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>ASM Spider-Man made his own costume (twice) and both times looked good
>CW Spider-Man had to have Iron Man make his costume
>ASM Spider-Man actually sounds like Spider-Man
>CW Spider-Man sounds like baby Anakin from Star Wars ep one
>ASM Peter actually looks like Peter Parker (especially Ramo's Spider-Man)
>CW Peter looks like Toby Maguire's retarded son
>ASM Spider-Man doesn't bow down to authority figures because they tell him to
>CW Spider-Man easily becomes Iron Fascist's Lapdog
>ASM Spider-Man actually tried to talk to his villains (like Electro)
>CW Spider-Man almost murdered Falcon (a ordinary human), Bucky, and Captain America without trying to talk them out of fighting
>ASM Spider-Man actually wears a real costume throughout the movies
>CW Spider-Man's cgi costume looks like something from Green Lantern or a ps1 game
>ASM Spider-Man is actually funny
>CW Spider-Man just says stuff is cool and make bad pop-culture jokes (doesn't even know what AT-ATs are called)
>ASM Spidey inspires people
>CW Spidey helps Iron Fascist lock heroes up
Amazing Spider-Man really is the best cinematic Spider-Man. Why did Sony get rid of him again?
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>>69608979
>/tv/ has become so contrarian that they are actually defending the shit spiderman that had this scene
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yEz_zs67hwY
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>>69608979
>ASM
>Classic
And Raimi's had by far the best suit
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>>69608979
Nigger we just saw you trying this on /co/
heres your (you) now go
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Both are supposed to be the same age, one is played by a thirty year old. People who actually defend these movies are fucking insane, you are honestly retarded.
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>>69608979
go to bed, Garfield
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>>69609271
Andrew actually sounds like Spider-Man.

Toad Holland sounds like a 5-year-old girl (despite being 19-years old)

/thread
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anyone wish it was toby playing spiderman still?

hed been great with the other avengers
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>>69609387
Yeah, but he might've been too intense for the pg-13 avengers
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>The Amazing Alpha-Man
>Good
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>>69608979
>ASM
>classic

Riami's Spidey is the classic, ASM is fucking shit.
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>>69609387
No, he was never charismatic or funny enough to be Spider-Man. Holland had more charm in 20 minutes than Tobey had in three movies.
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>>69609038
>implying that wasn't a good scene
SOMEONE GET THIS HOTHEAD OUTTA HERE!!!
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I really feel like people don't realize Peter Parker is not nearly as cool as he thinks he is / projects in the costume.
That's part of the character, and Tobi was the closest to that, albeit loosely.
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This one
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>>69609387
Yes, best and most likable spiderman

Holland is okay tho, Garfield a shit
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>>69609327
Go eat a fly, Toad Holland
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>>69609487
Wow, you are retarded.

>>69609387
Yes.
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>>69609487
Holland just had more quips. Tobey was a relatable human being, and completely believable as a loser. I mean that's what Spidey is supposed to be - the everyman.
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>>69609562
you were so unmemorable as an actor, I don't even remember your first name
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>ASM spidey supposed to be a genius
>Uses Bing
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>>69608979
Garfield sucked. Tugboat sucked. Holland super-duper-mega-ultra-100xinfinity sucked. Why can't they find a good Spider-Man?
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>>69608979
Marvel really must have some kind of mind control device. The new Spider-Man was by far the worst. Literally looks like he fell out of a PS2. How is it that after literally 15 years of Spider-Man movies, Marvel somehow managed to fuck up the look of him so spectacularly? Name one good fucking reason he had to be CGI. It looked like fucking Space Jam.
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>>69609626
Bing is good for specific porn search
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>>69609038
>/tv/ defending "For you" sequence

That's only natural.
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>>69609753
How do you mean?
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>>69609842
lebanese
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>>69609589
Insulting people is easier than accepting that your favorite movies are trash, I understand.

>>69609599
Yes, Holland had more quips. He also had more of a sense of wonder about him in costume, as well as feeling like an actual teenager for the first time in five movies. There was nothing relatable about Tobey, he was like a nerdy caricature from an eighties boner movie. Real kids don't act like that. Real nerds don't act like that.

The original SM trilogy is fine as a campy adventure, but there's nothing relatable about the characters, because none of them are real people. My problem with Tobey's portrayal is literally just what you said - he isn't an everyman. I've never meet anyone like that.
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>>69609528
No; part of the character is that he's confident, funny, and obnoxious in the suit. It has nothing to do with being "cool", it has to do with having a personality that isn't just a heroic blank slate.
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I don't care what anyone says, ASM2 was a good movie, as far as capeshit goes.

But yeah, the song sequence was embarassing, what were they thinking?
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>>69609736
So he could crawl around like a spider and actually fight like Spidey does in the comics.
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>>69610099
No the point is Peter thinks he's acting cool but in reality he comes across as an obnoxious teenager.

Spiderman is a character Peter puts on.
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>>69610296
Spidey is the way he is because he's nervous as fuck and that's how he deals with potentially being killed. Especially the teenage version of him.
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>>69610152
Oh right, I forgot that out of the 6 movies that have Spider-Man as a prominent character, only Civil War features him crawling around and fighting. My bad.
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>>69610296
Tobey's version was excellent for the first movie, but throughout the trilogy he doesn't evolve. He's a lame bitch in the second, he's a lame bitch in the third. ASM was much more relatable imo, at least he didn't act like a 15 yo like full grown McGuire did.

Civil War one was ok for what he wua supposed to be.
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>"Classic"
>New

Damn man it's been like ten years it ain't that old.
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>>69610152
...He does that in all the movies.
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>>69610792
No but this was the first one to where it was like comics
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>>69610296
>No the point is Peter thinks he's acting cool but in reality he comes across as an obnoxious teenager.

And that's exactly what Holland did.

Tobey didn't come across as obnoxious, he barely joked at all. Spiderman is supposed to be the character all the other Avengers tell to shut up and take things seriously. The charisma blackhole that was Tobey's performance would feel completely out of place in a Marvel film.

Glad he's gone.
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>>69610536
It's the only way that features him crawling around and fighting in a way that is completely reminiscent of the source material, yes.

>>69610832
What is hard to understand about what I'm saying? I'm not saying he never crawls or fights in the other films. I'm saying he doesn't do it in the way Spider-Man does, and in CW he does, specifically because of all the CGI.
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>>69610838
Why couldn't they cast someone that could do a believable American accent? Why couldn't they make a costume instead of using CGI?
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>>69610914
What,specifically, does he do in Civil War that is so different than any of the other films? I literally have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>69610922
Why can't you make your own goddamn movie instead of bitching about non-issues and your own nostalgic feelings slowly fading?
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>>69611005
Rewatch the scene where he fighting Bucky and Black Falcon specifically. The way he moves seems more evocative of a spider than the previous movies, similar to how Black Panther has a ton of catlike poses and mannerisms for seemingly no reason. It makes them seem more alien and weird.
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>>69608979
Your entire post is wrong for calling ASM a classic. maybe a classic piece of shit.
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>>69611115
I have that scene saved and have watched it dozens of times. He crouches, sticks to walls, swings from webs in the exact same way he always has. He does nothing in that sequence that he hasn't done before. The only difference I notice is that he is cgi. You're seeing what you want to see, senpai.
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>>69611120
For you.
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>>69611261
Whatever man.

I'm just giving you my impressions, you can think what you want.

All I can say, is that if this is the direction they are going for in terms of Spider-Man's action sequences and wallcrawling, then I fully applaud the CGI.
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>>69608979
TASM was cancelled for a good reason.
TASM2 is one of the biggest pieces of shit you can find in this genre.
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>>69611532
I'm fine with them using CGI for certain elements, but there is no reason whatsoever that the character needs to be 100% CG at all times. It looks fucking atrocious.
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>>69608979
God the picture on the right looks bad. This is the worst he's ever looked by far.
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>>69608979
>ASM Peter actually looks like Peter Parker
The what? ASM had the worst Peter of all Spider-man movies
>CW Spider-Man almost murdered
No, he didn't, he wasn't going lethal

Rest is more or less ok

Also you forgot
>ASM Spidey can't make his own webs and needs to search online what's electricity
>CW Spidey makes his own webs and is actually smart and knowledgeable
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>>69611842
Ahem

He look just like Ramos's Spider-Man.

*Mic Drop*
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>>69612043
Yes, BUT, Tom Holland looks like a hideous troll person. Spiders are gross. Ergo, Tom Holland is the better Spider-Man.
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>>69612043
>That looks like Garfield
if you say so, to me he looks more like Holand

*grabs mic from the floor and puts it on its place*
Don't leave stuff on the floor, anon, later you'll complain about not finding it.
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>>69612043
Ah, looks, sorry, I thought you meant Garfield's Peter was like the Peter from the comics, which isn't, like at all.
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Both are terrible Ultimate Spiderman inspired lanky ass faggots.

Real Spidey is buff as fuck, more so than Toby was but he was close at least.
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>>69612375
>Real Spidey is buff as fuck
I wouldn't say buff, more like ottermode
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>>69612251
>>69612043
They both look like disgusting Britbongs. Was there a typo somewhere on a breakdown sheet at one point that said Spider-Man was from "York" instead of "New York," and they never bothered fixing it?
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>>69612444
clearly the physique of an eleven year old englishman.
B R A V O R U S S O S
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>>69610047

Found the /co/ faggot
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>>69612444
Fuck off with that slick new age shit
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>>69612533
Of course, a 15 years old Spider-man should have the physique of a 30 years old due with 15 years of experience as superhero.

Look his first appearance, the body of a culturist
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>>69610047
>The original SM trilogy is fine as a campy adventure, but there's nothing relatable about the characters, because none of them are real people
Ah yes, nothing like the grounded, true to life world of the Avengers. I literally felt like I was watching a movie about me and my friends. It all felt so lifelike.
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>>69612683
Don't worry, I have older examples, you call this buff?
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>>69612751
Um, yes I do. That's Patrick Bateman physique.
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>>69612711
Yes, he was 17 in his first appearence. They dropped that shit pretty early on, though. Fuck high school Spider-Man, and fuck the "John Hughes" movie they're looking to make.
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>>69609358
You can't /thread yourself.

You look pathetic.
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>>69608979
>>ASM Peter actually looks like Peter Parker (especially Ramo's Spider-Man)
what?
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>>69612875
Yeah well I can so shutup.

/Thread
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>>69610127
FOR YOUUUU~
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Any recs for Spider-Man trades worth reading? Preferably stuff from the past 10 years
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>>69613292
>Quesada or Dan Slott
Ppfffhahaahahahahaha, you chose the worst decade to read Spider-man
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>>69613536
Ugh, I forgot those losers were on the book for so long. What about stuff from the late 90s/early 00s?
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>>69610545
I think the Raimi version was too gloomy and reserved in every film to be sure. I'm just saying it was the closest to the Peter -> Spiderman Character dynamic.
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>>69613292
Back in Black
Grimm Huny
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>>69613292
Spiderman:Blue
Ultimate Spider-man before nig spider-man shows up
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Who cares it's about a kid in tights who has spider powers you fucking autist
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>>69608979
Civil War Superman was literally flawless
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>>69615022
Except for the Bieber voice.
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>>69613292
No. It all sucks. Best Spider-Man from the past ten years was when he filled in for Johnny on the Fantastic Four, but that's not a full appearance.
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>>69615106

He's 15, what do you want?
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>>69609038
That's pure kino, amigo. Especially compared to MCU.
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>>69611537
That would be BvS, Xmen Origins, and a shit ton of other movies AsM2 was mediocre but only because of studio interference if Sony had let Webb do what he wanted to do we would've had a better film probably Spidey 1 teir but than we wouldn't have MCU Spidey
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>>69609599
He is a loser because he is spiderman, he would be scientist if he had time to focus on college
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>>69613012
Faggot/10
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>>69615022
Supa-man?!
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>mfw i actually liked garfields spiderman
tobey makes me anxious
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