Talons of Weng-Chiang Edition
Is it a classic? Is the rat rubbish? Is Li H'sen Chang Gareth's favorite character?
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>>69308586
Good for you.
>>69308622
I dunno, I thought you were considered a (young) adult when you hit 18 and a teenager is 15-18.
>>69308632
only on reddit. it's a bit controversial here. on facepunch im an average user. i contribute quite frequently to an open source game, they like me there at least
Where's the best place to get Doctor Who toys?
>>69308747
>they like me there at least
I doubt that very much.
>>69308844
In a fucking shop.
>>69308868
supertux f_am
check it out
its an open-source mario clone with a level editor
im even in the credits
thats my greatest achievement in life so far (besides martha's crooked teeth), which is really sad considering how obscure it is
>>69308917
>>69308817
He literally posted once. Stop being an insecure cunt. You're probably 30+ so if you're a struggling loser love-wise you deserve to be mocked here
>>69308844
Probably off Amazon/ebay, the MSRPs seem a bit steep to me. There are probably specialty sites too.
>“Lord up in of this time bitch” is a rather delightful /tv/ meme that spawned when Wilding, a tripcode user, attempted to make a “Lord of time up in this bitch” macro, using the shot of 11 shrugging in Rosanna Calvierri’s throne.
>However, he failed to some extent. Due to the column layout, the text could easily be read from left to right, thus producing the phrase “lord up in of this time bitch”, which is nonsense but seems to almost make sense in a timey-wimey sort of way.
>As a result, the phrase tends to show up in nearly every /tv/ Doctor Who thread in both text and revamped image-macro form. This is an example of the latter, based on the original layout but using a different frame from a different episode.
>>69308673
So, I need a pastebin or an info dump or something.
I've watched Who ever since Eccleston, but I've never been a part of the fandom (I've just plain and simply never stumbled onto a forum for it or anything). What's the general opinions on things? How are the doctors/series rated? What's the deal with Moffat?
>>69309257
piss poor bait mate
try harder
>>69309257
Ten is the best Doctor, and Capaldi is too old. Series 2, 7 and 9 are shit. Moffat is Satan and he must go. That's a quick summary.
>>69309257
Eccleston = GOAT
10 a Shit
S2 a Shit
Capaldi = GOAT
NuWho a Shit
Doctor Who a Shit
Moffat Out
Moffat Stay Please
Doctor Who Is Dead
>>69309257
Generally Tennant is the favorite, mostly because of sex appeal/shipping, but all the Docs are fairly well liked. Moffat has been writing since the start, showrunning since 2010, and a certain segment of people have hated him since... about 2010, for various reasons.
>>69309257
I forgot that despite being obviously piss poor bait at least one retard would fall for it
>>69309257
this is melanon
>>69309320
>>69309465
Please point out what is bait about that post apart from "asks for a response".
>>69309257
>What's the general opinions on things? How are the doctors/series rated? What's the deal with Moffat?
you don't want to know. Fandom's taste is absolutely horrible. Just watch stuff on your own, it's what I wish I had done.
>>69308673
GOAT story. Was my favourite once, possibly still is.
>>69309515
it's obviously total shite specifically designed to get people to waste their time answering it
Nobody on Earth would post this seriously.
"Hello, I;m a stranger and new to fandom but can you tell me all about the last 11 years of Doctor Who, please, I can't be bothered googling anything?"
>>69309506
Fuck off obsesed-with-melanon-anon.
>>69309658
but that IS him
>>69309620
Wanting to conform in a community by quickly absorbing the popular opinions is a perfectly credible motivation. You can't really work out a lot of those things by Googling especially when every place you go will have a different answer.
>>69309755
fuck off melanon! You are not as clever as you think.
>>69309611
>tfw I liked every episode when I first watched NuWho
>now I hate everything
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qcrTT7Y.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>69309257
/who/ is full of hardcore Moffatfags and RTD haters. I can understand the Moffags part because presumably anyone who hates Moffat isn't still hanging around the fandom after 6 years, but I don't know why people are so down on RTD. I blame Americans who got into the show with series 5.
>>69309884
people who really hate moffat show up during on-season
>>69310121
And people thought Matt Smith looked like shit and about to kill himself.
>>69309884
>Fear Her at the bottom of the list
This meme needs to die. Yes it's bad, but anyone who thinks Fear Her is anywhere near as unwatchable as The Twin Dilemma or Time and the Rani needs to fuck offerino. The worst of Classic Who is objectively way worse than the worst of NuWho.
>>69310209
>>69309884
I don't really understand RTD hate either, obviously everyone's got their preference but without him Who would just have limped on a few more years in books and audios before final death. Surely that outweighs a few Slitheen and overwrought Tennant scenes?
>>69310264
Hello again, Cats.
>>69310276
I don't even hate RTD. I hate his fucking fanbase who hates Moffat too where it's fucking obvious he's much better than RTD.
Muh Moffat is a sexist
Muh Moffat is a homophobe
Muh Moffat is transpose
Muh Moffat's female characters are all the same
Jesus fucking Christ. I'm just sick of it
>>69310121
I want someone to post this picture on Twitter on #DWSR and anything RTD/Tennant fags related with the following caption:
DON'T YOU THINK HE LOOKS TIRED?
>>69310264
Is that supposed to be a picture of melanon? Where is it from?
>>69310357
Well the sexist/homophobe thing is ridiculous - if anything, he tries too hard to be inclusive and it comes out really forced and awkward - but he does seem to like a certain female-villain archetype with Kovarian, Karabraxos etc.
>>69310440
No idea, I thought it was a Rich Evans meme from outer /tv/.
>>69310415
SOMEONE DO IT
>>69310492
Yes but they don't care. Same with muh Osgood is an insult to Tumblr.
I agree with the female villains but just look at Missy, she's completely different from these.
>>69310276
I think everyone here likes S1.
S2-4 though can get pretty decisive.
>>69310791
Divisive, you mean. Decisive would be the opposite.
>>69311065
oh yeah. oops.
>>69309257
the wiki is all you need senpai
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/GOAT
>>69311490
wrong page senpai
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Official_power_rankings
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Tuggo
>dat trigger warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHDY06s-x-4
>>69309884
RTD?
>>69312329
Russel T. Davies, the showrunner for the 9th and 10th Doctors.
>>69312329
Rub That Dick
What if Jack is returning?
>mfw based 12, Bill and Jack in the TARDIS
>>69312834
>Based 12
lol...
>Based Bill
lol...
>Based Jack
You're right there
>>69312888
Fuck off you RTD faggot. You're the worst.
>>69312291
She is literally The Guardian personified
Me again >>69309257
>>69309336
>>69309459
>>69309884
Thanks, these look like exactly what I needed to start.
>>69309392
Is this trolling? Or do I just disagree with the fan opinions? I've rewatched everything from Rose to Donna a few times. Eccleston's stuff sometimes came off to me as needlessly gritty sci-fi, but Tennat's stuff was usually solid. My memeory of Smiff is lacking, but I just remember getting lost in the plot. Capaldri has been solid so far (on average).
>>69309611
>>69309864
Do tell?
>>69313396
Come to think of it. I think my biggest problem with Who so far is that it often builds up to shit but hasn't delivered since Rose came back with Donna. Where's the doctor becoming a vengeful god? Where's the doctor and River doing shit?
Oh, and one big thing I want to get off my chest, was I the only one that thought this? In the episode where Clara was throwing the TARDIS keys into lava. I was fully expecting the Doctor to turn around, click his fingers, open the door and fucking leave her there and let the River adventures begin. I was so fucking pissed when that didn't happen.
>>69314113
You missed the point of the scene imo
>>69314113
12 is shit mainly for this reason. He was totally cucked by Clara. His character is paradoxical and inconsistent.
>>69312834
Jack improves any TARDIS team.
>>69314113
>wanting the Doctor to leave Clara to die a horrible lava death
Yeah, I think you were the only one. Don't get me wrong, I think he forgave her a little too easily but killing her would have just been fucked up.
>>69314113
>and let the River adventures begin
https://twitter.com/philfordesq/status/729802962550329344
Phil Phord (into the dalek writer) has just conphirmed he's writing for series 10 on Twitter
>>69314303
The Doctor already knew what she was going to do and let her play out her little fantasy power trip in order to get it out of her system. His caring for her was unconditional, and making her realise what she had become and what she was willing to do would hopefully be a powerful enough lesson for him to not need to give her any more aggro
>>69314229
>You missed the point of the scene imo
I get the point of the scene - it was to show how much of a shit Clara gives.
>>69314303
>Yeah, I think you were the only one. Don't get me wrong, I think he forgave her a little too easily but killing her would have just been fucked up.
But she totally fucking deserved it. If it wasn't a drug-induced dream sequence, Clara would've completely fucking intentionally, ended The Doctor right there. Killing countless, just because she wants her boyfriend back. That's pathetic.
>>69314283
le cuck meme
>>69314113
>Where's the doctor becoming a vengeful god?
I mean that's not going to happen because it's fucking silly. Every time the possibility has been raised, it has been flatly rejected, for very obvious reasons.
>Where's the doctor and River doing shit?
River being the actual companion for a run of episodes would mean her upgrading from semi-regular character to full lead. The problem with this is that the show requires new people to be the companion, in order to keep artificially generating public interest. River has always been a character whose adventures are mostly off-screen for this reason, although Capaldi's last Christmas special goes some way towards filling the hole this creates and basically resolves her story.
>I was fully expecting the Doctor to turn around, click his fingers, open the door and fucking leave her there and let the River adventures begin. I was so fucking pissed when that didn't happen.
Stop being such a muppet. "Lol we're going to build up Clala all season and then get rid of her in the first 10 minutes of the finale", do you have any concept of how television works?
>>69314411
said no such things
>>69314437
>If it wasn't a drug-induced dream sequence, Clara would've completely fucking intentionally, ended The Doctor right there. Killing countless, just because she wants her boyfriend back. That's pathetic.
Doesn't matter though. The Doctor wouldn't have left his worst enemy behind to die if he could just drop them back on their home planet and have them be no further threat. It's not in his character.
>>69314520
READ THE PHUCKING TWEET.
That is a CLEAR HINT if not a CONFIRMATION that Phil is returning for Series 10.
ARE YOU BLIND ???
>>69314521
>It's not in his character.
Shit, you've got me.
>>69314566
you're drunk mate
>>69314743
How phucking dare you!!! Phuck off and die.
>>69314437
>Killing countless
Careful, when you prioritise the survival of the Doctor because of the hypothetical people he has yet to save, you become morally equivalent to the Teselecta from Let's Kill Hitler. The Doctor himself would never agree, having wilfully sacrificed himself on various occasions.
Anyway. The Doctor felt responsible for what he had turned Clara into. The taste for his level of manipulative power that he had been recklessly encouraging in her for all of that series, combined with her controlling tendencies, was a recipe for disaster when faced with the meaningless sudden death of a loved one.
Also not only had she effectively been his friend for over 900 years at this point, accompanying him at a crucial stage in his life, but he was very sentimentally attached to her and this was pushed further in series 9. A different Doctor might very easily have fucked her off at that point, but 12 is an extreme sort of person.
You betrayed me. You betrayed my trust, you betrayed our friendship, you betrayed everything that I've ever stood for. YOU LET ME DOWN!
>>69315069
I KNOW. I KNOW I'VE LET YOU DOWN. I'VE BEEN A FOOL TO MYSELF.
>Do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?
Is there a more GOAT ine?
JUST
>>69316695
KILL ME
>>69316694
It was an okay ine.
JUST FUCK MY TIMELINE UP MOFFAM
>May 9th
>Still no S9 OST News
Is /Who/ looking forward to the highly anticipated Sleep No More sequel?
>>69319785
>implying it will ever happen after how poorly SNM was received
>>69319813
Personally I could rewatch SNM over In the Forest of the Night/Kill the Moon. SNM isn't as terrible as some make out it was.
>>69319953
I enjoyed it on first viewing but it got worse for me the more I thought about it imo,
Gattiss should have been erased instead of Gareth.
>>69320080
Go to bed Gargar.
Is Gatiss the worst regular writer on Who
>>69321035
Currently yes.
What's the closest anime equivalent of Doctor Who?
Wake up /who/.
>>69321870
Dunno, I'm only really familiar with the most popular ones (DBZ, Death Note, Fullmetal, One Punch Man etc). There's probably something out there, though, enough of them have time travel and/or sassy British protagonists.
>>69321870
I don't really watch anime, but the closest thing I can think of is Gantz, which is pretty fucking far from Doctor Who. You got "monster of the week" kind of alien invasions and that's pretty much where the similarities end. It's full of over the top gore, sex, giant tits and a big black ball that makes puns and sends a bunch of confused teenagers out to get killed by aliens.
>>69321035
>>69321070
Worse than Steve Thompson?
>>69324792
Literally the "literally who?" of Who. Plus he didn't even write for series 9.
>>69321870
Time travel animu:
Steins;Gate: Faction Paradox tier time war never and there are only like five time lines for the show which is kinda annoying. It's also a bit kiddy and full of memes (think Tenth Doctor tier)
Erased. It's kinda a bit like Moffat's story in the Decalogs (Consequences)
Haven't bothered watching any other time travel animes and there aren't that many of them.
There are lots of good scifi books though:
Hyperion features time travel as a background: think Miles Lawrence.
Firefall by Watts: I would best describe this book as Evangelion (Anime) + Interference (Lawrence Miles) + Vampire Science (Kate Orman and Blum)
Short stories:
The Nine Billion Names of God - "the stars are all going out" aesthetics
Super-Toys Last All Summer Long - Forest of the Dead/Silence in the Library
I can't help but wonder if some of the Who lore is based on a bit of Vance:
>"I am a magician indeed, with knowledge of every spell yet devised, the sleight of runes, incantations, designs, exorcisms, talismans. I am Master Mathematician, the first since Phandaal, yet I can do nothing to your brain without destroying your intelligence, your personality, your soul—for I am no god. A god may will things to existence; I must rely on magic, the spells which vibrate and twist space."
>He learned the secret of renewed youth, many spells of the ancients, and a strange abstract lore that Pandelume termed "Mathematics."
>/who/ is dead
>>69326648
Nah.
>>69326851
Better hope there aren't any mummies.
>>69308673
I found it a bit of a slog desu.
>it's a six-parter
I can see why Jago and Litefoot got a spinoff though, even if they don't even meet until Part 5.
>>69326648
>tfw
>>69321870
no weebshit please
>>69328408
fuck off cats
>>69328408
yes weebshit
>>69309884
>>69309257
The rankings look pretty accurate to me. Of course I could nit-pick, but it's overall a good representation.
>>69309884
>>69329745
I agree it's pretty good, though I think Revelation of the Daleks, Warriors' Gate and The Girl Who Waited should definitely be in the left-hand column, and S9 got it far too easy.
Fairly balanced towards the RTD era, too. I wasn't expecting the S3 finale to get that high, much as I enjoy it.
>>69312176
Kek.
>>69312176
good page. would a paragraph about moffat attempting to retcon tuggo as "I dont want to go" in the 50th ruin it?
>Clara's bf dies and she goes insane with grief, tries to force the Doctor to break the rules of time to bring her bf back by threatening to strand them both in a volcano
>"What a bitch! She deserves to die!"
>The Doctor's Clala dies and he goes insane with grief, threatens everyone, actually breaks the rules of time and brings her back
>no one criticizes him even though that was part of the point of the episode
>>69331364
And Clala actually faced her death and accepted it. All Danny did was forget to SPLINK
>>69331435
They should have aired Pertwee's SPLINK warning directly after Dark Water
Lalla still does audios? I thought she erased herself from Doctor Who. And I'm especially surprised that she's working with Tom. Seems odd.
>>69331726
Tom is dying.
>>69331770
Are you saying she's trying to get close to him again so that she can see the life fade from his eyes in-person?
>>69331364
>"B-but it's b-because he didn't force anyone, he did it by himself?!?!?"
>he tricked the General into opening the chamber by saying Clara had information about the hybrid
I blame it on RTD who made the Doctor always being right a thing. Even in Water Of Mars we are supposed to sympathize with him because he's trying to save some poor souls. Hell, people still blame Wilf for Ten's regeneration when he got stuck because he SAVED someone.
>>69331890
>Hell, people still blame Wilf for Ten's regeneration when he got stuck because he SAVED someone.
are you fucking kidding me
>>69331726
>Lalla still does audios? I thought she erased herself from Doctor Who.
Why? She's been working for Big Finish almost non-stop since 2002 between monthly range appearances, Gallifrey, Companion Chronicles, adaptations and now 4DAs.
>And I'm especially surprised that she's working with Tom. Seems odd.
I believe their parts are recorded separately, so that they never meet. You don't notice that by just listening to the stories though.
>>69331907
>Why?
I read a really bitter and stupid quote from her about Romana III. So I just assumed she was done with BF.
>I believe their parts are recorded separately, so that they never meet.
That's funny.
>>69331906
No. Please elaborate.
>>69331967
>I read a really bitter and stupid quote from her about Romana III. So I just assumed she was done with BF.
She's worked with the other Romana twice now. It sounds like the kind of quote that gets taken out of context and blown out of proportion.
>>69331967
What's the quote?
>>69332104
I'm glad. It did make her sound really bad.
>tfw so many audios you haven't listened to
>tfw no money
one day...
>tfw going to sleep while thinking about winning the BF competition and fantasising that it'll get your foot in the door and that you'll start writing full-cast audios and befriending other DW writers and sharing your ideas with them
its a comfy sort of feel
What are /who/ listening to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVMIk3xYaYo
>>69331890
>I blame it on RTD who made the Doctor always being right a thing.
That's not true though. He's openly criticized in The Famili of Blood for starting the whole mess and Joan basically calls him a coward for not wanting to turn back into John Smith. Ditto in Dalek for being too bloodthirsty. The whole point of the Impossible Planet two-parter is that he the Doctor has his limits.
>Even in Water Of Mars we are supposed to sympathize with him because he's trying to save some poor souls.
That's not the same as approving of his actions. Even he admits that he's gone too far at the end.
>>69308673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJWgp8FwoaA
Talons of Weng chang is the best doctor who story every according to this guy
>>69332010
meaning are there really ppl who blame wilf? that's idiotic
>>>69332267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm1wuKvrxAw
>>69331890
>>69332377
I like Water of Mars but the idea that we're meant to disapprove of the Doctor's actions in the end is pretty ridiculous. His arrogance and anger were bad, but his actions were moral. And even with Adelaide's suicide he still saved innocent lives.
Also it just occurred to me that if he was very set on keeping history intact, he could have still saved them. Just not taken them back to Earth. or not back to that time. So that everybody would still assume they died on Mars and history would continue as normal, but they get to live elsewhere. Not that that would have made a better episode, or that they would have been okay with that (although I'm sure Adelaide would have rather lived on some nice little planet than eat her gun)
>>69331890
I appreciate the Doctor being portrayed as fallible. That's definitely one thing Moffat is consistent about. I guess he's a sacred cow for some so it gets lost on them but seeing how easy it would be for him to start abusing the kind of power he has access to makes his heroic actions more meaningful to me.
>>69332562
Never Doctor morals made me angry more than here in pic related.
It's even worse than Kill the Moon.
>>69332377
in the case of family of blood though there's that whole speech with the kid stroking his ego and it basically sums his move of bringing the family there in the first place as 'he was being kind' and takes the loss of john smith as another opportunity to lay on the angst for the doctor which dilutes joan's message
What's the worst Patrick Troughton serial?
>>69332614
Never listened to it, what happens?
>>69332488
Maybe it's just my interpretation, but I think the Doctor's reasons in The Waters of Mars were almost entirely egoistical.
He's just being told that he's destined to die soon, so he thinks that if he can change history for those people he can change it for himself, and that's why he gets so drunk on his own power. He even says something to the effect of "you don't get a fourth knock" when the water zombies are beating on the door, and the Ood that first predicted his death appears to bring him down to size at the end. If he were really doing it for the crewmembers, he wouldn't have traumatized them as much as he did.
>>69332694
>in the case of family of blood though there's that whole speech with the kid stroking his ego and it basically sums his move of bringing the family there in the first place as 'he was being kind' and takes the loss of john smith as another opportunity to lay on the angst for the doctor which dilutes joan's message
I agree that "he was being kind" is there to justify the Doctor at least in part. But I never saw the scene were he punishes the family as positive. It's not really negative, either. It's more like the kind of awe inspired by a natural phenomenon like a tornado or a volcano, regardless of it being right or wrong.
I really, REALLY loved doctor the new doctor who before it got really popular, but I felt like the series went to shit with Matt Smith, especially the writing. Are the new seasons with Peter Capaldi any good?
>>69332958
>Never listened to it, what happens?
7 billions female time-space worm-whales burrow into Sahara and insist that Earth is their usual birthing planet. But one birth 'cause time blast, 7 billions will kill everything on earth.
They don't listen to noone.
Millittary and villain's megacorp goes UNIT on their ass and captures one for dissecting so they can produce means to fight 'em.
Laans finds out that evil males killed their sister and deside to kill all humans as revenge.
David Warner's villain head of megacorp insist on poisoning them all before they wipe out humanity. Granted, they're here 'cause of his haywire time experiments.
But Doctor persuades newly-elected president so she intersepts villain's ship with poison. 'cause of muh genoside and humans always fighting and shit.
Showing that they won't be poisoned, Doc somehow convinses them that only the villain behind it all and they can fuck off already to their real birthing planet.
For all the shit End of Time did, it did a really good job of making you think 'oh maybe everything will turn out alright after all' before crushing all of those hopes will wilf's knocks
props to both RTD and marigold for that part
>>69333134
I would say yes but given that you really, really liked tennant I'm inclined to believe that the direction the show's taken with Capaldi is not what you're wanting
>>69332958
>>69333148
And somehow it's "right thing to do" for the president of Earth to endanger the population 'cause of "muh morals"
>>69333188
What do you mean by that? It's not that I liked Tennant necessarily, or even hated Matt Smith, it's just that I felt the writing became generally awful with his introduction. Amy was annoying as fuck, River was necessary, and in general most of the plots were awful and half-baked.
>>69333290
I need to know why you thought they were awful before I can really make a call on it. The tone and execution of the show did change significantly with capaldi, but it might still not be what you want
>>69333290
Smith is awful. I like Capaldi more.
>>69333290
>in general most of the plots were awful and half-baked.
>Muh he will knock for time and psychic powers for everyone
>>69333403
I can't really put my finger on it considering I last watched them years ago at this point. I don't want to make myself look like anymore of a jackass to someone who knows what they're talking about.
I can't really describe it without using buzzwords. I just felt like the Matt Smith episodes were too meme-laden, almost like they were written for Tumblr or something. That retarded episode where they fought like a bajillion of those creatures from Blink. "you guys like Blink, right? Well what if we just made it bigger?!" Or that arc where Amy was abandoned and became a """badasss""" warrior chick with shitty age make-up. I also remember some terrible episode with Nazis in it. Or "The Doctor's Wife" which appeared to be utter fan service. They all just seemed like they were trying too hard while being borderline nonsensical.
I don't think "Tone" plays into my complaints. Do you think the quality of the writing has gone up since then? Are the stories actually interesting and well done now?
>>69333628
Writing is much less meme-laden in the capaldi era
>>69333628
Have you tried rewatching it? Because hating Smith's era for fanservice is a bit weird considering how much fanservice was in Tennant's.
>>69334053
If it was supposed to be fan service, it didn't seem so virulent to me.
>>69326110
As a mathematician, that post aroused me.
>>69331890
>hybrid
Speaking of this thing, it's gonna be River, right?
>>69334485
You think it's ongoing? I doubt it'll ever be mentioned again. It S9's thing, surely.
QT.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3582036/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-Sheridan-Smith-pulls-BAFTA-snub.html
Doctor Who fans WILL defend this.
>>69337091
Doctor Who fans WON'T care about this.
>>69313396
Fuck off melanon.
>>69333134
Some /who/ rankings earlier on this thread here >>69309884 and here: http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Official_power_rankings
(If that's any help).
>>69337091
I want to see her massive tits already
>>69338321
Shitty meme mate
Melanon's first fake time waster BTFO and like a true psychopath he's made more fakes hoping people will see a fake pattern of newbs and fall for it.
>>69334133
Literally everyone coming back in S4 finale and doing absolutely nothing to advance the plot seemed pretty virulent to me.
>>69334915
>>69334485
I think it is ongoing, yes.
Basically, the Doctor believed Ashildr/Me was the hybrid. However, Ashildr/Me proposed that the hybrid was in fact the Doctor and Clara together, which the Doctor accepted. But was Ashildr/Me correct?
They could still come back to it at some point.
>>69338672
It isn't.
>>69338921
Moffat wasn't expecting to write any more after Christmas.
![tumblr_naslhhTbsC1qjycg5o3_500[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/85UqeTH.gif "tumblr_naslhhTbsC1qjycg5o3_500[1].gif")
>>69338444
WTF? The anon was saying that he/she didn't rank Matt Smith's seasons very highly.
And it would seem /who/ partly agrees, because series 6 and 7 are in the bottom 3 ranked.
>>69308673
The Giant Rat is a real shame.
If they had wet it; covered it in grease and shit, and filmed it on 35mm at Ealing, so they could tightly edit the footage, it would have been a really good effect for the era/budget.
>>69338672
It's basically been solved in Hell Bent, but I wouldn't put it past Moffat to come back to it in the future anyway.
Remember how he brought back the cracks in time from S5 and the room from The God Complex in The Time of the Doctor, even though the former plot had been already resolved and the latter didn't need resolving?
>>69340073
>solved
Aka skirted around and ultimately inconsequential
>>69333290
>River was necessary
Then you probably won't like 12, she was in one Christmas special and that was it. Also a friendly warning, the /who/ hivemind hates River so be prepared to defend yourself from the waves of "you are bait" posts.
>>69340729
>the /who/ hivemind
Doesn't exist
>>69340729
Weak bait melanon
>>69340729
frim the context of the post anon obviously mistyped and meant she was unnecessary m8
>>69340743
/who/ has a very particular set of likes and dislikes that pretty much counter tumblr. Saying anything contrary is met with "bait," "go back to tumbleddit," etc. Obviously we're all individuals with our own tastes but if you don't think the hivemind exists then you obviously haven't been on /who/ long enough.
>>69321870
always felt that One Piece was very similar to Doctor Who. Group of friends travel from island to island, they arrive, learn more about this particular new world, help the local helpless people, defeat the local evil government and then leave again for another adventure. Replace island with alien planet and you have basically Doctor Who. Difference is, One Piece adventures are about 20 times longer than classic doctor who stories and it gets pretty repetitive.
His MO is so obvious.
>>69341015
There is no hivemind. The 'S9 is pigshit/S9 is GOAT' argument meme should make that clear enough. And a significant portion of tumblr dislikes River too, you're just butthurt that she's not very popular here. The only thing /who/ near unanimously agreed on is loving the Capaldick, but even then I've seen a few detractors.
"I broke all my own rules. I became the Hybrid" said the Doctor. He also stands in the ruins of Gallifrey at the end of time for his conversation with Me, as prophesied, and he risks all of space and time to heal his own loss by trying to alter a fixed point: Clara's death, as prophesied. And as Me rightly works out the Hybrid bit refers to a joining of two personalities, each driving the other on. Brought together by Missy as a means to further her ambitions to get her friend back by getting him to embrace the chaos she loves. I don't see how this arc can be viewed as unresolved, or how the Hybrid can still be a matter of speculation when all the answers are given right there in the final episode.
>>69341198
Forgot to mention you >>69338672
>>69341136
>you're just butthurt that she's not very popular here.
River is fucking terrible, I was giving a friendly warning to someone that has an opposing opinion.
Also check out the /who/ ranks Who polls. There is clearly a strong bias toward Moffat, Capaldi and earlier classic Who and a strong dislike for RTD and JNT.
>>69333202
>>69332614
>tfw these are actual audio covers
they're so horrible, wtf was big finish thinking?
MOFFAT MUST GO
HE IS SEXIST
HE IS HOMOPHOBE
HE IS TRANSPHOBE
HE HATES DOGS
HE'S A HORRIBLE PERSON, TRUST ME!!!!
OUT LORD AND SAVIOUR RTD WILL SAVE US
>>69341432
Fuck off cats you boring prick
>>69341454
He's right though
>>69341361
>>69341432
Giving himself away
>>69341518
Hi melanon
>>69341304
Your warning is a bit useless coming hours later.
/who/ rates some of his writing highly but also shits on Moffat plenty so it's hardly a bias. I liked a lot of the RTD era but I didn't rate that many single episodes highly, and JNT's was very uneven up until the last two seasons. Most would say earlier classic Who was better. These aren't really contrarian opinions.
>>69341634
The opinions don't need to be contrarian to tumblr, the fact is there is a strong consensus. That's a hivemind.
>>69341602
Fuck off you stupid cunt.
>>69341680
Butthurt at being BTFO again, obviously
>>69341555
>>69341454
>>69341716
>>69341680
>>69341602
I have the looming suspicion that you're samefagging. For what purpose, I don't know.
>>69341678
Individuals with the same opinion derived independently is not a 'hivemind'.
Meme culture is 100% a hive mind. Opinion copied and repeated robotically.
No individual opinion.
>>69341739
What does this response mean?
You appear.
Shitposting capital letters cunt immediately after.
You incriminated yourself, idiot.
>>69341015
>/who/ has a very particular set of likes and dislikes that pretty much counter tumblr. Saying anything contrary is met with "bait," "go back to tumbleddit," etc.
>>69341678
Anyway a popular opinion is not a hivemind. A hivemind is uncritical of the popular opinions which can't be said here.
>>69341750
Bad news for you. These are not from one person.
>>69341865
>a notional entity consisting of a large number of people who share their knowledge or opinions with one another, regarded as producing either uncritical conformity or collective intelligence.
Reminder 11's last word is literally "Hey".
>>69342812
Not as bad 5's.
>>69342929
Meant for >>69342663
>Oh Melana this is your honeymoon right? Well here's your last gift, a bit late. She's never been pinpoint accurate so don't blame him.
>What are you talking about?
>It's small. It's old. It's new. It's borrowed. It's blue.
The Doctor and Bill land aboard the Wasp, a luxury cruising spaceship, only for them to find out they're stuck in traffic jams in the Rilgar Canal, the most used canal in the whole wide universe. Only then, pirates from the Delonia Nebula take the whole canal hostage and demand the Atek Diadem worn by the Telurian Princess, Melana Farnize, hidden in the Wasp, where Bill and the Doctor are relaxing. Their only hope? A small blue police box no one ever notices through traffic...
>>69341518
Is there a result for the Twelve/Clara episodes?
Would be interesting, because a common complaint was that the show should be renamed 'the Clara Show' or similar.
>>69344097
No because it would prove Moffat isn't sexist.
>>69344097
She sucks all the attention in the room, but there's not enough other women.
That said, call Moffat sexist all you want, but judging by how RTD writes women, I'd call him misogynist in the most literal sense possible.
>>69341518
>(Excluding a couple of specials)
>Skipping
Opinion discarded
>>69344097
http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/how-often-does-doctor-who-pass-the-bechdel-test-71608.htm
>>69344283
I don't think Moff is sexist but why do you think RTD is?
>>69344437
>2015
>people writing about the Bechdel Test like it's something that matters
ffs
>>69344622
What's wrong?
>>69344437
Hmmm interesting - passed the test in 2014.
>>69344622
>everything I don't like is autism
>I can't express myself without buzzwords
reminder there is no actual 'Bechdel Test'
>>69344686
fuck off cats
>>69344700
Originally meant as "a little lesbian joke in an alternative feminist newspaper", according to Bechdel
>>69344625
RTD's females tend to have very abrasive personality. Moffat is very much lust for dominatrices type, but it's RTD's women who seem to be writted outright bitchy in systematic manner.
>>69344726
>everyone I don't like is cats
>>69344762
>>69344806
no just when it is when cats12 the shitposter, cats
>>69344776
RTD writes women as gay men.
Moffat writes women as dominators, like his ex-wife, his current wife and his mother-in-law dominate him.
>>69344776
>Moffat is very much lust for dominatrice
I never really understood that desu. I mean Missy and River I can see but I never felt Amy or Clara were dominatrixish imo.
>>69344844
>I have lost all ability to communicate with other humans coherently
>I have ascended to become a being of pure shitposting
>>69344872
What a homophobic thing to say.
>>69344886
we know you have, cats
>>69344900
nonsense
for fucks' sake, what has been wrong with /who/ over the past few weeks?
everyone is either me, cloister or melanon and we've abandoned the davros band meme in favour of "ruprecht" and "mongo"
i even saw FNA last thread
>>69344872
yup just like Sex and the City where the 4 women are actually written as 4 gay men but played by women
that's not homophobia it's a fact
>>69344974
i guess you are butthurt and upset that your shitposting and memes are getting BTFO by other shitposting and memes and you feel you have lost any imaginary power you had on 4chan
>>69344648
Does seem like political correctness going overboard. The show is called 'Doctor Who', not 'Companion(s) of Doctor Who and Doctor Who'.
And I speak as afemalefan of the show.
>>69344974
I don't know man, I can only assume it's underage summerfags trying to fit in with the community by creating boogeymen.
Reminder we're gonna have this sort of writing in every episode in 2 years
https://youtu.be/mn4BkuQTFlk
>>69345064
if anyone is butthurt, it's you
it's nice to know that my shitposting of martha's crooked teeth still pisses people off to this day, whereas these shitty new memes will be forgotten as quickly as they were thought up
>>69345192
Have you abandoned the "Bill's Crooked Teeth" variant, then, or just saving it for her debut?
![Planet-of-the-Daleks-3[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/F8G0eML.png "Planet-of-the-Daleks-3[1].png")
Just finished watching Planet of the Daleks.
More like Planet of the PHUCKING DULL.
There were some really nice ideas in this story but it could have done with being a 4-parter rather than a 6, the padding in it is painfully obvious.
Some nice Doctor/Jo moments throughout, though.
If I was alive to see Planet of the Daleks air back in the 70s, after seeing it I would have thought "maybe it's time for the show to stop using the Daleks, they're a bit shit and look cheap"
>>69345180
Wouldn't mind desu it's pretty funny.
>>69345192
cats is such an angry mong today. His shitposting is being shitposted into the stone age.
Good.
>>69345221the latter.
>>69345295
The ruprecht guy is still spamming the same image, in the hopes that someone will be annoyed or notice him in any way.
Sad.
>>69345224
except this was only their second use in the 70s after the very popular Day of the Daleks the year before.
>>69345343
You are obviously annoyed and responding to it you dickhead
>>69345295
>cats is such an angry mong today.
basically confirmation that mong anon and ruprecht anon are the same guy.
cats is just like anathema on gallifrey base
an egotistical lunatic who genuinely believes they are the reason these places exist and that without their apsergers crap these places would die out
any competition and they shit themselves with anger
>>69345370
Yeah I guess. I did enjoy Day, knowing full well that the Daleks were thrown in at the last minute. I thought they were handled very well considering that fact.
Okay, so Planet was a dud. I hope Death To The Daleks is better.
When's the next round of BGT, anyway? I wanna see them do "Purple Brain".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8AGppmstf0
>>69345180
Chinballs isn't that bad, has written some other good shows.But confess am not a fan of his Who episodes so far.
>>69345503
DttD is similar in tone but only 4 parts.
These are fun if you like comic book space operas.
>>69345476
Of course. He's an actual mong and thought we wouldn't notice.
>>69345482
Without the aspies in society, we wouldn't be sat here right now typing on an internet forum.
What the FUCK are they waiting for to announce the Series 9 OST?
>>69343547
You seemed like you were having trouble with your fake leak, so I rewrote this to sound a bit more like something the BBC would actually publish as promo material.
>"You wanted a wedding gift? Step inside. It's old, it's new, it's borrowed, it's blue. And it's your only hope."
>A luxury spaceship cruise hits the biggest traffic jam in the galaxy - turning the Doctor and Bill's relaxing break into a nightmare, as they are thrust into the clutches of vicious alien pirates. When the time travellers encounter a princess hiding from her captors, the TARDIS is plunged into a high-speed race against the clock.
