up and slaps some sense into him. Because he did that Stewart goes on to a life in politics, representing the little guys, the good guys, helping to turn the territory into a state - and he owes Wayne his life so his entire career is trying to live up to the example he set for him. When he finally dies Stewart comes clean, because he hated no one knowing about wayne, only to have the writer tear it up because he ALSO understood the importance of what he did, the importance of one of the last legends of the wild west.
>>69703114
But High Noon is fantastic
>>69703156
Superb breakdown. It makes you realize the selflessness of Wayne's character. You should be proud of yourself for this analysis.
>>69702658
Interesting, I'm ignorant to his work but look forward to getting into it. I'll may start there, with In Harm's Way. Any other favorites/suggestions?
-Speaking of Richard Brody, and Liberty Valance, I first saw it as he included it in his top ten list of favorite American films. He writes and speaks insightfully on it, as in this video.
>The Western is intrinsically the most political movie genre, because, like Plato’s “Republic,” it is concerned with the founding of cities, and because it depicts the various abstract functions of government as direct, physical actions. It’s also an inherently romantic genre, because of its connection with the nation’s founding mythology. (One of the strengths of Ford’s movie is its depiction of the actual grassroots practical politicking in the Western territories.) The movie’s most famous line, of course, is that of a newspaperman: “This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.” Ford prints it—and prints the facts behind it—and makes a movie about the moral burden of a life lived in the name of a myth and the ethical implications of direct action.
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/the-man-who-shot-liberty-valance
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/choosing-the-best-american-movies
>>69703500
Not the same guy, but I would recommend Advice and Consent from Preminger. Pretty comfy movie.
>>69691573
So fucking good.
>>69703500
>Any other favorites/suggestions?
The movies before Laura (1944) aren't very good. The early noirs are all very good, especially Angel Face.
Some other favourites:
Bonjour Tristesse
Advise & Consent
Exodus
Tell Me That You Love Me, Junie Moon
The Court-Martial of Billy Mitchell
The Human Factor
>>69703636
>>69703750
Thanks anons
>>69703750
>Bonjour Tristesse
Fuck no, this movie was awful. I would call it worst Preminger movie but I didn't see his later works.
>>69704191
If you would call that his worst, you really don't get Preminger.
Of his later films, I would say Rosebud is the worst.
>>69693929
https://youtu.be/25b5TJFLHwE
He's fucking hilarious in interviews
Fort Apache is so fucking good
>>69690456
take that back or I'll hit you with my handbag
>>69705288
When men were men
Fuck John wayne. He hated black people
>>69705843
In his defence, black people are objectively less civilised.
>>69702114
>implying
Every young man of the Beatles' generation idolized John Wayne, whether they were American or from across the pond.
Read any biography of a rock star of that era, Paul McCartney, Roger Daltry, etc, and they go on endlessly about how they were obsessed with American cowboys and western films.
John Wayne isn't just an American thing.
IS THAT YOU JOHN WAYNE?
IS THIS ME?
>>69705843
t.krager
>>69705843
WTF? I love John Wayne now
John Wayne was a pussy and a hateful little bitch.
MUH BURGERS
I always liked Eastwood better and thought John Wayne was overrated, but the searchers was top fuckin tier.
>>69707214
oh yeah? For what reasons?
>>69707214
you wouldn't dare say that to his face, little girl
