Is this the worst villain in the MCU? What was even the point of this dude?
>>69209528
He was the best villan
>>69209528
>he didn't like Zemo
go watch your 10 minute chump Doomsday
I liked Ozymandias.
>>69209598
he wasn't a villain though
He succeeded where Loki failed in breaking apart the avengers. Zeno also did it without being some weird alien/God and without using and infinity stone.
He's pretty based.
>>69209612
Yes he was. He set off a bomb at the UN that killed a black guy.
Nah he was based.
>Motivation is understandable and very human, not just lol I'm evil because I say so
>Creates problems that The Avengers can't punch their way out of
>Actually achieves his goals by the end of the movie
He's one of the few MCU villains who will be looked back on as memorable.
>both Tony and Zemo were fighting for muh family
Him killingthe super soldiers with headshotswas cool.
>>69209528
>worst villain in the MCU?
Not even close.
>>69209528
The whole point of Civil War was that you can't take down the Avengers through force, but that you have to pit them against each other and let them do the job themselves. This guy having no powers himself was a good embodiment of that fact.
>>69209647
>killing niggers
>crime
I literally couldn't believe how irrelevant and easily "done with" this guy was.
>>69209788
I want an action figure of this guy.
>>69209788
It's a shame too because Crossbones had a badass design. Would've been nice to see what he's been up to since TWS and to see more of him in action of course.
>don't even check for photo IDs, they let Zemo stroll in while he's posing as another psychiatrist
>their high tech maximum security prison doesn't even have independent backup power or other redundancies
GERMANY YES
I didn't really get the feeling that he was a villain. He was just a broken man who served as a a catalyst for the plot. Perhaps he will come back later as a true villain but that wasn't really his place in this story.
>>69209528
Seriously? He's the only antagonist in the MCU who has actually succeeded.
>>69209578
This. Maybe he's not charistatic like Loki, but his plan was really great.
>>69209744
Yeah.
>>69209890
I feels like this is right. He's basically the flip side of the black lady by the elevator. All they want them to do is to notice them, to know what they took from them.
He does it by reminding Tony of his own pain.
>>69209937
Relied a bit too much on luck though.
However, even without cap, bucky and tony arriving at the secret base at the end, Zemo could still show the footage ofBucky killing Tony's parentselsewhere where Tony can see it.
>>69209744
>Wants to destroy the universe for very poorly-explained reasons
>Almost no dialogue
>Gets his ass kicked by Thor's elderly unarmored mom
I liked Thor 2, but this guy was awful.
>>69209788
He kickstarted the plot and had a cool action scene, a much better fate than 99% of MCU villians.
>>69209528
are you kidding?
1. Zemo
2. Loki
3. Winter Soldier
4. Ultron
5. Red Skull
6. Iron Monger
7. Yellowjacket
8. Abomination
9. Ronan
10. Whiplash
11. Malekith
POWER GAP
AND ANOTHER
12. """"""Mandarin"""""""
>>69210156
Thanks for triggering me with memories of how much of a letdown Mandarin was
>>69210156
>Ultron that high
>>69209528
>he thinks Zemo is a "villain"
>>69210107
>much better fate than 99% of MCU villains
this is true. what a fucking way to go.
>>69210194
>>69210156
>Not just going with the movie, that Guy Pierce was effectively "The Mandarin"
>>69210213
enough memes. Ultron was great in an otherwise MEH movie.
>>69210156
1.Zemo
2. Winter Soldier
3. Loki
The rest suck and can go to hell tbqh
>>69210252
Nah, his quirky dialogue was an example of trying too hard.
>>69210194
Everything about Iron Man 3 was just a massive let down. Letting fucking Paltrow get superpowers was just a massive fuck you to the audience.
>Zemo's next appearance will probably feature him wearing a full body pink sweater
>>69210156
>People still butthurt about the mandarin
Comics Mandarin was basically Fu Manchu and was never going to work in live-action, senpai. And the le dark and edgy one from the trailers was out-of-sync with the breezy action-comedy tone of the series. Turning him into a joke was the best solution.
>>69210303
It was better than IM2.
>>69210156
>No Mention of Kingpin or Kilgrave
>>69210335
dude fart jokes xD
>>69209937
>his plan was really great
>his plan never happens if that girl doesn't tell Captain America where Bucky was hiding
His plan relied way too much on things he had no control over
>>69210362
if you're gonna put those then might as well put the all the Fox and Sony Marvel-licensed movie villains.
>>69210355
I disagree only for the fact that Iron Man 2 had the best version of Black Widow.
Why they got rid of this hair style I WILL NEVER KNOW.
>>69210383
I thought him getting the Bucky footage at the base was enough for his plan to work, did that need Cap to find Bucky's hideout?
>>69209937
his plan? the "plan" that involved moving parts he had no control over acting accordingly? i fucking hate shit like this. "OH U THOUGHT YOU GOT ME BUT I REALLY WANTED AL LTHIS TO HAPPEN THE WHOLE TIME XD"
>>69209983
WHAT...ARE YOU DOING!?
>>69210502
The avengers never fight each other if the German military murders Bucky, which would have happened if Captain America and his nigga sidekick weren't there.
Bad guy could have still used the footage but then it would've just been an ironman vs Cap fight instead of all the avengers
He was the best part of the film. The Avengers, turned into pieces because of a guy who lost his life.
Imagine if that was Lex's motivation in BvS. Wow. that film just became 10 billion times better.
>>69210335
Besides, all three Iron Man movies villains are people who hold grudges against Stark. Kingsley's Mandarin character just appears out of nowhere in Stark's life so he doesn't really fit into the trilogy. It would've been better if they established him as the mastermind from the first movie, of course if they can do that without making him like Spectre's Blofeld..
>>69210413
No, because Daredevil and Jessica Jones are a part of the MCU.
>>69210585
>OH U THOUGHT YOU GOT ME
That never happens though, the thing that drives Tony berserk is 100% on Zemo's end.
>>69209788
>I look pretty good all things consider don't I?
>>69210442
Winter Solider Black Widow has the best hair. Makes me want to wrap those silky straight locks around my cock and rub one out on her face.
![ward_religion[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PjHXrsY.png "ward_religion[1].png")
>>69210156
Zemo isn't even worthy to hold Grant Ward's dick
>>69210677
Close second, let's just agree that Avengers is shit, thanks Whedon.
>Zemo and Thanos join forces
>Thanos brings Ultron back to life with the mind gem and create his army of henchmens
OH
boy
>>69209528
He's got the best and clearest motivation, but he's no Loki.
Sadly, he's got a "Skyfall" plan that involves too many things happening that he'd have had absolutely no way of knowing, unless it's later revealed that he had a lot more resources at his disposal than he's ever shown having in the film.
>>69209528
>What was even the point of this dude?
To drive a wedge between the Avengers, who were too big to fall in spite of how much damage they were responsible for. I hate that /tv/ isn't smart enough for kids movies, these were specifically in the dialogue.
>>69210743
Agreed sir. Agreed.
>>69210605
Cap is angry at the kill order already. It would be worse if they succeeded.
But besides that you still have the accords and Vision keeping Wanda prisoner to rile them up.
>>69209788
If it weren't for Wanda he would have killed Cap.
>>69210754
>Thanos trips and loses the cosmic cube
>>69210442
Man she got WRECKED in Civil War:
>Crossbones fucks her up
>literally can't hurt Bucky when he's in rage 'destroy all' mode
>btfo by Scarlett Witch
>Clint sort of gets a rematch from Avengers 1 and does a lot better fighting her
>Antman fucks her up
Kek. I loved it.
>>69210754
>Expecting the Avengers vs Thanos.
>It's the Avenger vs all MCU Villians.
>>69209528
what the fuck I know this guy in real life
>>69210605
>Implying the german military would've stand a chance against Bucky
Bucky is a super soldier just like Cap. If cap didn't show up, it would only make things worse as his escape would be seen as a guilty proof.
>>69210760
>plan that involves too many things happening that he'd have had absolutely no way of knowing
He pretty much just needed the Bucky footage, and there's no luck involved in that. Zemo impersonating Bucky is also enough to cause rustle between the Avengers even if Tony does find out later that that wasn't Bucky.
In fact if Zemo had distributed the Bucky footage in a public place rather than just the secret base where Tony and Cap were, it would have done more damage.
>>69210957
>It's the Avenger vs all MCU Villians.
The Tesseract is obviously going to bring Red Skull back.
>>69210929
but then she goes ''ugh tony can't you let you of your ego for one second?'' and of course it's a moral victory, which matters more.
>>69210929
Not wrecked in the way I wanted though.
How did he break in the Raft?
>>69210867
The avengers are fighting at the airport because it appears that Cap is trying to keep the guy who blew up Nigeria king alive. That doesn't happen if Bucky just get murdered by Germans
>>69210987
What he couldn't know was that Rogers already knew and hadn't told Tony. He couldn't know that the precise three people he needed to chase him would, in fact, be the ones to chase him. His EMP bomb was pretty dumb, too.
>>69210957
And it's all because Thanos wants Lady Death pussy.
>>69209528
I think he was there because they wanted there to ultimately be a villain behind the conflict. I think it was a bad decision too, they should have just let it be what it was.
Movie was still pretty good overall. This guy wasn't the worst part, spider-man was. What a stupid little shit.
>>69211054
He also couldn't know who would and would not support the accords, both at the national down to the personal level.
>>69211018
>>69211020
Do you think shes frustrated Tony doesn't wanna bang her
Zemo breaking out and forming the Masters of Evil when?
>>69211056
>Skeleton
>Tits
U wot m8?
>>69211054
>What he couldn't know was that Rogers already knew and hadn't told Tony.
That's not really needed since even then Rogers would defend Bucky and Tony would want to kill him, however it does add to the wound.
>he needed to chase him
He didn't need them to chase him at all, read the post again.
>>69211104
If he does they definitely won't be called that
>>69210004
I assumed that was his plan A/B/something anyway
hell he didnt even have to do the whole infiltration part if he had just gotten those coordinates from the Hydra guy
>>69211111
Yes, that's what Death looks like in the Marvel Universe. At least until the Beyonder comes and kills her and replaces her with his buddy (Bob?).
>>69210929
Clint just goes easy on her kek
>>69211150
Yeah, "Masters of Evil" sounds too cartoony. Just "The Masters" or the Thunderbolts would work better.
>>69211111
There's gotta be some reason thanos has such a boner for her
>>69209528
I think he needs a better motivation that MUH FAMILY, he's gonna be a very forgettable villain.
>>69211098
Yeah I thought tony stark was the "fuck the government" guy and Cap would've supported it but Tony got spooked by a black lady chillin by an elevator and Cap became inspired by his waifu's eulogy about being a tree or some shit
>>69210957
>>69210998
Well, I do believe that we will not be just Thanos, but infinity war will feature an avengers-esque team of super villians.
At least give Ultron a second chance, this time by the hands of based russos instead of quip-n-quips whedon.
>>69211158
Is he in the MCU yet? I don't keep up.
>>69209657
>Actually achieves his goals by the end of the movie
Did you not see the part where Tony sends Steve a love letter saying he is still there for him?
Zemo failed.
>>69211192
It is his family that drives him to do it, but at the same time the movie deals with the damage caused by superheroes who are supposed to protect civilians.
>>69211102
Quite possibly. I think the storyline needs to be explored in great depth until super slut has banged everyone in the MCU.
>>69211195
The tree line is actually a quote taken almost verbatim from Cap himself in the civil war comic. It's sort of well known, got posted on /co/ a lot when I used to post there. I really liked that they included it.
It makes a lot more sense that Cap doesn't go with this if you're more familiar with his comic self. When Civil War happened it wasn't the first time he became disillusioned and basically said fuck it, there was even a period in the 90s where he dropped the Captain America title altogether and was called Nomad for a while. He's entirely about the ideals and principles, and will fight the institutions just as readily as any other enemy if he feels they abandon those.
>>69211119
True enough. He didn't need them to chase him, but he still had no way of knowing that his big revelation would cause Tony to have his meltdown.
Cap had ample time to make Tony aware of Bucky's involvement in the Starks' deaths between the events of TWS, AOU, and whatever additional downtime that's implied to have occurred before CW. It's out of character for Steve to have not come clean with that information at some point.
>>69211259
Dude, the Avengers have been reduced to 2 (one of which will most certainly die because Thanos WILL get that infinity gem) and the rest are now wanted fugitives. Also it's Steve who sends it. Tony can't exactly be seen working with his ex work partners, too.
>>69211259
Did you miss the part that even with Cap's love letter, the best case scenario is still to freeze and hide Bucky in the middle of Africa because Iron Man or anybody might still go full on rampage on his ass?
Cap just saved his friend from being killed but he still lost his friend because no one is willing to forgive Bucky brainwashed or nah.
The ending and the implications of this movie are not so simple.
Zemo succeeded. tHE Avengers are on thin ice now.
>>69211310
I don't read the comics tho
>>69211357
Yes, I realize that. I agree it's a lot more confusing for those who haven't.
>>69211153
There was some bad editing in that Hydra scene. Did you notice the one shot where his nose was clearly well above the lip of the sink?
>>69211281
But they saved people in danger. It's nonsense made a movie about a dead family/kid and forget that they evacuate civilians in Sokovia, fuck, even Quicksilver die for that reason.
>>69211356
If Zemo succeeded then they wouldn't be able to make any more avengers movies
>>69211356
Bucky chose to be frozen because he doesn't trust himself. It wasn't to keep him safe from others, it was to keep everyone safe from him.
The ending and implications are simple. Despite their fight Steve is still there for Tony and the only thing Zemo did was create 2 avengers teams who will still support eachother.
>>69211472
Splitting a work force doesn't kill it. What will happen is that they'll realize that Thanos is too big of a threat and will need to work together again.
>>69211498
see>>69211334
>>69211192
"The most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose". Who knows what he would've done if his plan ruined in the process.
>>69209619
yep. they are still hate eachother in the end, r-right?
>>69211530
So you are telling me that Zemo failed
>>69211530
This. And probably the law will be undone after they save the universe from Thanos so that everyone can be happy again.
>>69211470
>But they saved people in danger
What matters is that the people who they didn't save's familiars are angry about it and so is the gubmint, hence the whole super registration act. This mostly affects Tony.
Have had the "did Zemo win" argument in a few threads now.
I'm still on the opinion of "he didn't lose but he didn't win either"
He literally wanted them to kill each other, and that didn't happen
But he did succeed at making them fight and despise one another, at least for the time being.
>>69209667
and panther
>>69211587
No, Avengers being reduced to 2 and the rest now being wanted fugitives is a big deal. Even if they work together to fight Thanos, the rest of the world won't like Bucky and the others still being alive and/or not in jail.
>>69211655
Obviously their reputation is gonna be bad since they were fighting each other but once the heroes start saving the world again everybody will like them
>>69209528
I refuse to accept the suggestion that this guy was supposed to be Barron Zemo.
>>69211599
>3 iron man movies
>2 avengers movies
>Tony hasn't realized that he can't save everyone.
Is he retarded?
>>69211498
The creators have said that the damage is done between the two sides that they are no longer a united front and when IW happens they won't see their "pearl harbor" coming. Zemo left them in an incredibly vulnerable state and it will have consequences.
>>69211701
If the team that's supposed to save the world can't even be seen together at all without the world's forces wanting their heads, it's a pretty big deal. They're gonna have to be stealthy probably until the very last moment, though in the comics the last conflict happens outside of Earth so it depends what the movies will do with the source material.
They also need to introduce Warlock somewhere, he's extremely important.
>>69210156
Ultron needs to be lower.
>>69211746
Scarlet Witch doesn't have her comic costume either, does that mean she isn't Scarlet Witch? Luke Cage won't have a tiara either so I guess he's not Luke Cage.
You can't have everyone in their 70s costumes in y2k
>>69211611
>He literally wanted them to kill each other,
Actually it's just splitting them, hence why he goes ''did it?'' when the psychologist claims his plan failed. Hell he doesn't bother staying to see if someone dies in the fight, he stays outside and is about to shoot himself.
>>69211470
People are dumb and will always complain and think that superheroes should save everyone.
Just loot at real people around you - whining about little stuff, whining about the police, about everything happening. They don't care about Avengers trying to save people - as long as Avengers don't save everyone someone will be mad.
>>69211775
You have figured out that Tony has psychological problems. Good job
Zemo was based and he's obviously going to be back to do more damage.
>>69211746
Zemo in the comics is such a clown.
>>69211111
Quints checked
>>69211813
But nobody can stop the avengers except other avengers. They have no reason to care what any government thinks about them
>>69209820
Hot toys made a pretty dank figure of this guy. If you're a poorfag you might want to save money for it.
>>69210754
>>69209528
>worst villain in the MCU
am I the only one who thinks Thanos is as lame shit villain as the rest of GotG?
>>69211775
Tony wants to kill Bucky despite fully knowing that he was brainwashed when he killed his parents. Turns out that humans can be driven by emotions, who could have thought?
>>69211867
I'm pretty sure he says he wanted to see them die like his family did at some point during the last big scene, but I could be wrong. Something about wanting to kill him, but he couldn't do it, so instead he worked out a plan to get them to kill each other.
He might have just said 'fight each other' instead of kill in both of those instances though, so I'm prob wrong.
>>69211977
No, I'm pretty sure you're right.
>>69211916
>But nobody can stop the avengers except other avengers.
They seemed pretty stopped in that prison until Cap breaks in at the very end. They also can't exactly fight the world's forces without being branded as villains.
>>69209528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYZpZr3Cv7I
this song needs to be in every avengers related thread
>>69211948
he's pretty cool.
>>69210413
Are you fucking autistic?
>>69211977
Regardless, his plan was splitting them, after all, the only one whom he actually makes murderous is Tony (and only towards 1, non-avenger person) rather than the rest of the gang, and the scene with said psychologist drives the point of his plan succeeding pretty clearly don't you think?
>>69212029
Didn't it take other avengers to get them in to custody tho?
>>69211977
I think he did say something to that effect.
But I believe he also takes them splitting up and hating each other as enough of a victory, them killing each other is a nice bonus, basically.
He seems pretty satisfied with the results.
although damn dude, a chunk of that plan required a decent amount of luck
Is comic Zemo related to HYDRA? I thought he was a minion of red skull.
>>69212132
sign this act or we will make you
if they can "force" THE AVENGERS why dosnt the govenments use that "force" instead of the avengers, then errr there wouldnt bee the avengers to need to force them into not fucking killing people by accident
Is it worth watching alone?
Thinking about going to watch it today but got nobody to go with.
>>69212219
Yeah I'd wager it's enjoyable enough alone, make sure you laugh with the rest of the theater!
>>69212132
They don't have their gear which is how they couldn't escape in the first place. And even if they do get it back (they will), as said, they can't fight the people who will hunt them down because they're the good guys. They will have to go into hiding. Avengers 3 is divided into 2 movies for probably a good reason so they have 6 hours of run time to explain shit.
>>69209528
I liked his character in Colonia.
>Hans!!!!!
>>69212219
Depends on the no-singles policy at your theater. They wouldn't let me in alone so I payed a homeless guy to go watch it with me.
>>69212285
What the hell kind of theater refuses your money because you don't have another person with you?
>>69211235
None of those characters are in the MCU yet, but if Bob refers to Bob, Agent of HYDRA, then he appeared in Deadpool (obliquely, since they can't name HYDRA).
>>69212183
Not necessarily, impersonating Bucky and getting his murderous footage was enough. Hell he didn't even need to hypnotize Bucky later on other than just add fuel to the fire. All that ended up doing was bring the 3 to the secret commie base, and as mentioned in this thread, Zemo could have shown the footage elsewhere after adquiring it.
>the Avengers are reunited in Infinity War
>Zemo loses it, dresses as Citizen V and start recruiting mooks to beat them in their own game
>>69212315
Because single white males going to a superhero movie alone usually wind up shooting up the place.
>>69211788
Who cares what the creators said. The film didn't show that.
>Film ends
>Tony gets note saying "got ur back bro"
>Slight smile on his face
>HURRR THEY ARE SPLIT UP AND NO LONGER UNITED!!!!
Sure it might take longer for them to meet up when something happens, but they are clearly still there for eachother.
>>69212338
He can only be played by David Hasslehoff.
>>69210156
>>69210194
>>69210303
THIS IS YOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4yKFMrxDgg
>>69212379
If that's actually the reason I'm floored
I've never heard of a theater doing that, that's completely retarded
>>69212315
None. It's a meme
>>69212183
I think the most "luck" thing in the plan was the EMP thing going off at the right time.
>>69211314
But how would Zemo know that Cap told Tony...did he listen to every conversation they had? And all Cap knew what that Hydra was involved.
>>69212384
read the thread.
Which girl was the cutest? I liked the witch lady also the blonde :3
>>69212505
The Waitress from Avengers or the Slav qt from Ultron who Cap saves.
Cap gets the best throwaway sluts.
It's a fictional cartoon comic book character, who was written by a team of 100+, freshly graduated, college liberals, who themselves are getting paid less than minimum wage to write a movie about grown men in tights.
Re-evaluate your line of thinking.
>>69212505
Aunt May
Was Zemo just smart enough to put 2 and 2 together from the files BW released and the knowledge of the WS project to know that the people he killed on the September 16th hit were Tonys parents?
Or was he just really hopeful it was damaging as hell?
Also, where in the fuck did the camera come from, why was it in that particular spot on the road by the tree, why was it facing the exact right direction, and why didn't Bucky shoot that first if he was aware there was a camera there..
Was there some explanation for the camera I missed?
>>69212536
says the guy spending his time on a sri-lankean cave painting imageboard.
HOL UP
>>69209578
First post best post
>>69212488
That's my point. He didn't and couldn't know. That file Sharon dropped off for Cap about Bucky contained the information.
Now think about this. Cap, who's been sitting on that information, lying by omission if nothing else, chooses the precise wrong moment to be totally honest with Tony - there at the point where it would have finally made sense to bend the truth.
It's plot-induced stupidity,
>>69212560
that was the problem I had, but tony talks like "I Know that road" It could be on or near Starks property so he has cameras, but if that was the case you think he would have some type of security.
That camera still urks me badly Senpai.
>>69212603
WE DEM BOYZ
>>69212603
>literally WE WAZ KANGS the character
He was there so they could have a real villain.
Can't make a capeshit movie just with two groups of people having a difference of opinion and have a civil war around that.
There has to be a clear evil guy and a clear good guy.
>>69212637
The whole movie Tony has a hard on anyway for Bucky, you think telling him earlier would have made him not want Bucky?
>>69212560
The audience knew that Hydra was responsible for Tony's parents' death as of Winter Soldier, doesn't take much brain to realize who the fellas who made and carried the invaluable supersoldier serum in the video were. Zemo was also part of the military so he had some knowledge of it.
As for why the cameras were there, I suppose the reason is because the evil commies wanted footage of the mission being accomplished and thus appointed a location for the attack based on the path the car was going. Also it's not surprising that ruskies like recording everything, as you may know from all the dashcams they carry nowadays.
>>69212603
How was he not great?
If it weren't for spider-man he would've stolen the show.
>>69212730
if it was their camera why did bucky shoot it when done...
>>69212707
The ''civil war'' didn't lead to a mortal conflict, they were joking around even during the battle in the middle of the movie. They needed someone not only to mastermind the events but also to have something that would make one of them want to kill an ally, in this case Bucky's video.
>>69212753
his costume is gay BDSM shit
HOW THE FUCK DID HE KNEW THAT CAP AND IRON MAN WERE COMING TOGETHER AND WATCH THE VIDEO AT THE SAME TIME? THEY WERE BOTH FIGHTING AND THAT WAS HIGHLY UNLIKELY BUT LOW IQ MARVELSHILLS DIDN'T THOUGH ABOUT THAT.
>>69212809
you are gay BDSM shit.
>>69212753
he was fine it's just fun to poke at things if they fit our memes.
>>69210677
Winter Soldier Widow's hair is absolutely disgusting. Like it actually manages to make Scarjo unattractive.
What terrible taste you have.
>>69211746
He's not supposed to be that Zemo. He's a version of Helmut, his son, who was motivated against the Avengers by his father's death.
>>69209578
This. He won in the end.
Thunderbolts when senpai?
>>69212603
Best part of the movie
>>69209578
He was a german cuck.
How could he be the best?
>>69212753
You mean Giant Man
>>69211948
As much as I like Gunn, he couldn't write Thanos for shit.
Any gifs/webms of Falcon/Bucky nodding in the car?
>>69212936
Spider-Man was better.
Especially considering they had to establish him in the movie and he was by far the best version of spider-man ever in a movie.
Fucking Russos man.
>>69212723
I know that wanting him earlier would have effectively defused Zemo's last gambit and would have been infinitely more in keeping with Steve's character. The only reason they chose not to go that route was a pretty transparent example of the plot driving the character.
Does anybody have any orange slices?
>>69212468
But he had a comformation that EMP was in place, so it wasn't just luck. He was the one who activated it, after all, it didn't blow up on itself.
>>69212908
The best part of the movie was the Spider-Man parts. Black Panther gets an honorable because he was the only character with a coherent arc.
>>69212978
Yeah but Giant Man > Black Panther
>>69209528
he was one of the best so far, he has an actual point and doesn't overstay his welcome
his plan was goofy but his theming was great.
>>69209528
He is a good villain, but undoubtedly a terrible actor. How does he still get roles in hollywood?
>>69212753
>spidey stole the show
Not really, my vote goes to Antmann
>attempted suicide
pretty dark for a marvel flick honestly. was not expecting that
>>69213291
I don't remember that
>>69209528
>worst
He actually succeeded in causing a rift between the avengers. It wasn't even resolved in the end, and possibly won't be until infinity wars.
>>69209528
he was the embodiment of the world's unhappiness with the avengers. everyone else was sick of them and the death and destruction that follow in their wake. everyone else was just too pussy to do anything but try to make them answer to the UN
>>69213307
Zemo tries to shoot himself at the end, and Panther...er..."saves" him
>>69209619
He broke them apart so bad they're going to get back together in the next movie.
>>69213307
At the end he puts a gun under his chin. Someone (Black Panther maybe?) takes the gun off of him.
>>69209723
I didn't see that coming, so it was pretty cool
>>69213396
Oh yeah
>>69213356
>It wasn't even resolved in the end
>Hey Tony I know we fought and me and the guys are in hiding for a bit but we still got ur back bro. Yours sincerely, Steve Rogers
>>69209528
But.....he won. The Avengers are split, half of them are in prison/on the run and Tony is a broken man.
>>69209788
>died like a bitch the same way Strucker did
How did Bucky lose his arm? It looked like he was trying to rip out starks core thing in his suit
This movie was uninteresting with unlikable characters and no sense of danger. Captain America is an invincible nationalist flag waiver. Iron Man is a completely unrelateble selfish arrogant rich guy with an invincible suit.
There's never any real conflict or danger, we know that nobody can die because they have plot armor which is usually the norm in shitty CW superhero shows Seriously, this shit is for children.
>>69213441
Tony shot it with his >repulser canon?
>>69213441
I think Iron Man shot a blast from his core? I don't know, it was sudden.
>>69209528
>the dude who single handedly turned the Avengers against each other and won in the end
How is he the worst? He's the best.
>>69212361
This is my hope too
>>69213441
I think he was trying to do that, and then Tony fucked him up by shooting his chest beam cannon thing at point blank. The one that fucked up that dude in Iron Man 3 on the plane
>>69213587
He uses that thing like once per movie, it's basically his finishing move.
>>69213465
The airport scene really sums it all. It's embarrassing to watch.
>>69211472
But thats wrong you fucking retard. They are heroes, the point is to overcome conflict to stop evil. Besides if you read the Infinity Gauntlet its not even the Avengers who stop Thanos.
>>69211826
She looks like Scarlet Witch in this movie, anyone can tell thats who she's supposed to be.
>>69213871
That time sticks out to me because it blew a hole in the guys chest.Why is Tony such a dick
>>69209528
>Is this the worst villain in the MCU?
by the worst you mean the best?
he's the only villain that actually managed to do tear Avengers apart.
>>69214022
Does it matter? They're all killers anyway. Captain Merrika throwing people off a plane isn't better.
>>69210005
>I liked Thor 2
How?
>>69209528
>Only MCU Villain to win
>worst
>>69209788
Frank Grillo was my first choice to play the Punisher. He's actually Italian and not Jewish.
>>69210234
>a theatrical terrorist as the villain
>oh no, it's just another businessman like in iron man 1 except he hates stark because he didn't hang out with him on the roof like 30 years prior
pathetic
>>69211746
>sends Kraven the Hunter to trap a little girl with a tea party
dodged a bullet there hoss
>>69214076
Why are cap and tony such dicks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCFk9Rg4J6Q
>implying he wasn't a great villain
>>69211746
it was Helmut not Heinrich
>>69210252
You mean despite the fact that Ultron isn't supposed to be a quippy jokester, and that his movie design looks like utter shit?
>>69213871
No his finishing move is the two red lasers he has that can cut through anything but he only uses them on stupid shit cuz it would be too OP
>>69214830
Movie Ultron basically was a decepticon from the Michael Bay transformers movies. His head shape even reminded me of movie Megatron.
>>69212831
He called the hotel room service so they would find the body and Tony would learn the truth you nimrod
>>69211909
Shut up red skull
>>69212908
This
>>69209578
Agreed senpai
>main character's parents were murdered
>for some reason there was a video tape of it that the villain can conveniently pull out
Why do writers keep doing this shit? This movie feels like it was written by a teenager. It doesn't hold up to even the slightest bit of critical thinking.
>>69216148
>can conveniently pull out
He spend the entire movie looking for it.
>>69216148
And that line from Tony
>I recognize that road
Oh so, there is cameras on this road but the police never investigated who owned the cameras that was filming literally in focus on the murders
I really liked him being the instigator of all the events. It made it more interesting then some super villain with a mask.
I think it would have been cool if he was somehow related to the Red Skull to justify his motives.
>>69216415
What if he was the Red Skull?
>>69216415
tbhfam I would have rather just had Red Skull back.
>>69216473
How can red skull be real if our eyes aren't real?
>>69211581
Doesn't matter, Zemo won.
>>69217085
>I want to watch an empire fall
>empire doesn't fall
>>69212260
My theater didn't laugh really at all
>>69212979
You have a good point, I would guess he only didn't do it because he wanted to protect Bucky, and let everything calm down.
>>69217713
They probably fell asleep
>worst villain
he had development, a compelling reason to do what he did, fell ultimately into a darker shade of moral gray, and had a good plan.
In contrast tell me about the dark elf from Thor 2.
>>69209744
This.
>>69209788
i was hoping he'd survive and be put into the Punisher tv show
