R I G H T F U L Q U E E N
it's out
Great Gatsby was such a good novel
Nth for most handsome man in all the Seven Kingdoms
>>69372250(You)
RIP Eurio
Nth for tmdmid
Will Dany ever go to the shadowlands? Will we ever see it in the show?
>>69372190
You didn't link the last thread OP
You had SEVERAL jobs OP!
>He found a line and pulled on it, fighting toward the hatch to get himself below out of the storm, but a gust of wind knocked his feet from under him and a second slammed him into the rail and there he clung. Rain lashed at his face, blinding him. His mouth was full of blood again. The ship groaned and growled beneath him like a constipated fat man straining to shit.
Dissapointed that the guy the brough for the ToJ scene didnt look nor sounded like Sean Bean
>>69372356
I hope not.
>>69372331
People still believe Robb had a plan?
The state of affairs when Robb leaves Riverrun: - Tywin is at Harrenhal - Stannis is sitting at Dragonstone - Renly is making his glacial procession from the South
A lot of things are up in the air. Will Tywin stay at Harrenhal? Will he take the fight to Stannis or Renly? Will Renly accept an alliance with Robb? What will Stannis do?
It's a total crap shoot.
Further, Robb has no idea that he will be able to get through the Golden Tooth so easily or that he will be able to obliterate Stafford Lannister's host with minimal losses. It's really only due to these factors that he is able to raid the Westerlands as he does and have the capability to lay a trap for Tywin at all.
At the end of the day, the order to hold Riverrun was not part of some grand design. It was a sensible order given to a troublesome Lord who proved himself to be a poor commander, spreading his forces thin but still trying to be an aggressor leading to his own capture and siege of his castle.
Robb needed to make sure Riverrun was secure as a base of operations in the Riverlands. If Tywin attacks Riverrun, Robb can smash him like he did Jaime. If he did not, Robb should've been able to at least count on Edmure to hold his ground and allow Robb to improvise, which is exactly what happened.
Granted Edmure did a great job at the Battle of the Fords from a tactical perspective. But if he lost it would've been a disaster.
>>69372452
get over it.
He looked close enough to play a young Ned. You probably wouldn't be satisfied unless they had Sean Bean Himself from 1985
Just realized the extent of George's cuckoldry.
For years and years this man teased little things. "Oh, you think he's dead, do you?"
"Yes, you will find out who Jon's mother is."
For years and YEARS this guy has artfully dodged hundreds of questions asked by interviewers and fans who tried to get some clues.
This is the guy who purposely didn't read fan theories as he didn't want them interfering with his own ideas.
And now he has to sit back on his fat ass as the TV show cuckolds him out of nearly every single reveal that he's been edging the fans for all these years.
100% cucked.
Poor Brienne, never got to explain the situation about Jaime to undead Cat. I have a bad feeling about the meeting between Cat and Jaime, though Jaime has actually grown as a character
>Jaime will never grow as a character in the show
That probably is one of the top 5 saddest things about this show.
Also: Stannis' character destruction
Jon Snow's actor
Sand Snake character change
Anything else? Major disappointments only
>>69372473
>counting on Radmure
>>69372356
>will dany go even FURTHER east?
God I hope not.
DABID
DABID WHAT IF WE LIKE MAKE ARTHUR DAYNE DUAL WIELDING LIGHTSABER XxXSWORDOFMORNINGXxX
DABID WHAT
DABID WHAT IF WE MAKE ARTHUR DDAYNE THE MOST EPIC MEME MASTER SWORDSMAN OF THE SERIES
DABID YES
>yfw Shae will be a faceless man and kill off meme Tyrion
>>69372552
No proper Grand northern alliance/conspiracy
>>69372555
How was it a mistake? Radmure beat Tywin.
Edmure did nothing wrong. He held Riverrun, and Robbs "plan" was so unfactorable that it defintley didnt exist. He used Edmure as a scapegoat because he knew Edmure was loyal.
>>69372536
originally yeah, but that may have changed along the way, if stannis takes kings landing robb probably just goes home and dares stannis or whoever else ends up on the throne to try to take on the north
thinking about it if that had happened it couldve easily have ended up in the iron throne dissolving and returning to separate kingdoms
>>69372552
>Jamie will never grow as a character in the show
Riverlands soon, anon. There is always hope.
>Jon Snow's actor
He has gotten much better. The only actors I really can't stand are the sand snakes and Emilia
>>69372628
I'm sure both Rob and Stannis could come to an agreement, the Stark and Baratheon families were close and Stannis hero-worshipped Ned
>>69372642
Kit sometimes acts really well, then other times acts likes garbage for some reason
If we take last episode for example, when telling Davos about them stabbing him was bad, but when he was executing them, hearing their last words, that was good
I think lots of the people on this board hate him for no reason
>>69372652
I doubt that, especially if Robb insisted on independence, which he would have. His bannermen would not allow him to be the second King who Knelt. There is a large chance that he would have lost the riverlands, but assuming that he knocked the Ironborn back into the ocean, all he would have to do is hold Moat Cailin.
>>69372652
The only agreement theyd come upon is Robb bending the knee.
Are we all forgetting that Stannis tried to use black magic on Robb?
>>69372652
>Stannis hero worshipped Ned
Wut
>>69372652
well yeah thats king of what i meant, robb controls north of the neck and stannis gets the trident back
but if that happens i could see dorne declaring independence and eventually with the central rule in disarray most kingdoms would openly revolt and there wouldnt be much there to stop them from going independent
>>69372704
being a manlet is not a reason?
good night sweet governor ;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDyZSSWbYVs
>>69372642
>>69372704
I can't hate too much on Kit, he does really well sometimes. Okay, he's not the guy I would have casted but he is fine.
Is Edmure still alive in the show? God I hope they bring him back and don't make him look like a bitch.
>>69372540
The books are so loaded with possibilities and purposeful misdirection that the fat man can still do whatever he wants to. of course, he probably won't turn over everything he was building to like that, but he could.
>>69372767
Recast Jon then
Kit's really great. Been liking him more and more. Too bad he's a manlet.
>>69372673
I don't think the lannisters would have been willing to fight if Casterly Rock and Lannisport got fucked up, even with the Tyrells. If they did, all Robb would have to do is hold Moat Cailin, assuming he could beat back the Ironborn. He would lose the Riverlands, but not the north.
>>69372652
>Stannis hero-worshipped Ned
Stannis literally tells Jon he has no loyalty to Ned and doesn't give a rat's ass about him, BUT he has honor. Ned saved him and Stannis just says its because Robert commanded him to.
On a tangent, aren't Bobby B and Ned gay for each other? Ned names his first born after goddamn Bobby
>>69372787
He's confirmed to be back.
So is Blackfish
Things we learned from this episode:
>Shaggy dog is dead
>Jon is not dead
>Rickon is not on Skagos
>Dorne has fallen to feminism
>Ser Gregog confirmed as Frankenstein
>Old man in tree is not Brynden Rivers
Any other fan theories cucked?
I come here only to see you pathetic fucks break down over every single minute of every episode, with the same guy who posts the "dabid" meme over and over again.
>>69372248
Queen of Cinder
>>69372754
This editing make GoT look like
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>>69372808
fuck yeah
>>69372825
>>69372815
dayne is a over rated faget who got FROGGED
>>69372815
>Old man in tree is not Brynden Rivers
I am pretty sure that "1000 years" comment was hyperbole
>D&D are clearly stretching the story out and playing it safe because they haven't got a clue how the stories will go, they just know the ending
I mean, it's obvious now isn't it? the winterfell battle will take place in ep 9 while in Winds of Winter it will be literally in the beginning of the book. J U S T
>>69372815
Son, do you even Umber as The North Remembers?
>>69372846
Is Bran gonna view Meera as the daughter of a backstabber now?
A Dishonourable family
>>69372754
Damn, I swear it was a mistake for D&D to kill Roose. If I could change the past, I'd have Martin not kill Tywin either, but sometimes radical changes are necessary for new moves to occur. Killing Roose doesn't really change anything as Ramsay always did waht he wanted.
Actually, why KILL Roose at all? From Ramsay's perspective, he shoudl be doomed in every case, UNLESS Roose truly makes him first born
>>69372854
Umbers are a split house, son.
>>69372861
i was pretty mad about bran getting mad about the whole thing
>>69372423
here lad, you dont read asoiaf for the literary excellence but for the comfy world building & sometimes big tweeeest. I agree that is cringe but his characters and sub plots are a good read.
>>69372868
I could see him killing Roose, but not his baby brother. Now he doesn't have an heir if shit goes south, which it will, and he has completely fucked his relations with the Frey's, a house that he will need at his side when the Lannisters find out about Sansa.
>>69372846
Oh yeah I forgot the Howland Reed reveal was complete bullshit.
>This is the wise swamp king who rules a floating magic fortress
>>69372847
>I am pretty sure that "1000 years" comment was hyperbole
Good one anon ;)
>>69372851
I'd never accuse D&D of stretching the story out.
I just had a thought. Let's say that Bastardbowl happens, Littlefinger rides in with the armies of the Vale, and crushes the Boltons/Karstarks/Umbers(?). Would he then be able to legitimize Jon as a Stark, Littlefinger being the lord of the Vale and all?
>>69372868
>>Actually, why KILL Roose at all?
yeah he couldve lived, boltons are getting fucked up very soon anyway, same way it didnt really make sense for stannis to kill his kid then die in battle 2 episodes later anyway
>>69372803
Have you seen Casterly Rock? That shit is impossible to take. Robbs plan to take CR in the show is a show only thing. Lannisport, i dont know if possible.
I agree about Ironborns, Robb would probably been able to beat them back.
>>69372552
Kit does a good job, jon is supposed to be brooding and quiet
>>69372929
And he's supposed to be small. Like what the fuck.
By all accounts, time and time again, Howland Reed is not strong, average at the very best, and at worst mocked for his small stature.
This fucker looks like Disposable Peasant Soldier #47
>>69372704
I rewatched few episoded of the first season. He literally never loses his mouth
>>69372943
It wouldnt be impossible to take
Just give Bronn 20 good men and some climbing boots.
Where is the leaks?
>>69372986
>show Howland isn't small to these guys
HAHAHAHA holy FUCK you bitter manlets are hilarious.
uno farto
>>69373086
I honestly never would have caught that as a fart if someone hadn't pointed that out. I thought it sounded like a chair squeaking.
>>69372851
Yes, nothing happened first 3 episodes. Jon literally could be ready to fight in 1-2 episodes but they'll make it the season finale. Which is stupid.
>Threadly reminder anyone could have just stabbed Dayne in the back right here and two people wouldn't have died
>m-muh honour
Ned showing us why he got his head cucked off, even as a young man.
maybe i missed something but why is Kevan against cercei?
>>69373118
t. Pycelle
>>69373059
>spouting stupid meme shit like 'manlet'
Go to bed.
>>69373086
ugh, stop acting like this is some reddit tier joke from D&D. they are actually inteligent and fans of high literature, the fart scene is a reference to Ulysses.
>>69373059
Literally what the fuck are you even talking about?
That guy isn't short.
>>69372190
I'll never understand this logic. What is this great sense of intellectual entitlement people feel towards story telling that dictates every sentence need be bloated and filled with not only the most descriptive words but also several of them? It's not a battle of who has the worlds greatest fucking vocabulary. She's shitting in a field guys. If you were telling this to your friends you'd say "honestly, the more I drank the more i had to fucking shit. It was insane." You wouldn't say "the odorous excretion ejaculated from my anus with a force unfelt by myself at any time I could prior conceive since my first moments on earth. The tumultuous furore finding it's way from my anal cavity, so that all within several hundred metre's of distance, was pure cacophony against the tranquility of the night. All listened but nary a whisper was heard. The moon's silken beam's of light, taken by the town's folk as the very word of God, even somehow seemed to dull under the inelegance of my excrete as it filled the stream I now huddled over, showing with more clarity than the water I had muddied with my sphynctical releases, that indeed God may never have spoken at all."
I MEAN WHO GIVES A FUCK. JUST ENJOY THE STORIES.
>>69373138
I shouldn't have laughed.
>>69373151
The point is people say GRRM is such a great writer when he's actually not very good at all.
Stop being such a fucking faggot.
>stephen_fry_quote.png
Fuck outta here.
>>69373138
where is the (farts) subtitle?
fucking hilarious though
>>69373002
>10 good men and some climbing spikes
ftfy
>>69372299
He is handsome, but also the most generic looking guy possible. I feel like Ive seen him somewhere thousands of time already.
>>69373124
Did you watch the fight? Dayne handles the back attackers too.
Reed likely hid behind a rock
>>69373232
Tits when?
>>69373238
Thank you
>>69373259
dude she is baldin' as fuck, she gonna be bald by the time GoT ends
>>69373259
Hopefully when she gets to castle black Jon fucks her since they're only cousins.
>>69372552
>>Jaime will never grow as a character in the show
>That probably is one of the top 5 saddest things about this show.
Fuck off, it is THE saddest thing about this show.
>>69373289
Why does Maisie look like a troll doll?
>>69373295
Why DOESNT he grow as a character? What I mean is, why did DnD think it was better for him to remain as he is?
>They waste time ageing up Tommen and making him a very fleshed out character
>They have the opportunity to age up Rickon and give us the closest thing to a werewolf in the show's lore
>Instead we get 'do you like games little man?' and dead next episode
>>69373151
the stephen fry quote was pretty gay, but i agree m8 you read the series for the stories etc etc.
>>69373352
Delete this.
>>69373365
Hes not gonna kill rickon hes gonna tell Jon he has rickon hostage
>>69373355
Jamie does grow though. giving Brienne the sword for one thing. and the Dorne arc for jamie is a mostly sad arc. He has not been his old arrogant self since coming back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNd62OEWDuM
SHOTS FIRED
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How do we make reddit pay bro??
>>69373207
Imagine it was said without it being a pic of Stephen Fry or his face. You wouldn't disagree then would you, cuck? He's right you know. And so was the guy you replied to. You're like a Liberal that screams "racist" whenhe hears an opinion he doesn't like. You couldn't say anything but "you used a Stephen Fry qoute lol" you narrow minded faggot.
>>69373151
Kek get a load of this anti art pleb
>>69372190
>Preston lives in Germany
>His father is dead
>He's into b-ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNd62OEWDuM
>>69373390
No thanks.
>>69373390
Nude scene WHEN. Might as well since we've all seen them already.
>>69373289
maisies body looks better than sophies in this pic
>>69373295
Yea, he's really the guy who carried book 4-5.
>>69373352
She is literally the ugliest person in the entire show. I would slip my cock into Hotpies shit-chute before I fuck Maisie. For some reason when she was sitting down with the Waif last episode she looked very very attractive and I quickly snapped out of it after remembering this picture of her just after emerging from under a bridge.
>>69373396
You were almost correct EXCEPT every since season 6 has begun, he's gone back to being bad. Arrogant, violent, and sucking Cersei's toes
>>69373295
>Jamie wants to fight the river lords
i read a leak where he wants to fight instead of suing for peace then i will genuinely stop caring. im annoyed with the umbers handing over rickon.
>>69373289
Jon's only for Arya
>>69373428
>ywn shoot hoops with pressy
>ywn console him for his loss
>ywn share refugee BBC with him
>>69373355
>>69373396
They fucked up the timing. Jaime grows as contrast to Cersei, responding to her circumstances.
They did her shit already though. No burning of her letter to symbolize how much he doesn't care, because fuck it, send him to Dorne lol idk
>>69372190
>Playing AGOT CK2 as Alester Sarwyck
>Mors just got elected as the Lord Commander of Night's Watch
Is he gonna come kick my ass?
These are your average Maisieposters.
>>69373461
>That quote
>I know how I'll do it! Let's burn everything I touch to the ground! Then people'll love me! YAY!!!
>>69372299
>>69373243
That's because he comes straight out of a final fantasy game
>>69373475
He talks about how he thought Youtube was a cesspit of hate. But then he got like a hundred messages with condolences for his loss. He send them to his grieving mother to read.
She laughed her ass off at the "Your father died because he made you. Also, you were fuckable as a baby" comment.
>>69373457
>>69373457
FUCK
I mean, how many shows don't use ANY action and are amazing? You know... with ... dialogue?
>>69373536
Not being able to distinguish different faces is a symptom of autism.
>>69373461
>the way Viserys said they smiled for my father
POTTERY
ebin ironic twist
I don't even care that they butchered the story as long as they do the Cleganebowl
>>69373504
>Unfortunate Genetics: The Picture
>>69373403
>>69373151
fuck off /pol/
go defend mediocrity elsewhere
>>69373550
>He
Just make a trip Preston.
>>69373534
My favorite thing about it is that the kingdom would be filled with FAT MEN.
Gorge sure loves promoting fatman pride.
>>69373573
more like
>terrible shirts: the picture
>>69373563
all men must hype
>>69373587
Well, seeing how being fat during the medieval ages was a sign of wealth and well-being, it does make sense
>>69373587
Kek I thought that was a bit funny. But in a medieval setting fat is kind of synonymous for healthy/prosperous.
>>69373582
Eh, imagine being Preston, b-balling and youtubing like a boss.
But then again, my father would be dead, so I'd rather not.
>>69373534
she keeps her dragons chained to prevent exactly that
>>69373563
Is there any way they could fuck up the cleganebowl?
POST YOUR BEST /got/ ME ME PLEASE
>>69373608
>>69373622
Yeah, I know that. But it still brought a smile to my face, especially coming from Dany.
>>69373628
He'll die eventually tho
What's the importance of Weirwood Thrones in the series?
There's one in Bloodraven's cavern, there's one in the Eyrie where the Arryns sit, and there's one in the Brotherhood's cave in the Riverlands where Beric is sitting when he's introduced
Also, does the presence of weirwoods give characters important dreams? I'm sure Jon, Jaime and Theon have all had important dreams when they slept near weirwoods
>>69373643
>Is there any way they could fuck up the tower of joy?
>Is there any way they could fuck up Euron?
>>69373491
Reminder:
Jaime doesn't know why Cersei was imprisoned, doesn't know she cucked him, etc
>>69373648
She probably has a bbm fetish
>>69373600
>DANY ISN'T FAT TAKE THAT BACK
LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL
>DABID DABID
I'm fucking dead.
>>69373646
>My salt wife's pregnant too
It's the little things
>>69373600
>implying Stannis is dead
I don't know why I laughed at this.
>>69373432
wot????
>>69372847
Or Bloodraven is "no longer there" and it's the Children of the Forest hivemind speaking through him.
>>69373716
Because Stannisfags hit new low of pathetic hilarity with every passing day.
>>69373000
Man, Kit Harrington used to be fat as fuck
>>69373403
I'm not going to explain myself to a fucking idiot.
Now go away.
Reminder House Lannister only won the WotFK because the Greyjoys are chronically retarded.
>>69373248
Reed pretended to be dead.
>>69373738
DIDN'T DIE ON SCREEN
NO BODY SHOWN
AMBIGUOUS DIALOG
ONE TRUE KING
STANNIS THE MANNIS
>>69373665
fr? I legit forgot
>>69373557
What are you even trying to say?
>>69373729
Preston seriously just use a tripcode faam
>>69373716
When ARE we going to find out if he's dead or not? I thought they would reveal it in episode 1 this season but they are dragging out the mystery
>>69373738
DIDN'T DIE IN THE BOOKS AND THAT'S WHAT MATTERS
>>69373656
What do we say to the God of Death?
Not today.
>>69373757
So you're rooting for a crazy sociopath who sacrificed his entire family to the literal devil. Good to know stannisfags are insane.
>>69373768
>mystery
Just fuck off. I can only laugh so hard.
>>69373750
Not even GJ, it's more about Balon being a salty retard.
>>69373750
clinically* is the word you're looking for
>>69373557
Pleb if you truly believe everything revolves around action.
>>69373768He's going to come back as a white walker and purge the north of all heretics, screencap this
>>69373677
Didn't work for Book!Jorah. :(
>>69373785
>to the literal devil
The lord of light protects us against what lurks in the shadows.
>>69373432
we have?
>>69373808
She likes them smooth, not gorilla-tier.
>>69373800
Chronically in the sense that Balon chooses to do the stupidest thing possible anytime a decision comes up.
>>69373757
>Ambiguous dialoge
>"Who killed him"
Someone obviously told them Stannis died, he was known for fleeing, they wouldnt assume he was dead.
>>69373808
She doesn't like slave-trading cucks
What happened to her? Will she become relevant in the books?
>>69373657
I've asked this question a few times but no answers...
someone just guess for me? I'm interested in the properties and magic behind weirwoods is all
>>69373151
she defecated without much dignity
fuck george r. r. martin
>>69373846
She has da kinofdanorf in her belly
>>69373812
Are you talking about the demons he births from his whores' cunts? Seriously, R'hllor is literally the devil.
>>69373759
Don't feel bad, D&D did too. Jaime comes home, his sister is bald, apparently standing trial, and he didn't ask what the hell happened.
She openly confessed to fucking Lancel and everyone knows. Even Kevan didn't say anything to her.
But thank god we got those important scnes with Sam and his wife's father's son.
>>69373757
>AMBIGUOUS DIALOG
Autism confirmed.
>>69373846
She was just a plot device.
>GURM
>wrapping up loose ends
>>69373802
>Glowing like sunset, a red sword was raised in the hand of a blue-eyed king who cast no shadow.
Stannis is def getting animated as a wight.
>>69373760
I left out a sentence. Basically, they probably want Jaime to push for violence because they think the audience will like that more. Jaime's part in the books is all diplomacy and talking and they think it wouldn't translate well onto the show. Which is bullshit
>>69373874
Reminder that gurm literally forgot about the Mountain Clans.
>>69373657
Does anyone sit on/sleep by the weirwood thrones in the Brotherhood's cave? I swear Arya does.
>>69373856
I gotchu bro. Lemme get my other keyboard
>>69373801
I was trying to say the opposite:
>>69373896
>>69373859
Just because they are ugly it doesn't mean they are evil
>>69373907
It's little things like this that make me want to reread the series. I can't rely on Preston for this stuff forever, I'd love to find some excerpts myself and really dig into them.
>>69373927
Who? You mean THE LITERAL FUCKING DEMONS??? The only one of which we've seen committed fratricide??
>>69373846
>What happened to her?
Nothing yet.
>Will she become relevant in the books?
Nah. Hanged by Stoneheart most likely.
>>69373905
Sh-shut up... It's m-more realistic that not everything will be r-r-resolved.
(farts)
>>69373927
>blood magic
>murder
>not evil
Don't forget your fedora and your katana
>>69372190
That's not even a fair comparison. F Scott is writing about man lust and the other guy is writing about dysentery.
I can't tell how good F Scott is until he writes about having dysentery out in the autumn woods.
>>69373943
It was perfectly justified to kill him.
>>69373943
>killed a homosexual devil
>somehow that's evil
Mate.
>>69373916
>>69373907
>>69373856
tl;dr They're old north magic and all connected. They sorta work with memory, the trees remember events that occurred near them(maybe only when blood is involved, it's unclear). I'm pretty sure you can influence the past from inside them, as we saw when Ned sorta heard Bran.
Think of them like an internet where the password is human sacrifice or something like that. You can access all this knowledge but only if you, like, eat someone or kill someone.
When people have portentious dreams near them, that's just the weirwood trying to reach out, but they aren't wargs, so that's the best it can do.
Not sure how sentient they are, pr exactly how the Children tie in, but they could be a hivemind.
>>69372334(farts)
>>69373996
Edgy, I like it.
>>69373905
He didn't though. They just fucked off once Tyrion was no longer in power. He forgot about some Tyroshi mercenaries who deserted Tywin to join Robb.
>>69373967
>hanged by Stoneheart
Why?
Maybe she does become relevant: maybe has Robb's baby. Who knows? She might be the killed off character who still had a role to play.
>>69373994
Why? Because he was gay?
>>69373996
Exactly. Stannisfags are just poorly veiled christniggers. They see the jews' demonic god in R'hllor and get a hardon for their fucking hyperautist king that they wish like fuck they could be in the shoes of.
>I can't wait for god to ask me to sacrifice my children! It'll be just like in the bible! EXCEPT I'LL FUCKING DO IT NOT LIKE THAT PUSSY ABRAHAM
KYSs edgelord christkikes.
>>69372929
>three shieldman behind them
>none of them use their shields
>the shields just act as couterweight
>one of them actually drops his shield in last seconds of his life
fuck, they're useless. there's being bad and then theres parrying atacks with your sword while your shield does nothing in the off hand.
>>69374012
But is there any wirewood all the way south in Toj?
>>69373918
apologies my friend, im hoping that the scene with the blackfish wont be a carcrash.
>>69374037
>Why? Because he was gay?
Don't be such a fucking nigger faggot cocksucker.
He was a pretender. Does that make kinslaying okay? No. But don't be a fucking fag about it.
So we all know Ian McShaness character is going to revive Stannis
R-right?
>>69374037
>Why? Because he was gay
Nope, because he was a traitor. They could easily have won the war if Renly didn't try to usurp it from the true heir (Stannis)
>>69373994
*it was justified if Stannis wanted to win
Stannis could have honourably gone to battle and lost, and it would have been a tragic brother pitted against brother battle.
Stannis or Renly could have met up with the other to bend the knee honourably, and fought their brother's war along side them as heir.
People keep saying Renly should have bent the knee to Stannis between their parlay and the morning, but why not suggest that Stannis bend the knee to Renly? Renly had more of the realm on his side and had Catelyn with a possible Stark alliance on his side as well. Stannis did not have the numbers but the fact is, he didn't want the Lannisters ousted as his priority. He had 'being the king' as his priority. So he had his brother, who could have won the war, killed for it.
>>69373994
>He thinks that killing is ever justified in GRRM's works
You are going to be disappointed.
>>69374036
>hanged by Stoneheart
>why
Because shes literally siding for the Lannisters right now.
>>69374065
How can he revive Stannis if Stannis isn't dead?
>>69374051
Literally who knows. It might not be just the woods, maybe they see through the eyes of anyone from the north, maybe Reed, a warg, ate the weird cannibal shit Bran did and now they see through him.
That shit is show only, i can only guess
>>69374074
But Robert did the exact same thing and Renly would have made a far better King than Stannis "literally no one wants him as king" Baratheon.
>>69373983
>>69373846
>What happened to her?
her (grand? i can't remember)mother already made good with the lannisters and she's getting an abortion
plotline ended
>>69374083
That's all fine and all, but the fact of the matter remains that Renly had no -legitimate- claim to the throne. Stannis did.
>>69374083
>but Stannis is older
Stannisfags don't get that age doesn't mean shit when neither Renyl nor Stannis can prove Joffrey's illegal without conquering the realm and setting their opinion as law.
Just don't bother arguing with them.
>>69372190
>le self-deprecating meme
XP I love it
>>69374059
Same, same
>>69374108
Robert had a claim, in that the true rulers fucking sucked and he was the next closest targ blooded person.
>>69374036
>Why?
>Hitching a ride with the Lannisters
>Protected by their guards
>Her cunt mother got rewarded by the Lannisters
>Ultimately the person who led Robb to his doom
Not saying it's fair. But Stoneheart isn't known for fairness or mercy.
>>69374108
Robert rebeled because Rhaegar took his waifu and Aerys called for his head, even though he did nothing wrong
Technically Jon arryn was the one who rebeled
Renly rebelled because "wew lad noone wants you eh bruv"
>>69374074
>>69374091
Her mother is, not her. She is vocally against it.
>>69374051
i have a feeling the door of the tower or some part of it was if remembering correctly
>>69374161
Yeah dude, subtlety and nuance matter so much to a zombie murderess
>>69374136
>>69374108
Robert won the throne by conquest. In our modern age we kind of forget that Conquest is entirely legitimate.
Robert's Rebellion won the war, but basically any one of them could have been King at that point. I.e. Ned Stark.
>>69373503
FUARK I wish I was more autistic so that I could enjoy CK2.
>>69374148
>>69374122
-Legitimate- only for Stannis, Ned and Jon Arryn. The rest of the realm didn't think so, and saw both Stannis and Renly as sly uncles that want to usurp the throne from a weak nephew.
Why does Jamie not care that Cersei slept with Lancel in the show? He's literally defending her from the faith when they are essentially punishing her for cucking him with their own cousin.
so uhhh... are white walkers the good guys? I mean, so far they have done nothing wrong, and actually seem cool and badass.
>>69374188
Yeah, BUT, once the Targs were all out, Bobby B actually was the next closest heir. It did matter a bit, if only for the sake of appearances.
>>69374156
>Bobby B
>Not Renly
So close
If Jeyne / Robb's child was ever gonna be relevant in the endgame they wouldn't have killed off Talisa unceremoniously since we're apparently getting the same ending as the books.
>>69374206
>DUDE THEY'RE JUST MISUNDERSTOOD LMAO
>MAKE LOVE NOT WAR ;^)))))))))
t. GRRM
>>69374188
well rumor had it that the founder of the house baratheon was the bastard brother of aegon the conqueror so he had a slightly better claim
>>69374161
I think Cat is beyond caring or discriminating. Some of the Freys she strung up weren't in on the red wedding either and Pod was just a kid. But they are with the enemy, so they are guilty by association. Maybe she'll give Jeyne a chance to prove her loyalty like she did with Brienne, but I doubt it.
>>69374187
Fair enough, she did try to kill Brienne for less
>>69374204
I don't think he knows, D&D forgot about that
>>69374122
Renly literally had the support of 90% of the Stormlords. He didn't 'steal' them, they rallied behind him for a reason. They thought he would be a good king so they chose him over Stannis, brooding on Dragonstone.
In a world of feudalism where wars were rising, and vicious boys like Joffrey become king just because their father might have been king, or unlikable rigid men like Stannis try to be king because their brother was king, it's refreshing to see a King that's actually loved and chosen by his vassals like Renly and Robb were. It's the closest thing Westeros has to a voice for the people at this time.
Was Renly perfect? Far, far from it. He might have been a figurehead or a puppet, or an even worse spender than Robert. The point is, two realms- and nearly three CHOSE him to lead them. Nobody but Davos chose Stannis.
>>69374206
(You)
>>69374220
what does t. stand for? I don't understand this meme
>>69374196
This.
He didn't even have any evidence.
He should have bent the knee to joffery and let westeros live in peace
>>69374221
"Robert also had the best claim to the throne as a result of being related to the Targaryens through his paternal grandmother, Rhaelle Targaryen."
>>69374206
maybe
just maybe
they really a bunch of evil monsters who want to raise an army of undead and take over the world
>hurr durr Palpatine wanted to take over the galaxy to protect from an even greater evil durrrrr
I fucking hate it
>>69374235
Renly still should have bent the knee to his older brother.
>>69374243
Go to /int/.
>>69374243
t.” is shorthand for terveisin, which is Finnish for “with regards”
>>69374235
And to Stannis, they were wrong to do that. Fundamentally wrong.
He's a little bit small minded desu
>>69372704
people hate on him because he's handsome and on tv, playing a brooding mysterious character. that's exactly the kind of image autists who actually get mad about this sort of shit wish they could pull of, and they're buttmad it's not them.
>>69374235
>they rallied behind him for a reason
>They thought he would be a good king
They obviously had a reason but it sure as fuck wasn't because they thought he'd be a good king.
Btw guys in the show the baratheon line died out
Who is in charge of storm's end?
>mfw /got/ is now full of jon enthusiasts
Tangible sign that the show has gone to shit
>>69374233
>try to kill Brienne for less
>Royal decree that she is searching for the kingslayer Sansa Stark to bring her to the crown
>Lannister gold
>A sword made out of Ice, adorned with golden lions
>Tyrion's squire and a Tyrell knight at her service
>Mumbling Jaime's name while unconscious
>"B-but he's a changed man m'lady!"
>Meanwhile Stoneheart knows about how he threatened to kill her nephew as soon as he is born, never mind that he tried to kill hr kid and still needs to answer for that anyway
>She still gives Brienne a chance to prove her loyalty
I'd say her treatment of Brienne was uncharacteristically charitable. I'd assume she switched sides too.
>>69374233
>I don't think he knows, D&D forgot about that
How would he not know? She was paraded through the streets of King's Landing directly because of it.
>>69374324
a better King than Stannis or Joffrey. Why else would they have supported him and not his brother or nephew?
>>69374235
Dog, we get it. People liked him. Nobody even here hates Renly.
That doesn't mean he had good reason to continue to rebel and shed blood when there was an alternative. Nobody 'chose' Stannis because the world doesn't know that Joffrey is a bastard. If Renly was simply a good little brother and helped Stannis become King he could have been Hand or some shit and been just as effective.
>>69374343
Tommen is a fucking beratheon
>>69374355
Because fuck show jaime, character development is dumb, bad pussy for life
For real there is no explanation.
