Just what was his problem?
He wanted to control the spice, and by extension the universe.
>>69623323
The sleeper never awokened.
>>69623323
The pussy foot Atreides. House Harkonnen is best house.
>>69623323
Should've used this design desu and feyd is supposed to look like a cute girl
>>69623967
Imiagine Orson Wells dressed like that... Inbf ahhhh the french
>>69623967
Oh Feyd, beautiful Feyd.
>>69623323
God dammit Lynch's Dune was a master class in costume and set design.
That awful "true to the books" sfi-fi channel version looked so fucking cheap after getting used to the lavish look of the Lynch version.
>>69623967
The miniseries got the Baron right.
>>69624153
The sets were good mostly. I liked the costumes too, for the most part. I think it was pretty good considering the budget they were probably working with.
>>69623967
>>69624101
Jodorowsky's Dune would have been interesting aesthetic wise, but I would rather see a faithful adaption of the books. Jodorowsky is highly overrated on this board. He is decent at best.
>>69624153
I've read the entire series save for his son's trash. I love both them and the Lynch's movie, but for different reasons.
>>69624319
Im pretty sure that feyd is first described wearing a dress and reclining on a sofa or something so I dunno I think that cartoon version could be more accurate but I could be mistaken not saying he's trap mode cause he's definitely athletic otter mode but he might be a little umm queer idk
>>69624250
Dune is overdue for a bigger budget treatment or serialized TV show. GameOfThrones success should make that feasible. I'm afraid ofmuch the from the books would get butchered in the translation from page to screen though.
>>69624363
Same, although I did listen to his son's volumes on audiobook while I was at work, you didn't miss much. I think the sfi-fi version is closer to Herbert's vision but Lynch's take was so unique and confident in it's style that I can't help but love it.
>>69624501
No he isn't. Feyd is great gladiator in the books although he uses a poison blade. He has killed something like 200 men in the arena. The queer aspect just comes from the Baron admiring him.
>>69624541
Exactly. I love Lynch's take on it. He was a good choice. It's hard to find a director who would do the source material justice, but Lynch was weird enough to make it entertaining.
>>69624541
No it isn't. The movie and then later adaptation into the miniseries was fine
>>69624592
I SAID HE WAS A FAGGOT QUEER THAT DOESNT MEAN HE ISNT A CUNNING WARRIOR
>>69624666
No, I have to agree that a proper Dune movie is wanted. Not a Peter Berg directed shitfest that was planned, but a young risky, talented director who had a production company's money to back him/her would be interesting to see.
>>69624849
But he wasn't.
>ywn become a giant worm God Emperor and rule for thousands of years
Just spice my shit up
>>69625018
>ywn lose yourself for years exploring the genetic history of mankind through the eyes of those who lived it
Just spill my water already.
>>69624153
Which part of the master class covers the trashbag soldiers?
>>69623323
Cystic acne.
>>69623323
He had no clear goal other than green and ruling the universe. Within the story he is a pawn being manipulated by the greater force of the Bene Gesserit (the actual antagonists of the first Dune book).
>>69625173
Everyone's being manipulated by the Bene Gesserit. In the end they are the saviors...to an extent.
>>69625018
Look how comfy this nigga looks
>>69625093
Dunno senpai, some of the guys in the back look a little goofy with the final fantasy level of straps and belts but they weren't meant to be seen up close.
Still way better than even the LOTR trilogy which is considered amazing costumes these days.
Poor Thufir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCbR0wZWJxQ
>>69624867
I just wonder if a movie can do it justice. It's so deep lore that to have a film less than four hours long, they'd have to gloss over things and do shitty montages. A miniseries with a bigger budget might be the best move.
>>69625086
That water belongs to the sietch, lad.
>>69625241
Yes, as the series progresses they become the protagonists.
>>69624319
>Jodorowsky is highly overrated
No shit. Jodorowsky is everyone's entry level "weird art thing you watch in college" director.
>>69625324
After the "keylog" and following expansion.
>>69625302
Stylized CG tv show would be the best way to get all the ships, designs, armor, creatures, etc without spending millions of dollars
>>69625361
Agreed, but I would rather have a discussion on the merits of his films than the latest underwear hero. And I don't even like Jodorowsky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B6jgkcANRE
>>69625449
>mfw nobody ever wants to talk about Fando Y Lis or Panic art
>>69625411
I'd watch that. It would make the other books possible too. Make it happen.
>>69625545
This game is fun as fuck.
Why won't anyone ally with me though, I'm the 2nd strongest power in the galaxy :(
>>69623323
Stereotypical fat evil antagonist with the cliche motivation of desire of power and control.
Still adore Dune, the book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWq15lDh8yM
Is it me or does Feyd look genuinely disgusted and terrified of his uncle?
>>69624319
His version was so far from Dune.
>world establishes menatats and stops the production of robots
>Jodo decides that the Emperor is paranoid and gets a robot lookalike to fill in for himself
>also Paul trains with a robot
That's just one thing that his version would have been so far removed from the book.
But I would have loved to seen the unbelievable cast and bizarre effects from O'Bannon. Plus Foss' ship design was crazy.
>>69624541
This. A tv show of 10-12 epiosdes for 5-7 seasons could cover the entire series. Or at least Frank's books and maybe the last two books.
And HBO is the only destination I see viable. Showtime is garbage and wouldn't house it; FX possible but they fucked over WoT so I don't want them to have Dune; and AMC is awful. Starz could be another option but I doubt they have the means to giving Dune it's much needed high budgets.
>>69625998
I'd kill for an animated mini-series Dune.
>>69626038
In a Heavy Metal style, I could see it. But it'd probably only do the first book and leave the end of it open.
>>69625871
I would have loved to have Salvador Dali as the Padishah Emperor Shaddam IV. It would be akin to Marlon Brando as Kurtz in Apocalypse Now.
>>69626038
>>69626082
I'd rather see something grand and cinematic in style like a high fantasy sci fi Prince of Egypt, complete with all the messianic overtones. The grand style would be fitting for the scope of the dune universe but something like that would probably be more costly than building sets for a miniseries.
>>69626246
This makes me wonder why this has never been attempted. What the fuck would an animation team have to lose?
>>69626143
It would have been insane. I was more stoked on Orson as Baron. That was spot on casting.
>>69625829
Wouldn't you be?
>>69626298
It's probably too risky for a large studio production given the amount of money it takes to distribute these days. Maybe a smaller independent animation studio could try it if they self financed, but then I wonder whether the rights to Dune are even available to put it back into production in the first place.
>>69626366
A lower budget cg animation like the Star Wars or Tron cartoons would be the best way to get it done.
>>69623838
Yes he did you moron
>>69627011
Agreed, and the format would look good, could do the universe justice to so long as they don't go too PG-13 in tone.
>>69624189
no it fucking didn't
I want you to come up with Arrakis' theme song
They could probably get away with just doing the first three books, the rest sucked.
>>69628317
Nah they were okay. Shit got weird. It just wasn't fresh anymore. Even his kid's books were okay, in a scifi fix kind of way.
chapterhouse was pretty climactic
>>69628657
Yeah. It's the world building books Brian and Kevin did that feel somewhat superfluous. They're not awful but they're pretty much there for the fans.
>>69624363
I agree. They are both great, in their own way. I know David Lynch never read the books, I'm surprised it turned out so well.
>>69624101
H O T
>>69628657
hunters and sandworms were awful, awful awful books that shouldn't have been written
>>69625829
Did he rape his heartplug?
>>69624153
Yeah I agree. The Lynch/DeLaurentis version had some top tier atmosphere and the depiction of the esoteric factions was great; the Mentats, Bene Gesserit, and Spacing Guild especially.
>>69629779
Too bad they didn't use pic related as a member of the spacing guild onscreen.
Best fucking mat paintings too.
>>69631114
>>69625258
They cut so many great scenes from Dune. They should have realized that what they had would look insane no matter what they did with it by the time they were cutting and just have kept that shit. Who cares if 9/10ths of the audience won't remember Thufir by that point, it's so well done it still works.
>>69625173
>>69625241
>>69625324
Really? I'm just starting Children of Dune now and I can't imagine ever getting to like those miserable cunts.
>>69625018
was he a wizard?
>>69624153
Every time I watch this version, I notice the sound first. I have NEVER seen a movie with more absolutely crisp dialogue.
>>69627011
>>69627254
>having autism
>>69623323
MuaHAhaHaHaHaahaa the spice of Arrakis has always been celebrated for it's excellence. There is a House of the Lansgrad by Baron Vladimir Harkonnen devoted to that same Arrakean excellence. The Fremen are crushed and squeezed by Raban..
>>69623323
chronic acne, having Sting as a nephew
>>69623323
Space AIDS
>>69637332
underrated
>>69625545
>lasers
just blow my shields up
>>69633934
I think he was virgin, if you are asking for that
>1000+ years über grand wizard
They should never make another Dune series or movie. As we have seen with game of thrones modern series writing has become horrible. And any deviation from the books will lead to ripples throughout the story.
Like Paul, Dune as a series is trapped by its own excellence and doomed to walk a single path for the rest of its days
>>69637978
he was a waifuist
>my Ghanifu
>my Hwifu
>>69623323
He viciously raped Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohaim while she was tranquilized but she used her Bene Gesserit powers to secretly infect him with a debilitating disease that turned him from an actually very attractive muscular man to a deformed, fat, pus-caked freak.
Also, he's a devout homosexual who regularly has orgies with little Harkonnen boys in his private rape dungeon (yes, this is cannon).
>>69638868
that's fanfiction written by Pinky and the Brain
>>69623323
SPACE AIDS
>>69624924
he definitely was a little bit, in the first book at leastthe only one i've read
>>69625258
why the hell was this cut? it was amazing
The Lady Jessica is Baron Harkonnen's daughter I believe? Or his cousin?
>>69633934
>>69637978
He was a cuck. He married Ghanima but Farad'n made her a slave to the BCC (Big Corrino Cock) and Leto had to watch from a corner every night.
>>69640808
He could literally live through every sexual intercourse his ancestors had.
He's had enough sex for multiple lifetimes, literally. It's why he was ok with Hwi being only a soulmate, it's like you don't get being a 6000 year old space worm.
>>69625258
Hawat was my favorite character in the book.
>>69640622
Daughter. Paul saw it later on.
How do you think Frank would conclude the series had he lived and wrote the last book?
>>69642595
Same kind of bullshit that those two fucks wrote. Herbert lost it completely after the third or fourth book, and even those were of dubious quality already.
>>69642656
3 read like an anime, but 4 was great.
My favorite is 2 anyway.
>>69642595
HUNTERS AND SANDWORMS
>>69642656
>>69642677
Interesting, I've heard plenty that 3 is a mild/underwhelming lead up to 4, but so far I'm enjoying 3 much more than 2. I didn't understand the motivation for half the things Paul did in 2, especially not having Scytale killed as soon as he knew that it (he?) was impersonating that Fremen girl.
>>69643682
I liked 3 more than 2 as well, but I must admit it felt really weak and read like a mediocre fantasy novel. Herbert should have kept all the spice related superhuman stuff obscure like he did in the first book.
>>69623323
He was the the penultimate apex of the human species. He personally dragged his house from obscurity to the most powerful ones in the galaxy. He was the antithesis of the atreides.
>>69643682
Dune messiah is usually the one book that keeps moving up the rankings on subsequent reads. The whole reason frank wrote the original was the establish the back story for dune messiah.
>>69643682
Anon he was caught in a trap. he couldnt see scytale for what he was because the conspiracy was hidden by another prescient.
>>69624153
GOAT
I've probably posted this before, but Dune Messiah felt like a feverish nightmare. It'd take a great director to actually carry that feeling out.
>>69644444
LONG LIVE THE QUINTERS
>>69644457
All of Dune after, well, Dune, is too philosophical and religious to ever be adapted well, I think. I mean I'm only up to Children but damn, how did they ever make that successful miniseries?
>>69644358
Perhaps he didn't know what Scytale's plans were, but it's absolutely clear from the book that he knows the girl for a Face Dancer in disguise the very minute he meets her. What possible good could a Face Dancer do within his household like that?
>>69644308
I thought it all started as one big ecology project?
>>69623323
Was he autistic?
>>69637978
I bet he and his sister played with each other before he started the golden path.
>>69646718
>chani taking control of her sister and tries to sex him scene
>all that boner as a kid
>>69644444
THE QUINTS MUST FLOW
I hated the look of the navigators though, not in a they look shit kind of war, just in the way they looked like sand blasted testicles. Made me feel squeezy.
>>69644775
Yes. But he also knew the tielaxu always give their targets a way to escape. He discusses as much with alia when the find the body in the desert. Paul is allowing the conspiracy to play out because he is trying to find a way out of the trap. Having enemies who are concealed from his oracular visions (further muddied by the dune tarot).
That being said paul is disgusted by his empire and sees the same weaknesses creeping in. Dune messiah is about the tragedy of prescience (literally the theme of all the books). Paul tried to hide from the golden path because he was afraid. Leto II saw the necessity and sacrificed his humanity for humanity.
>>69646718
They know the dangers and leto even remarks that their hormones would get the best of them if they did nothing else.
>>69625574
nobody wants to talk about tusk (1980) either.it's complete shit
I feel like the movies get a lot of unwarranted hate.
There's no real practical way of making a giant book into a tiny time slot and still make it interesting.
I mean LOTR had a bunch of shit cut from the movies. Thankfully it ended up still being a bit of a master piece.
What was with the dog, that was such a random addition
>first book is about a bunch of people who live in the desert with Arabic sounding names going on a Jihad against aristocracy and corporations
Yeah Hollywood is never going to give that a $200 million budget in this political climate
I wish I could meet David Lynch and tell him that I like his version of Dune. Sure the story was kind of bad and the acting, while unintentionally entertaining, could've been better, everything else about the movie is absolutely great.
>>69649086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWq15lDh8yM
>This scene didn't give him goosebumps.
Just started reading Dune recently. About 250 pages in and loving it. Also i have seen the David Lynch film and didn't mind it (that score).
What a coincidence this thread has popped up! Are the sequels also worth reading?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm4E4umP9Qc
>>69649628
Only the Frank Herbert ones, his sons books are basically fanfiction
The westwòod game was better
>>69649628
I would recommend all 6 Frank Herbert ones (it was supposed to be 2 trilogies with 4th one a bridge between them, but he died before writing the 7th one), though the precise quality of the first book is not present on the other ones (except for maybe the 4th one). I think Herbert got smothered inside the mythology he created. Still, they're far better than any genre fiction that exists today.
>>69651803
>tfw never managed to finish dune 2000 all throughout my childhood
>>69651673
I heard his son hated him and actively tried to destroy his work.
>>69636762
I literally have no idea what you're going on about faggot
>>69648879
Not random at all - official dog of House Atreides
>>69625246
>>69642677
Book 4 was my least favourite first time round, then on my second and all subsequent readings it became my favourite.
>>69623323
He was BTFO by a little girl.
>>69625361
I thought that was Lynch.
>>69653255
The first time I read Emperor, I dropped it around fifty pages in, just couldn't get into it. Later read it and now I think it's the second best book in the series (after the first book). I think it's the massive change of overall themes and the tone of the book that pushes people away at the first glance.
Arrakis is a lush green planet for fucksake. And they don't even call it Arrakis anymore.
>>69624319
>I would rather see a faithful adaption of the books
No you wouldn't. Anytime someone says this shit I have to assume they've never actually read the books. All the big action setpieces happen off the page, and the majority of the story is people having philosophical discussions.
It makes a great read, but it would be box office poison.
>>69655129
>All the big action setpieces happen off the page, and the majority of the story is people having philosophical discussions.
This. Also it's filled with monologues and thoughts of people. It's simply not suited to be turned into a proper film.
>>69655206
It would be a better stage adaptation then it would be for film.
If they adapt it expect a big stupid hollywood movie that completely misses the point of the book.
>>69625258
Remember the cat with the rodent duct-taped to it, which he had to milk for the antidote? Instant Classic.
>>69639618
Not the bit about him being a rampant homosexual boy-fucker.
>>69655502
The Baron was a connoisseur of sensation, decadence, and excess.
But seriously fuck KJA.
>>69623323
Atreides fucking shits.
>>69655114
Arrakis - Rakis
Caladan - Dan
Giedi Prime - Gammu
>>69644444
Once I did shrooms and went to a skeezy strip club. The first dancer must've been in her late 30's and you could still see the stretch marks from pregnancy. I wasn't putting any money down cause she was nasty and I was high af, so she came and put her snatch right in my face. At that point, I swear, she made it breathe at me. It looked just like the navigator. I panicked and fell out of my chair. Good times.
>>69656821
This, god emperor takes place a couple thousand years after Children. It was a linguistic drift.
>>69657080
Lel'd
>>69656821
>Giedi Prime - Gammu
This pissed me off the most. Why did Herbert focus on Giedi Prime so much without a proper payoff on the later trilogy? It felt like fanservice at that point.
>>69653413
>yfw you realize he had his revenge by possessing Alia and causing her to go insane and jump off a balcony.
>>69657681
Alia becoming possessed by the baron's genetic mind ghost was definitely not one of my favorite plot mechanisms in those books.
>>69658295
I've only recently read that for the first time. At the start it looks like it'll only be a subtle thing that effects her and it'd take a lot for others to see whats happening. But that doesn't happen and she goes mental just because the book needs a villain. Or at least it felt that way to me.
