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No stakes the movie
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>>69217367
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>>69217367
Reminder that there are no actual DC/marvel people on /tv/ and it's just /v/ console war shitposting
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Let me summarize the movie

>Sign this, Steve!
>No.
>But you and your team will be criminals!!
>Muh freedoms, muh morals, muh bucky boipussy
>Muh insecurity, muh pepper, muh parents
*fight scene*
>Alright everybody see you next movie! Same place, same time? -- signed, Steve Rogers
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I'm done with this Mickey Mouse-tier soap opera drama. It doesn't help either that all the fight scenes are edited by a teenager with Tourette's and Parkinson's, it's as if they want to distract the audience from how shoddy everything looks by waving a flashlight on their face. I couldn't give a damn about any of these sterile excuses for characters. During the airport scene all the artificially-inflated conflict devolved into a child playing with one toy in each hand and bashing them together.

It's riddled with sophomoric and shallow pseudo-political ponderings that are thrown out the window when the quiptastic action starts. They completely disregard for the umpteenth time the collateral damage while they're having fun showcasing their flashy abilities.

The third act pretends to get serious when in reality it turns into a cheap heartstring manipulation revolving around "why didn't you tell me Cap waaa".

This part completely disregards the fact that Stark knows all too well that brainwashing and mental manipulation is a thing, let's not forget that he has witnessed it firsthand with Banner. There's no excuse for him to have such a sudden change of heart other than to extend the conflict for another 15 minutes of mindless violence, and leave the manchildren with the impression that they've just witnessed an intricate revenge tragedy.

All smoke and mirrors, the constant quipping is an effective tool to cloud a fanboy's mind and judgement.

Finally, what's left is an entire team of "world-class" heroes that got fooled by a man wearing a Bucky mask. Not to mention that the villain's stale trope was better executed 19 years ago when Scream 2 came out, ironically, a film satirizing this cliché.

If you don't think this is cartoonish and laughable you might be too young to post on this site.

Never again.
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>>69217536
pretty much. if you aren't obsessed with these characters and covet every interaction they have with each other, these movies suck.
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>>69217367
What were the stakes in Batman vs Superman again?
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>>69218048
The world
Martha
Bruce Wayne
The "meta humans"
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>>69218048
Horses
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>>69217367
If you're a eurocuck you definitely wouldn't understand Cap's position.
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The shit villain ruined the movie. Would have been ok otherwise.
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>>69218230
The movie literally would not happen without Baron Zemo and his wondrous ability to manipulate coincidence, likely gained from some magic stone Thanos will seek out in the next 10 movies this set up.

They could not think of something better.
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>>69217367
the theme of letting superpowered people be vs the fucking equivalen of a world government telling them what to do is a billion times more serious in this flick than all the contrived crap that we got in most capeshit specailly the batman films
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>>69218411
Thats not what BvS was about tho. In BvS, it was about killing god not putting superniggas in check
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>>69218048
Something you possibly couldn't understand.
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>>69218347
the papers still would of happened
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>>69217367
>Martha
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>>69218048

Martha
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>>69217536
tbf he was going to sign it.
>>69218347
Crossbones blowing up himself and the accords would still happen. Also, Tony's guilt.
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>Marveldrones so insecure that mentioning their movies in a somewhat negative way will make them scramble to post Evans and rt scores images

never change
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>>69219693
No need to change when we're right.
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>>69217367
Thats not true. Ironman's nigga sidekick got paralyzed
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one guy gets brutally paralyzed, half of them become international outlaws, one guy gets the joy of seeing his parents murdered, one guy loses his arm and has to be put in ice

I'd say it's a pretty good toll
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It's a Disney movie for the kids. No shit. It's just like Star Wars. Like 2 hours of nothing.
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>>69219693
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BvS:
We killed the main character as a quick gimmick The Movie
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>>69219410
Wait, so if the accords was going to happen anyway what was the point of zemo
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>>69218230
Zemo is literally better than the Joker.
Prove me wrong.
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>>69220881
God damn you're stupid. He wanted the Avengers broken.
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>>69221035
The accords was the most polarising subject for either sides, so why did we need zemo
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>>69221175
they weren't going to fight over the accords, what are you talking about?
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>>69221259
So they started a "war" over bucky? That's retarded
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>>69221175
No Zemo framing Barns was.
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>>69217367
I like how they differed the Sokovia Accords from the Superhuman Registration Act. The SRA has less points against it than the Accords, it was a little easier to see why Cap wouldn't sign.
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>>69221296
steve was an international fugitive who made someone assault an avenger, follow the plot or don't talk, jesus
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>>69217367
Are you kidding? I felt more stakes in this than any Marvel or DC movie. The stakes were about what transpired between Steve, Tony, and Bucky. Fucking greatness.
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>>69221296
At the time they thought bucky was the terrorist and that Cap and gang were helping him because they wuz budz n shet
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>>69217367
>Snyderlards always spout "nobody dies" about the marvel movies
>Nobody important dies in Snyder's shitshows
Are these people mildly retarded?
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>>69221365
How was Steve a fugitive? He went to a funeral...

>>69221402
But they know cap why would they jump to the conclusion that he's gone rogue. Sounds really contrived
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>>69221427
Yes.
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>>69221740
ironman's team was given 36 hours to find cap and friends or else! ironman found them at the airport and they didnt want to go back to secret government compound so they fought
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>>69221175
He took advantage of the accords and decided to harden more their relationship with the gov.
However, he knew Stark would try to do something to alleviate it, so he extended the conflict a little more by breaking his emotionally relationship with the group's leader.
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>>69217536
not exactly

they crippled the black guy
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Yeah at least BvS had stakes (it didn't I lied)
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[wut?]
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fucka anaass wohooo
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>>69217367
BvS: No script, the Movie
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>>69217367
On the one had, I agree with you. I know the actor playing Bucky has signed up for like 18 movies. I know he's not dying.
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What went...right bros?
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>>69217367
Isn't Tony emotionally fucked up now?
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>>69224237
She got to have a private childhood. Her sisters didn't.
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Why did the Hydra keywords make Bucky go Winter Soldier mode?
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>>69222781

>fake trailer-implied death
>expect me to believe he won't walk when Vision exists

I agree with OP
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>>69224237
so weird to think they all came from the same balls
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>>69224429
He was brainwashed to go full ballistic if he heard them.
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>>69224585
Why those specific words though?
I know the last one was because of his "death"
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>>69217707
Agreed
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>>69218048
The audience's intelligence
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>>69224717

If you read up on MK ultra and mind control conspiracies it makes sense.
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>>69224717

I think mostly they were a random sequence. Never thought about the last one having to do with his death. Interesting. It is kind of out of place among all the other words.
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If you are a normal human being it's an enjoyable movie, you don't have to think about it afterward, just enjoy it while you watch it.

If you are an autistic robot and have to dissect every thing that happens in it than you shouldn't be watching these movies to begin with.
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>>69225369
I watched the godfather for the first time yesterday (I know) and then went and saw civil war, I agree. There really are movies where it's worth analyzing all the details and some where it's worth turning your brain off to an extent. It also helped that my first superhero movie was the original spider man that I saw when I was 5, I remember walking by that poster in the theater for a year being hyped out of my mind. It was nice to see him back in action in a way that didn't make me want to throw my overpriced slushie at the screen. Solid super hero movie, 8.5/10 on the capeshit scale
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>>69217911
Yeah, man, Star Wars shoulda been a one-shot. Being invested in a character is bullshit, take us back to pre-LOTR when Hollywood knew better what to do with the source material and every ip was treated like shit by cocaine addled corporate types.
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>>69220175
Oh, no. Only death and rape are CURRENT YEAR. When these cucks talk stakes, it's code for death and rape. That's why this tiny minority of fedoras love (and by that, I mean "defend') BvS. Superman died and the audience was raped. It's a two-fer.
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>>69225671
Welcome to a much larger world. Obi Wan.jpeg.
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>>69226050
Well I'm halfway through the sopranos (I'm 20 gimme a break), I figured it was about damn time I watched it. my dad's seen the sopranos at least 6 times all the way through and his favorite movie is godfather part 2. If someone asked my favorite movie I'd probably say In Bruges.I love 60s/70s/80s movies and older stuff too like 12 angry men, it's not like I'm in the dark about this shit but watching the godfather felt like losing my film virginity. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you should appreciate a movie based on what it sets out to be. Example: fury road or robocop, they're not the deepest movies but they set out and accomplished what they wanted pretty much perfectly.
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>>69222501
The accords were a secret before that though, they were going to announce it when zemo blew up the embassy.

How did zemo know that the avengers were divided, and how did he know that blowing up the embassy would further cause a strife between the two factions also how did he create a lifelike mask of bucky and why did he call in the dead doctor
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>>69226297
All a man needs in this world is the Bible, Godfather 1 and 2, and maybe Jeremiah Johnson.
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>>69226889
Take the cannoli leave the bible
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listen to this faggot if you want a good laugh at a DC turd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pehjhy0MEIQ
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>>69224290

He's been emotionally fucked up in every single movie. I'm surprised he isn't suicidal at this point
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